/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Some progress. I can't figure out the hair (especially the hairline), I added a bit of head to the top but it still looks off

reposting in case anybody missed it ;o

>>3282832
Thanks, anon. I had to make the /alt/ threads like 6 times in a row and I hated it.

>>3282880
yiff in hell, furfag

>>3282883
Gladly :3c

>>3282745
blog pls

can someone give tips for constructing anime heads? I've been studying proko's guide to drawing realistic heads, but obviously the proportions don't match up with anime style faes (e.g. see the attached image, where it's apparent that the brows and the base of the nose are high relative to her ear and the tilt of her head). I could just memorize a bunch of different proportions, but it's hard for me to figure out what landmarks will have the same relationships regardless of rotation.

The lines are rough, it was suppossed to be just a sketch, what do you think about the colouring?

>>3282944
Skin looks very lifeless, add some reds/oranges around the midtones and possibly cheeks to liven things up.

>>3282933
When it comes to side profiles, just don't bother using any guides. There's hardly any consensus in that department.

nakano

>>3282933
I would find a better image to ref. That one has the head tilted down and the eyes closed.
The difference for anime side profile (compared to realistic) is it's just more simplified

>>3282953
Apart from that foot, your faces actually got a lot better. I used to hate your art because your faces were just so muddy and to be really blunt about it, they just looked messy and just not good. But here, it looks a lot more clean and refined. Good job dude.

>>3282953
Yes! I'm liking it!
The shorts should be creased to follow the rest of the form, though.

>>3282838
Find a girl with hair similar to the hairline you're going for and paint that separately, it'll help you figure out how to apply it to this piece.

>>3282933
The eyes are bigger even if you do more "realistic" anime eyes they're going to be bigger, which brings the nose down. A small chin and youthful faces are what you're going for.

Tbh reference asian girls with circle lenses and double eyelids, you'll get a good idea for the representation they're making that you won't get from drawing western models

Honestly when it comes to anime though you're best off just copying existing anime until you get a feel for it, then applying what you like to your own stylization of it.

>>3282933
you're overthinking it bro. Just draw what feels right!!

>>3282933
Study 3d anime models, sketchfab has some pretty decent ones

>>3282933
draw a whole sketchbook filled with anime heads then you will know.

finished this one, can i get some honest critique?

>>3283149
Don't shade with black, use sharper shadows and highlights for the armor/hair, stay away from pillow shading.

do you guys know some tip or some trainng for the render/finalisation ?, i like my pics but i always feels they lack the pro touch (picture reated )

>>3283168
Could totally pass as a mangaka. I've seen them have art like this.

>>3283168
jesus christ man whats with the perspective? also your hands suck fix those 2 and It's ok otherwise

>>3283168
Your use of line weight and some lines not seeming deliberate and just quickly placed like the floor where it's not even straight or the shadows under the table.

>>3283168
honestly I thought this was a mangaka drawing until closer inspection. I only see a few problems. The hatching in the fireplace flattens the depth, and the perspective is questionable towards the corner and at Cattelya's(?) feet. But overall, this is excellent work. Take my advice with a grain of salt.

>>3283168
Lines are too "clean." Set the minimum size for your brush to something that'll not make your lines taper off like that.

>>3283168
Do the hands on the girl to the left look freakishly small to everyone or is it just me?

Can somebody give me input/feedback/thoughts/critique on how this W.I.P image?

I'm trying to take inspiration from the distinct look of retro/vintage anime such as Gunbuster and Bubblegum Crisis.

>>3283230
What is your drawing process? I have literally never seen anything like this before.

>>3283238
Any specific areas you would like to know? What you asked seems too broad.

>>3283230
Rather foreshortening your drawings first.Also I suggest you that you do lineart first and then coloring.It can get a bit messy if you do multible things at once.And also I don't get the highlights on the eyes.But after all do you have a art blog, ig, twitter or something?I kinda like 80s anime art styles

>>3283240
Not that guy, but the whole working from a specific point then working outwards from it (like in sections--finishing an entire eye before moving to the next eye) is really odd in imaginative work.

>>3283271
I usually do a mix of lineart and coloring (where it makes sense), so then I can see what I have would look like with color, so then I can make changes from there.

Right now, I only have a Twitter, but I mostly get into memes, shitposting, and politics: @BesuBaru

>>3283276
It's kind of odd, but it usually works for me, and that is what I am mostly comfortable with.

