/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

manga niggers we need to build a wall

>>3233772
reminder that if you draw anime you are a literal subhuman.

>>3233791
>Serious discussion is enforced, leave your feelings and opinions regarding anime to the feels thread

my meds are keeping me afloat between a state of drowsiness and wakefulness

>>3233794
suicide my dude

Drawing porn comic as practice for regular manga. Paneling is fucking hard. I've seen the "Z/S" shape diagrams but actually implementing it is hard.
Is it easier to draw 100% digital, or to pencil and ink on actual paper?

>>3233808
It's easier to just draw the panels and not waste time thinking about mediums.

>>3233808
paneling is super hard specially in porn comics, you have to make it as organized and as attractive as possible.

>>3233808
>I've seen the "Z/S" shape diagrams but actually implementing it is hard.
Whut.

does someone have more like this?

>>3233846

>>3233846
>>3233848
Literally any fucking how to draw anatomy book or even a tutorial but no you insist on looking for this type of shit because it has moon runes and your animu heads as if somehow this is going to help you its like buying those "anime" markers you see for sale to help you draw anime use a goddamn reference study from life - this is it, the absolute state of /ic/

>>3233863
but i want animegirls with mormal anatomy underneath , 99% of the shit you are talking is 3dp that doesn't help to understand how does 2d use 3d anatomy

>>3233863
this

>>3233868
You don't understand because you don't know the rules so how are you going to break the rules before you even know them?

>>3233872
Basically this.

How do you go about merging vector line control points in CSP?

>>3233799
p much

How the fuck am I supposed to learn how to draw loli if looking for references could put me in jail

>>3233953
You don't, you just delete it.

>>3234038
then search for references that would put you in a list instead you dummy

>>3233868
>3dp that doesn't help to understand how does 2d use 3d anatomy
Are you okay, anon?

>>3234038
Speaks for itself, doesn't it

>>3233772
what's the difference between the alt style thread and this one? People post animu stuff on alt threads a lot

>>3234038
copy the shadman way

>>3234038
It's all about proportions.

>>3234038
use 2d references for 2d lolis.

>>3234038
just use google?

What's your method for constructing the head? Do you even have one?

>>3234196
the basic one, with a bit of reilly method applied if the face is more adult looking

Just going to do a brief blogpost that may or may not save some time for anyone newer than I.

My goal, like all of you, is to draw anime. I started out with proko, loomis etc and while I was learning, I just couldn't apply loomis to every ref. /ic/ loves to say "loomis is a template, modify it, retard" but they never show you HOW to modify it. So I dropped it. Proko's mannequinization technique is extremely boring so I dropped that too.

What really helped me was picking up keys to drawing. I've been practicing the first three chapters every day now. (The last 33% of the book is lighting and shit I don't want to get into right now) Now I am actually getting decent at drawing anime heads, butts, etc whatever I choose to focus on. Obviously every second or third sketch looks embarrassingly fucking bad, but. That book has really helped me so far. I'm starting to think the key to drawing anime is learning to purge symbol drawing completely from your brain, practicing "fundamentals" like the various forms of site, measuring, etc, and just practicing over and over until what once required intense study to do a shoddy job, now you can replicate adeptly without reference. At that point I think construction and forms finally become useful. I believe starting out new with construction before anything is not as good. I see a lot of people in /beg/ on month 3 still drawing fairly poorly because they're trying to get more out of loomis than it has to offer. I dunno. Maybe I'm retarded.

>>3233772
What are some beginner guides for blending/painting in PS?

>>3234202
Dodson is better for beginners and I think it's recommended first in the sticky? It works for drawing from reference but for drawing butts or anything from imagination, construction is more effective.

>>3234255
Ctrl paint com.

>>3234038
sometimes your dreams ask for certain sacrifices

How to resize in iPad Pro here’s a thing I did for a guy on /a/ I like this iPad bros

>>3234038
Just look at porn and try to chibify it

Can I get any feedback on this ?
The references are stills from the anime,same exact poses. Just tried to mimick it the best I could.

>>3234328
Loomis

>>3234328
practice repetition

>>3234345
>All that time spent drawing stupid fucking faces
>Don’t feel like ive gotten any better at drawing regular faces
Maybe art just isn’t for me

>>3234175
>/alt/ has a list of regular posters that stirs things up for shitters, and discussion dies down because of that, nowadays it's really, really slow.
>/animestudy/ has random shitters who drops by and dumps insults.
pick your poison.

