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Not being funny right but i fucking spend hours making some pretty stunning art and this is the kind of shit my city puts on display in galleries?! What happened to actual creativity? Why is this the only sort of shit we see? I've gone round galleries trying to get exhibitions but if this is what shit people are displaying then i guess my talent is just fucking wasted. Makes me pissed.

>> No.3275031

>it's another idiot tries to shit on contemporary art
>implying you can do better
prove it idiot

>> No.3275038

>>3275025
>>3275031
yeah post your art OP

>> No.3275042

>>3275025
Packing materials from the dumpster are art. You just don't have the requisite IQ to appreciate it. I bet you don't even watch Rick & Morty.

>> No.3275049

>>3275042
>paint from a tube is art
Yeah so ironic man lol le reddit and morty fans so dumb xdd

>> No.3275058

>>3275049
OP just post your own art

people can appreciate contemporary and classical art both, for completely different reasons

>> No.3275102

It's for money laundering purposes or the people involved are so pretentious they sniff their own farts

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>>3275025
>he doesn't know that fingerboxes have aged to the point of being high art
You're a tall glass of Plebeian, OP

>> No.3275124

>>3275102
>It's for money laundering
this idiot again

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>>3275025

>> No.3275127

>>3275124
Do you have a better explanation?

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>>3275125
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/27/pair-of-glasses-left-on-us-gallery-floor-mistaken-for-art

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3275130

>>3275124

>> No.3275142

>>3275025
I know it's become a meme, but what actually is modern art.

It doesn't seem like anyone would be duped by the pretentious comment, "you wouldn't understand."

I can't think of any value this has to our culture.

Who invests money into this, and why?

>> No.3275144

>>3275025
I'll tell you what it is. It is student works from any given mediocre art university around the world. they won't call their sculpture classes "sculpture class" anymore, no Sir, they are giving out, new fancy names for that, because anything else would be boring. "space and figuration technology" or "plastic conception" or ANYTHING but "sculpture" alone.

What you are looking at, is literally your typical first or second year gypsum cast crap. "oh, i know, i will cast an egg out of concrete, because this is a very smart way of shifting the material perception in the viewer!". They will typically cast flower packaging, chocolate boxes, cups etc. It's the same everywhere, at every modern art university. Some call it bold, others call it "been done before", I call it "beginners mistakes" or simply "now get over it".

>> No.3275146

>>3275130
You take the example of some greedy cunts and take that to explain the entire modern art community worldwide, including people who dedicate their life to it and may never become famous.
So, when you don't like it, it's money laundering, when you think it's some housewife-art, it's ngmi, when it's anime or porn art, it's the best thing ever. And when it's art that sells for high prizes, it is always money laundering. That's a very simple worldview you have there, anon. Does it work out for you?

>> No.3275148

>>3275146
>hey dude you may be dismissive of the art I like but I'm dismissive of yours too!
Yeah, that's pretty typical.

>> No.3275150

>>3275146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af2yvR4hVd8

Pierre Brassau: The Chimp Who Fooled Art Critics
http://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/pierre_brassau_monkey_artist

Also: Rothko, Judaism con artistry personified

>> No.3275153

>>3275130
It makes sense in a sinister way you see art like this can't be judged by craftmanship and skill.
If you make junk be accepted as art, there is no telling one junk from an other. People will just pick the junk they are told is art.

>> No.3275157

>>3275146
>including people who dedicate their life to it and may never become famous.
LMFAO
Borderline retards so far up their own ass they deserve their fate

>> No.3275161

>>3275150
>Monkey art
>Rothko schmothko scam bullshit

you're been spamming this same shit on here for over two months at least. don't you ever get tired of your own repetition, you parrot?

are you by any chance the Dunning Kruger shitposter? i see a pattern there.

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>>3275161
I haven't been on /ic/ in a long time, you're getting upset that different people can see past the bullshit and call a spade a spade. Modern art is trash. Pure, unadulterated, unfiltered, trash.

