/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

heres a thing I'm making

>>3298725
Thanks, I've been studying, Loomis, Hampton and Vilppu for the past couple off months, so it's not like I haven't been studying anything. Maybe it's because I did all those girls without using a reference aside from a couple of things in there.

I was just trying to see how good I could be to at least get anatomy down. Proportions are a bitch to me sometimes. For some reason, it's still odd to me that they were all leaning like that though, maybe it's my positioning while drawing on a tablet, maybe I should stop using my wrist so often.

>>3298912
"Measure twice cut once"

It's ok, keep grinding and keep reading. But don't forget to go over your drawings with the books handy, and correcting as much as you can.

The relative sizes of the different body parts are easy to correct. The most basic step for beginners is the 7½ heads model.

Read > draw > correct > repeat

Slowly but surely you'll start internalizing knowledge, and you begin to execute with instinct.

Keep grinding anon, and good luck!

Trying to actually paint rather than just filling in lineart for once

Which hair is better?

>>3299093
There's some interesting things happening with the color here but the overall lack of structure is really weakening this. I would suggest looking at a few animals you think this would most resemble and doing some studies of their heads in particular and how to construct a snout. I can't tell if you want it to be long like a dog snout or short like a cat or maybe squashed like it sort of already is, more along the lines of a gorilla or something, but no matter which one there's a way to do it that will make this beast look more believable and thereby more intimidating.

>>3299285
This is pretty neat. I'd only advise you watch the proportions a little. It looks odd to see such meaty legs and strong compact body carrying such a small weapon. I see there's some kind of cockpit which creates a human size scale. Since the cockpit takes up such a large portion of the structure it makes everything look relatively small. For instance if you picture an average sized human in the cockpit, those arms holding the gun seem to be about normal human size. I'd recommend playing around with the scale of some of the individual pieces like the legs and shell around the cockpit to push the scale and silhouette some more.

>>3299431
Bangs are always a bad idea, so neither.

>>3299455
Objectively the worst taste. Bangs are god-tier.

>>3299431

>>3299456
Lol no, hair that is swept to one side or another always looks better.

Just some fish sketches. Nothing fancy.

done with it for now

>>3299518
damn it got really compressed

>>3299455
no

finished it

(accidentally posted this in the dying thread)

>>3298616
hehe squad indeed
posted some more shroomies here
>>3297584

I actually saved your first WIP image and started painting over it for fun because I liked it. I think it's looking good, I like the value structure in the foreground, but I don't think the placement of the vehicle is helping (all large shapes on the right).
also I liked the faint building-like structures you had in the beginning >>3290904
and I agree with this anon >>3295309
that this could be an establishing shot for a more intimate composition

>>3298867
Hey thanks picking my stuff OP, I shouyld have posted the final one too :)

>>3299518
Take advantage of the shadow to depict more of the cylindrical form of the leg, chest could also look less plain

<something I started some 40m ago

>>3298867 (OP)
Hey thanks picking my stuff OP, I should have posted the final one too :)

>>3299518
Take advantage of the shadow attire to depict more of the cylindrical form of the leg, chest could also look less plain

<something I started some 40m ago

just finished this

Can I have some critique? I can't tell if I've lost sight of it or not. The center probably looks unfinished, and that's because I changed directions with it pretty late game. Also, some characters in the foreground are omitted for autism's sake.

fuck you in advance

>>3299622
you should honestly just consider swallowing some cyanide

>>3299621
The center mountains have no light on them, unlike the ones on the left. Fix that shit,

>>3299622
I don't have synesthesia, but this picture somehow stinks anyway.

>>3299583
thanks for the tips, my main concern is for her spine which would take to much effort to fix at this point so im leaving it

Can somebody tell me why this sux. Y’all just insulted me

some icy bois

>>3299686
Finally stopped being retarded huh?
It isn't terrible, but it isn't the best either. It looks a little messy, and i think with some fundies and some practice you can make it look alot nicer.

>>3299696
>It isn't terrible
HI ILLASTRAT!

WIP.
I hope I can get some followers with some fan-art. I know it's not the newest thing, but I just saw the last season and got excited for it.
However I think I need to work a lot more on the general mood and confiness.

>>3299683
Dats fuking DOPE, but I feel like the girl's too stiff

>>3299686

if you know your values it would look less shitty.

>>3298867
How can I make this less shit?

>>3299437
hey thanks! he's supposed to have a really squished gorilla nose and basically look very derpy, he's playing with the moths so i wanted him to be grotesque but also pitiful (like a pug or something)

i usually spend way more time structuring things with a sketch but this was a 'free paint' experiment thing cause i barely ever use that workflow, was worried it would look weak as you said so i tried to design him around that.

>>3298915
Did some other stuff as well

>>3299766
is this supposed to be realistic or just a different style of cartoon? if the former, dem symbols mang

>>3299780
these are way better, just work on making them look less stiff senpai

>>3299583

Homework for the illustration course, we were supposed to draw stuff for a fictional textbook.
I hear that the job doesn't pay very well, but you get to make a ton of them, so the trick is to be fast.

