/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

What Gods do I have to pray to to be good at porn?

>>3217019
just get good at drawing for fucks sake
no easy fix
no shortcut
just learnding all day

>>3217017
I know this might not be the place to ask about it but I'm thinking of wanting to get paid for the porn I draw (what a surprise). Normally I just do requests but I've been getting people asking me if I take commissions. I have a Paypal but I don't really want to use my real name when getting paid. I'm considering on making a Patreon but I'm not really sure how the payment works there and if it's the best option when it comes to hiding my real name.

Can anyone offer some advice?

how do I legs

Still a WIP.

How's it looking so far?

>>3217069
Your legs are actually decent, it's your head proportion I'd wory about. The main problem with your legs is that they're pointing a totally different direction than the rest of your body which doesn't make much sense, but they're well drawn.

The trick is to see them as 3D forms, and rotate it accordingly. Don't wory about the feet until you have the legs right. pose maniacs and stuff like that can help.

>>3217048
Take amazon gift cards. Or the likes. The advantage with prepaid cards is that you only need the code. It isn't the best solution but it works out fine if you're okay with ordering everything you wish to buy (which sometimes is actually more efficient)

>>3217069
I think your legs look fine. The top of the body does not have to be facing all the way the same direction as the legs/feet are pointing. It just looks like he's sort of twisting his upper body the opposite direction in a cute way. (this is really cute btw)

>>3217094
make the boobs bounce

>>3217094
The tentacle's framerate feels high enough throughout. The body's framerate feels too slow during the first 2/3rds of the gif.

I don't know if the actual framerate is different for the body and the tentacle, or you're just tricking me with smears, either way you probably need more frames for the body.

>>3217108
>The top of the body does not have to be facing all the way the same direction as the legs/feet are pointing. It just looks like he's sort of twisting his upper body the opposite direction in a cute way. (this is really cute btw)
but look at where his penis is pointing and then look at the legs.

>>3217069
the dick is cute but i didn't see it at all until someone else mentioned it

This is a work in progress. I don’t know if the sizing is right or anything, I’m pretty new to digital art.

Also, anyone got any recommendations on inking brushes for Procreate?

>>3217069
that is very cute

>>3217048
I think you can have a business name appear to your buyers and not your name.

>>3217361
I think I might have heard about that somewhere. I'll be sure to do some digging.

tried to xerox a video still

Ok, I think it´s fappable now
what can I fix?
and can someone recommend good tutorials about digital coloring?

>>3217545
>what can I fix?
maybe stop drawing little kids, you sick fuck?

>>3217547
no
give me advice and less attention

I cannot for the life of me balance style with fappability, the better I draw, the less good it looks

I dont want to draw anime but at this point it seems that more realism just looks unfappable

>>3217555

>>3217550
I will just keep reporting all your illegal posts instead. you're welcome, you sick piece of shit.

Does a porn patreon make money?

>>3217547
But you don't report drawings like this one >>3217069

You have a problem with little girls being exploited, but you don't have a problem with little boys dressing up in lolita dresses, fucking sissy. Is that how daddy used to dress you up, hm? :)

>>3217277
The only recommendation here is that you learn how to use your program before actually drawing on it. The sizing isn't wrong; you lack of fundamental anatomy is.

>>3217517
Next time, don't trace over it until you better understand how to draw. I get it you like chicks with dicks, but fuck, fix that face and the angle the cock is going in to the twink's mouth. And don't get lazy in drawing in your backgrounds, either.

>>3217555
>>3217557
This is not drawing better. Get that Dunning-Kruger thinking out of your head unless you want to end up like the rest of /ic/'s nauseating art pile.

Quit whining about not wanting to go the animu and mango route. There are countless adult artists you can grab inspiration from out there instead of having to dive into the over saturated "feed the weeb" market.

>>3217605
nope

>>3217622
Recommend me some western adult artists.

>>3217622
It was a little boy getting fucked. and it was obviously looking much younger than the artwork you quoted.
GTFO autismo.

>>3217630
Are you just shitting around, or are you serious about me making some recommendations?

>>3217632
But you're okay with tween-kies, though. You're the one who should get the fuck out of here, boy pussy. Either call it down the middle and report everything or go back to fucking Tumblr where your kind belong. :)

>>3217638
if a character could be perceived as a late teenager, I'll give anyone the benefir of the doubt.
if a character looks like an obvious 6 year old, then no. no fucking mercy for that kind of sickos.
again, GTFO.

>>3217638
>But you're okay with tween-kies, though. You're the one who should get the fuck out of here, boy pussy. Either call it down the middle and report everything or go back to fucking Tumblr where your kind belong. :)
You didn't even see the artwork that was posted (it was a little boy, I'd say around 6, like anon said), yet you try to act smart. Let me guess, you draw shota and loli, right?

>>3217605
HURR?
DURR?

>>3217643
So, you're admitting you like them underage then? :)

>>3217647
I didn't save it to my hard drive like you did, pedo. So I can't say for sure what age it was, but I'm sure you do, don't you...

>>3217647
>(it was a little boy, I'd say around 6, like anon said)
Way to narrow down the age with your pedophile instincts, boi.

>>3217647
>Let me guess, you draw shota and loli, right?
>>3217655
Nailed it.

Also, probably it's marmelademum, right? You always like to act all smart and mighty around here.
I also saw your piczel gallery.
It all makes sense, kek.

>>3217638
Make recommendations

>>3217069
Can we have a version with a normal circumcised penis plz?

>>3217693
>normal circumcised penis

Hey Rabbi, whatcha doin?