>> No.3275172

>>3275164
>I haven't been on /ic/ in a long time
is a meme

the monkey art story says nothing about modern art and merely points out how stupid and gullible some people are. is it remarkable that this monkey "paints"? yes, it is. should his pictures be sold? yes, they can be sold and anyone who is interested can buy them. why? because buying an artwork is all about possessing the story behind it. the story of a painting monkey is worth telling. does it make sense to buy the paintings? yes, if they go to charity for the zoo, absolutely. so fuck your monkey meme and fuck your easy answers. there is nothing simple about art and your three shit stories don't hold true for all of modern art.

all those "modern art sucks" threads directly translates to "you shouldn't like that, because i say so", seasoned with some antisemitic conspiracy shit.

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>>3275161
>Everyone who disagrees with me is the same person

Yea, okay buddy.

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>>3275172
The prominent and respected art critics are the ones that praised the chimp's "art." Everyone else without the innate compulsion to be a pretentious snot can instantly see that it was shit.

Do you have some skin the modern art scam game?

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>>3275180
>>3275176

just a few weeks ago, some /ic/ faggot kept posting "i could do that!" threads on modern art, pic related.
he showed the same stubborn mindset as some cunts in this thread do. maybe he's reading this. i wanted to know how he based his judgement around modern art, what his background was. so i've lured him into a chat.

>> No.3275186

>>3275164
that dragon tail looks like shit, says enough about the rest of the sculpture.

>> No.3275190

>>3275185
This is impressive. It evokes the feeling of a mental asylum, feeling physically trapped but mentally free of reality. The brushstrokes are bold and sure, the black strokes on the empty white says a lot about the futility of all existence. I would expect to pay at least a million American dollars for this masterpiece.

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>>3275185
>pic related, from another one of his threads

so I've asked about his background. turned out he's a polish kid living in the uk, quite poor. i asked him what his experience was with modern art and he said, he had none. do you ever go to see exhibitions, i asked. no, he "can't be bothered". so i went on to ask him about his art. he was too shy, but reluctantly uploaded some traced shit drawing of a wolf.

this is literally one of the self-proclaimed "modern art experts" on /ic/. he is a poor kid, living abroad, can't afford shit and to top it all off, he doesn't even know what the fuck he's talking about, literally never goes to see exhibitions.

let that sink in.

>> No.3275192

Tbh what the art critic said about the chimps painting is true about the artist, the chimp.

Painting monkeys are pretty interesting. It is written that they paint with the same focus as a child abd actualy finish their pictures at which point you cant bribe them to continue working on the picture.

>> No.3275195

>>3275176
This is impressive. It evoked ancoent egypt hieroglyph symbolism, simplified to express the universal sign for joy, laughing in tears, along with the color yellow, a very positive mood color. the loop is perfectly constructed, without any visible start or end point. I would expect to see this loop in the next "GIF" exhibition in a modern art museum.

>> No.3275196

>>3275191
Just because he is still learning to draw doesnt mean he cant have an eye for beauty and taste. This proves nothing. His shitty wolf trace has no lower quality than the """art""" discussed here.

>> No.3275199

>>3275196
... says another "expert". i'm sure of it.

i've saved the chat log somewhere, can post it along with the shitty wolf and will in future, as often as these type of threads will come up, if you like.

>> No.3275200

>>3275191
The background story here really adds to this fantastic painting. Knowing that the artist is a destitute immigrant living in the United Kingdom far away from his native land adds a poignant touch to this melancholic piece. The purplish shade in the center surrounded by blues, tans and greens shows that his heart is still in the country of his forefathers, also it is an evocative reminder of the Holocaust. The brushstrokes are delivered masterfully, I would expect to pay at least 10 million American dollars for this fine piece.

