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So i finally got to watch the Kim Jung Gi interview and he says that one thing that helps him remember his giant visual library, is learning and understanding how the items work.

Are the any good programs or books about this? Im thinking shows like "how its made". But it seems like its focused a bit too much on the process and not the parts themselves.

>> No.3228228

>>3228220
Way to over think the message, OP.

>> No.3228230

>>3228228
is it tho? Seems pretty reasonable. So why not spend an hour or too a day learning about stuff.

>> No.3228231

>>3228220
I guess that makes sense. That's literally how people become good at drawing people is by learning "how it's made" - the bones and muscles.

>> No.3228233

>>3228230
That's not what I was implying. Understanding the functions of how objects or people work is key to memorizing. You're asking for sources or practices on methods that don't exists for what you're thinking about.

If you truly want to get a grasp of how items work, learn animation.

>> No.3228234

>>3228220

>"Tell me again why I should suck your dick?"
>"To increase my visual library, babe"

>> No.3228237

>>3228233
oh ok. well im not only thinking about anatomy. Just stuff in general, from electronic parts to vehicles and so on.

>> No.3228241

>>3228237
>oh ok. well im not only thinking about anatomy. Just stuff in general

Holy fuck, anon. I hate your reading reading comprehension you illiterate fuck.
Here's an example of how you'd memorize drawing a car; what causes the car to move? The wheels. The car itself cannot move without the wheels. So next time you see a car driving, think about HOW it's moving. The idea is THAT simple as to what Kim Jung is implying. The difficulty comes into putting that to practice. You don't have to read an entire fuckin' book about this.

>> No.3228246

>>3228241
well idk if i agree. To me it sounded like he actually meant understanding the individual parts/bones/whatever and not just the overall motion.

>> No.3228251

>>3228246
>To me

Yes. Like I said, you're over thinking it. Please refer to this post >>3228228
Continue to over think it, you won't get anywhere. You'll learn info that won't even apply to drawings then ask yourself a year later "why am I learning so much about X" creating a topic with an image of a crying girl from some random gay ass anime.

>> No.3228254

>>3228251
i guess. better get to the drawing then

>> No.3228271
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3228271

>>3228241
>DURR WHEEL?
>implying retarded 4 year old logic will let youdraw anything of value

your gross oversimplification is making me have an aneurysm. Fuck you

OP look at diagrams of shit you want to draw well. If you want a vehicle to have an an engine than look at a diagram of an engine. google what the parts do, how it works etc.

99% of the time form follows function. know what something does and you know how to draw it.

figuring shit out is not easy. you have to take things on a case-by-case basis.
That's why drawing fundamentals are so vague. That's why gi draws the same subject matters a lot. Sure you can use primitives to draw anything, but there's a reason people specialize.
Most of your time will be spent mastering the subject matter and not the fundamentals.

When process and method are discussed, they tend to be used interchangeably. However, while they are two sides to the same coin, they are different. Process is a naturally occurring or designed sequence of operations or events over time which produce desired outcomes. Process contains a series of actions, events, mechanisms, or steps, which contain methods. Method is a way of doing something, especially a systematic way through an orderly arrangement of specific techniques. Each method has a process.

From a pragmatic standpoint, design methods are concerned with the “how” and defining “when” things happen, and in what desired order. Design Methods are challenging to implement since there are not enough agreed-upon tools, techniques and language for consistent knowledge transfer. While there are many conceptual models and frameworks, there needs to be more granularity of tools and techniques. There are also many variables that affect outcomes since logic and intuition interplay with one another. Two people can therefore use the same method and arrive at different outcomes.

>> No.3228284

>>3228220
>understanding how the items work.
Build lots of models, gundams, lego technics, ikea furniture, gardening, house work, decorating cakes, etc. anything that exercises spatial reasoning and geometric constraints.

This does not include things like playing video game, playing board games, improving your APM, watching videos, writing, playing music, exercising...

>> No.3228296

>>3228271
It's literally the same object

If you feel the need to make everything over complicated you're gonna stumble overyouself someday because even you can't understand complicated things as intuitively as simple things

>> No.3228338
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3228338

kim draws smut

>> No.3228346

>>3228338
his name is Gi

>> No.3228394

>>3228338
>he doesn't know
let me light you: he draws furry and guro too

>> No.3228396

>>3228338
He's published an entire sketchbook filled with nothing but smut, Omphalos I think it's called. The man loves drawing lewd shit, I wouldn't be surprised if that's what he drew in most of his private time.

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3228406

>>3228394
>>3228396
are there any pure pro artist left in this world?

>> No.3228408

>>3228396
>he doesn't know eighter
let me light you: ''I masturbate a lot''

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3228438

>>3228220

Jeez, OP. You really stumbled onto something big here. Are you telling me that he actually STUDIED his subjects and then drew them? Hard to believe.