>>3217693
>ME TRY BAIT ABLOO BLOO
GTFO

>>3217695
>>3217716
Why so triggered by this subject?

>>3217622
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAN!

>>3217693
>>3217729
>Trying to change the subject from him drawing children having sex on piczel.

Thoughts thuss far?

>>3217069

>>3217945

>>3217017
Can I get that picture without the text?

>>3217957
Go to the last thread there are three images.

>>3217926
Needs more dick.
>>3217945
>>3217950
Needs more teen dick, right? :D

>>3217950
The original looked surprisingly better leg wise.

>>3217200
Aseprite has an adjustable frame rate but it can only change it for a full frame (I.e. all layers of the same frame) so it's all at a frame rate of 83ms. This makes it difficult to add more frames for the body. It's mostly an illusion due to the fact that the tentacle "moves faster" (more pixel variation per frame) and as such it feels like it needs less frame.

There's also the fact that we know how the human body moves VS a nondescript tentacle, hence the feeling that a movement is not complete.

Animation is complex science, even more when it's porn hehe. Once I'm done with the mainframe I'll half the frame length (so 24fps instead of 12fps) and add extra frames to the body while using mechanical 2 (a frame doubled over 2 frames) frames for the tentacle. Still a work in progress, thanks for the feedback.

Also open question for everyone, if you could ask for a pixelated animation lasting a second or less (that loops), what would you like?

>>3217945
>>3217950
Stop doing redlines and misleading people. You seriously suck at it.

I was reading through the archives while buzzed and did a redo of some random pic. Sorry for the shitty scan.

Crit?

>>3218097
Good effort with the angle, though perspective doesn't work. I believe you're using cross hatching and messy lines as a crutch. Try to draw clean lines.

>>3217926
Stomach-dick. Lower it.

>>3214770

My new drawing

>>3218680
She looks kinda nonplussed about the whole affair.

>>3218715
I did not know very well which expression to make, and I found this pretty.

>>3217643
>>3217647
He was 10-13, don´t be retarded

>>3218724
>I'm retarded
follow your own advice, dude.

>>3218715
She is a lesbian, after all

>>3218680
the expression would be ok if you were going for mindcontrol bullshit, otherwise seems a bit crosseyed, and unfazed.
also the happy winston made me chuckle

Something from this morning.

>>3217017
>Porn thread
>Filled with homosexual drawings

Yeah nah Heterosexual porn thread when?

>>3217926
this isn't very erotic or creative desu. just generic, bland, and cookie cutter when handling the anatomy and forms

>>3219095
Doing a 'project' study on a 'pin up' going to be moving in to rendering trying to mimic 'Sakmichan' style was going for a 'character-Sentric' pose with 'little to no distracting background' .

Goal is to finish with a printable lewd poster in 'Sakmichan' style but having the 'correct anatomy'.

Debated doing more of a 'dynamic action pose' but was un happy with most references I could find and didn't like the poses.

Pic related for 'Muh Style ' of 'Sakimichan'.

Will take suggestions on how to improve pose and make it more 'interesting'

>>3218680
>Wed
I love this! Keep it up.

>>3218097
Second try.

This time I planned a bit more, and tried adding more confident 'lines'.

>>3219139
what the fuck 'is this'

Wip. I like messy looking lines for whatever reason. Critique me

>>3219078
Something about the guy's placement feels off, like he's fucking her asscheek

>>3219335
Doesn't look like you know the first thing about leg anatomy. Get going on that.

>>3219342
You're right now that I'm looking at it legs look strange now. Thanks!

>>3219349
It would probably help if you continue to look at your drawing while you draw it.

>>3219349
everything looks like shit, to be honest.
you are a typical millenial shitlord.
too busy to pick up a book and do proper studying, trying to skip learning phases and getting to the most difficult stuff right away.
tl;dr never gonna make it.

>>3219395
I get overly focused on certain parts I've noticed so nothing really flows well as it should, I guess that's what you're saying.
>>3219421
savage

>>3219559
>savage
just saying things as they are.
real talk.

Finally got my art supplies and Keys to Drawing.

I'm going to do it /ic/. I'm going to be one of the greatest porn artists in the world.

https://www.patreon.com/nanoless
http://nano-less.tumblr.com/
http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/Nanoless
https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=3417258

>>3219844
Shill fag, leave

>>3219139
Man, has sakimichan ever seen a dick?
His nipples are also melting off that blob of a chest.

Finished this today, though I kinda wish I'd drawn her skirt being lifted up by her weenor. Too lazy to go back and change it now.

>>3219844
generic crap. thank god they're at least somewhat good at promoting themslef.

Finished this today, though I kinda wish I'd drawn her skirt being lifted up by her weenor. Her body doesn't look like it's interacting with the skirt at all.

Is my line weight too heavy?

>>3219949
I thought Sakamichan was female?

Finished this today, though I kinda wish I'd drawn her skirt being lifted up by her weenor. Her body doesn't look like it's interacting with the skirt at all.

Also, is my line weight too heavy?

>>3219949 #
I thought Sakamichan was female?

>>3220183
>I thought Sakamichan was female?
There's nothing in the post you replied to that indicates otherwise.

>>3220210
Oh, when you typed "his" I thought you were referring to the artist. mb.

pls crit, I don't really like how this turned out.

>>3217094
the girl is way to still, make her bounce and twitch.

gimme critique

>>3220398
background clashes way too much and where is the insertion?

>>3220398
Dick's way off to the right. it should be centered where the cloth line is, and the cloth line should move aside. if you want a semi-realistic thing, move the dick as I said and make a small indent/bump in it, where the cloth pushes into it, if it's a tight clothing/underwear. I could probably redline if you need it.