>>3299792

>>3299791
so it appears the horse is walking up a hill, but there is no visible hill in the background at the moment, so she looks like she's just walking with her back legs squatting a bit. o do like your colours , have you been drawing while zoomed out?

>>3299798
stfu

>>3299799

>>3299791
>>3299798

idk if this helps or not

>>3299766
loomis

Trying to get better at painting and color theory in general. Any help with this reference?

>>3299847
well in this example it's really not colour theory you should be worrying about, that's accurate as fuck. you also got the likeness spot on. keep this up and you'll be fine, focus more on rendering and brush economy, how to represent textures via painting etc.

>>3299806
no fuck off

>>3299878
what's your damage senpai

>>3299847
Proportions & general likeness is pretty good.

Two things that jump out of me:
1. Flatten your darks a bit into simple shapes. The reference (and other harsh light setups like this) won't have such deep darks. They can often be simplified into one or two dark values to block in shadowy areas. This is most noticable on his left (our right) eye area, where there is more detail than is necessary to describe the form.

2. Neglecting contrast. This is an issue I see a lot of folks fall flat. Contrast does not just mean a contrast in values and colors, but in other things as well. In this case, it's detail and edges. You're still learning painterly techniques so that's fine, but there's a missed opportunity here for you to really nail out some textures which makes the composition of the reference pack the 'punch' that it does. This is especially true in the beard, where you could really get in with HARD lines. This creates contrast between the face and the beard, which right now is currently only contrasted with smudgy values. Identify key areas of high detail vs low detail, and be sure to illustrate them. I really recommend using a brush with a harder edge for this (and just in general) as it will give you much greater control over your levels of detail. If you're working in Photoshop, trying using your brush presets with the Pencil tool instead of the Brush tool - it can yield some great results.

Attached is a really rough example of what I'm talking about. Just my opinions - hope this helps!

>>3298867
Why are Acrylics so fucking hard?
Is it because they dry so quickly?
Is almost imposible for me to archieve a nice look on most things because it always looks so amateurish, and small details are a pain. Anyway I kind of like how it turned out, the flowers look very cheap and half-assed but I put the best I could do doing them, the hair could have ended up better but I really had troubles with the transition and finding the right color for the light part, but overall it was a nice study to do. Are any good books or vids about acrylic painting out there? Most stuff I find is all about Oils.
Would apreciate really much critics.

Having fun with chicken scratches

>>3299900
no rules just tools
you just suck fag boi

how do I git gud with manga faces?

I already do realism but manga faces are so minimalistic and hard to get right.

Still working on this, there are a tonne of things that I'm going to tweak later on such as expressions, tangents etc. I'm just trying to get down a general layer of polish so I can see where it's all going.

>>3299455
>>3299456
matter of opinion.

>>3299469
pls go you are no longer welcome here.

>>3299968
Pretty dang nice anon.

>>3299968
what's your process for this, do you find reference for each figure to get a likeness, and the trees? I'm a big fan

>>3299968
you always draw your girls with wet hair

>>3299968
Nice work, maybe the best I've seen on these threads. Do you have a blog/site that I can follow?

>>3299847
Nice foundation to start from. Maybe use a smaller brush at a higher resolution to get the texture and correct edges.

>>3299766
Do portrait studies from life or photos, and make it as accurate as possible. This will leak into your own work, regardless of style.


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Here's a doodle WIP, trying to figure out my weakest areas.

>>3300009
Oops, too large.
First time posting here

>>3300015
mirin the comp, but use a larger brush to begin with anon

Do you fellas have any feedback on what I should do better when moving on with Dynamic Sketching, based on these drawings from week 4 and 5?

>>3299968
the bottom right girl has a huge head

>>3299793
da vinci one is good

how do these get set out in the textbook? most textbook illustrations float around in white space from what i recall, i'm don't think these non-enclosed pictures would look good

>>3300066
You're right... Since it's the version on my blog I did not bother to fix the edges, but if it was an actual textbook illustration, I'd probably have to do a white layer on top of it. Something like pic pic related.
Nice digits, btw

trying to get my color theory right and clean it up

>>3300115
hey man, what a switch in attitude, glad you're studying

>>3300015
very stiff pose. you should improve your gesture and posing before you try to render like some discount ruan jia.

>>3299536
cool i guess

>>3299766
Don't try to make Guts a black tumblr fanart.

>>3300004
I've done that maybe 3 times over the course of 4 years...

>>3299977
The characters I just sketch over and over until they're in just the right pose. I look at a few indirect references to help get things accurate but almost all of it is made up. Though I used a direct reference for the bottom right lady's head because it was troublesome.

>>3299977
also: the trees are as simple as drawing out shapes of trees with a brush, locking the pixels and adding detail.

>>3299877
>>3299881
>>3300009
Much appreciated advice guys. Now I have a clear idea on what I should be working at.