>> No.3228487

>>3228438
Well the thing is everyone who browses /ic/ daily usually are the types of people who spend more time trying to be spoon fed and collect knowledge rather than actually drawing and practicing said knowledge.

>> No.3228519

>>3228220
I knew KJG drew porn but never looked into it too much. Seeing this though is changing my mind about not checking it out, I actually kinda like it...

>> No.3228879

>>3228234
but you would learn more from sucking your own dick.

>> No.3228881

>>3228519
check out omphalos.

>> No.3228909

>>3228438
very hilarious, except you didnt even read the post. and a gif from 2007. cant wait to see your work.

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3228933

>>3228406
>left in this world?
What makes you thing there ever were any?

>> No.3228939

>>3228406
to draw anything and everything is the purest of them all.

>> No.3229086

>>3228939
anything includes furry porn. so no.

>> No.3229294
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3229294

>>3228220
BRAAAAAAAP

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3229331

>>3229086

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVp-zIONsrs

I want to be the very best
Like no one ever was
To learn them is my real test
To draw them is my cause
I will travel across the land
Searching far and wide
Teach /ic/ to understand
The power that's inside
/ic/! Gotta learn 'em all
It's pen and paper
I know it's my destiny
/ic/! Oh, you're my best friend
In a world we must teach
/ic/! Gotta learn 'em all
A line so true
Our composition will pull us through
You teach me, and I'll teach you
/ic/!
Gotta learn 'em all, gotta learn 'em all

Yeah
Every challenge along the way
With brushpen I will face
I will draw every day
To claim my rightful place
Come with me, the time is right
There's no better composition
Pen in hand, we'll finish the wip
It's always been our dream
/ic! Gotta learn 'em all
It's pen and paper
I know it's my destiny
/ic! Oh, you're my best friend
In a world we must teach
/ic! Gotta learn 'em all
A line so true
Our compostion will pull us through
You teach me, and I'll teach you
/ic!

Gotta learn 'em all, gotta learn 'em all
Gotta learn 'em all
Gotta learn 'em all
Gotta learn 'em all
Yeah
/ic/! Gotta learn 'em all
It's pen and paper
I know it's my destiny
/ic/! Oh, you're my best friend
In a world we must teach
/ic/! Gotta learn 'em all
A line so true
Our composition will pull us through
You teach me, and I'll teach you
/ic/!
Gotta learn 'em all, gotta learn 'em all
/ic/!

>> No.3229345

>>3229331
I wanna be the very best
Like no one ever was
To draw forms is my real test
To feel them is my cause

I will travel across the land
Searching far and wide
Find new poses to understand
The gesture that's inside

Gesture Draw! Gotta feel 'em all!
Just vilppu and me
My spark and my ligameme
Gesture Draw! Oh I'm under 25
Neuroplasticity still alive
Gesture Draw! Gotta feel 'em all!
Line of action so true
Michael Hampton will pull us through

You feel me and I'll feel you
Gesture Draw!
Gotta feel 'em all!
Gotta feel 'em all!
Yeeaah

Every model along the way
With Loomis I will face
Gesture battles every day
I'll make it with style and grace

Draw all day, Feng Zhu will show
There's no better time
Arms and legs - we'll feel the flow
My pose will be sublime

Gesture Draw! Gotta feel 'em all!
Just vilppu and me
My spark and my ligameme
Gesture Draw! Oh I'm under 25
Neuroplasticity still alive
Gesture Draw! Gotta feel 'em all!
Line of action so true
Michael Hampton will pull us through

You feel me and I'll feel you
Gesture Draw!
(Gotta feel 'em all!) x5
Yeeaah

*epic guitar solo*

Gesture Draw! Gotta feel 'em all!
Just vilppu and me
My spark and my ligameme
Gesture Draw! Oh I'm under 25
Neuroplasticity still alive
Gesture Draw! Gotta feel 'em all!
Line of action so true
Michael Hampton will pull us through

You feel me and I'll feel you
Gesture Draw!
Gotta feel 'em all!
Gotta feel 'em all!
Gesture Draw!

>> No.3229348

>>3229331
>>3229345
upvoted

>> No.3229379

>>3229331
>>3229345
No wonder you cant draw holy fuck

>> No.3229418
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3229418

>>3229345
I don't care if it's ironic. You should be ashamed.

>> No.3231250

>>3229418
Think Anon: where was it? What was the decision that led you down the path of becoming a joyless pussy? Where did it all go wrong?

>> No.3231256
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3231256

>>3229345
>>3229331
top kek what the actual fuck

lmao

>> No.3231304

>>3228933
Artist are literally the best thing in the world, they've been here since the begging and even now >>3229294 they provide us with things we could only imagine but always needed