>>3234038
draw from life ;)

>>3234366
Keep trying anon you'll get there. Look at your construction and where you went wrong and try again

>>3234370
Not even shitters, /alt/ has people ripping on about anyone who posts there. Still my home, though.

>>3234328
I think one major factor for your lack of success in replicating the art is the size you used for your lineart brush, it should be at least half that size or you won't be able to get the details across.

>>3234370
from what I've seen, there's just the same set of drawfags circlejerking each other in every thread, so it gets bretty boring

>>3233772
Are there any guides to paneling?

give it up, americans can't into anime drawing, it's not in your blood, you don't have that eastern touch.

>>3234507
I blame it on the models faces in the west.
Our reference point is fucking terrible to represent 'cute', moe literally does not exist in western culture. It is all 'chic' and 'glam' TERRIBLE

>tfw you are the most badass Western mangaka alive
Can't let /ic/ find out

>>3234509
Post cute girls.

>>3234516
Aaa-aight, we could do that. I was watching a lot of Mimei videos when I drew this. My sketchbook is upstairs atm.

>>3234516
Do they have to be my drawings? I have a few pages that look a little bare. I love these send-ups of kraut chicks.

This one is kind of disturbing. It's like you're someone's drunk step-dad who just happened to saunter into the wrong room at night. ...Not sure if that's what they were going for or not.

>>3234530
>ozapft is
please fucking no

Education is key.

>>3234507
good thing I'm from the land of asia
No matter how animu it looks, you can immediately tell the western artist from the eastern one

>>3234530
looks like generic animu shit tbqh senpai

>>3234038
the irony here

>>3234421
still better than crabs that think making people pissed is enough validation for shitposting. Some of the drawfags actually have advices to make.
t. one of those drawfags

>>3234819
you talking about /alt/ or?

>>3234819
I second this. If you can sift through all the shitstorm, there's actually some solid posts to learn from.

Bros I wanna draw chubby porn for neetbux any good guides?

>>3235125
For?

>>3235125
Unironically reference from life.

>>3233868
>understand how does 2d use 3d
THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT LEARNING ANATOMY, CONSTRUCTION AND PERSPECTIVE IN DRAWING IS, YOU TROGLODYTE

>>3234384
>>3234414
Many thanks !

>>3234328
If you haven't read keys to drawing, read it... and do all the lessons/projects. Then go back to loomis. Keys will improve your observational skills which is much more important for you right now than forms and planes.

>>3234507
>>3234508
>>3234587
The reason Asians are "better" at drawing anime is the same reason they're better at taking tests: it's about cultural values. Eastern cultures value repetition, memorization, and tradition, which is what motivates them to have their drawings fall specifically into the anime style. In the West, even if your goal throughout life is to draw Anime, you will most likely incorporate more and more outside influences as you improve upon your skills, since originality and innovation are more heavily valued there.
Of course, the style doesn't actually matter. The real reason Anime and Manga are as popular as they are is because of quality storytelling combined with a streamlined production and distribution system; the way they draw is just the icing.
If you really want to be successful, stop giving a fuck about falling into a specific style, and just make sure your work carries a good story and is well advertised.
And remember, Asians might be great at tests, but most innovation comes from the West.

>>3234328
If you want a quick fix, my main issue is your line weight. It's boring as shit and jarring to look at. Start using brushes that have pen pressure turned on and practice controlling your line weight(Also if for some god forsaken reason you have a tablet that doesn't have pen pressure support get one). If you're able to master that you'll go a long way to making your stylized art look better cause admittedly, that Megumi is pretty cute but the line weight is killing it.

Once you work on your line weight I'd suggest studying up on color theory, what compliments each other and improving how you color. And don't forget you always can improve your fundies like anatomy, proportions, measuring, shading, etc etc.

>>3234507
>>3234508
I can't explain it well but western artists tend to draw large jew noses when drawing anime and it ruins the whole drawing

>>3234038
You're welcome.

>>>/s/17849835

>>3234588
More or less.

>>3235277
Honestly drawing appealing looking noses is hard as fuck so I see why a lot of anime art just suggests them with a single line or omit it completely.

>>3235288
With enough skill, one can draw a decent nose that isn't a dot or a single line. What I'm talking about in >>3235277 is that, tumblr normalized the large ugly noses and made people think it's cute to give cute characters jew noses.

>>3235224
no need to be salty, anon
both east and west are innovative in their own ways

>>3235392
Noses are disgusting but the human face looks even worse without it.

>>3235398
those hips are ugly

>>3235288
>>3235392
Black Clover mangaka somehow manages to draw an actual nose.