>>3220467
I don't understand whats going on here.. why are you making it transparent? Give the characters more form and connect their appendages to their body.

Hello everybody! I want to start drawing porn and I want to start with fetishes, I'm ready to draw weird stuff. What fetishes are more profitable now?

>>3220467
I legitimately thought this was some kind of fucking abstract art

>>3220600
Diaper, furry, anal vore, urethral vore/ insertion, guro loli and of course scat play. Have fun~

What's the best way to draw cum? I've seen so many tutorials and alot of them look trashy. I want to learn how to draw gooey, gloppy, sticky lookin cum!

>>3220606
OMG thanks that's indeed very weird

>>3220615
Did you search that shit?
You're going to jail kiddo.
>>3220614
Try making a silhouette first. Then do the opacity thing with the layers.

>>3220619
Not yet, but I have a good imagination! But I still want to make money

>>3220398
>>3220586
I got bored, went and did it. For the record I'm really not that good at this, just my 2 cents on how I'd do it.

I tried to draw anime-ish and I can't do that for shit.
Think I'm gonna practice by copying Serpieri, Manara, Moebius, and Magnus.

>>3220651
Gotta work on everything. 'Anime' different way of applying your skills.

>>3217019
research porn and draw from it until you internalize it

Shit work, mostly a warmup

>>3218680

Laughed so hard at the Winston's smile, thanks

>>3218502
Will fix that later- trying to block in values
>>3219315
'What others have said'

>>3220645
omfg please go away to /y/ with your ugly goblins fucking pictures

>>3220614
The head look small

tell me what you think

>>3221080
You finished a drawing. Good job.

Read the sticky and focus on avoiding symbol drawings, go to /beg/ and grind out the copy game.

Never mind me, just passing trough on my way to /beg/.

>>3217017
Hey guys, I really, really need money. I'm willing to draw furry, mlp porn for money. Someone PLEASE tell me how I enter in this "world" and start taking some commissions. Please tell me what I need. I already have paypal account and stuff. Thanks in advance.

>>3221603
Make a tumblr, draw something popular, get commissions. This can take years though depending on the quality. You have to have a portfolio before anyone takes you seriously.

>>3221603
If you really need money you should get a job. It's easier than you might think. Can you even draw in general? Draw a mlp mare right now doing something cute or whatever and I'll tell you if I could hypothetically jerk off to it or not.

>hypothetically

Before I start painting...
Hairy or shaved?

>>3221945
If you want to draw appealing porn, learn to draw interesting expressions. This looks very boring.

>>3220854
You're retarded if you want to block in colors first before fixing anatomical issues. Lower your fucking dick.

>>3221949
I did so because I found her face cute..
Like that, she did not expect what would happen.
Winston really screwed up the expression. But I wanted to draw her, not him.

and expected a more constructive criticism, for example, that the arms of the small drawing were very long ...

Any advice you guys are willing to offer for the skin tones? I can never get them right.

>>3221983
Download a picture of a person open in program then right click on it.

I feel like there is a lot wrong but can't really see any glaring mistakes.
Thots?
pls be gentle

>>3220467
It took me a while to determine what was going on.give the image some solid colors and dark lines

>>3222007
Flip the drawing. Elena's left leg is way out of proportion, and the foreshortening is as if you crunched an outstretched leg inside the canvas. Also, why does it look as if the pale girl's upper arm is melding into Elena's?

>>3222019
Correction. Outstretched thigh.

>>3221945
>censoring clit

what?

Have some inspiration, and no I didn't draw it.

>>3221991
terrible advice, most photoes are either badly done or have a strong tint
>>3221983
I suggest you to get som e good fashin photography, put it in lab mode on 50%gray background and turn the layer mode to color. It will allow you to see the tone variation without the values distracting you

>>3217017

>>3222019
Boi that aint Elena.
But I see what you mean. Ill try to fix it when I get off work.

>>3222133
Here's a (You), good sir.

>>3222137

why is this faggot censored? You realize censoring shit makes you look like a total ching-chong faggot?

You drew the clit right I bet.

>>3222137
This is really well drawn but Tracer's expression is just so...boring and unnatural.
Next time draw expressions appropriate for the scenario. She's getting fucked by a gorilla, she should be atleast yelling or moaning or something.

>"whelp, time for bed"
>save work to png
>size it down
>drop file into Dropbox
>put laptop into sleep mode
>hop into bed on phone
>"I should post this to /ic/ before bed to see if I can get any critique"
>export file from Dropbox
>can immediately see every glaring anatomical error
>"fugg"

Every time.

>>3222137
Having such a porcelain expression on her face doesn't make it look as pretty as it makes it boring.

>>3217693
having an uncircumcised penis is more normal than having a circumcised one. I mean it was normal before the doctors cut you boys up.

>>3217069
Legs are too short, the anime rule of thumb is to make the legs at least half the height of the whole body. If you want to make the character more feminine add an extra head height to the legs for good measure.

my current stuff...

>>3222658
you have such an aggressively ugly artstyle that it just pisses me off to be forced to look at it

>>3222666
Said the devil himself.
>>3222658
The only problem I have is the eyes are too hard looking for females.

>>3222658
Lol don't mirror your figures like that you lazy whore. You should change them more so it isn;t so obvious.

Project

>>3221603
find a commission thread/server etc and post your commission sheet. But willingness to draw furry and mlp porn doesn't mean shit when there are plenty of specialists people can go to

>>3217545
Who was this supposed to be? Hau?
Anyway, I'd worry more about your body proportions first before colors. For instance the arms are a little janked. But besides that, if you want to learn how to render skin there should be some decent tutorials somewhere on pixiv. that would help you get that "anime" look.