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>>3275192
>at which point you cant bribe them to continue working on the picture.
For a moment I was transported into the barely sentient mind of a monkey artist as his trainer tried to bribe him with bananas to continue working on a painting he already finished. Even a monkey feels that sense of pride and accomplishment, that painting isn't just paint haphazardly slathered on a canvas. It's an expression of himself, and if he were to paint over it he'd be trampling over his own expression. When he is old he will still look fondly on that painting, it's a reminder of himself. Even though he's just a monkey, he is still proud to be alive and who he is.

>> No.3275206

>>3275199
Go ahead post it.

>> No.3275210

>>3275201
This is impressive. The three faces are aptly arranged to evoke sequential movement, much like an animation. the viewer is taken into the state of mind of the scarcely sketched-out figure that seems to be in distress. as it looks to the left and right, the camera zooms in, adding to the dramatic effect. the brushwork is excellent and was probably done with a wacom intuos pro, a must for all concept artists, especially the many many professional and famous artists lurking on /ic/ ... so much potential, so many gmi type children on there! such a versatile crowd, so talented, open-minded and well literate, all without exception have a vast knowledge of art history!

>> No.3275213

>>3275118
This is impressive. The dark, faded colors of the advertisement evoke a look back into recent history, a time of our parents and grandparents. The old-fashioned design draws your attention with the thirst-inspiring rich glass of orange juice, right next to the ripe fruits with a peaceful, urban backdrop. the rips in the paper are well-captured by the scanner, adding to the timeless character of the piece - an old advertisement, scanned and preserved in its current state forever.

>> No.3275220
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>>3275206
>>3275200
>>3275196

the difference between you shallow little mongoloids and people with an understanding for art is that you are completely unable to differentiate and relativize. i wrote this >>3275144 and i hate entry level and amateur modern art just as much as anybody. but this doesn't hold true for all of modern art. your constant and unreflected contempt for anything that is contemporary is showcasing nothing else but your blatant ignorance and insularity. You've shut yourself off from anything that doesn't remotely meet your interest and you've probably chosen a limited set of genres that you occupy yourself with. given that this is /ic/, chances are high that these are ranging from porn art to manga or whatever floats your boat. You look down on people who dare get something out of modern art, just because you little snotty twats have seen two or three articles online, shitting on some really bad and truly pretentious modern art pieces that 95% of the public will hate. You pic some random work by Sarah Lucas that was out for auction, post it with the price tag and disregard looking into what that woman has done besides that, let alone take your time and look into what the stories are behind her work.
the truth is, you don't have the capacity to do so. you are ignorant, no idea about art history, no comparison, no comprehensive reading skills for art theory. is that elitist? yes, art is elitist. art isn't for everybody. good art that is one step ahead of its time was always controversial. time will tell what remains of it. if you can't get anything out of it, then fuck off. go back to your hentai, your naruto, your inuyashiki, whatever the fuck it is you like and stop comparing your taste with other peoples taste, as if you were measure of all things by some fucking miracle.

>> No.3275232

>>3275220
The lines of reality are blurring

>> No.3275234

>>3275232
>The lines of reality are blurring
have a (you) for your shitty reply

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3275235

>>3275220
>you cherry picked the bad Sarah Lucas pieces
>posts some crappy casts with cigarettes hanging out of the anus hole and vagina
soooo deep, if you don't like this masterpiece you must be a weeaboo

>> No.3275237

>>3275235
>soooo deep
what kinda art are you into, if i may ask?

>> No.3275240

>>3275235
>i don't like what you like
wow, that is soo interesting! i better stop liking it then.

>> No.3275241

The degree of ignorance /ic/, the art criticism board of this website, has towards art never, ever ceases to amaze me.

>> No.3275242

>>3275237
I'm a big fan of sticking cigarettes in badly casted/sculpted orifices. There's something so refreshing in sticking a cig up a butthole.

>> No.3275244

Your fucking dumb ass derivative animeemay bullshit doesn't constitute art, you fucking moron.

>> No.3275250

>>3275242
tell us what kind of art you like
i will bet that i can shit on it as much as you can shit on Sarah Lucas or any other modern artist. the fact that somebody can shit all over the things you enjoy doesn't make it legitimate.

