/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

i'm trying guys. i just started learning and hope i can get better

More quick pose practice

I know there are figure drawing apps, but they usually have noodly bodies. is there an app/gallery that has lean/athletic people in it.

I kinda also don't like that whole "you've got 4 seconds to draw, yo!" nonsense.

>>3206754
Keep drawing, but pls sthap chicken scratching. Make your lines smooth and long.

>>3206761
At your lvl i recommend to not drawing quick, but slow and accurate.

What did i do wrong and how can i git gud /ic/ ?

>>3206804
https://www.quickposes.com/en

The point of the 4 seconds to draw thing is gesture drawing, it's training your eye to look past details and find the poses, mostly for mileage and it will help keep your poses dynamic and from looking stiff

if you don't want to do that thats fine, you can usually find the croquis cafe models for dl in the book/resource thread

>>3206804
Or you're looking for pics similar to the one you posted I suggest the Wikipedia resource of photographs of William von gloeden

>>3206828
Try to compare your shapes more accurate, study noses and lips and for the glory of sparta sthap chicken scratching!

>>3206804
If you're looking for pics similar to the one you posted I suggest the Wikipedia resource of photographs of William von gloeden

>>3206841
Thanks my man !

>>3206828
Honestly looks pretty good already. Only problem would be the length of the face. The one you drew has a short head in comparison. Though, that could just be my mind making up shit.

Just some unusual sin material.
How did I do?

>>3206887
you don't belong on this board

Looking for any additional constructive criticism. I got one good comment so far that made me alter this a lot.

feels at times like porn is the only way to keep studying anatomy fun, it´d be so fucking boring otherwise

anyway this is where im at with art atm, where i can go next?

>>3206672
Don't have any tablets. Simply scan pencil drawings and color them on computer.

Fucking HELP

>>3207022
why you didnt give her face any shadows?
ps. getting sick of captcha

>>3207022
Olivia Munn?

>>3206673
quickposes users, what's your streak?

>>3207029
Wanted that flash photography look

>>3207030
Glad its at least good enough to recognise, yeah

>>3207029
>ps. getting sick of captcha

settings in the top right > quotes and replying > enable legacy captcha

>>3207022
But for real though, help

I AM SO GOD DAMN SICK AND TIRED OF NOT BEING ABLE TO DRAW GOD DAMN IT

I THINK ABOUT GITTING GUD EVERYDAY BECAUSE OF THIS FUCK ASS THREAD

GET IN /BEG/, LOL GIT GUD GIT GUD PATHETIC LOL LOL

I AM SO FUCKING SICK AND TIRED OF THIS SHIT

THAT FUCKING GOD DAMN FEEL WHEN DRAW LIKE A 6 YEAR OLD

THAT FUCKING GOD DAMN FEEL WHEN NO SATISFACTION FROM BEING ABLE TO DRAW A STRAIGHT LINE BECAUSE ANY LITERAL RETARD CAN DO IT SO IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

THAT FEEL WHEN BROKEN HUMAN BEING

THAT FEEL WHEN THIS THREAD IS RUINING THOUSANDS OF LIVES

THAT FEEL WHEN YOU SEE A 5 YEAR OLD WHO DRAWS INSTANTLY BETTER THAN YOU


THAT FEEL WHEN IT COULD BE A LOT WORSE BUT DON'T CARE MY LIFE IS SHIT

JUST BE BETTER GOD DAMN IT

YOU COULDN'T HAVE FUCKING DEVELOP BETTER DRAWING SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE
YOU JUST HAD TO EAT NOTHING BUT PROCESSED BULLSHIT LIKE POP TARTS WHEN YOU WERE A KID YOU FUCKING STUPID PIECE OF SHIT

YOU JUST HAD TO BE BORN PREMATURE AND ROB YOURSELF OF DEVELOPMENT

FUCK THIS GAY EARTH

MY TABLET COSTS $600, I HAVE TWITCHY HANDS AND I AM A NOOB

THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN LIFE AS A MALE IS BEING ABLE TO DRAW A FUCKING PERSON

KILL ME
CUT MY FACE OFF

NO ONE RESPECTS ME

>>3207088
How can anyone respect you when you don't respect yourself?

>>3207088
kek, if you lack even the self-control to realize you're writing some of the cringiest shit on 4chan then you might as well just quit.

>>3207088
>all that bullshit
Never gonna make it.