>>3221964
>like that, she did not expect what would happen
So Winston began ejaculating the second he inserted? This drawing makes no sense.

How to get commissions for drawing porn? After lurking some time i have the impression that you have to be a superstar featured on first pages and shared by everyone on social sites

horse dong

>>3222847
slowly coming along

>>3222847
>>3222849
Nice so far
Would like to see it finished

>>3222844
You posted here for critique, literally everybody that has responded to you has told you that you need to change the face, and you've ignored every one at every turn.

Also why is Winston's disembodied head floating casually behind her shoulder? It's like he's not even connected to his own cock, he's just idly viewing the situation from and smiling in approval.

Do not post again if you're not willing to acknowledge valid critique.

>>3222862
I do not feel like redoing the drawing.
I'm going to start drawing something new now.

>>3222871
With the same dull, static face because "it's pretty", right?

made some adjustments.
Hope i didn't make it worse

>>3222871
try not to draw the same boring expressionless "cute" faces again.

This is a piece I have been spreading throughout different art boards here on 4chan and would like to know where I can improve should I ever think of doing a new version of this piece.

The piece in question is a Xenogears fanart of mine that has its own story. It takes place some time after Elly and the gang get captured in Solaris and Elly is being experimented on,bred with Wels and forced to give birth to Deus.

Yeah,that was a mouthful. Again,would love some pointers to get better.

>>3222930
Squirtle?

>>3222930
I feel like you are too autistic to be able to ever get good enough to draw something like this.

>>3222948
I think you referring to what Elhaym is giving birth to.

I used this pic as a base for an infant Deus but it hasn't been all too successful.

>>3222958
I came here to get better at my art and not to be insulted.


You are also breaking the rules of this board.

>>3222963
>you are also breaking the rules of this board

Now I'm convinced you're autistic.

>>3222972

>>3222982
>autism intensifies

>>3222972
So unless you have some actual pointers to help with me bettering my skills,kindly shut the fuck up.

>>3222844
well, you could make her looking at his cock

>>3222887
because I like cute faces
My new drawing is getting a cute face.

>>3222999
that's nice

>>3222847
>>3222849
When will you move from drafts to actual finished stuff? What are you waiting for?

>>3223010
Your porn is shit then.
Back to /beg/.

>>3223013
You're not a nice person.

>>3222999

Nice double trips.

>>3223014
Never said I was.

>>3222997
Just use it as a Zenkai boost.
He's not wrong when saying this >>3219335 was shit. So I looked at some anatomy though I still have a long way to go the harshness helped me some.

>>3223126
This goes here.
>>3222963

Where do I go if I'm trying to sell off some erotic art

>>3223011
A draft thats appealing and doesn't have anything wrong with it.

So this is my second attempt at this work.

I wish to improve and see what I can do better here so only constructive criticism and pointers,please.

I am suprises how good this is turning out. Advice, anyone?

>>3222658
working on my stuff...

>>3223275
Dont have much knowledge on rendering but its looking good

>>3223275
>tfw you dont want to convert to Islam and still want qt hijab submissive waifu.

>>3223275
Give her darker skin and eyes. Or is this some sort of white sharia meme? Also, the dudes arm is anatomically fucked and he has no shoulder blade.

>>3223313
Got some references for the shoulder blade, but could you specify what is wrong with the arm?

PS: There are a reasonable demographic of pale skinned Muslim women in Palestine, Syria, Aghanistan, and Pakistan. Gray blue eyes is also a feature amongst them. Hell, even Turkey's population carry a great deal of European features.

Any thoughts?

>>3223241
The heads look skewed horizontally, the scene is more of a mashup rather than a place you're trying to convey.
>>3223379
Make Oriheme more ahegao. Rukias right hand needs to be redone.
>>3223320
You need mental help.

>>3223010
I put cute inside quotation marks for a reason.

>>3223189
nobody said it's not appealing. what's the point of your post?

>>3223275
the musculature of the guy is super stiff, his back is out of perspective compared to the rest of the scene. her foot is atrocious to look at.
basically I'll say what I say to all intermediate/beginners. study perspective and anatomy.
you have solid linework and appropriate color picking, but all the rest is pretty bad.

oh god someone help me

>>3222844
what did you use for tracer's skin? i love the color

>>3223410
Fixed a couple of things. Looking over references to fix the rest, particularly the obliques and shoulder.

>>3223446
Another thing I noticed was that her lower body is completely out of proportion with the upper body. If the tanned girl were sitting upright, her entire lower half would be 2/3 the size of her upper half.

Her left knee should be roughly at or below her nipple line, presumably at. Otherwise, her foot should not be able to go past her balls.

>>3223410
When I drew it, his upper body was meant to be tilted over towards the viewer. I see I did not succeed here, and will do some gesture drawing and anatomy studies until I can convey it proper.

Will fix the stretched side (the side away from the viewer) and whatever else I can tomorrow.

Any thoughts on these?

My newest set of things...

>>3223407
oh sorry, I meant if I see something wrong with my picture, or it doesn't seem very appealing to me, I have trouble moving forward with it until I fix those issues, whether they actually exist or not. I usually get bored long before that and move on to something else

>>3223471
Could you explain more about the lower body...? She is supposed to be leaning a bit forward, not completely upright so I thought that it looked OK for that position.
If use a reference but can't find one.for this specific posr

>>3223501
are Anakin and Link girls in this scenario...?

very heavily inspired by deerchip

>>3223393
Really?