>>3298867
The colored part is shaped after my signature which is a combination of my initials.

>>3299806
>>3299798
Thanks, This is the reference, I guess I focused too much on the colors

>>3299968
your style reminds me of a guy called riochet or something on deviantart, well done

WIP since I'm a lazy faggot who still hasn't finished the lineart but I wanted to test out how the shading might look like.

What do you guys think? How do I make it "more anime" without oversimplifying it too much. I know that asking this is better in Alt-Style but more opinions never hurt.

>>3299968
Might just be in the top 10 pieces I've ever seen on here. The only critique I could give is that the whole image is a bit too dark, maybe add a stronger light source to create some more contrast.

can somebody give me legit criticism

>>3299694
Could you show the ref? I feel you should use a larger brush and be more wary of edge changes. Keep at it though! Take more time on it too :)
>>3300033
Looking nice, keep at it! An exercise I find helpful (that I need to do more too honestly) is drawing a simple object than turning it in perspective.
>>3300268
You seem to be jumping ahead, what you're doing is very ambitious but you've got multiple issues, the biggest I'd say are - story-telling, proportions, perspective, composition. Having a good line drawing would resolve a lot of this. Nothing personal, it's very good you're being ambitious, but going back to fundamentals and doing studies is your best bet. Studies of still life, studies of photos and figures, perspective studies (drawing figures from imagination, drawing figures on a plane and making sure multiple figures line up), basic anatomy and form studies, etc. Really depends on what you wanna do but painting is very hard since it forces you to do everything to do much more, that's not to say don't paint but there's underlying issues other than color. Line is the basis for all of it, I'd start there, use good books from Loomis and others. Keep at it man! Mileage and adapting are the biggest things.

>>3299722
I was saying it so they didnt fucking go full autistic at having harsh crit.

>>3300273
what do you mean

>>3300271
post your art

Is this any good? Its my first attempt ever. Used MS Paint for the first time.

>>3300281
edgy

>>3299900
looks amateurish because you are not using enough paint, gotta get rid of that canvas texture.
try painting in a piece of cardboard or wood and see if you like the outcome better

>>3300115
also. the reason it is messy is because i am trying to learn gouache and i didnt have a brush pen to do the line so i used a paint brush,

>>3300279
>>3300287
This isn't about my art, I've nothing to prove only wanted to help. It's not about if you used a brush or not (you could've made an underlying drawing with a pencil) it's about the fundamentals you learn from drawing that can be applied in painting.
I've given you my crits, which you asked for, take it or leave it man. I'm not sure what you want, you seem to jump on the defensive when people give you what you request.

Any tips on painting digitally? I'm new to this and after the block in I have no idea how to proceed? Any resources or guides that are good at explaining this?

>>3300291
>>3296213 might help

>>3300289
i just asked to see your art

>>3300115
looks like one of those ghanaian movie posters except not as good.

>>3300311
well its gouache, not oil/acrylic. its meant for illustration/posters. One person said it looks like a 40s circus poster etc. i dont take that as an insult. it is not meant to be fine art. honestly. i do enough of that. i am trying to evolve. i love this painting but i am still working on it. it suppose to FEEL like a comic/newspaper illustration. It was called this by multiple people so i think i succeeded. art is not limited to one genre.

>>3300115
I wish it was on canvas

I was working on this for a day or so. Happy with it at first when it looked like this, my husband said it looked like him, but I fucked it up and now he "looks like Grandpa Simpson". :( I'll post the latest image next.

>>3300328
i guess that a compliment. average people love this painting artists dont. I guess it is divisive. One artist said i should put the paint down and learn to draw. But when i drew this i wanted to stylize. everything except the woman suppose to be childish and the women soppose to be HEAVILY stylised. I dont know why artists hate it. Its a really good painting. the gouache dries fast so i am having craftmanship issues but i love this fucking painting. i am aware the compositional problems. i just wish artists didnt think everything suppose to look real. this isnt realism. it like old comic illustration. outsider art

>>3300331
FUCKING SHIT stupid phone, here's the image again right side up. Also, correction, this is the grandpa simpson version of Trump that I effed up. Is it salvageable?

>>3300331

>>3298867
>no booru to save for posterity

>>3300332
>Its a really good painting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

>>3299780

Did some more anatomy studies and some animals as well.

gonna add some more detail later

This little cutie popped into my head last night whilst I was trying to sleep so I drafted him out today.

Never drawn a backpack before so this is gonna be fun.

>>3299968
it was better with just three girls

>>3300240

Go back to stylization and stay there...

>>3300613
Tell that to literally half of the thread.

>>3299968
Looks fantastic, any tips for picking colors?

I'm going to fuse the layers and start to work on details and refine the rendering. Anything to fix before that /ic/

>>3300697
are you the person on deviant art that made the darksouls/adventure time pic? caus i saved that

painting on some sketchbook scans

>>3300697
Needs more beans.