>>3283230
Yo this looks really cool. I like it

>>3283230
also, blog?

>>3283289
Thanks!

>>3282953
yilx senpai!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i go by thegreenbeetle and i love your giant loli's! whats a day of drawing study for you like?

Can someone please redpill me on using layer modes for finishing touches? I wanna say it looks cheap but at the same time it does bring out the colors more. Kinda frustrates me that I couldn't just produce those colors in the first place, guess I need to be more daring with my color choices.

Drawing still a WIP but this has been bugging me.

>>3283444
Layer modes are part of the digital medium and are perfectly valid to use to get the look you want. To me it's the equivalent of adding medium to paints to change how they work. If you're painting with oil or acrylic you can add glazing medium to the paint to make it semi transparent and glaze a layer of paint over other paint to colorize it. You can also add gloss to change how light hits it to make it have extra sheen and glow. That's no different than using layer modes to achieve the same effects. These functions exist because of photography too. They could capture a very colorful scene but they too would use similar techniques to emphasize or sharpen parts and downplay others or create other interesting effects. Manipulating the raw image is part of making it your own, in every medium.

>>3283480
Never thought of it that way. I still want to wean off of layer modes but now I don't feel nearly as bad using them for last minute touch ups.

>>3283488
Just one more thought on that, I think a piece should be planned with layer modes in mind. Using it after the fact is what cheapens the look. It stands out just as badly as adding a stock lens flare on top of it. So my advice would be either work with them through the whole process and make everything cohesive or plan to paint it all manually.

>>3283489
That makes sense, I actually was thinking that while trying to come to a conclusion (akin to how regular people tend to abuse Instagram filters). I can definitely see layer modes being useful in the long run, so I'll keep practicing and understanding how to use them effectively.

>>3283492
Good on you. It might be helpful to read up on the techniques I mentioned, manipulating paint and photos this way and to what end they do it. Even when photographers do it the good ones factor the editing in while they're planning and taking the photo, they never tack it on at the end.

Wanted to play with colors a bit

>>3283439
I haven't actually been studying a lot as of late, but I've recently been trying to get studies done -right- instead of quick. I'll use one of those random gesture sites and try to do a 5 minute piece, but most importantly try to do it again and again to get it as close to the ref as possible.

goddamn this is frustrating

why is 3/4 so damn easy to draw. its easier to draw for me than even straight on angles. it's the only angle i can fucking draw

>>3282953
Simple anime head on a heavily detailed realistic body makes it look goofy and out of place. Like somebody shooped the anime head on there. Just my opinion.

>>3283654
that's a nice angle at the right there. good job

>>3283641
i see; and i can understand;
that *is* true. working to study correctly, *is* a far cry more better than repetition if it's not basics. im just studying anatomy a large number of times until it sticks. and make sure to remember all the pieces and stuff inside arms & hands. im just doing quick gestures for now until i get my anatomies solidified. i believe i can then refinforce my gestures when that time comes.

>>3283654
3rd looks better imo don't know what happen to the rest

>>3283664
because everything is facing the same direction.

>>3283175
>>3283178
>>3283186
>>3283205
yeah i got a brain fart for the hand i cant just draw them that day
as for my question maybe i set the bar too high since the general impression is good
now i need to do the same with color
>>3283192
>>3283179
OH thanks for the advice i was thinking about drawing thicker to avoid the "digital ending line""

>>3283759
dont forget not to neglect your story. writing is a skill just like art, except dunning kruger is even more common.

>>3282953
rotated the leg, felt like she was off balance a bit

>>3283768
People don't read manga for story. There books and light novels for that.

>>3283771
if that would be so, why would they bother having a story at all? Why do things like Onepiece do so insanely well even though the art isn't more impressive than say Vagabond or something?

>>3283778
Manga can be interesting or funny without having a deep storyline. You don't need to be Stephen King to write manga.

>>3283791
Anything can be funny or interesting without a deep storyline. A story doesn't need to be deep to be good, either way. But making something funny or interesting is still a writing skill.

>>3283769
Thanks, here is the ref I was following closely to just in case

>>3283804
How do you sleep at night, knowing that you still can't draw a human body on your own?

>>3283804
ref is mid kick-rotation. your piece looks like she just wants to show us how high she can kick.