>>3235402
They're OK.

>>3235398
>but the human face looks even worse without it.
It's only cute when chibified or when it's for comedic purposes

>>3235277
Large nose is ok in comic books, but some artists tend to apply the same thing to anime which shouldn't be the case

Noses only seem to get drawn properly on boys.

>>3235447
>>3235392
>>3235277
Stop being retarded fags

>>3235888
I'm talking about this kind of bs

Having a hell of a time getting a decent face drawn for some reason. Her hair also feels over-detailed. Is that just me or should I remove some lines?

>>3235932
holy shit HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAN

>>3235932
make her arms thinner, less manly jaw
and lose the goddamn nose

>>3233868
Cmon man...

>>3235932
Nose is too large, eyes are too high, mouth is too manly. Also arms are too fat and shouldn't overlap the chest like that. The jaw is odd but that's because of the face, make it a bit pointier.

Pose is good enough, I can see what you're trying to convey, keep that pose but re-work the body and face.

>>3235932
Try reducing the nose and mouth and don't put too much detail. The lines for the hair are ok desu but it looks like it's thinning or something since one side has more volume, if you get me. She also looks rather masculine I think because of her neck, shoulders and arms being too wide. Her face could also be less angular too

rip tablet drivers

>>3234038

If I want some feedback on some 'anime' style drawing and I'm a beginner, should I post here or on the beginner thread? Please help I baka autist

>>3236025
Post here, kouhai

>>3236025
You're likely to succeed if you try, kouhai!

Do you actually need loomis for drawing anime girls?

>>3235932
I am not good with words.

I moved the eyes higher on the face relative to the nose.

I added additional volume for the skull to change the head/face proportions.

I redrawn the nose and mouth, and change the line emphasis on the eyes.

I feel like you wanted to simplified the nose but want to keep its shape for some reason, but you end up with a large cartoon nose that doesn't have ala... I am not sure what you are going for. Are there an artist that you wanted to draw like? What are you going for with this character?

>>3236086
lmao

>>3236066
You need to know your fundies to draw anything good, including anime girls.
Loomis is one way to learn fundies, but there are other ways too.

>>3236066
No
You just need to draw

>>3236107
You're not going to make it without Loomis.

>>3236086
Thank you for the redraw! Wasn't particularly going for anything or trying to draw like anyone. I have a habit of heavily referencing the bodies I draw but then completely stylizing the head, face, and hair, which obviously creates a rather ugly contrast.

>>3233772
I tried drawing homura from MadoMagi. I've never really drawn properly before, so it's kind of crap. What should I improve on mainly?

>>3234038
seek treatment and try to stop being a pedophile

>>3236310
"Everything" would be a start.

>>3235286
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so prazis Dei Liachtal aus wie's die Welt no ned gseng hod, host me?
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Ding ausradiert wos Du rührselig Lebn nennst. Du bist aufgschmissn.
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siebnhundad Artn dagragln, und des aloa mit meine Handerln.
I bin ned blos gübt im Wirtshausraffa, sondern i hob a an zugriff
auf des ganze Arsenal von der freiwillign Feiawehr von Olching
und i werd des ois hernemma damit Dei gstingada Hintan vom schena
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>>3236310
How are you so good

Is good for learnings of 3 week? Any tip or book non Japanese language suggest? Difficult to finding

>>3236372
Pretty good. Keep drawing.

>>3236086
nice redraw but this is more of a western style than animu style

>>3236362
stop samefagging

>>3236451
>inb4 phoneposter

>>3236351
Fair enough.

>>3236108
Name one good artist who ever mentioned loomis

>>3236535
Rebeca Sugar (she might be a tumblr dyke with a hideous art style matched only by her haircut but it counts http://www.funnyjunk.com/Dont+cry+for+me+im+already+dead/funny-pictures/5534691/)) and Alex Ross are the only two that specifically come to mind.

>>3235398
>>3235405
Do you have any more of these? Where are they from?

Is this what came out of >>3204936?

>>3236579
No, this is some other guy who believed he could make a serious anime study thread, the other one died because no one else made them.

>>3236582
Think it's worth lurking in case serious/productive discussion actually happens? Or is the chance of that gone after that other thread died?

>>3235277
I've noticed that western artists, mainly capeshit or comic artists in general tend to emphasize every line and rough feature in the face because they aim for realism I guess?

Is anyone going to post their work? This thread is super boring.

>>3236657
I'm on finals. Wait for the weekend

>>3236657
Why don't you post yours?