>>3207088

just give up, you'll never be able to adopt a mindset that is able to succeed if you keep thinking like a baby

Animu
I Don't know anything about robots. I need to be aware of design and perspective

>>3207112
why the text

Drawing Phase 1 - http://www.mediafire.com/file/xg4gn24k3372rpg/0+-+Drawing+Fundamentals+Phase+I.zip

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ya9b60emo7xvp91/Drawing+Fundamentals+Phase+II.zip

>>3207137
I don’t have a good hand writing anon, sad. I don’t even have a good signature.

gonna shade it tomorow

>>3207088
Calm down,

First. Are you practicing in a tablet"?? Don’t do that,
Practice on paper first then go for digital stuff. Don’t complicate more your studies

>>3207171

No. It's okay to practice drawing on the tablet. Drawing is just drawing. That guy is a special case. People who practice on the tablet knows that it takes time to get use to it. Nobody expect a magical gains. At least nobody with the average intelligence.

>>3207187

No crit, just question..

Do you start with line sketch or jump straight into value shapes?

Even tracing requires fundamentals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFwZrldyC7g

>>3207220
It's a form of stylization, just like photobashing!

>>3207218
just for this one i skipped line sketch. but i don't think us /beg/ should do that too often because it makes painting a lot easier in terms of measuring things, i've noticed (and a lot better artists have told me the same thing).

I just want to know what should i do to make this pic feel realistic?
Like the shading and composition feel off to me but i dont know where to start when it comes to fixing it. I need to know what i should study on first to improve.

>>3207260
maybe not realistic maybe
feel cartoony but real>>3207260

Guys, I have a problem. I love art, and I love drawing. Just based on the work I can put out when I actually put in the effort, I know I have real genuine potential to be a great artist one day.

But... For whatever reason, it's really fucking hard to get myself to draw every day. Or even once a week. It's like I'm instinctively compelled to do anything else, like video games or movies. And no matter how much I consciously want to draw, I always just end up doing those things anyway. I hate it, and it makes me hate myself. I feel guilty, and like I'm cheating myself by not doing what I should be doing.

I want so badly to break my terrible habits, but every time I try, it seems like it just makes it worse. I don't know what to do. It seriously breaks my heart every time I see my old artwork and knowing that I haven't done jack shit recently.

How do I break out of this... I guess rut? How do I fundamentally change everything about myself so that I can actually achieve my art goals?

>>3206672
redline my anatomy please

>>3206804

>>3207263
Set a goal of one hour a day as a minimum. Typically I tell myself that when I'm feeling lazy and end up drawing quite a bit.

If you can't even do that, then delete all your video games and other distracting shit.

If you can't EVEN do that then you clearly do not want to draw badly enough so go do something else until next year when you severely regret not having started today.

>>3207260
Regarding composition, there is a lot of wasted space at the bottom. The image doesn´t need to be a closeup of the sheep, but you could easily convey the same information you do now only with the upper half of the image.

Anyone got a cheat sheet for visualizing or feeling out the form and drawing hips during the construction phase. I keep trying to use a cube or cylinder to define the area but it doesn't work out to well for me. I must be thinking about it wrong.

>>3207264
dud ,, here is your redline,, you got a long way to go bud ,,, (ps also read sticky !!!!) ,,

>>3207272
Wow this is really great. Sauce?

>>3207383
This board is truly useless.

>>3207264
>>3207383
>>3207388
fuck of bro!
this is why people dont post in the beg thread any more
your fucking shit at redlines

>>3207264
not a redline, but the biggest problem I see is proportions. Everything appears way larger than it should be, and I the twisting of the form seems nonsensical in a pic related way.

>>3207383
What the actual fuck

>>3207388
how are you entitled for someone to spend time drawing over your work

especially in a thread full of shitters

>>3207406
Hmm? I'm not that anon, but I can't imagine the point of this thread if half the posts asking for feedback get ignored and the other half get the most generic and vague feedback possible. To be sure, I'm not saying anyone deserves to get quality feedback, but I'm not sure why give feedback at all if it is garbage tier with your super rare diamond in the rough.

This cycle of shit feedback though isn't getting anyone here anywhere. It is mostly a place for to grow on your own and occasionally log what you do.

I guess you get what you pay for. Still, there are better communities for this shit, >>>/ic/ ranks at the bottom though.

>>3207264
Hope this helps!
I'm not an expert in anatomy so please correct me if I'm wrong!

>Been wanting to get back into art and shiet for a long time
>Get wacom intuos art tablet for birthday a few weeks ago
>Been using Leonardo (Trial) as my art program
Behold, what I've worked on for the past hour or so

Self-portrait in oil pastel. With a lame Camus quote.

>>3207418
It looks like you're not actually drawing with your tablet. Those lines look like they were made using a straight line tool... You should just do some random scribbles and get comfortable using the tablet pen, and try to make something freehand.
If you want a good art program, try Krita. It's free and very high quality.

>>3207421
It seems like you're not super familiar with drawing in pastels. Just do more, and practice anatomy. Loomis will probably help you out.