>>3282832
I noticed that when I'm doing studies of stylized works, there are certain stylistic decisions that I would've thought to be incorrect or look bad were I to do it in my own original stuff.

But on hindsight those decisions actually do look really good.

So how do you internalize/normalize/ingrain these kind of stuff, so that I can do it on my own in my original works, without me ""correcting""" it in the end?

How's this?

>>3283816
Painfully and sadly, but with false hope that the next day will be better
>>3283831
Thanks, I'll look into this!

>>3283867
quite good. Blog?

>>3283394
exciting linework my friend. i suggest a traditional approach to your use of colour and tone, real watercolour on high quality textured paper, so you can get a better feel for how it should sit on the page. the face is very stylized and seems to be coming from cartoons / graphic design, but you seem to be being over ambitious with the form of the hand and body, attempting to depict it quite realistically, but theres a bit of a style-disconnect where the neck meets the body. doesnt really fit! keep the stylized theme more harmonious. try thinking about what you want the artwork to achieve when its complete, and which approach best suits it- for example an observational, traditional realism drawing style may deserve a painterly approach to the lines and tone, as well as accurately depicting light. or a more graphics / illustration based approach, which is rooted in printing processes, would allow more creative freedom in the shading / lighting, but takes more skill to be able to refine down a complex form like a hand gripping a doorknob. i think you would have much better results with traditional techniques instead of digital painting. other tips may be to vary pen pressure, alter the settings on your brush and maybe look into using / creating custom brushes. clean up lines that dont have an aesthetic smoothness / shakiness. some of them swoop really nicely but some, like the neck of the shirt, look lazy and a bit weak. great work though, lot of potential!

anyone having problems uploading images?

>>3283885
whole imageboard can't upload images right now
hiroshimoot abandoned us

>>3283885
Oh damn, thought it was just me. I'm getting some weird connection issue.

it's working now

>>3283907
Wah i like this.

It took me 2 days and I'm still here. Any advice on how to draw better and faster ?

should i stylize the eyes like kr0npr1nz?

>>3283941
Your objects look generic and boring because they lack the detailed information that real world objects contain. Or to say, they are symbols.

Study some actual clothes and derelict buildings and see how you can transfer the information to your drawing.

>>3283941
Draw more.

>>3283971

>>3282865
fucking kill yourself you untalented pedofaggot

>>3283444
stop posting your nasty ass furry garbage

>>3283991
You guys are getting dumber and dumber every day.
>big tits and big hips
>pedophile
Literally can't see the difference in grown ups and children now can we?

>>3283991
>>3283992
Good morning anon

>>3283950
update

>>3283994
It's not even that. The art is bad.

>>3284009
the jawline is a bit wide.

>>3283971
>>3283972
whoa
are you the same anon in /a/?
I swear I've seen your other fubuki art in an opm thread before

>>3284049
Yeah, I often post new stuffs on /a/ opm threads.

>>3284054
Nicely done anon
It's nice seeing your work

Pretty much done with this, was going to do a dick with cum but I realised idk how to draw those so maybe next time
>>3283972
have you pretty much dedicated your life to Fubuki porn now or something?

i'm breaking down

>>3284199
Far eye should not be that foreshortened, make it just a bit wider

>>3282865
i'd like to see more of your work it's really cute

>>3283874
Wasn't expecting such lengthy feedback.
Thanks and ill fix any errors mentioned

>>3283664
because it typically is the easiest for artists, maybe profile but that can be rough too. head-on is most difficult because you have to nail symmetry from side to side (constantly work on both sides back and forth so not to favor one side)

>>3284199
learn how to construct a head

>>3283769
fix the left thigh muscles, if you are going to rotate the foot the whole leg muscles while change of position

Just "finished" this, i don't have a drawing tablet so i was coloring it with a figure tool just for fun. But is it wrong if now i want to render the drawing with vectors and stuff? Or should i just redraw over it with a drawing tablet when i get one? Also, roast me lads.

>>3283670
4chan does not have an italics feature for a reason, do not go inventing your own. No one needs to hear the inflection you type your words in, it's the same reason why ellipses are also frowned upon.

Lurk moar

>>3284265
haha roastedXD

>>3284265
How do I get as good as you?

>>3284011
She's cute, anon. I think you could give those hands a little more structure, though, especially the one holding the cigarette.