>>3236579
Hey I'm the OP of that thread

>>3236582 not true

I was hoping of making a serious thread but as soon as I made the 3rd thread I had someone basically telling me to fuck off (although, that could just be the OP of this thread waging a war with me I don't know. Everytime I bring it up he's always ready to bite on me). I waited till the thread fell off the board but decided to wait a little longer.

If people really want a more focused thread I'm willing to dedicate time to constructing one but interest is so-so. So no, the idea isn't dead but I'm just waiting it out.

>>3236693
I'm down for that.

I got tired of boobs so I drew this boy

>>3236734
Technically boys can have boobs too.

>>3236746
We get it, you're a land whale.

>>3236753
Rude.

>>3236734
Stop giving fur on your boy

>>3236734
literally gay

>>3236693
Op of this thread here.
Wasn't me that said that, I haven't visited that thread in a while.
I just wanted to make a thread where people studied anime and I could give serious advice whenever I could, no "animu is shiet" or "just fucking quit" from me.

I know it's arrogant, I just wanted more honest help for /ic/ anime artists out there.

And the first thread was very fun, so I made this one.
I'm in the process of making a comic manga-style and I'm not a pro at it, but there are artists here that have problems I can help based on what I learned.

Also dude, if you meant my response to your post:

>>3209921

>>3209923

It was true for one of the threads I read, you did correct me with:

>>3209927

>>3236895
>Also dude, if you meant my response to your post:


Those are not my posts, bro. I'm talking about >>/ic/thread/S3224296

>>3236901
wait this >>3209927 → is mine but the others aren't

>>3236910
Nope that wasn't me, only thread I check is this one for critique requests.

>>3236640
Yeah asian art is geared more towards abstract cuteness, western comic book artists look for some realism in terms of face structure.

Who are some non-japanese anime artists that are indistinguishable from japanese? I can only think of the guy who illustrated this Alice in Wonderland book (Kriss Sison).

>>3236310
seeing drawings like these are quite refreshing from the mediocore tumbler style shit most frequently seen. Keep drawing and maybe you'll get somewhere.

>>3236947
I have that book. I liked his art

>>3236947
i'm more interested in the opposite

>>3235241
>>3235213
Thanks Anons
Great help. I’m using an IPad Pro and I’ve been trying to take art more seriously

>>3235932
here's my try

>>3236947
Seeing that alice is what inspired to once again pursue my dream after seeing it was possible.

>>3236947
Isn't he a phlip? He's a pseudo asian.

>>3236947
Ge-b
weee_desu

>>3237312
>>3237318
Flips can draw anime just as good as the Japanese, they have outsourced studios there remember?

>>3237326
Yeah but the idea is that non asian artists can do anime. Looks like it's still not true

>>3237327
So Bahi? White animators are a thing too but they don't have social media accounts.

>>3237326
>>3237327
>>3237333

What if I'm a bean?

>>3237340
There's no hope. Even whites can get it just by naturally being smarter

>>3237340
Beans drew anime all the time just like blacks. Dragon ball? Naruto? Bleach?

>>3237343
And none of them got good.

>>3237333
Bahi isn't white. He's a moorish mud man

>>3237340
There's hope. If a British black guy and his team which included a literal african tar baby from the darkest jungles of that most mysterious continent can do something fun like this there's always hope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmkAcGz1BJk

There's also LeSean Thomas etc.

didn't really study anything here, was just a doodle from class i made digital

>>3235932
Is this a dude or a chick? Serious question, I want to know so I can give my try.

>>3237459
Read anons post again

>>3237394
Cute, though her right eye looks weird touching the face's outer line like that.

>>3237560
Ohh you're right, I didn't notice. Makes it look kinda buggy. I'll fix that, thanks for pointing it out.

>>3236947

>>3236947

>>3236947

>>3233772
so i want to try. does the face look anime to you guys. i keep trying to draw a anime face but the eyes always fuck with me. i don't know which eye type i should stick with

>>3237842
Nice, very good.

>>3236947
Isn't shindol from US?

>>3236947
Mike Inel
Steve Ahn

They're not japanese but still asians. Can't think of a western artist who can properly emulate anime style

>>3237846
thanks. happy to hear i wasn't wasting my time drawing that. going to take your comment as yes it is anime

>>3237864
He's japanese that has lived in the US. Probably why he has such an obsession with whores.

>>3233772
Please critique my sketches, I want to get better.

>>3235402
anon is a fagot, more news at 11

Would anybody happen to have this book?