>>3300700
No I'm not but I saw that image you mentioned trying to get inspiration for mine. It's from some ching I think

>>3299449
Thank you so much, I totally get what you're saying about the proportions now. I mean, I wanted to the arms to look pretty small on purpose but I totally agree with what you're saying about the cockpit, really throws off the sense of scale.

Working with pan pastel for the first time, just a value study.

>>3299537
Thanks for the feedback and all!
Yeah, the more I try to refine something the less I end up liking it. But I can only go forward, you know?

I can't just keep spamming loose ideas forever. I've taken this project on to force myself to finish a piece, to take it to a somewhat refined state where I can say "right, now it's done," no matter how long it will take.

Also, nice mushrooms!

>>3299968
Good as always!
I can't really understand what is going on though. Who undressed the women? Do they wan't to be eaten alive? If not, then why is there no struggling? "Just pull your legs out of its mouth!" Why is there no blood? The animals are cracking their skulls apart to eat them. That's not a critique really. Your artwork usually has strange things going on, and I'm sure you've got it figured out.

>>3299537
Thanks for the feedback and all!
Yeah, the more I try to refine something the less I end up liking it. But I can only go forward, you know?

I can't just keep spamming loose ideas forever. I've taken this project on to force myself to finish a piece, to take it to a somewhat refined state where I can say "right, now it's done," no matter how long it will take.

Also, nice mushrooms!

>>3299968
Good as always!
I don't really understand what is going on though. Who undressed the women? Do they want to be eaten alive? If not, then why is there no struggling? "Just pull your legs out of its mouth!" Why is there no blood? The animals are cracking their skulls apart to eat them. That's not a critique really. Your artwork usually has strange things going on, and I'm sure you've got it figured out.

>>3300803
Not the artist but I don't think the animals are eating them, I think the women are climbing out of the animal's skin.

>>3300807
Ooooooh.
>Just read the filename
That makes a lot more sense.

Did a woman crawl into the fox, and is now trying to get into a badger then?

I'm working on the foreground things but i'm pretty unsure when it comes to texturing rocks and stuff. If anyone had advice on drawing them and texturing in general that'd be very appreciated

critique please

>>3300611
Naw, though I think I need to tweak this a bit, the square format and simple comp was boring. Besides I like the challenge of throwing in as much stuff as you can while trying to balance it.

>>3300227
that was my old username

>>3300240
I was fiddling with adding more direct light, but it might wind up being too much effort this far in.

>>3300811
the other guy is right, the ladies are crawling out of the animals. The idea is that they transform into other creatures through their mouths, but you obviously can't transform into a human from, say, a mouse, that's too much of a size difference so you slowly scale up from mouse to ferret to rabbit to raccoon to dog to human. I imagine there's some magicy shenanigans going on facilitating this process, so if you don't think a raccoon's body could fit inside of a rabbit, you're right... don't think about it too hard.

I'm planning on doing a picture of some characters/ships/whatever flying through the clouds so I was experimenting.

Is it just me or does 4chan darken images?

>>3300023
Thanks, good point, I need to manage my strokes better.

>>3300128
You're totally right, I just did dozens of gesture studies but forgot to apply it. What an honor to be called a discount Jia, thank you.

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Here are a couple of attempts to fix the gesture, first one is the original. Should I chose one to finish or start another painting?

>>3300934
Not 3 at all. #1 actually looks fine to me.

#2 would work better if the ground was also tilted (Pic related). Also, I feel like his garment could do with a little more vibrancy. Just my thoughts!

>>3300921
Reducing images in general will darken them. Your app has to make a guess at a pixel value when reducing, and it generally favors darker. Back when I worked in printing, we'd have to apply curves to images when reducing certain percentages, like a 4.5% curve reduction in the midtones at 100% reduction. (yoou don't want to touch your white and black points, to preserve your contrast values)

>>3300659
Think very hard about the temperature of the light hitting your subject. How saturated is it? Then essentially pick the opposite for the shading. Always remember that a color's appearance depends heavily on surrounding colors.

I think a lot about why we choose specific colors and when but this is mostly organic thought that doesn't translate well to a typed out description.

Also pic related is a good way to think about choosing colors... when in doubt choose your colors along a curve.

I drew Angel from King of Fighters for /v/.

>>3300969
Legs look weird and make her look off balance, go look at some references.

>>3300033
You're certainly a promising anon, it's always nice seeing you posting in /beg/. These are nice, but in some ways I worry that may be a problem. The thing is Dynamic Sketching is a few things. First, it's a visual communication coarse, showing how things exist spatially and also a way of communicating a lot through a little (like gradated texture, contour lines, etc). But it's also a kind of visual note taking, and very helpful for building visual library.

But, that only goes so far in that you're drawing with curiosity, and to understand. I don't want to go into long theory crafty posting here, but I worry you get caught up too much in presentation and details and that hampers how much you learn with each drawing. The hatching and coloring on some of these things doubtlessly took as long as the basic lay ins themselves, in which point you probably weren't learning much

Another example are your leaf drawings. They're nice, very nice drawings of leaves, but what did you learn? Did it improve your shape language? Sense of perspective? Add to your visual library (the pitcher plant drawing seemed a lot more valuable in that regard)? Choice of subject matter is very important, pick yours based on how much you can learn from them, and avoid drawing redundant things.