>>3284265
>But is it wrong if now i want to render the drawing with vectors and stuff?
why? why do you think it's wrong, why would you ask? if it looks good then do it. people color in many different ways, figure/lasso is a nice way to block in. illustrator/inkscape vector work is a fine way to make things work too especially with gradients and gradient maps.

>>3284266
>this is my /ic/
fuck off kid

>>3284303
I'm asking because it's my first time doing it and i don't even know every tool yet, but thank you.
>>3284280
I'm not even as good as the average drawfag here, i just have been trying to do what everybody says in /ic/: study anatomy, proportions, perspective, shadowing and draw, draw and draw.

>>3284207

>>3284320
You really should slow down and try to be more deliberate with your lines, that jacket is just a mess

came up with these; shota dick from heaven, resting at a bench from dragging that huge dick around, and tied up hanging with amazed onlookers
not sure which is more interesting

>>3283444
I need to start studying backgrounds.

>>3283638
Liking the colors. Might just be me but the part of the eyebrow ridge that meets the eye sockets (where it dips into the crevice) should line up with the ends of the eyelids. Looks pretty uncanny where it stands right now.

>>3284186
These two pages has a lot of Fubuki, but it's not like it's only about her. This opm doujin project have three parts and she mostly have screentime in the first, and just a bit in the two others.

Besides that I also end up getting some opm related commissions among the ones I take.

>>3284265
>>3284265
right so, her right hand looks a bit off, the fingers (minus thumb) could potentially be fine but the hand itself looks off, the thumb looks off too. Her sleeve on her left arm looks a tad off, I'm not too sure if its rolled up or why it looks so marginally different from the other sleeve, seeing as it kind of bends outwards? Her toes on the left foot seems a bit left out, unlike on her right foot.
I'm not too sure about the hat, something seems quite off about it.

>>3283841
that kinda stuff just happens when you become more comfortable with your own particular style.

Usually a result of having drawn that way before and doing what you know looks right because of previous practice and altering slightly but connecting properly to make it look nice. vague but the best i can say since it was a vague question

>>3283867
Draw a collarbone or at least shade it it will help to add shape to the torso which has little definition.

wrist connection on her right arm is wonky af.

her left arms perspective just looks fucked / odd bend before the elbow.

angle of the thighs seems off/ large thighs no ass.

>>3284399
shun is the superior husbando

>>3284444

>>3284199
Head is too wide with the eyes not making sense. Study references more closely - You're close to getting it but not quite there yet. I like the mouth a lot.

What texture are you using btw? It's nice.

I'm trying different stuff, but im not sure if i like it? Crit is very much welcome.

>>3284516
I like it a lot anon. There are some structural/anatomy problems in a few spots. The hand holding the hair is awkwardly positioned, I think it might look more natural if it was turned palm up instead of down. There are some small issues with the way the breasts are pressed together and the thigh part of the lifted leg but I'm not sure how to describe it... maybe I'll attempt a paintover.

>>3284399
You should stop drawing furries

>>3284527
You should stop telling people what they can and can't draw, fagboy

I just finished this, what do you guys think?

>>3284633
beg as fuck

>>3284633
pls fundies

>>3284516

i love it honestly , and i hope you have a v good day

>>3283769
needs a more exaggerated line of action to fit into the style of her face
>>3284633
phew boi i'm gonna attempt to redline but i can't promise mutch besides redrawing the whole damn thing

>>3284766

alright, Ill just try and do something else because I dunno, I was trying to see how Id fared going in that direction, because I was working on something else and I wanted to see how people would feel about how it generally looked like usually

>>3282953
>>3283769
it's like her head doesn't match the body

>>3284856
This t bh

>>3284856
>>3284874
I mean, duh? This is just a case of the artist deliberately drawing an anime head on an overly realistic body. Of course they're not gonna "match," but they did a good job of using the two together.

>>3284879
>This is just a case of the artist deliberately drawing an anime head on an overly realistic body
I have only seen that in bad anime comedies, and it's not with that kind of effort.
>but they did a good job of using the two together
No, it looks odd, like someone just pasted the head on it. But it's my opinion, do whatever you want with it.

>>3284890
muscleloli is an oldfag and has been doing this since the dawn of time. its literally a case of 'muh style' and they seem to enjoy it so dw about it

>>3283841
you gotta master da rulez before you can break da rulez

basically, keep practicing, it will come naturally.