>>3237951

nice, what book is that?

>>3237346
What about LeSean Thomas : >>3237693 ?

>>3237938
>I want to get better
>draws anime

>>3236947

>>3238057
tsulala is god-tier in linework

>>3237938
You should first study regular faces and see how to fit every part of the face into the head, your proportions are way off.

I've heard that you should change your line art to brown once you've begun to color, why was that? And how do you do that?

>>3238368
You generally see people do this with their sketch layer when they begin to ink. It's so that the eye doesn't get confused with the under drawing and is better focused on the final rendering. I assume the same concept applies to coloring.

/3/ here
I want to make 2D images from 3D models, so what makes an image 2D?
What I heard was the shadow placement was different in 2D as 3D is more realistic. But I don't know anything else

pic related is my attempt.

Is the kamvas GT 191 a good tablet

>>3238461
pee pee poo poo

so if i already read vilppu and loomis, what's next if i actually want to learn how to draw uguu anime faces

>>3238564
Actually drawing

>>3238565
Anon please, I meant if there are any books actually focused on stylization.

>>3238001
I believe it's in the filename. I could be wrong, since I just saved it from /a/, but I remember running it through a search and a few books came up, so who knows

>>3233772
this image looks like shit, nigga has a code lyoko forehead, the difference in the eye colors look more unfinished rather than crazy and it looks like it comes from some dgenerate hentai

>>3239049
Not a critique

>>3236947
Matseuz
http://mattjabbar.tumblr.com

>>3237873
I thought he was one of those Brazilian-Japanese and moved to US after

>>3236947
hes a flip but a lot of asian people can do anime or close to anime style, i wonder why western artists struggle with it

>>3237938
one thing, eye spacing. Try to separate them more and note the proportions.

>>3239330
>i wonder why western artists struggle with it
It has to do something with eastern culture

>>3239337
It goes back to old japanese paintings, their styles are very distinct.
Osamu Tezuka tried drawing with a western style and came up with astro boy's art style.

>>3233791
I remember it was cool to hate Chinese cartoons back in like 2003

Now no one gives a single fuck except manchildren

>>3233846
>>3233848
You can find exact same stuff like this in any anatomy book.

>>3239536
Does it mean anime = manga head on normal human body?

>>3236955

>>3239581
most manga abd anime characters have semi anatomically correct bodies but deformed heads

>>3237938
use references, do you have a favorite artist?
Try to copy his art.

>>3239737
Tell me anon what do you like about this artist

>>3239051
the face proportions are incorrect, the eyes arent in the middle of the face, the mouth is slightly crooked, hair doesnt have a beggining and the hairline that is in the drawing is receeded as fuck, the simplification of the hair makes it look like the knuckles the echidna,

I think I'm pretty decent at direct copying 2D references and such, but once I try to draw something original I feel extremely crippled.

Any way to bridge the gap between my referenced and original stuff other than the vague advice of "fundamentals"?

>>3240013
Draw a lot

there are plenty of westerners that draw anime shit successfully i don't get why people think it's impossible. Anime shit isn't some monolithic style and there's no "wrong or right" way to do it unless all you guys are implying by "anime" is moe shit
pic related by jasmine goggins.

>>3240239
great she drew a 1 inbetween frame that could be in an anime maybe if she practices she could draw some highschooler tier manga art too

How the fuck do I draw like this?
It seems completly unreachable on a technical level

>>3240262
She's an actual professional that's worked overseas in animation unlike 99% of people on this shit board that dedicates an entire thread to figuring out how to simple anime face

>>3239989
Op here
Well it's an edit, I rebuilt a drawing from one of the manga's panels, edited it to give the pose a different angle and added the new face on top, then redrew the whole thing.

>>3240270
That's just screen tones and ink.

>>3240478
But how does he do the shading?
Does he finish shading the image and then puts the screentone on top or does he draw on top of the tone?

>>3240013
Experiment a lot without references, try to draw from nothing, erase as much as you need until you feel satisfied, next day check the drawing and youll instantly see that is full of flaws, see a reference picture and try to see what you did wrong and start drawing from nothing again and youll start to get some parts right, repeat this a lot.

>>3240491
Well drawing on top of the screentone should be more difficult, the tone is a stick-on thing you apply on top of everything (and then scratch off if needed).
Different textures and gradient screentones exist too, if you're wondering how it's not just dots.
They could have shaded it then applied the tone.

>>3237842
Wont work if you do a cartoonized anime style

>>3240525
Also to add to anon's reply, try sometimes to draw solely with a pen, you'll need it to bring up your confidence in drawing from scratch.