Well I have always had some issue with how Elly's head looks here. So should I give it an upwards tilt or have her head move more left or right?

>>3223393
Sorry,read that a bit wrong.

The heads looking rather off. Which ones should I try and fix?

>>3223630
<3<3<3

>>3223471
sorry to annoy you like this again, but you're one of the only people in the thread giving me any advice lol.
Im beginning to think I went about this drawing all wrong and may have to start all over again. But ive went about it one more before I go to work and tried making sense of the legs in that seated position.

The anatomy may be fucked, but does it alteast look decent

>>3223681
Her left leg is looking fine now, despite a few inaccuracies. Study leg anatomy and draw from front, back, and both sides to build a better understanding.

The right thigh, and the obliques, need to be largened, the latter so they begin right just above the naval. The calf also looks like it is standing her body straight; given the calf is supposed to be partially stretched outward, it looks awkward. The rest passes for now. I may be able to pick up on other nuances in a bit.

>>3223393
So I have moved some heads around to see if it improves things.

How is the result now?

>>3223734
Minimal improvement. Honestly it's un-salvageable. Really, really, really try hard and visualize everything. Construct the characters properly next time. As soon as you put down line work and color you will be extremely disappointed.

>>3223830

That is unfortunate.

Well I am not good with drawing setting s and perspectives. Ant ideas on a good base for the room or something like character placement?

>>3223830

Also,as for constructing characters properly,are all of them a lost cause cause I am having trouble with perspectives and barely work outside of basic perspectives?

I really want to improve but it is kinda hard for me to do so at least to get to a professional level.

my next drawing
I just started, I still have a lot of work to do, but the face is getting cute (I have to make arrangements), and that's what matters, be cute.

>>3223877
Why do you bother asking our opinion if you're just going to tune out everything people tell you

>>3223839
References bro, you have to start small. I would even go so far as to draw popular comic book or anime characters then move to OC stuff.
If not, get your characters down just focus one at a time draw them from all different angles don't worry about busy scenes for now.

>>3223914
Funny you should say that as I have been making this fan piece of Xenogears out of a doujin-like canon where Elly was captured after being caught in Solaris with the rest of the party and how she is being punished by the events of what you are seeing.

And i have been trying to use various references of the actual artwork and lineart of Xenogears to slowly better this. I have a rough draft coming up so I want to know if there are some improvements from my past upload.

>>3223914
So I just did what you said and start anew.

I decided to have things a bit more closer together and try to clean up some of the stencils and skeletons I used for the other bodies/characters.

I will be working on it a bit more but how are the improvements?

Elly is pure...

>>3224050
Making the room smaller and closer together is a good start. But follow that other anon's advice, use some references.
Im sure you can find some of woman on those chairs whatever they are called.

>>3224055
Sorry man.

>>3224061
Yeah I can get references but the specific angle is a tough one.

Actually,all the angled poses are a huge problem for me as I am used to drawing things and people as a basic sketch.

Anything like action poses I struggle due to proportions.

>>3224069
I almost want say try a poser program. I know you're not drawing on a pc but it could be a way for you to get specific gestures you need and don't have the ability yet to create.

>It seriously is a band-aid you will not improve as fast if you just practiced the basics.

As a anon will immediately point out to you and me after this post.

>>3224080

Yeah. I have recently gotten back into drawing after like 4 years of inactivity and it feels like I have gotten a bit worse in some areas as well as some areas I had triuble with feeling like it is worse.

I do not have a PC,tablet or any programs at the moment but it is something I am looking into seeing how every artist on Patreon and such are using them to great effect.

Here is an update for my work.

It was a pain to get all the measurements down so everything looks straight along with the details of various objects.

>>3224335
It doesn't really look like you changed anything other than bringing everyone in the room closer together.
The anatomy is still way off and the perspective is inconsistent.
You are seriously going to need to practice more fundamental aspects of drawing before you post this picture again.
I mean this in the least assholish way possible but you are just wasting everyone's time right now

>>3224405

Sorry about that.

I really don't know what to change with just words alone and my skills are mostly self-taught.

I will stop postin gthis here for the foreseeable future or at least until I can improve hopefully.

I can't really post this kind of work anywhere else to be honest as I am very uncomfortable about it for this kind of thing.

>>3224411
Id Redline it for you but it honestly would just be too much work. I would basically be redrawing the image for you.
Telling you what's wrong with words is the best I can do at the moment.
Try to think really hard and visualize your idea before you start laying down line work like this. It will save you lots of disappointment

>>3224423

Kinda hard to do since many referneces are very selective in how they pose. And I don't have many ways to prop things up with a figurine or something.

I honesly wonder if there is even a point for me to improve or try to as being 28 and out of work I doubt I will get anywhere with my work or at least give satisfactory results.

>>3224425
Then give up then holy crap. Im trying to help you. Its not going to be easy reaching a higher skill level and you have to be willing to work with what's available. Not everyone has figurines or perfect references but they make due. If that sounds like too much effort then devote your time doing something else.

>>3224434
I guess that is what separates the boys from the men.

I dunno. I will take a break for now.
I really am terrible with my basics in art and whatever classes I have taken have not helped me mainly cause I have a hard time grasping certain things like perspective and anatomy.

That is a reason why I hardly shade no more as I cannot get the light sourcing right.

But honestly,as you said it yourself,I am wasting people's time here either way whether I try to do a new version or just give up.

Unless if I suddenly get more comfortable and get a huge increase in skill,posting here is clearly not helping.

Y'all like scalies?