>>3284199
It's getting there but its being kept from being cohesive. Where your character sits in 3d space is unclear, mostly due to how the perspective changes from the head to the body. The head feels flat in the back, so give it a bit more mass for balance. Based on her pose and expression she's pretty tense, but her body language doesnt portray that very well. Bringing the shoulders in closer to the frame helps show she's in a 'defensive' pose. Keep it up, its about perseverance.

>>3285050
Do you study loomis or is it a meme? Do you just draw anime over and over again to get better? What is the most important thing you think you need to do to get better? Is it simply just erasing and fixing and observing your mistakes and changing them until they look right?

>>3284984
didnt know there were people who are into toddlers with down syndrome

>>3283768
oh yeah dont worry i read john truby's and vogler books about story and storytelling

>>3284204
i think so too, ty.

>>3284475
i actually thought the head was too tall originally, so i shortened it

>>3285050
wow, this helps a ton! ty anon, you are very skilled. i tried to follow the reference too closely, i think that can be a bad thing.

>>3285050
whut is an anon this good doing in /ic/?

>>3285118
To make everyone else feel like shit.

>>3285129
Too bad senpai, I feel like that all the time.

>>3285050
blog pls

>>3285094
Cute cosplayer

>>3285050
WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US

>>3285093
care to sauce?

So when's there going to be another anime style thread?

>>3283907
this is really nice, i love the linework

>>3285409
probably when the mods stop deleting them

rika jougasaki in a lewd bikini

>>3285557
Neat, but her crotch looks flat.

Can I post images now?

>>3285557
blog?

can't post images

>>3285621
good

>>3283971
>>3283972
WHERE IS THE FUTA DICK!?

>>3283230
spot on with the colors. did you use some filter to give it a retro look?

>>3285694
>spot on with the colors. did you use some filter to give it a retro look?

I didn't use any fillers. It mainly comes down to the colors and shades used. It could also be because of screenshot compression.

I'll probably add a grain filter sometime, but as a separate image. I plan on using this for some game project concept art.

Any opinion on this? I want to colour it later.

>>3285785
she needs shoes

I have no idea how to cellshade. Can someone give me some tips?
The arm is wrong, I know.

>>3285332
sauce about what ?
john truby book ?

>>3283674
beg

Just realizing now her back foots way too turnt to the side whoops

>>3285806
Redraw the lines. What you have there is a sketch at best, and if you're going for cel shading, having good linework is important.

i've been playing Meagan Legends 2 and boy is it good. any tips for my next drawing or anything you recommend with this one?

>>3285806
practice doing thicker cleaner lines first

>>3285094
>kizuna ai, kill your self for real.

friendly neighborhood goat.

>>3286176
Hello, goat! Your eyes are looking a little higher than they should be.

>legacy captcha is no longer supported
RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>3284012
art can't be bad anon..

>>3286330
cut down on the lsd man

>>3282832

>>3285640
Look in Fubuki's eyes in the 6th panel of the second page.

>>3286487

You're no oreo

baaaaaaaack - with small shit changes

I managed to find like 2hours to work on this (Im a full time student in tech)

Crit on anatomy, yes im garbage so please help.

>>3286920
>2.84mb

an hero.

>>3286846
what does this mean

>>3286926
we had a guy named magic oreo in /las/ who used to draw the same character

>>3287249
Fuck, dude, have you ever LOOKED at Spongebob?

>>3287249
cute but lines are too feather imo

>>3287265
crap I meant feathery

>>3287252
lol just realized that i forgot the arms.
yeah, i used a ref. never actually watched the show

>>3285785
>>3285842
Blog?

about to color this shit

Does anyone have any good webm/gifs of the overexaggerated animation sequences during the Naruto vs. Pain fight? I unironically LOVE how well made it was (despite the controversy), and I see potential in learning that kind of stuff. Similar animation is also appreciated.

I'll ask in the animation gen once they make a new thread.

hhh there are so many great artists in this thread I feel dumb for posting this random character design I doodled.

>>3285785
oof, I like this. The hand holding the balloons needs a little work, maybe try to find some references of hands in that position to look off of. Otherwise you have some really nice lines going on here, especially on the legs/skirt

>>3285557
looks solid so far, the foreshortening on the body is good but mayyyybe make the head a tad smaller to emphasize that. Really nice anatomy tho.

>>3287366
this is wonderful and i'm in love with it, blog? instagram?

>>3287404
>>3287379
>>3287366
lol...