So if I could give some advice it'd be
1. Don't draw subjects from reference that aren't adding to your visual library and helping you draw from imagination in the long term
2. Don't noodle it. Only spend as long on a sketch as you think it takes for your to "get it".

>>3300271
Thanks. I didn't think my boring ice study would get a response. And yours was helpful. Here is the reference.

Do you think I should have size variation on my hard brush? I currently have it at like 40%, and opacity at 5%, although even at 0% opacity I feel like it's a bit too sensitive; although if I turn pen sensitivity down I know that loose sketching and blocking colours will get more frustrating.

>>3300963
This loosely reminds me of James Gurney's gamut masking, like a real basic version. Just an observation, I approve tho

>>3300969
It's weird that you have a decent level of polish, while failing miserably on basic body proportions.
You made her torso very long and skinny, and the legs fat and stumpy. Pay attention to head proportions in anatomy, remember the middle point of the body should be a bit over the crotch. If you want sexier girls, make their proportions longer overall, and if you are going to break this formula, elongate the legs, not the torso.

https://youtu.be/AzDGO0LssEM

>>3300271
Thank you for the kind words anon. I remember when I was going hard on perspective, I was absolutely obsessed about being able to turn thinks and show object from any point of view I want. I got pretty ok at it too, well, as long as the subject was not super crazy, but like chairs, tables, signs, cupboards etc. I do that a bit with these drawings, where I do not copy a photo or the object/plant from life, but more like I have the reference open in front of me or the subject I am drawing near by, so I can organize the forms to fit my chosen perspective/view.
>>3300997
Thank you for taking time out of your day to write such an detail crit, I really appreciate it. Yeah, I can see it, I do get a carried away with details and colors. I will focus more on drawing to understand. I do feel like I understand leaves better now, but I also agree that I did not get as much out of them as I should have. I also agree that the pitcher plants were the best when it came to understanding a subject. This crit gave me good stuff to keep in mind in the future, thank you anon.

>>3301011
nice, but that nose/nostrils almost look like symbol drawing. they're way too black for the values they're surrounded by.

>>3299683
Looks good, though I can't tell what the girl is doing. Is the monster supposed to be emulating her or the other way around? JoJo's makes me think its supposed to be the latter but the picture portrays the former imo.

>>3300567
I CAN'T FE-

guys i need your help before i do anything to this, i got these red values here ive been playing with light sources but not sure what color i should add to spice things up a bit what do you think
?

>>3301209
OOF resize sorry bout that

edit : resized

guys i need your help before i do anything to this, i got these red values here ive been playing with light sources but not sure what color i should add to spice things up a bit what do you think
?

thoughts?

Need help rendering, the drawing isn't ment to be to technical, just something to help me practice rendering skin, brace your selves I use medibang on a Samsung note

wip, any glaring mistakes so far?

>3301314
I actually really like it, the expression is creative and well drawn. My only advice would just be to finish it.

>>3301331
>>3301314
samefagging hard huh? you must be new here

>>3300884
>>3300898
>>3301225
Git gud. Watch and learn

>>3301400
dat ripped page, ur a fucking master, no joke

wip from playing with narrative. Any good resource for metal/armor texture?


>>3301048
not him but yours has a nice read from far away. I think the main issue is your edges being too mushy and not enough variation and the to bring up the value contrast higher. Try no pen pressure for the block in then when the colors are set in start blending edges.

I have some doubts about lighting, and how it looks overall?

>>3300214
I think I'm just about done with this study. I definitely need to do more to practice painting and rendering in general but it was a fun exercise and thank you anons that helped me out.

any tips for improving this? trying to get used to draw everything from scratch with tablet

>>3301579
dropped image, crap

>>3300015
>>3300934

Here's a my quick take on it. Not sure if it helps, I have trouble with dynamic poses too. I try to mainly keep two things mind while figuring out a pose: Line of action, and Contrapposto. They are simple concepts that I find very helpful.

I wanna paint card art

>>3301580
looks neat, you should try drawing with a flat brush instead of round

Did some Loomis studies and other shit

>>3301456
I feel like you're inconsistent with the bottom light.
If was really from the bottom then face would be getting far less of it, also it changes color from blue on pants to violet on shirt and then back to blue on face.
And the underside of the cape should be in light since it's facing down.

Generally it would be better, in my opinion, to erase most of the lights and leave only strong rim lightning on the edges of the figure for a better contrast.