>>3223628
Those aren't Anikin and Link

That's Obi-wan and in the other it's 'the commissioner in cosplay'

And no they are dudes

>>3224507
Am I mistaken bit is that not young Anakin being spanked...they both looked really feminine and the cosplay guy had no gooch.
Guess that makes me gay now

>>3224452
Would look a lot better if done digitally. I like the lines

>>3224335
Looks autistic, man. I like it. But the boobs on the pregnant girl look way too far apart and her stomach looks like a ball. Fix that shit!

>>3223877
Really nice face but not much else
The tits look misaligned with the body imo. Move them up a bit. Also the upper stomach is really distorted. Look at the bottom of the picture.
Make sure you know what pose you're going for before you start lining

>>3223681
Foreground girl's boobs look really weird and flat. Her torso is way too big, she looks like a refrigerator. The left leg is out of perspective and looks small. The background girl is really nice.
>>3223666
Awesome but it's hard to make out

>>3223630
I love the aesthetic but the guys torso and head are way too small compared to the rest of his centaur body

>>3223501
Just looks over rendered and a bit unappealing/boring but at least you can finish

>>3223469
His body and her hole look weird. Like his body is way too buff for such skinny feminine legs. Her pussy is kind of small. Good but idk why you're drawing infidel porn

>>3223379
It's hard to tell what's happening and the boobs don't squish well. Like, the right boob shouldn't be overlapping the left one. Her hands are small

>>3223320
I can't tell what he's doing down there. Also people love you on /y/. Congrats

>>3222658
>>3223276
I like the second one a lot but the middle girl's pussy should be farther up on her body. And the left and right girl's tits are weird and pointy. I actually really like otherwise

>>3223126
You didn't finish the sketch before lining. The tits are totally fucked and so is her pussy. But I like the concept, it's sexy

>>3222849
>>3222847
still awesome

>>3222500
Would be nice but wtf is going on with the dick

>>3224533

Dunno if I will to be honest.

I am a bit burnt out and do not want to start again just so that I would be told that it is wrong again.

At least not at the moment.

I want to make straight lewd comics with a semi-male focus. Half attention on the boy, half on the girl.
Is there a market for that? As a straight female I male/female pairings the most, but I'm always sad at how little the guy is shown. Is it offputting to most male porn readers, or is there an untapped market vacancy?

>>3224533
in >>3223320
he's supposed to be waggling his dick back and forth

>>3224533
>3223666 (You)
>Awesome but it's hard to make out
do you mean the lines are too light or that the composition/pose is confusing? if it's the former i can fix that, if the latter then i'm afraid the piece is inherently flawed and i'd be best moving on

>>3224565
it'd probably do well with biplanes an personal pan pizza people regardless of gender, long as they find both parties attractive. i wouldn't worry so much about what "males" like, just make what you want and do it well, there's a market for everything in my experience.

Why is drawing two characters at the same time so much harder than one?

>>3224692
you're not used to it

>>3224565
DRAW
WHAT
YOU
LIKE

In the long run, your art will be better, there will be more motivation and inspiration to work, and you'll burn out less easy.

>>3224692
Making two bodies interact with each other and their environment properly is much much much harder than just drawing one body interacting with its environment. It's just simple logic.

>>3224533
>would be nice but wtf is going on with the dick
Just hadn't drawn it in yet ;)))))
Actually this is only my second time drawing cock, so I'm not very good at it yet.

>>3224786
horse cock is so unappealing why do people do this

>>3224788
Well I mean, she's a succubus, everything about her is supposed to be sexually amplified, including her grotesque succubi wing-wang.

>>3224789
but why cant it just be big and good looking instead of gross and weird. You didnt give her weird saggy horse breasts

>>3224789
Don't worry about it, nearly everything is perfect. The jaw shape is the only thing that's unappealing to me and that's personal preference.

>>3224795
Honestly? I'm into femdom and this is pretty much my perception of my idealised self.
>tfw you will never be an thicc Amazon-like succubi ho inserting your grotesque horsecock down unassuming men's throats and filling them with your succubic seed

Why even live.

>>3224797
Thanks man, I really appreciate it. Still idling on whether or not I should sketch in a background or not.

How to improve this?

>>3223469
buttsex are haram because it's similar to homosex.

>>3224804
read the sticky and post in the beginner's thread until you learn some fundamentals.

>>3224819
>beginner's thread
already done that hours ago and the only reply I get was go to some gas chamber or something.

>>3224820
Because you didn't try to make anything for anyone to enjoy. It just looks like a trolling meme.

>>3224826
I-It's actually for some request in a certain thread around 4chan. Pic related is my "improvement" drawing of a certain comic drawn by someone else.

>>3217017
o shit my drawing's the op

>>3224533
>left leg is out of perspective and looks small
Her left and your left

>>3224838
*or

>>3224831

That is pretty good as far as improvements go.

Kinda wish I can do the same.

Well I guess I don't quit too easily.

I know I will most likely get the same deal of my proportions being off by a lot but I want to keep at it to see if I can improve somewhat.

>>3224963
Drawing the same thing over and over with the same mistakes will not improve anything.
I made a ref in blender.

>>3224795
My tastes aren't the same as other people's tastes :'^(

>>3225010
Thanks.

I was wondering what was off.

>>3217069
Proko in January. You fuckin psyq'd brah?

I'm fuckin psyched.

>>3218680
finish this so I may use it in RP.

>>3224820
then just read the sticky period.
if you are too dumb to understand it, then you are to dumb to ever become good at art. sorry dude, but that's just how it is.