>>3287404
Lmfao wtf

I'm so sick of this shit, every time I draw, something different comes up. Like I can't keep one style, I can't draw the same character in different angles, so tired

>>3287404

>>3287404
>>3287486
why are they vibrating?

trying to capture an intimate moment

>>3287486

>>3287557
The dress looks good

>>3287560
Thanks dood

>>3287610
SO GOOD

>>3287645
thanks dood

>>3287610
If I didn't recognize your style and knew your subject matter I wouldn't have recognized the character. You're taking a lot of liberties with the hair there.

>>3287378
>well made
>near universally hated

Sorry anon but you just have shit taste.

>>3286184
Face is a bit flat but I really like it overall

>>3287378
>>3287774
The issue with that whole fight is that it overdoes the 12 principles of animation. If you take them too far shit gets wacky, you need subtlety. I should start a petition or something to add "subtlety" as the 13th principle. I also have no idea why they decided to get experimental during one of Naruto's biggest fights.

Critique/redline pls.

>>3282865
it's really beautiful anon

>>3284984
its realy good

>>3285050
Hmm, Kizuna Ai's tiddies.

>>3287366
B L O G ?
L
O
G
?

>>3283769
The bottom foot was fine how it was. When you roundhouse kick like that your bottom foot pivots backwards away from you. We used to be taught that when you roundhouse your bottom foot should be pointing completely away from you.

>PSD of something I've been working on for a very long time got corrupted

Finna kill myself senpaitachi

>>3287876

Are there any good guides or videos about drawing lineart? I mostly draw traditionally because digital is so clunky, pic related

>>3287925
your lines are too thin and you are probably zoomed in pretty far when you draw

>>3287810
Where's my (You)? :(

>>3287925
Blog? How are you so good?

Made a little more progress on this and I think I'm figuring out some things about coloring. I need to try to get the eyes back closer to how they were in the rougher version.

>>3287749
Why are you lying? She's almost exactly the same.

>>3287877
A good reason to switch over to Clip Studio Paint. After all, it saves a backup of each session.

>>3287314
>>3287379
Thanks! I picked up drawing after some time so I don't have an active blog now. Also thanks for the crits, yours looks really cute!

>>3287610
And done.

>>3287774
>>3287792
I'm speaking solely in terms of how it was animated, not in terms of the context of the entire scene. And yes, I know it's taking the "principles of animation" to the extreme. I'm literally asking for examples of "overdone" smearing and whatnot in animes/cartoons.

>>3288217
Holy shit this looks good anon
Though you should probably use the anime font used for scanlations and not handwrite

>>3288229
I prefer handwritten because It combines better with the rest of the page to me.

>>3287366
WIP. I wonder how to color eyes without gathering too much attention to it; while having high saturation and hue difference.

>>3287379
>>3287865
https://legochalk.tumblr.com/

>>3282832

Quick shit

>>3288234
your faces are unappealing.

>>3288282
O BOI HERE WE GO

?

>>3288298
lol someones triggered. hes right tho, prove him wrong.

>>3288376
> prove him wrong

Not him but you're the one coming in and saying something with no arguments.

>>3288217
The bodies are really nice, like seriously, props dude, but your faces are always super flat. Inb4 "anime", they could use some rendering and don't adhere to any 3d form

>>3288380
im not him, but i am agreeing with him that the faces have no appeal. now stop being a little bitch

>>3288018
Not sure if you're joking m8. Haven't made a blog because I'm still shit

>>3288234
ohh, its so nice

>>3288149
I was actually planning to switch over after finishing that piece anyways. How good is the layer functionality compared to PS?

>>3288702
Not that anon but way better imo. There are slightly less options but the program handles color so much better overall I've still gotten nicer results than I ever did using PS.

