/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3242659
It depends on what you want it for. Are you a sculptor/3d artist or a 2d artist? Are you drawing gore where you'll need a more medical understanding or do you just need the basics?

Morpho: Anatomy for Artists
come out in June in english

>>3242659
Anatomy for Sculptors is very complete.

Another thing I really like is the app 3D Anatomy For the Artist by Catfish Studio. It costs 13€ but it's great.

>>3242659
human anatomy for artists by ELIOT GOLDFINGER, seriously, best underrated anatomy book. it's recommended by Hampton in his video lessons.

Meh. I think new artists should start learning anatomy through different means than books For one, i rec getting this app called ArtPose(pic). Its an ecorche 3d model that comes in 60 poses with a moveable camera that was developed by the japs. Also, a lot people know how to place muscle, but not how they move. If you want to know how muscles looked flexed vs unflexed, just watch a bunch of workout vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGo4IYlbE5g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IODxDxX7oi4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTWO2th-RIY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5SKBRXAR1Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0qC1k0Zi6k

But if you really need a book, >>3243121 is the be all end all, and i hear it rec'd a million times. So i dont see how it could be considered underated.

>>3242983
I'm mainly a 2d artist.
Looking for a book that teaches how to draw muscles "from the inside out", as in layering muscles from the bone to the surface.

>>3243567
youre over killing it desu.

but, no book could teach that much in depth detail on muscle to bone volume. You literally need a program like this.

>>3243576

>>3242995
yeah i have this in japanese and it's pretty amazing

you have to get used to the pencil sketches but it's probably the most thorough affordable book of anatomy for artists

Anyone know program for 3D anatomy references? I need 100% correct skeleton with ability to move at least camera and limbs in space. Not mobile bullshit.

>>3243590
Somebody ripped Proko's 3D models and Skelly App sometime ago, but I don't remember where he uploaded them.

>>3243576
Not really.
What I'm looking for is something like what Loomis is doing here. Layering the muscles on the bones piece by piece.

This is the only page where Loomis does that and I can't find any book with a similar approach.

>>3243116
>app
is there something like this on pc?
I'd totaly buy that but my phone can't handle it

>>3243605
youre seriously starting to sound like a try hard faggot. This amount of anatomy studying is like something a 5 year animator does or someone whose drawing zombies.

unironically post your work

>>3243685
>ctrl H

you actually just press H

>>3243605
https://human.biodigital.com/

You have to make a free account to use it but this lets you turn on and off different layers of muscles and shit. Can't pose it but at least you can choose what you are looking at.

>>3243685
Nothing wrong with wanting to know anatomy inside and out bro. Just cause someone is shooting higher than you doesn't make them a tryhard.

I'm in the middle of studying features and construction and want to ask how you guys go about applying proper anatomical features on your subject.

I plan to use landmarks on the spheres and boxes I create to make it easier to remember what goes where but not sure if it's the best possible method for me. Do you guys refer to an anatomy book as you're drawing?

>>3243725
>shooting higher than you
But he has nothing to show for it. All this advance muscles shit he just HAS TO KNOW right now, is something, literally a 4th year japanese student in animation school would learn about. Hes just some retarded /beg/ trying to feel accompolished for having a bunch of muscles knowledge he cant apply. Post your work, and we'll see how good you are at it. Lets see all this anatomy knowledge you have. Lets see you stand for it. Also, ALL THE JAPANESE ANIMATORS AND MANGAKA PRE 2000s. WHAT FUCKING BOOKS DO YOU THINK THEY WERE USING!? They used loomis and eliot scott at most. They didnt need any of this advance 3d model shit to learn the insides and out of the humand body. 3d models are only for speed up the anatomy knowledge.

https://www.instagram.com/go2huprincess/

anyway, heres my insta. if youre art is shittier than mine, then you kys you try hard faggot. oh, and before you try to resort to weeb excuse. here are some ecorche's i did from imagination

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bcbx1f2l211/?taken-by=go2huprincess
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bcbu2YOlS8n/?taken-by=go2huprincess

so if you cant draw like this already, youre a fucking faggot.

>>3243751
No, my art is... definitely not shittier than yours. I can already do much better than that. Not a competition or anything just telling it like it is. Jesus, man. You talk like you're the shit when you're exactly the /beg/ level kind of person you're bitching about. Except possibly worse cause you're getting really butthurt over nothing. What's wrong, daddy didn't hug you enough?

Keep practicing though. Just, like, why attack people for being past the point you're at and wanting to learn more, you know? Sounds like you're jealous.