>>3207422
The only thing made with the straight tool was the big square. I saw a diagram of a box filled with a bunch of circles. I filled mine with A circle. I've been getting a little better at drawing circles.
I got Leonardo recommended to me by an anon over in /trash/, and I like the simpleness of it so far. I've downloaded PaintTool Sai, and I got Corel Painter Essentials 5 for free with the tablet, but nothing really stuck with me.

how to chest

>>3207467
simple answer is to draw the forms
drawing forms forces you to think in three dimensions
put this into practice by drawing people out of cubes/cylinders and such things

>>3207478
I usually do, bet as soon as I try to contour it, its ruined, maybe I'm doing it wrong

>>3207383
What does the sticky say about this?
This dude is more of a visual learner

>>3207414
This is even worse than op

>>3207493
How?

>>3207263
You like the idea of drawing more than the act of drawing.

>>3207467
I feel like you've given him a barrel chest that's way too large compared to the other features.

The chest does not make up the majority of the torso, nor does it totally fill out the upper corners. It's actually quite small, and *roughly* the same width as the hips at its fattest section. The extra size of the torso comes from the addition of shoulders, the large space between the chest and the hips, etc.

tl;dr your ribcage is too big, make it smaller

>>3207497
That's not true. One of my favorite things is when I start a drawing and just get lost in it, and end up doing way more than I planned to.
The immense satisfaction I get from completing a painting is unmatched by anything else I've ever done.

The excitement I feel when I realize I can draw something now that I couldn't before, the joy I feel when people like my artwork... those feelings can't be replicated by any other activity. I don't fantasize about being able to draw like I might, say, mastering martial arts, because I know that it's completely within my grasp to do.
I do really enjoy drawing, and I have no shortage of reasons to draw. It's the task of getting myself to start. It's the fact that I've been stuck with bad habits since long before I ever realized I wanted to take art seriously. I don't know how to break them.

(You may have seen this one around before, but it's seriously one of the last things I managed to actually work on. Most recently was a crocodile sketch a few days ago.)

New drawing, what do you think?

>>3207516
More progress than anyone else on here.

>>3207516
unironic progress

>>3207519
>>3207521
progress from what?

>>3207414
Thanks a lot for this, I did this with 0 reference out of thin air and I can really see now how much I fucked up. I think I should just change legs pose, make it a more natural but yet still dynamic pose, or maybe I could have her arch a bit forward and have her right arm in between the legs. I like though how much fixing her waist gives her a lot of extra volume. Thanks again desu, there are still anons of value in this board.

>>3207264

>trying to learn how to draw with my whole arm and how to draw on a tablet at the same time

help

I can't even draw a square anymore. I try to draw a straight line or a circle and I overshoot it by a mile

I feel like a cripple in some kind of physical therapy class and I'm trying to relearn how to do extremely simple things

>>3207603
Post samples of drawing with arm and how you would normally do it.

>>3207603
Chances are your tablet is too small so a normal motion of the arm becomes a gigantic spastic spasm on the page. It's like trying to use a mouse with the dpi too high.
Get a bigger tablet, switch to traditional or embrace carpal tunnel.

I'm going to try this drawing thing again and hope I don't give up this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBY4Z4N95lw

can I have some critique?

>>3207622
I don't even know where to start.

>>3207626
please, I want to improve

>>3207383
this really reminds me of xavier renegade angel

hos this

crits pls

>>3207709
>>3207711
Seriously what resources are you learning from?

>>3207713
loomis/hampton mostly with a bit of everything else. why?

>>3207709
From looking at the two reference pictures, you seem to have a habit of drawing heads more vertical and facing the viewer more than in the reference. This is true for both photos - the model has his head more tilted in both.

>>3207719
looks like you are right

I am a bit confused because i can't read japanese, but what is the second method on the right supposed to be? Just a more advanced construction method of the left one which shows you where to put the features more easily or for easier construction in perspective? but you could construct the ones on the right with the method on the left, no? i am confused

>>3207723
Mapping out features on the skull in space I guess.

>>3207723
Shows it in context of a box form. A box form is a short hand perspective grid.

>>3207723
>all the eye catching guides are in a language i don't speak
Aaaaaa

>>3207735
ITS! FUCKING! LOOMIS! GOD! DAMMIT!

>>3207737
*ahem* I think you mean "Roomisu".

>>3207737
>memeis

>>3207737
it's not japanese so it must be shit

>>3207088
don't go full lil peep

Critique muh gestures. Also I chickenscatch like a madman

Am i doing this correctly?I just did this after watching this guy's video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMX3K3YMbd8

Is something wrong so far with how ive positioned light? Also tried with the green ball simple shading

>>3207785

You're not /beg/

>>3207805
I live for the day someone will say this to me

>>3207807
just add smooth deep shadows at the end of every muscle shape and youre at his level

>>3207169
well done looking good!