>>3288643
nice work

>>3288643
Pretty good, a few pointers, mostly compositional
>try not to have the staff be totally flush and 1-point with our POV. It flattens the whole drawing when everything is a little tilted away from us but the staff is dead on. I get you wanted to show off the design but this is a full piece not a thumbnail of the silhoutte
>The graphic rectangle creates a lot of bad tangents. There's two with the right side of her hair, one where her right thigh plate touches the corner, and in that same area one where the space between the character and the staff is too close for comfort
>Also if you want to add a graphic shape as a background find one that compliments the character silhouette. Think of the silhouette as one large simple shape (triangle, circle, rectangle) and choose a different shape to compliment it. Your character's silhouette is roughly rectangular, so a rectangle of about the same size as the character and proportions similar to the image itself was the worst possible shape you could have chosen.
>also not sure why you decided to crop the character, seems like you cropped off the parts that'd be easiest to draw. Doesn't really do the composition any favors either, almost all of your negative space is partitioned in big rectangular chunks because of the rectangle, cropping, and staff.
>I'm not much for criticizing the design or anatomy bit by bit but tl;dr there's no unity. She has the helm of a demonic sorcerer, staff of a holy priest, armored shoulders, wrists and thighs but not chest, and even her clothes are a mix of more feminine and roguish styles. If I were playing a game that had this character in it, like an MMO, I would not be able to guess what class or alignment they were just by looking.

Basically good fundies but work on your design and presentation anon, you'll be pro if you get those things right.

>>3288234

lovely...

>>3288884
good crit.

progress

>>3287379
i made her head big to make her extra loli, i tried making it smaller but she looks too old to me? maybe i'll try it again when i get back to that one

>>3289022
really like your stuff. Do you have a blog? I remember I saved your twitter somewhere but I lost it.

>>3289022
good niro

>>3288234
done with this. just plumbered everything with very close hue range.

>>3289143
faces look a bit young compared to their bodies, perhaps make a more definitive choice between children and boobs

>>3289022
Linework, drapery and hair are all great, but the anatomy falls a bit short. By comparison her right arm is small to the proportions of the rest of the body, and the posing feels stiff and vague around the rib cage and pelvis, so make sure they work together to make the pose read as best as possible. Also, changing her right hand to a pose with a stronger angle allows for a better arc and sense of movement with the drapery its carrying

>>3289165
shit senpai
just show us your blog

Got the sideburns worked on. I've heard from feedback that I should make the hair a bit more fluffy.

I'd also like to make the hair a bit more reddish.

>>3289436
shouldn't you be drawing the whole head + hair first before focusing on the detail of her face?

>>3289444
Sure, that's one way to go about doing it.

However, I usually work on the head and the face before doing the hair, so then I can draw the hair in a way where it would compliment everything else.

Also, detailing at an early stage would give me a basic idea on how things will look before it gets polished.

>>3289436
A few things: her eyes seem really far apart and the lack of tapering on those lines, especially the ones near her eyes and above her nose bridge, seems rather unattractive

>>3289451
You're running the risk of getting the proportions of the rest of the head all wrong by doing this. Big picture first, details later.

>>3288015
that hand lmao

>>3288884
>>3288884
agree on the square, will remove it
and the staff, gotta put the time to redraw it in perspective, I was too lazy for that

the design is not mine, there are just minor changes, it's OC from a low poly mmo which doesn't make that much sense in that regard

my fundies are improving but the struggle is not

>>3288217
Next page in progress, shading is next.

>>3288217
Next page is in progress, shading is next.

>>3289445
Blog?

How do you do to stick to a style ?

>>3289143
How did you learn to draw anatomy ? How much do you use references ?

>>3289149
yeah I see what you mean. I'm not familiar with moe style and usually end up somewhat lukewarm loli face. I'll concentrate more about that next time.

>>3289745
I'm not an organised person. I just draw anything I want to. but there's a few personal principle that i follow : no eraser. / no baseline. / draw twice per ref. first, try copy exactly in precision. and then, draw it again without looking. finally, compare those two.
almost all of my studying depends on references. I become human photocopier. except when it comes to making OC. I didn't use reference for that image except for a foliage texture at left side background and fishes.

Is this a good method?

>>3289952
Yes, but of course you need to know what you're doing or the errors will be all the more obvious.

>>3289165
why is every fucking retard attaching the breasts to the chest all wrong. that ugly line extending to the armpit should be nonexistant

An anon was asking for help with this a while ago and I said I'd try to help with the face.
If you see this anon I hope it helps. I tried not to change too much of what you had, mostly changed some proportions. I made the head taller, the eye a little bigger (big eyes are appealing even on males but try not to make them proportionately too big) and gave him a bigger jaw. You weren't far off from the Taylor Kitsch features, once I re-positioned the things I mentioned it already looked a lot like him, at least to me.
Good luck anon and sorry I took so long.

>>3289952
This always looks stiff imo

>>3289968
You could either blame the original pose or the artist's skill, but it's 100% not because of the method.