>>3300898
you have the whole clean line thing going on, that's nice. most people round here chickenscratch

most japn/storyboard line that is ailiased stops and starts because the artist is pausing in between lines describing coherent ideas. your stops and starts are more indicative of caution and hesitance. that hair doesnt feel like hair it just looks unfinised

google search 'lazy lines walt stanchfield' and read the handouts that are the top image results. also learn anatomy. that's not how collarbones relate to the shoulders

>>3299968
i feel like you could make this really fucked up if you did something about that wolf. if you really stretched its jaws out like its tendons were breaking point like it was a snake.

also wtf gun man has a big fuckin torso

>>3301670

You sound like /beg/ trying to crit by regurgitating advice given on the /beg/ thread.

https://i.imgur.com/Rv6eBGt.jpg?1 i've been working with inkbrushes and head structures all day, this is the cleanest thing and probably what i'm most proud of being done today.

>>3301632
its ok
>>3301592
its ok
>>3301589
bad
>>3301580
its ok
>>3301532
its ok
>>3301456
its ok
>>3301427
bad
>>3301314
bad
>>3301250
bad
>>3301225
bad
>>3301214
bad
>>3301161
bad
>>3301011
its ok
>>3300969
terrible
>>3300921
terrible
>>3300898
its ok
>>3300884
decent
>>3300803
its ok
>>3300781
its ok
>>3300713
bad
>>3300704
bad
>>3300697
bad
>>3300560
its ok
>>3300482
its ok
>>3300341
bad
>>3300291
terrible

Did Larva ever come back?

>>3298867
Still tryin to find "muh style"
I wish I could just use my sketches as finished pieces, but I can never make them tight enough
I'm super lazy so I never feel like going through and painting one, but that doesn't necessarily make it look better, just 'finished'

>>3301972
I'm not sure you know what you're talking about...

>>3302016
grats u gave him a (you) well done honestly

>>3301972
>/beg/

>>3301972
O FUCK

I GOT AN "IT'S Ok"!

I always was just bad before

thank you anon!

>>3300225
I think I will leave it as is. I feel like I have learnt enough and further rendering would be pointless

>>3302038
It's beautiful! Only issue I have with it is that the grass towards the back should pick up some more yellow in it and not be so dark. The way you have it now creates this weird sense of it being closer to the viewer than your midground.

>>3298867
not sure if this is cropped. cbf. anyway been working on human bodies and things here will dump a few.

>>3298867
another. one more left

>>3299431
depends on the character. the one on the right seems more take charge and the one on the left seems more sweet. they both look good just depends what youre trying to do

>>3298867

>>3299622
i like it

>>3299686
the face is cool

>>3300281
>>3300281
this is gr8

>>3300033
these are nice to look at

got flamed for starting a thread last time. hope i did it right this time.

>>3301214
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add white

>>3301972
post your work, cunt

Took me too long just to get to this point, I need to fix my method somehow. Maybe use a flat brush, idk. Gonna do another

Sorry, I'm not currently home, so I only have a pic I took on my phone and I'm gonna get straight to work on this once I get home, so I wanted to know what can I fix while it's still a wip?

a fun one

>>3302115
Its ok

wack

>>3301972
I know, now help me fix it you fuckin crab

>>3302185
Good stuff, you got a blog?

>>3302099
Thank you anon, always nice to hear.

I do not really like these pages, but it feels silly to bump without posting work.

>>3301871
you sound like >>3301972, be more constructive next time

>>3302227
her torso's so long mang, check proportions

trying to do more colour stuff

>>3299455
t. bangfag

>>3300898
I don't have much to comment on the quality of these drawings, they are heavily stylized, not bad but also not great... but what I want to say is, draw on a bigger canvas. wtf is this resolution, man

Found this doodle from half a year ago. I kinda like it. Worth putting in rendering effort?

>>3302407
yeah sure why not

More sketches, some reason I wasn't really feeling it today. Maybe because it's raining.

>>3302149

better version. I have no idea where to go from here to be honest, I don't know shadows

>>3302432
also did some hand gestures

crit this please
quick if possible just the most obvious things
thank you

>>3302535
If the eyes are gonna glow, I recommend using sharper brushwork and also adding more highlights in them to make them stand out. Also maybe change the light across his face to be warmer, so that his cold blue eyes stand out more. Otherwise decent.

>>3302545
>>3302545
Thanks!

>>3302366

>>3302494
not how muscles work

Any tips on brushstrokes and general anatomy are welcome, I think I'm on the right track but I think I'm reaching the point where my friends are too nice in their critique.

Can someone redline my mistakes? Im having trouble with torso and hips.

>>3302692
fixed some more glaring issues with the boob shading

Here's two drawings from my sketchbook

>>3302407
By any chance is this from Coil?

>>3302713

>>3302698
/ic/ is the best out of context

>>3302698
it's all wrong
Put your ref in black and white and blur it, it'll help
Values are a hard thing to learn

Warm up

Please rate, asking for a friend. I do sprite work.

>>3302982
Deviant Art tier

>>3302982
/beg/

>>3302983
this

>>3302982
Use this thread: >>3302602

>>3302959
how could you get the rendering on the eyes so good and the positions so creepy

>>3302991
That friend is unfortunately not a beginner, but thanks.