>>3240270
>>3240491
Watch manben or even any JumpRyu!.
I'll even link you one I like.
https://youtu.be/TKcwYDQwGcM
Featuring Yabuki-sensei.

>>3240531
what do you mean mind my asking?

>>3240536
Toning begins at 21:00 by the way.

>>3240538
The jaw and chin have lines too straight almost having the shape of a square similar to cartoons, you get well the shapes of the eyes and everything else but try to make it with more realistic proportions while maintaining the anime style touches, your drawing is closer to a chibi style rather than the average anime body, to get nitpicky id say that the neck is a little long and the ears are more tumblr-ish than the stylized anime ones

>>3240542
>>3240536
Appreciate it, I will watch it and try to steal some of his technique

>>3240306
her works looks meh desu just like the most of em

>>3239049
>nigga has a code lyoko forehead
lmaooo

I started with Loomis/Vilppu like /ic/ told me to, I looked up tutorials for anime faces that weren't total shit, I tried to imitate the work of some artists I like, but I still can't get it, and I don't know what is it that I'm doing wrong (construction wise, I know hair and line confidence are shit).

If I'm copying from a drawn reference, I feel like I do a better job. Still, I always have trouble locating the facial features since sometimes it feels like they have arbitrary spacing and sizes, so my real life measurements don't help at all. Also I always fuck up the way the jaw connects with the ear/head, and the jaw itself tends to be too short, the entire face gets squashed.

And trying to draw from imagination (or from a photo reference) is a pain in the ass. Not only is the construction all fucked up, also the faces are simply not appealing at all. They don't even look generic, they just look bad from a design standpoint. I guess that what I'm trying to say is that I don't have a style and I don't know how to make one, or to how just shit out a cutesy anime face.

The faces with the red arrows are characters of my own making. I aim to go for that Prison School/Tokyo Ghoul/Gantz look.

TL;DR what am i doing wrong

>>3240615
you don't use the parameters of loomis to draw animu cus they are totally different , you use loomis as a tool to make your own parameters to draw your own animu style

>>3240671
But my own measurements feel and look all fucked up.
Am I supposed to just mess around until I hit a comfortable spot?
Does this also apply with how to draw eyes and noses?

>>3240682
>But my own measurements feel and look all fucked up.
this is usually a bad indicator of not knowing your fundies hopefully im wrong, because if you knew how to draw all the features in the face/body in any angle stylizyng shouldn't be so difficult

>Am I supposed to just mess around until I hit a comfortable spot?

for the moment just copy from any artist/anime of your choice

>>3240700
What I'm trying to say is, if I already understand how a normal human head would look, how do I go about stylizing it? Maybe it's just that I have no idea how to design anime eyes, because the head itself I can manage, but the facial features get all fucked up if I don't follow Loomis or if I do..

>>3233846
>>3233848
>>3235398
>>3235405
>>3237951
>>3238221
>>3240711

I don't see the point in studying "anime anatomy". It just seems like studying anatomy with extra steps. Like why? Why not just study real anatomy then simplify it?


Anime anatomy isn't hard, it's literally just "Smooth Mesh" on realism.

Wouldn't the more useful thing to focus on be the theory behind the proportion choices or like maybe discussion of design choices for the various styles of eyes?

>>3240822
this
It's not rocket science to understand how anime body works. It's just an exaggerated anatomy

how are my mangas looking

>>3240829
How to get as good as you

Gonna be puttin colors on this one.
Whaddya guys think about this?

>>3240831
FUN DEMENTORS

>>3240984
Everything is really great except for that awful fucking face.

>>3236734
Stop trying to hide the hands in your drawings. Just practice drawing hands.

>>3240615
>>3240682
>>3240711
I think you're thinking about it too much. Just draw and adjust things till they look pleasing. Trying to measure everything won't get the best results. Even real life looks odd at certain angles.
Your drawings look like you just need more practice

>>3240829
Hella cute, post more

>>3240984
Looks better in general than the last one
Her left leg looks like it was attached wrong, though

>>3240984
broken knee , face is fucked up specially the eyes

>>3241081
knees can bend like that. its only broken if its facing the completely wrong way

>>3241088
>knees can bend like that

>>3241081
Could you point out what is "unlikeable" about her face? I honestly dont have anything against her face despite being a little generic

>>3241081
>>3241088
>>3241107
Well technically the knee can bend that way.
The problem is that the thigh can't twist that way without damaging your hip joint.

