/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

That's the point, imagination is infinite which is why people want to try and conquer it despite it being impossible.

It literally isn't.

>find a simplified form that you like and looks convincing enough
>use that for all knees you draw

>>3218656

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN94kc7VHns

Shit, I think I know a tutorial for everything. Don't need to remember how to do anything if you got dem tootorialz XDDDddfdsfdsfsfasdf

>>3218729
this guy cant render to save his life, and those shitty animations at the end are hilariously done

>>3218734

Are you sure? I've never really seen him try... Anyways I think the point here was to be able to "paint from imagination" so rendering wouldn't really be an issue if you know how skin works.

I'm pretty jealous of the guy... I love to render everything but I'm a shit artist otherwise...

>>3218739
Teach me the power of rendering.

>>3218656
Armpits are worse

>>3218740

I dunno. Just get Brad Rigney's "A hostile takeover"- tutorial and Dave Rapoza's orc thing. I'm not really a "good" renderer myself but I like doing it...

pic is some shit I'm working on now. (Biker mice stuff 4 teh lulz). This is like 10% of the piece and I hate how it's looking.

>>3218747

Wow, that's fantastic, honestly. Are you an industry professional?

>>3218751

Thanks! Nahh, fuck-no. Not yet. Wish I was...

>>3218747
Looks good, dude. All I can say is careful with losing focal points when you go into the render-frenzy, it'd serve you well to make some edges more sharp there in the light.

>>3218656
patella and both epicondyles + muscle and skin. what's so difficult?

>>3218747
>>3218760

>>3218760

Good points man! Didn't mean to highjack this thread or anything. I always fuck my pieces by rendering everything. It's just that the other character in the scene was partially created in ZBrush so I think I have to put extra detail on my 2D work for the other character... I haven't worked like this before so I don't really know what I'm doing. Everythin is still highly unfinished...

Top part of the image.

>>3218747
the way you use different fur textures for each part of his face is pretty impressive

>>3218656
>a mush that has no gesture and can only move two ways is more difficult than drawing feet
Admit it anon, you just haven't taken the time to sit down and study those forms properly.

>>3218747
Damn

>>3218772

Thanks man. It's relatively easy if you have a bunch of good brushes... I made this just now. I'm a bit drunk so I'm sorry for the amazing quality.

>>3218747
unironically good enough to make loading screens for games companies

>>3218755
Don't sell yourself short. At the very least you're good enough to get your foot in the door.

>>3218830

That's unironically the best compliment I've ever got from /ic/. I'd love to make some loading screens.

>>3218656

>>3218837
loomis is good for figure drawing, but not so much in depth anatomy that will actually make you understand these things. so for a beginner, this isn't helpful.

>>3218863
>loomis is good for figure drawing
this meme is hilarious

>>3218888
post work

>>3218888
Thne explain how I went pro and immediately got a job as a storyboard artist after 4 years of loomis.

Also nice quads faggot.

>>3218907
>after 4 years of loomis
it took you 4 years to read 5 books?

>>3218921
4 years of constantly studying, applying and relearning loomis' methods you dingus. Obviously you won't git gud if you only go through it once.

>>3218899
People who defend Hampton's drawing abilities are fucking idiots. Can they not see how disproportional his shit is? Jesus. Also, his "book" is literally a compilation of notes taken from Steve Huston and Glenn Vilppu's lectures.

>>3218928
Hampton's actually pretty good but that's what gets me; he just beat Steve Huston to the publisher's office. That said, good information is good information and he compartmentalizes it well-but the fact the guy can only draw one identical goofy looking face is definitely something to consider when he gets to the point in the book where he's explaining the head.

>>3218926
so just 4 years of drawing then

>>3218934
I was being pretty harsh on Hampton but other than learning about structure, a lot of people will fall into the trap of just blindly copying him when there's better options available. The information is good, his drawings (the figures, not the structural diagrams) are not.

Take Hogarth for example, amazing information, really good for understanding structure, but I'd stay away from copying his bubble men.

>>3218960
So, what should people do?

>>3218962
Analytical figure drawing is about breaking down and simplifying the complex as fuck human body. For example, imagining the torso and pelvis as boxes helps you understand how it tilts and leans without having to delve into muscles, this is good information but I'd stay away from copying his finished figures unless you actually want to draw like Hampton.

>>3218962
>>3218975
I should add: study Hampton's diagrams and absorb the information he presents but don't copy his finished drawings.