>>3302959

>>3303024
stop samefaggin and loomis

>>3302407
if you do i'll set it as my bg

her eyes are spaced like that because shes some kind of elf woman i guess. can't make up my mind if i want her to be generic medieval or sort of moorish.

Posting in another thread which makes me feel gayyyy but guys I’m a beginner and I don’t know how I’m supposed to improve if I don’t know what good art is suppose to look like?? Any good abstract artists for me to learn this recognition from is appreciated but for now help a nigga out

Doing a screenshot redraw since with school I'm too fuckcincg tired to do anything else.

Testing out colour stuff I've learned. Really liking it so far.

>>3303112
first thought at thumb was "why the fuck did he upload a stock photo of leaves"
could maybe use some more rendering to make it look more realistic at a larger size, but nice job

>>3303116
Thanks, I know, I was rather brisk and lazy. Next one i'll take more care with. Leaf it to me.

Hey guys here is a landscape i just finished in oils

>>3303140
i like the sea part, for me the color of the sky clashes with the sun/god-ray part, and the composition isn't well thought out. but all in all i think you should be proud of it, the actual painting technique is good.

>>3303151
what do you think would work better?

how do i make this pose look less odd?

>>3302655
B-But he's shredded :(

>>3303101
do a better job with the hands. They look nothing like the ref

should i change the hair up?

Wouls you commison an artist for something like this?, if not why?

I'm not sure if i should stick with this style and devlop it, or try something else.

>>3302697
The most glaring issue is that her butt is coming out of her thigh. Forget about the outrageously large butt for now, focus on the structure.

>>3301972
Its shit
Stop doing this in every fucking thread, either give real advice or fuck off

>>3303325
no you fuck off pal,i atleast give people responses when they would get none otherwise. crit or not its a response to put them in their place.

today I found stacked rocks. here are those rocks

>>3303336
hoh fuck didn't realise how bad it looks up close, I have failed you senpai >>3303116

>>3303338
>>3303336
It doesn't look that bad dude

>>3303348
Thanks. I want to learn more patience and texturing, so I polished these turd stones a bit more. But this is very boring and i'm done

>>3303358
It looks a lot nicer now. Damn, edge control really does make a huge difference.

>>3303359
I second this.

I'm not sure if this is working. Is it?

bash

since doing the study of rocks, I tried to improve these rocks. happier with them now.

>>3303372
kinda looks like a rosenquist with more muted colors

>>3299459
hinatard

>>3303271
Oohh you're right the pinky is all wrong.
Thanks anon!

Trying out the incorporation of textures on the drawings

>>3303372
Gonna leave this for now.

>>3303545
blog? Its nice btw Did you use dissolve brush for the noise?

>>3303090
i tried to redraw the cat face in the corner last night. she's supposed to be like a big norwegian forest cat but i'm so bad at drawing animals. any advice?

>>3303599
>Gonna leave this for now.
Why? You don't think this is at a stage where it's 'complete', do you?

Some more (exciting) studies. Need to work on my anatomy more. Been reading force dynamics, life drawing for animators and trying to learn from there. I also need to make my sketches less sketchy and more concise and clean.

>>3303090
The character in the bottom right - rotated in position- looks good for a tribalistic elfwoman. Love the old man sketch too

wip. rendering hair is ass i hate doing it

>>3303838
so far so good, man. this is super pretty.

value/rendering study
Idk shit about digital painting, I'm a tradfag
are you supposed to do everything on the same layer? And only use one brush? Cause that's what I did and idk if that's right
I can post the b/w version if that's easier for you to crit

>>3303838
Hair is - IMO - one of the most fun things to draw once you get the hang of it and you get a grip on a technique that works for you.

What I like to do is to block in all the darks of the hair, and then use a large brush to go in and draw the directions of strands to get the general feel of the structure of the hair. You're not drawing individual strands of hair, but rather trying to describe the direction different clumps of hair using a nice, clear brushstroke. Clumpy, wavy hair like this is fun because there's so much going on and there's a lot of movement to show. You've already got a good base for this, so I'd suggest trying it out yourself. Don't use a brush that's too small though. Again - you're not drawing strands of hair, just the general direction & movement of it.

Once you've got those directional strokes down, I like to go over those strokes with a light value/color and an Overlay / Soft Light layer, using the 'ribbon' technique to draw in any highlights. If you're not familiar with the 'ribbon' technique, search for it on Google - it's very helpful.

Attached is a pretty rough example of what I'm talking about. It's surprisingly fast to do and makes drawing hair a blast. Hope this helps!

>>3299686
You stalking hookers now?

WIP

doodle

>>3303983
cute!!

>>3302713
Disgusting

>>3303599
https://6menezes.tumblr.com
And the noise is just the "dithering" of the xerox machine where I work

Old from 1.5 yrs ago vs now. Hmm. I do like some aspects of my old style but doing it all on one layer was very tedious.

>>3302149
sticky

>>3303186
bend elbow, add more gesture to hand, maybe raise+extend arm.