>>3241107
>>3241126
a leg can be positioned that way but the rest of the anatomy is off for that to be doable. Her hip would need to be pushed out and twisted.

>this thread is more popular than /alt/ atm

>>3241163
how about the face

>>3233772
I drawn a manga today. It's called magical girl lolipop-chan. It suckz

>>3239049
It's an edit. The character is Takagi from Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san but the face is Nagatoro from Ijiranaide, Nagatoro-san.
They're both series about a girl relentlessly teasing a boy where the only logical conclusion is an eventual hate-rape.

>>3241183
It looks like it was copied from somewhere else and attached to the body by somebody who aren't that good at anatomy. In the original with the way her face is turning her neck should be a different place.

Will I ever be able to draw like those nips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfidZenomQ4

>>3241348
Your redlines aren't very helpful

>>3241372
Only if you believe, anon-kun.

>>3241437
They would likely be to some but it's not like they were made for you specifically. The red part was described further up anyway so it should be pretty obvious what it's about I would think.

>>3241444
You may have described it, but it's still hard to identify what it is you're trying to show on the picture. Try to be clearer, dude

>>3241456
Sounds like you are just bitching for the sake of bitching then.

>>3241462
If you can't or won't give proper help then don't do it at all. It'll just cause confusion

>>3241465
If you really wanted more help you wouldn't have acted aggressively spiteful about it in the first place.

>>3237279
I love it. Cute as fuck. How did nobody else reply yet?

Just been copying pictures from /a/ as a way to try to draw more. Do I just continue or is there a better way for me to practice?

>>3241488
someone once said, its either a case of too bad or to good to reply to .

it is cute though.

>>3241488
I was going to, but there was no point in saying that I like it.

>>3240557
thanks for the tip. going to see if i can fix it somehow but knowing me it may just revert cause im lazy.

>inb4 bulge
its my sweater

>>3241590
unironically loomis

>>3241592
learning too but its boring

>>3241602
keep practicing it even if its boring you need it. Also you need to learn how visual measuring and proportion work if you ever want to come close to being good.

>>3241612
good at anime or realistic?
didn't know the drawing i did was that bad lol

>>3241590
More like what the fuck is going on with your pencil tip? Did you sharpen it with your teeth?

quick question for /ic/

i keep changing my artstyle without even wanting to but i can't really control it. how do i keep it like it is right now.

>>3241602
i mean your fundies that body is too blocky and those tits look like they are made of cement , you need a better understanding of the anatomy to stylize

>>3241619
>good at anime or realistic?
At anything. Not trying to bring you down you just really need to get through your fundamentals, man. Otherwise going through loomis is even going to be difficult.

>>3241628
o. but what about the face?

>>3241621
knife. a big fucking knife because i am to lazy to find my Pencil sharpener.

>>3241631
i don't really mind the criticism, i somewhat like it if you don't believe it but holy shit is fun with pencil boring and i don't really know were to go to after that book. any advice on that?.............that is sticky dear god

>>3241634
>what about the face?

that face is okay for a 2 min shitty sketch drawing but as a final work assuming you were aiming for something like>>3239737>>3236947 kind of style is pretty bad , eyes are not even ,one has a bigger iris , these lines in the bottom of the eye are different one is almost straight and the other is curved , that hair is really shit doesn't project form or a 3d sense of deep but all of it may be just your style imo i don't find it appealing just like some DA-tier drawing

>>3236372
Its good but

What

>>3242226
Post your work

>>3236372
Are you BR?

I'm starting to think most anime doesn't give a shit about perspective or form and it's all just symbol drawing with a lot of repetition to get something appealing. Am I wrong.

>>3242627
Yes

I'm trying to go from a 3d reference to draw a 2d anime girl but I want to make her boobs bigger. Are there any suggestions you guys have as far as keeping the anatomy somewhat in check?

>>3242627
No

>>3242637
Don't draw bad tits is all there is to it

the only way to avoid chicken scratching in paper is literally to get it in your first try?

>>3242637
lear how boobs work

>>3242643
Just chicken scratch then trace over it

>>3242650
almost imposible if im using hb leads and these are the only thing i have , and print paper is a bit too thiccc for that

>draw sketch
>it doesn't look so bad
>line it and erase some lines
>now it looks flat, static and lifeless
Why?

>>3242658
Lineweight? No indication of volume eg, Shadows or cross hatching?

>>3242643
More like you avoid it by knowing what lines you want and not going over them
Just erase

>>3242643
Use an eraser

>>3242644
appreciate you :)

>>3242689
np

c'mon girls, I want to see your anime drawings!