>>3218747
>this guy doesn’t think he’s good
>/beg/ rejects keep running their mouth about artists light years beyond them
The Dunning-Kruger is real.

>>3218742
its just the pecs, arm muscles and the shoulder+ the back muscles that create the shape of the armpit

>>3218656
I love drawing knees because if you just keep the few key forms there you can literally just wing everything else and it'll look good. In fact, the more you just fucking mess around the better. It's relaxing when you can just lean back and turn your brain off for a while.

>>3218656
the easiest method is to either be john the ripper and study them inside out or be like the old masters who drew human anatomy by dissecting humans in morgue or in private.
Best artists are like that. The more fucked up you are the better you'll do. Art will be your only last straw of humanity

>hands = literally almost like drawing two whole extra figures
>knees = a few lumps
>comparable

>>3218937
you clearly don't draw so why even bother coming on this board?

>>3218979
>>3218960
The point is copying the bubbly heads to build understanding, then unlearn it and create your own simplified method. You're making it sound like Hampton is poison that sticks with you the rest of your life.

>>3218785
> Dissolve
Motherfucker, it never crossed my mind the thought of using that ugly mode for something actually useful. I don't know if you came up with it or saw it on a tutorial, but it's pretty brilliant even if it's a small thing.

>>3219193
You copy his diagrams to understand his information then you apply them to an actual model. Practically the last half of Hogarth's head drawing book has heads that look like melting aliens. Copying everything just because is a very retarded way to learn IMO

>>3219131
i don't think i could get away with murder senpai.

>>3219227
ngmi

>>3218770

Apply for jobs! You are good enough to make art your primary income.

>knees are so hard guys

o rly?

Look at this ass and weep, puny mortal! All that shit piled up on other shit.

>>3219195

Came upon it completely by accident since it's the next blending mode below normal if I recall correctly. It works even better if you blur it after merging it with the underlying hair strand IMO...

>>3218656
>literally impossible to master from imagination
The fuck does that even mean?

You study anatomy, from books and life.

Who the fuck would try and make shit up untill they get it right when there's actual examples to look at?

I swear to god, /ic/ gets more retarded every day.

>>3219557
Cute. Shame about the tits though...

>>3219219
Hogarth can draw well in different style than his books. He didn't add the pictures just for fun. You can learn from them.

I dunno Hampton seems pretty good to me.

>>3219710
Who's the artist? If it's you, blog?

>>3218975

ding ding ding

>>3219712
That's Hampton I think.

How has no one recommended Bammes yet?

>>3218656

I recommend everyone check out this artist cuz he simplifies things nicely. https://www.deviantart.com/art/puzzle-n-dragons-Metatron-543539558

>>3219751

>>3219557
Is that Roberto Bolle? That guy is like a living sculpture

>>3219603
that’s a man, anon

>>3218934
I wish Steve Huston had made that book. His Head construction videos on NMA are amazing.

>>3218769
this

kys OP

OP here.

You guys got memed on. I just wanted to trick you into giving me resources for the kneecaps. Ahahahah I win idiots.

>>3219749

Fuck that's great. Saved.

>>3220419
How do they draw so simply yet convey so much?

>>3218656
No one masters anything from imagination. Doesn't mean you have to use references for the fucking knees for the rest of your life.

>>3220584
knowing anatomy. and drawing the contour that you should know so well. that's it.

>>3220588
>No one masters anything from imagination
excuse me?????????

>>3219749
This, bammes is mvp

>>3220622
expecting everyone to work at the same level is incredibly naive and stupid.

Even the masters of ol' used reference for every single painting. They also do more than sketching, which gives you a little wiggle room for anatomical errors while full on rendering you kinda need to be spot on.

>>3220668
who said anything about expecting everyone to be at the same level? that was a reply to the statement "no one masters anything from imagination". that's completely false.

>>3220674
No it's not. He was drawing for 30 fucking years or so, of course he can draw from imagination now. If you are seriously belive that he got here just by doodling shit from imagination you are completely retarded. Everyone uses references while learning.

>>3219751
Awesome, but too distracting for my dick.

>>3220681
?? You keep bringing up shit that one's actually said. It's not about how he got there or whether he used references in order to master them (no fucking shit), it's the fact that he can do it, so obviously people can master things from imagination.

>it has been said that the location of a joint is more important than the joint itself.

>>3220622
lmao

>>3218656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN94kc7VHns
Sinix did some tips about it. Maybe it will help you :)?

I'm so confused about this thread.