>>3289963
Some of this still looked awkward to me so I touched it up a little more. Most of it was nothing, the only noteworthy changes were making the upper lip shorter and widening the bridge of the nose up near the brow.

gotta stop drawing free hand

>>3289855
>no eraser. / no baseline. / draw twice per ref. first, try copy exactly in precision. and then, draw it again without looking. finally, compare those two.
OK so I tried this, I see the point, but how do you go from a sketch from a reference to this (>>3289143) kind of utilization of the anatomy ? Like is it with practice and time that it becomes easy/natural ?

i'll get to constructing the head eventually

>>3289165
>>3289165
holy fuck you are one of the best artists on this board, look at those clean forms and lines

Going back to my roots.

>>3289165
Thanks for the help, I tried to have the shoulder as exaggerated as your example but it looked very strange to me no matter what I did so I toned it down some. I gotta get this done tonight so I can't make too many more changes but hopefully it's better now?

>>3290054
before I explain, please keep in mind that my method may not be the best choice for learning something.

the foremost goal of my study is to make drawing very trained and experienced to the point that I could draw it without consciously thinking about it.
for example, when I'm making OC from imagination, I gotta draw arms 1. without ref. / 2. without erasing too much. / 3. finish penciling under a minute per arm. If I fail to, then it's not good enough for me. because I must don't know how arms work and looks. so I just draw arms over and over and over. I can practice arms over a hundred times a day because I don't really care about quality. ( note that I don't use eraser and baseline ). I just flood my brain with arms. I don't care how bad and messy it looks. because it's practice.

I think the most important point of this method is comparing two drawing pairs from same ref. I think If someone want to draw well, he must know where he mistakes. without eraser and baseline every aspect of every practice must go somewhere wrong in a huge level. ( as I'm not kim jung gi level. ) then I can somewhat easily examine between the one drew by looking ref, and the other drew in pure imagination, and finally ref itself. both approach bounds to have errors in different aspect.

in short, I draw something deliberately making many mistakes (no erase no baseline). and find out what did I go wrong (two drawings per ref and compare). and try not to make that mistake next time (drawing over and over).

again this method is not proven to be successful and I don't think it is a good method other than lineart comfort zone dwellers like me.

>>3285050
Jesus fucking christ thats so crisp, looks better then real life.

>>3289610
Don't have one yet for now but thanks!

>>3290179
Thanks for taking the time to explain, it's a proven method I think, it's called practicing, in a special way of course but it's practice anyway. I will use this method to draw more for the next months and see if it works, thank you !

>>3289445
whatch out, the pupils tell something, like the mouth or the eyebrows. Good job tho

How's this?

>>3290516
The part under her armpit is leaning too much on the left. Sorry my engrish can't explain it well. Also the way her hand is placed on her waist looks like she's holding her breath /or her arms and hands aren't relaxed enough. Maybe have them placed on the hip area?

>>3290341
The transition from neck to traps should be much sharper.

>>3285050
That is not how the neck works.

>>3290516
you gotta think about every line you're putting on canvas
does it need to be there? why does it need to be there?

>>3290656
For being a main feature, the toes don't look very detailed at all. Although I'm assuming since it's a sketch, you'll work on it more.

The girl's torso looks extremely short. I get that you're trying to go for some extreme foreshortening but the angle she's facing doesn't really allow for that.

>>3290656
blog??

>>3290660
>Although I'm assuming since it's a sketch

Well, it's literally in the filename.

>>3290660
Yeah, I could make the torso longer, felt like it was working at first but it does looks weird.

>>3290663
http://thegoldensmurf.tumblr.com/

>>3289165
>>3285050
Please I need your blog

How do you study to get this good?

>>3290516
Blog?

new thread >>3290742

>>3282865
It's nice but clean your linework, even if it's sketchy it looks rough as hell, not like ink drawing

>>3282906
i was on vacation, sorry im so late

yaow12.tumblr.com

I'm hoping someone could help me with this sketch I'm working on.

Been drawing for a while now, but I'm using homemade photo reference for the first time. I like the overall gesture that I was able to capture, but the torso and how the left leg (her left, my right) is attaching to the pelvis seems to be kicking my ass. I don't know. I can't get her obliques to look right at all.

I'm kind of a fatass so I don't think that's helping get her stomach and legs the right size and orientation.

Anybody know a good medium to go with oil pasteles