>>3303993
explain

>>3304046
Technically you've improved a lot but you lost everything about the old piece that made it appealing.

why all the gray?? it's such a boring colour
the eggs being visible had told a nice little story
you have way too much headroom when the bird isn't as big as in the old one
you also don't have enough contrast in the new one to call the birds a focal point

Not that you haven't improved, I think you're just focusing so much on your technical skill that you've lost touch of how to give your artwork life.

>>3304066
Yeah I know it's almost colourless in the new one. Probably desaturated too much. I thought the old one had too much colour though, Considering it's meant to be somewhat bleak and foreboding. This first page is just show that this is the setting and there's a storm coming.

I agree I didn't use much contrast; I think I'm gonna push the warm saturated colours up on the birds and nest so they pop some more. Thanks for pointing that out.

>>3298867
This is prob a noob question, but when you look at a photo, and you're studying the perspective, is the "eye level" always in the center?
Ex: this pic. calves below, ass/head above.

>>3304092
When you say eye level, are you talking about the horizon level?

>>3303336
>>3303358
jesus man don't paint on pure white
they look good too but it hurts to look at

>>3303892
Thanks for this post i'm definietly gonna put what you said to practice instead of just eyeballing where highlights/dark bits should go. What bugs me about hair is how complex it is. With skin you can just slap on colours and blend later, but hair takes a lot of refining to get it right. Here's my ref so you can kinda see what i was going for but royally fucked up lol
https://i.imgur.com/ljdSdxR.jpg
Just need to practice more but i'll get it eventually, thanks anon
Done with this for now though

So this feels... plain, I just don't get anything from it. Maybe is because of the values as everything is light and the stroke is too damn soft, but whenever i try it to give darker values it looks just weird...

Any tips?

>>3304124
why dont you try to copy that green atmosphere? i thought it was really beautiful. You can even use the red of the lips to contrast it, or the red on the cheeks and nose. The effect would be nice i guess, and unique.

why is shading so difficult

>>3303870
It would help to block in your values using a larger brush before adding details and pay more attention to the planes of the head.

Working on a single layer is fine, but learning how to use layers effectively can help if you end up wanting to adjust something later on.

Can I get some opinions on the lighting? Which looks more attractive (or a suggestion for a third one). Please don't tell me to go to Alt-Style. I just want more opinions.

>>3304124
I know you're trying to match the pic but imo it would look better if you gave more form to the hair, like the other anon did.

>>3304142
The proportions look a bit weird. Her neck is long and slender but her torso is huge by comparison. I can't help you with your shading though. Try weightier strokes for the to give it more contrast.

>>3304092
Cameras can be pointed up and down, and therefore it's reasonable to assume that it won't always be at eye level.

>>3304046
As the other anon pointed out, it looks better on a technical level but the old one had its own charm, like something that'd be found in Alt-Style. One isn't inherently worse than the other.

>>3303983
Very cute. Gives me disney vibes.

>>3303358
Thumbnail looks like a cutout from a photo. Very well done.

How the fuck do I watercolor

Other than the proportions that I gotta fix, how am I going with this color study that I'm currently working on

Portrait, going for Terada's style.

>>3304205
It's not bad.
You're failing to recognize the subtle shifts in colour though, like the greens and yellows in the sky, and some purples reds and yellows on the armor.

U got the more obvious ones down tho so kudos!! I swear I don't mean that sarcastically, you for real did a good job and the smaller colour changes can be hard to notice!

>>3301972
kys useless faggot

could someone redline these fucked boots

>>>3297853
*clenches anoos*

>>3304244
b-brendan-sama?

>>3304244
What do you mean? Just look at the reference.
You're drawing the right leg twice the size of the left one by the way

>>3304257
yes
>>3304281
thanks for the help crab

>>3304244
ur tracing, why are you asking

>>3304244

>>3304046
Oh damn, I didn't realize that was you.
Loved the shit out of your old work, nice colors and shapes.

>>3303643
nah. It was a sketch Ill might come back to. Just playing with brushes and colour.

>>3298867
why don't the brushes show up for me?

>>3304255

>>3304374
i forgot the caption but i meant to say i think the composition experiment worked ok for me

>>3304046
Old one is charmng. New one is boring.

>>3303892
>>3303892
This is the most helpful explanation of hair I've ever read. Thanks anon!

>>3299968
the story is really confusing. I think you made it a lot more clear that the ladies are transforming and have to build up to larger animals, I especially like the fox in there. But the men approaching the women are they hunting them? Are they friendly? They're so close and the forest has so little trees so surely they've been aware of each others presence for a while now. Why aren't the woman reacting so calmly when the one man looks so snarky

I'm sure you have a pretty clear idea but it doesn't read so well, I find myself just starring at the most rendered out woman's face and the closest mans face confused.

>>3304197
Right one, duh. In sexy pics you usually always want to shine the light directly on the boobs

More studies and random shit.

Nobody has linked the new thread?

>>3304577
>>3304577
>>3304577
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