>>3225010

Okay.
I am now looking at this back to back with some of my older variants and I can see where with the legs I was way off on. The angle of the legs should have been reversed and gone inwards and not outwards.

The arms are also longer and less of the hands are seen here compared to my older works.

Dunno much I can change for the face but the neck line I made more center.

Here is a quick update.

I would like to know if this is a good size and angle for Miang who is now properly looking over Elly in this picture.

>>3217017
Something I had lying about. Got a lot of attention on my profiles.

>>3225099
I'm really trying to help you but it's just not there yet. Draw Elly like you were going to make 3d model out of her, in an A-pose 4 direction. Front, side, back ,and an angle front in between front and side.
Stay true to the original art as possible none of your style yet. Then, attempt this birthing pose again and in the multiple angle thing again. You need to think in 3d.

>>3225337
Thanks.

I guess it may be a while before I can draw this scene fully to be honest. I will try all the different angles whenever I can.

Funny enough,I have really been winging it all this time as I have mentioned before,I did not feel comfortable sharing these sketches to any other place to get critiques.

Thus I never gotten any way to improve on this work.

It all really started with how lacking in the Rule34 department there was for Xenogears and Elly inparticular as it seems.

>>3225337
Also,should I draw Elly as she is supposed to be on the picture i am drawing naked and pregnant or should I stay on model as I can with the actual source material?

>>3221983
>>3223469

Nice m8, blog or website? I'd love to follow you and get inspiration. Only thing I'd say is that the guy looks a little bit posed and stiff? I feel like his sense of weight and motion could be better, indicating thrust. Awesome work though man mirin.

Anyway guys, can someone critique my torsos. I think I've got the right idea, but some stuff needs work.

Females. I'm pretty happy with them actually, but appreciate any constructive advice or redlining. Especially with front view! I struggled the most with front view. I think I basically got it, but it still doesn't satisfy me. Granted, you almost never draw people in this stiff police line up kind of front pose but still.

The top right pose is consciously exaggerated, the rest I tried to maintain realistic proportions.

(I know this isn't porn per se, but my goal is to do porn commissions, so yeah. And the beginner generals tend to be really fast moving and work is swallowed up there)

>>3225421
And males. Lel. I like how the right one turned out but the middle one needs work. The hips look very off.

>>3224831
don't be let down by the short-fuse-bois and keep posting! my attempt as feedback is in JJJJIIIIFFF form!

a WIP
should probably be done with it tonight

>>3225489
>why the kink
A blatant copy paste gesture from the original material without any prior knowledge of gesture. I am ashamed. Truly.
I have this feeling that there's something lacking going on the drawing but couldn't figure it out myself. Perhaps I was asking at the wrong judges/critics back then.
A-anyway how to give life to this? >>3224804
And lastly, will it help me to draw if I'm modelling 1/6 clay figurines? I don't have any sample work right now.

>>3225675
stop fucking drawing characters and comics, you dumbass. go a step back and first learn what perspective and gesture are.
draw simpler things like still life and interiors. internalize how simpler shapes work in a 3d environment and how to translate that on a 2d medium.
you'll never improve the way you are doing things right now.
stop being so fucking stupid.

>>3225010
>>3224963
I like it

>>3225678
show sample artwork that's not reversible on google please

>>3217517
learn gesture and anatomy. Then rendering techniques. Your sharp black lines clash very abrasively with the shading. Your shading in uncertain and doesn't push value enough.

>>3218097
Besides anatomy, your hatching is very arbitrary and doesn't really ad anything.

>>3218680
You have potential, but I would recommend formally learning anatomy and learning to construct instead of just drawing out. Study gesture too.

>>3219335
Besdies anatomy obviously, Gesture. Learn to exaggerate poses. Her pose is stiff and static. Couple rookie mistakes. Don't make a black outline around fine things like lips. Your attempted hand doesn't blend seamlessly with the rest of the style. The attempt is too realistic. It should be more simplified and cartoony too match the rest.

>>3220183
Ear is too out and up and big I think. My eye was immediately drawn to it. Otherwise pretty good although not super into the content myself.

>>3220614
You should focus on anatomy first.

>>3220645
I don't know why you are so stubborn about not learning gesture and anatomy. You're not even hopeless despite how many people trash you. You clearly love drawing and do it a lot. In that, there is potential.

>>3220654
Like this m8.

>>3220686
Anatomy and gesture.

>>3221945
Ok, but pose is beyond stiff and it's derivative. I feel like this is an oft mimicked pose that you can just tell is drawn out instead of constructed with sense of motion and gesture in mind.

>>3224335
You are not ready for something this . If you don't focus on grinding fundamentals and building on what you've learned you won't get better. Your attention is way to scattered. You are not skilled enough to be doing elaborate detailed compositions like this.

>>3225337
So here is a quick rough draft of the various poses you told me to draw with Elly.

So what else can I do just to improve this one pic here?

>>3225897

I am the last anon you were talking to.

I now know that this kind of work is out of my league at my current level of skill. I really do want to get better at this so that I eventually can. Most people go on with the fundamentals and basics which sadly mostly goes over my head as my skills are mostly self-taught and I had trouble learning in a school environment.

I really want to make a vast improvement soon but other than a few replies,they have mostly been the same thing which feels vague to me.

I would like to be able to exactly pinpoint where I get things wrong and iron them out.

But nonetheless,I am thankful for those who took the time to help me improve.

>>3225932
Not the guy you're replying to, but check your leg anatomy for one. The outer curve of the calf peaks higher than the lower curve. The overall taper at the knee is too much here too so it's too "pinched"

>>3225938
I always wondered why my legs are off.