>>3235241
Nice.
Some great tips.

>>3242683
>More like you avoid it by knowing what lines you want and not going over them

so literally just grind more my fundies until i can draw with less mistakes amirite?, and erasing is kinda hard ,im used to draw really small

being begtier is suffering

>>3242695
here faggot

>>3242701
lmao

>>3242704
kek, no. Grinding is largely a meme my friend. What you need to do is draw more and eventually you'll just know. Grinding is like trying to prepare to prepare in terms of how /ic/ explains it. Cute stuff, keep at it.

new thread when

>>3242712
When it reaches bump limit.

drawing is hard

Someone write up a step by step program for me to follow to get better at drawing.

>tfw no drawfriend to grind together

>>3242717
Step 1: Draw
Step 2: Repeat step 1 until better at drawing.

>>3242719
Draw what?

>>3242718
>grinding together
L-lewd

>>3242719
>Step 1: Draw

This is the part I hate the most, why is learning to draw so fucking vague

>>3242721

>>3242718
I'll be your drawfriend
No games

>>3242726
???

>>3242718
Depends on what your interests are, I might be game.

>>3242729

new bread fucking when

>>3242734

>>3242735
We're still on page 1, chill

Can I learn to draw on my note 8 or will I get carpal tunnel

>>3242743
Why not just draw on paper

>>3242743
i had a note 8 too , and dont you will get 1000% better on paper or with a proper tablet for drawing i wasted 6 months with that crap and i got far better with paper/pencil

Why do you want to draw anime, post you reasons so we can all laugh together.

>>3242803
Because drawing cute girls is fun

>>3242803
i got into for my wifu but now i just draw for fun

>>3242803
Lost interest in video games and need a hobby. I might just have depression or something

>>3242806
Who/what have you drawn lately?

>>3242808
Got any works of your wifu?

>>3242803
I wanted to draw porn from my imagination

>>3242803
Wanted to draw my waif. I only draw her.
Also, people said that learning to draw can help with /3/ modelling.

>>3242803
so i can draw my waifu.

>>3242747
>>3242743
how's note 8?
I'll be getting mine at the end of the year for a nice discount. Does it do well with simple doodles?

>>3242803
I draw to relieve myself from office stress

>>3242803
Because I have been keeping this story in my head for around 6+ years and I want to draw for it in animu style

>tfw just started to draw digitally for a year
>tfw a really long way to go

Pls do happen my dream ;-;

>>3243299
not manga

>>3242803
money

>>3243332
How bout now lol

so this it

How.

can someone make a new thread or should i do it ?

>>3243630
Do it

>>3243613
Anatomy, baby :D

newbread >>3243643

>>3243413
not really
post it in /alt/ instead

You faggots keep making new threads to early,
Why can't you just wait for it to fall into the archive first? It's not like /ic/ is even fast

>>3244422
shit new thread got shoa'd ? meanwhile beg and post your work get new threads as soon as they hit 300 really makes gets noggin joggin

*makes you think

What happened to the thread

>>3244685
go here >>3244706

>>3244708
Hey, you're not anime study op.

>>3244714
sorry, should I just delete the thread?

>>3244685
Page 9 first just like how /las/ does it despite being around for nearly two years

>>3244714
Anime study op here.
s t a y
w i t h
m e

>>3244885
What have you been studying?

>>3244943

I recently joined a one-week comic book workshop and let me tell you, drawing is super easier when you have other artists around.
We've been drawing a group comic, everyone draws a specific character in each page.
Some tips I got from it:

-write down any ideas in sticky notes, you might wanna recicle any old ideas you had for your newer stories.

-do thumbnails in A6, storyboards in A4, draw in A3 so you can later print in A5 (scanning it is gonna be a bitch).

-get one of those blue sketching pencils. Not color pencils, get the good stuff that erases easily so you can ink over it.

-Printing 100 comics at a place like Staples might cost more than getting a good printer and printing it yourself (prices may vary, I'm from Europe so it might cost more at your place).

-Plan the pages for the printing. For example, if you have 8 pages then you print it like this

>Paper 1
Front of paper: 2 | 7
Back of paper: 1 | 8

>paper 2
Front: 4 | 5
Back: 3 | 6

- dust-free erasers are a lie, get a kneaded eraser.

>>3234038
Seek help from the artist Rustle

>>3244885
New thread next week it is then?

>>3245566
Calm your mamary calamities dude, last thread was huge compared to this.