>> No.3275252

>>3275250
Sonic fanart and Rothko

>> No.3275253

>>3275242
>casted/sculpted
you can't even tell how it was made.
i admire your competence! your judgement must be universally true!!

>> No.3275260

>>3275253
whether it's a crappy mold or a crappy sculpt, sticking a cigarette in the butthole really brings it together

>> No.3275261

>>3275252
there there :) too scared to tell!
wouldn't you know?

you're probably as well versed in art as the polish kid, who spent years on an indie game in vain as it turned out a complete failure.

but we'll never know - you are probably too good an artist. /ic/ isn't worthy of hearing what kind of art you really appreciate. it's probably much better, much more honest and way more important art than any of that modern crap, amirite?

>> No.3275263

>>3275260
>i don't like it!! meh meh meh!
i don't give a shit

show me a piece of art that was done in the last ten years that you genuinly admire.

>> No.3275267
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3275267

>>3275263
Butt Sitting In Chair With Cigarette In Butthole by Sarah Lucas

>> No.3275271

>>3275260
you can't even tell the difference between an obvious cast and a sculpture, you bleeding idiot. it's right in front of your face, but as suspected, you have not the slightest idea what the fuck you are looking at and what you are talking about!

>> No.3275272

>>3275267
>I don't even know how that was made, but I talk shit about it!
ngmi

get your popcorn, guys. the /ic/ experts are shitting out another "art was a mistake" thread!

>> No.3275275

>>3275271
>>3275272
autismo is mad because cast/sculpt/crap
herp derp, you don't know the exact process of how it was made, you can't say it's obvious crap! sticking a cigarette in the bum is high art!

>> No.3275276

>>3275275
>child's language
>excuses
welp, i'm done here.

>> No.3275278

>>3275271
Not him but

>someone on the internet being wrong about some truly semantic non-sequitur bullshit means that the piece is actually good! Almost as good as Chris O'Fecalphiliac or George "Penis-Chin" Condo!

Fucking idiot lmao

>> No.3275279

>>3275276
ta-ta, remember to not smoke all your cigarettes because you'll need them to stick up mannequin bums

>> No.3275280

>>3275278
let me guess, the chinese loli cumstain?

>> No.3275288

>>3275267
Obvious cast guys, you can tell because women can't sculpt.

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>>3275031

>it's another idiot tries to shit on contemporary art
>tards in thread fuck up art history 101 terminology
>so much mass ignorance
>holyfuckhowcanthismanypeoplebesostupid
>realize dumb people cannot be fixed and when aging is finally solved we can just let the dumb ones die off
>all my troubles float away

>> No.3276443

>>3275142
Personally i can appreciate some stuff like this because it just looks nice when you hang it up somewhere

It doesn't COMMAND attention like some big classical/renaissance style piece, but it still breaks up the decor a bit by being different. You could hang it up, look at it if you want to, but it's not the absolute central focus of the room.

Mondrian's works also fall into this kind of thing, and it's part of why i like them so much

>> No.3276451

i cant even tell whos trolling and whos not, whos shilling amd whos not. i just eat some snacks and.enjoy the farce. the comments in this thread are far more entertaining. thanks d/ic/ks

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3276454

>>3275267
is this a nude portrait of Assy McGee?

>> No.3276476

>>3276454
Idk, why are you ASSking me?

>> No.3276479

>>3276476
it was a rhetorical question.
I was basically pointing at the coincidence between a sculpted ass with legs and cigarette and a cartoon that aired on Adult Swim.

>> No.3276481

>>3276476
my dumbASS JUST realized what you did there...

>> No.3276674

>>3276451
it's mostly because you can talk shit or praise about anything really. all it takes is a bit of wit to write up something smart.

>> No.3276986

>>3275235
>some hipster with a deformed body and shit tats
>"soooo deep, if you don't like this masterpiece you must be a weeaboo"
so deep! so smart! i bet you know all about art!