>>3225937
>Most people go on with the fundamentals and basics which sadly mostly goes over my head as my skills are mostly self-taught and I had trouble learning in a school environment.

You can improve by yourself. There are many good books and tutorials online. I recommend Proko for figure and anatomy videos.

For books:

Anatomy - if you only get one, "Drawing the Head and Figure" by Jack Hamm

Perspective/Composition/General - "Successful Drawing" by Andrew Loomis and "How to Draw" by Bertling and Robertson

>>3225939
Yeah, it's a crucial thing to keep in mind about the calves. The legs do not look like an hour glass. Common rookie mistake.

>>3225944

Will do.
Just started the first video of the series and will be intently watching.

>>3225836
go fuck yourself. either take my advice or ignore it, scrub.

>>3225937
OMG you really are a dense.
I told you. stop drawing characters and complex scenes like this one. instead draw simpler stuff from reference like STILL LIFE and INTERIORS. You need to internalize perspective if you want to draw a complex scene like the one you are trying to wing here.

>I really want to make a vast improvement soon
>soon

sorry for bursting your bubble here buddy, but this is not how art works.
either get ready to put in the hard work and patience, or simply stop trying.

when I see people like you I wonder if all millenials have some sort of autism.

>>3226001

Makes me really wish I better spent my early adult life trying to perfect my craft.

>>3226006
Judging by how type, I highly doubt you would have been capable to do so either way. You sound genuinely too dense to understand what you have to do to improve and it kind of ticks me off

>>3226021
Well then sorry for wasting your time.

>>3226035
-.- stop feelin' sorry for yourself, you'll never get anywhere with that type of ego.
>>3225639
The hands are worrying me you're missing a finger on her right hand too.

>>3226071
Not sure if same anon but one moment you are slurring insults using autism and the next you're telling me not to feel sorry for myself.

If same anon,my autism is nothing compared to the bipolar shit I am seeing right now.

>>3222847
>>3222849
Love your work senpai

>>3224452
Not a furry but I like this, the head is maybe a little too big for the body even for an anthro character. I would like to see more

>>3226081
it's not the same anon, no.
get a hold of yourself, dumbass. start practicing to draw the fundamental stuff I mentioned to you 2 times already. stop wasting your time here trying to make virtual friends, for fucks sake.

>>3226081
Of course its not the same person you simpleton.
Look, sorry for getting annoyed but aren't going to be seeing any results no time soon and your idea is too advanced for your current skill level.
So stop redrawing the same thing over and over again expecting different results, you need to focus on practicing fundamentals and drawing simple things for now.
Peace

Alright,I decided to use a completely different angle to see if this works better.

>>3226114

Honestly,I am starting to see it was a mistake to come in here without actual prep work.

As people have pointed out I am rather way in over my head and need to get better by doing smaller stuff and getting some key points in anatomy correct.

I just never had the perfect environment nor teachers to help me out in a way that makes sense for me and is intuitive to my quote autism.

>>3226128
That actually looks a bit better, but you still need to work on your anatomy

>>3226132

Thanks.
You do not know how much that small bit of improvement means.


I will try and cross reference whatever I can of female body builders and women giving birth.


Wow.......I really am autistic.

>>3226133
Good luck fuckboy

>>3226132

So I decided to do a quick sketch up on the female anatomy and I am starting to see why some of my lower bodies look off when drawing females.

The inner thighs and claves are not quite perfect matches to the outer curves. Especially the thighs that concave inwards at a certain point. In fact,the inner thighs I have realized are much more straighter than curved than the outer portion.

>>3226132
Forgot pic.

>>3225897
Prick

So this is my latest attempt at this.

I know I shouldn't be trying this till I better master my anatomy but I wanted to see if this quick sketch has more improvements.

>>3217017
Can i get paid yet?

>>3226071
its a sketch layer, im not going to draw her with 3 fingers...

>>3225994
I don't know how to do that, please demonstrate.

>>3226208
no

how many porn artists get away with just copying photos from /s/? i see artists like shiin making money and i feel like i could do way better

>>3226273
You don't understand anything yet. He's making fetish shit with a niche market.
>Shadman
Not good but fills a void. Find the void get the cash.

>>3226304
That's true.
Shadman despite having some flaws of his own makes a rather nice amount of money for what he does.

I think he may be one of the most well paid artists of his specific field.

>>3226216
>please demonstrate
it would be just a waste of time.
you are way too inexperienced and way too dumb to take advantage of any expert advice.

>>3226208
nope.

>>3225932
trash

>>3226465

Yeah. I am nowhere near as good as the original artist when it comes to drawing Elly.

>>3226478
stop fucking replying to every single post and gtfo of here. fucking autistmo.

Uhh hey
I don't know how to porn
Show me the light

So anyway, i'm thinking about going back to NSFW stuff, should i go back to my profile with REALLY shitty work? I'm thinking about deleting it all and just use the old account, since it already has some(like 60 now i think) followers and stuff

>>3226524
That is actually pretty good anon

Critique me.

>>3226651
that kinda looks like something holly brown would do

>>3226524
that's really good.

>>3226651
learn musculature and how the muscles attach to the skeleton. the anatomy you are showing here is really really bad.

I'm having trouble with this drawing ...

>>3226651
>tumblr penis

>>3226929
Her actual left eye is slightly crossed inward making her looks slightly retarded. Also her facial features seem to be indicating a straight on look while her jaw is very slightly pointing in another direction. You can either realign facial features or more easily just adjust the jaw a tiny bit. Be sure you are flipping your canvas often while you work.