You're supposed to do ecorche studies from reference, btw, not imagination. I learned the most from doing them in clay, actually. For some reason drawing didn't stick as well as making a skeleton and putting every layer of muscle on with my own two hands.

Props for trying it though, that's pretty ballsy. Doing it from imagination sometimes can help you internalize the information and understand what your shortcomings are. Keep at it, you'll git gud some day but try to keep a level head on your shoulders, yeah? It's unbecoming of you.

>>3243751
cringe

>>3242659
Use real life
Peel back your own skin and draw from observation
When you are done, tape it back

>>3243751
This is why I come to /ic/

>>3243821
Tried this, 2/10 would not recommend. Could not get my skin to stay on, now even picking up a pencil hurts too much to study my own musculature. Life is pain.

>>3242659

Sketchfab, Pinterest, Google Images.

What you want is QUANTITY. There is no single perfect reference. When you want to learn anatomy refer to several pictures and figure out what people are doing. The more you cross-reference, the better your final knowledge-base will become.

>>3243751
Post less and draw more.

>>3243725
>https://human.biodigital.com/
Thanks

>>3243576
>>3243685
>>3243751
>this is the kind of person who is shouting out what to do and what not to do on /ic/
Terrifying

>>3242659
Eliot Goldfinger: Anatomy for Artists
Uldis Zarins: Anatomy for Sculptors
Companioned with Gray's Anatomy
This combo would probably be what you are looking for

>>3243751
>This many people falling for a LARP where an anon impersonates an artist
Reminder not to drop your profile in any /ic/ discord and to stop being a newfag.

>>3242995
Where can I get this? cg doesn't have it and amazon is only selling the German version.

>>3243751
See, when you react like that, this is how everybody sees you.

>>3243751
>has that many likes but isn't even good
How is this possible

>>3243751
Just came to tell you you're kinda bad, anon

You need to learn how faces work, do some studies of your favourite artists and draw them at crazy angles

>>3242668
Are anatomy colouring books actually good for memorization? I was thinking of getting an animal one

>>3243751
I can not believe that this post is real.
This must be some elaborate bait.

>>3244050
Anatomy coloring books are made for medical students, not art students. They're good for memorization but memorization also isn't necessarily what helps an artist most. That's the sort of subject a person could write a very long post about but I'd rather avoid that

Bottom line: You know all the bones in the skull by count and name. What does that help? Drawing skulls, maybe, but the same could be said of just drawing a lot of skulls. You can apply that logic to anything.The most value I find in things like Anatomy for the Sculptor is that it has less to do with what the parts of the body are called and much, much, more so to do with what they do, influence, etc.

>>3242659
Jan Van Rymsdyk, the finest anatomy artist of all time.

>>3244050
The anatomy coloring books are good for artists to learn anatomy.

>>3242659

https://www.zygotebody.com/

>>3245505
the fuck? this gives the hip bone (ox coxa) as so small. i can definitely feel the bone from the very front of my torso against the skin yet this gives it as like 50% submerged into the body from the front.
is this even accurate?
pic related is where i can feel the bone on me at the front.

>>3246647

I have noticed that a lot of 3d based anatomical illustrations are flawed. Refer to classics like Richer instead, and you'll see that your instincts are correct.

>>3246669
even that looks a bit off. the very front of that rounded part i can definitely feel against the skin from the front.

>>3244050
For me, learning the hard way did it because toughness is easy for me to remember.

>>3246671
You can't feel the Iliac crest or Ox Coxa in your abdomen, but below your external obliques.

>>3246671
The rectus abdominus is forward of the anterior superior iliac spine.

>>3246679
>>3246680
but im feeling around the adonis belt area
i'll take your word for it

>>3246684
Don't listen to those dumbasses. You are feeling it on the surface, but look at yourself from profile view while you do so and you'll see how that part of your body simply projects out further if you can't tell just by looking downwards. Also note how you can feel your sacrum clearly but both richer and this site fuck that shit up, too

>>3246703
>don't listen to these dumbasses
>says the same thing

>>3246703
>>3246707
actually hold up
at the addonis belt, a centimetre below the belly button (marked with a faint line here>>3246669)
i can definitely feel that and its right against the skin. why is it depicted as far in on these models?

>>3246714
Because you are a skeleton.

>>3246714
oh fuck it nevermind now i see. the centre part of the belly sticks out a lot more than where that bone is. thats why its depicted as being far in.
everyone else was wrong when they said it was the lower bone though