>>3207536
What do you mean?

>>3207178
Well, I think is better make studies with traditional media but if digital works for some one that is fine. I was just trying to help. I don’t like to see someone so angry because can’t draw. It takes time and there is a lot of knowledge to learn and paths.

I’m burning but I’m learning.

>>3207866
you've got to stop overshooting those dots, the dots not only define the direction of the line, but also its exact length.

Very clean lines otherwise though, nice and tight without any real wobbliness or curvature

hows this style of rendering?

>>3207959
Weak, and time consuming I presume.

>>3207939

>>3207939
I know anon. It’s a shame I’m trying hard. I need to stop doing that and I’m trying. You won’t believe how worse I was the first time I tried. This is day 3. I can see improvements it is far away from the goal. Dynamic sketching fundis are friking hard and awesome.

>>3207939
Clean

>>3207974
Ignore the anon who said to stop on the point, while it wouldn't hurt to try it is something that will come naturally and would be tedious to weed out as an individual problem.

You will end up working with pencil and you can always erase or ignore over extensions.

>>3207978
Thank you for the advice anon. Actually I watched a pro saying the same thing. This exercise are awesome I feel like I’m really learning how to control my arm. I feel like I drew a lot.

>>3207965
any ideas on how to improve it?

>>3207986
Use actual popular and known rendering techniques. You might be able to draw better than your average /beg/fag but you still aren't anywhere near good enough to be attempting to create your own style.

Help me /beg/

>>3208051
Shit forgot my picture

>>3208053
you see you didn't even read the OP, which starts with "RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
" and ends in a sticky

how are you supposed to improve if you don't bother to read the resources we give you

>>3208053
you're jumping into rendering without having a decent drawing or understanding of the underlying structure

if you wanna jump into doing faces through rendering then study the asaro head or something (pic related)

https://sketchfab.com/models/6238cb4ace5d4a9aa9a881ec800dbdd1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

>>3208053
You have all the symptoms of symbol drawing. Go to the sticky and fallow the link with the resources. There you will find all you lack and need. You will realize that we have a long path.

>>3208053
Enjoy this shitty redline

>>3195411
Shit i turned him into meth addict

>>3208084
Patchy value. Answer?

Use big hard brush.
Break down the shapes, shadow and light, if you have time make little thumbnails of value compositions.
Think before make the strokes.
Do not over render.
When painting with big brushes zoom out and paint the big shapes first.
When painting the medium shapes with a midi brush size some in a little.
Then details.

All this is what we need to do. The problem is.. it is easy to say it then apply it. I won’t lie to you. I have problems too but with practice we will master it.

>>3208094
Thanks for the advice m8

>>3208084
John Balance did all sorts of drugs, but only once each. He managed to escape addictive qualities of all drugs bar alcohol which might have lead to his unfortunate loss of balance causing him to fall down the stairs and die as a result

Critiques?

>>3207497
This perfectly describes me.
>tfw aesthete with no creative drive

gondola walker for a board challenge

>>3208170
Nice! Would like to see it finished.

Hey Guys, I just bought the 12 shades of grey markers thingy, can anyone post things I could value study that are SIMPLE but kinda cool looking? I mean something that is not a motherfucking box or a complex face. I mean references.

>>3208195

>>3195391

friendos I need help with the feet ):

trying out some 5-point, it's pretty fun

>>3208146
it alrigh

>>3208146
It coo

>>3208170
I love this

>>3207800
If you are ever having trouble rendering a sphere, think of the largest single light source model you have

>>3207766
bigger, longer lines, man
remember s c i lines

Capture and exaggerate the movement/rhythm of the pose

>>3208327
Haha, nice try, the moon isn't a sphere

>>3208269
it doesn't make sense how the guy is already flying when the punch hasn't even started yet.

I suggest working from gesture first, then add structure.

>>3208336
maybe not, but your mom is

Before I get shit on, I realise I should've been using a proper sketchbook.

>>3208383

>>3208385

Just started reading Loomis. I gotta say, the way he describes drawing a face is like molding clay is surprisingly helpful.

I keep missing the target but is better.

Yep better

>>3208269
Have you ever punched somebody in real life? The arm's supposed to be already extended when you're doing a straight like this.

Play this game and then come back if you're too much of a puss to try martial arts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGRfp68zHUw

>>3208383
>>3208385
>>3208386
Pretty okay as far as sketches go.
Are these all from pictures?

>>3207088
>THAT FUCKING GOD DAMN FEEL WHEN DRAW LIKE A 6 YEAR OLD
youre lucky, its my life goal. i might get there in 3 years

I tried drawing a cat, but I can hardly keep my eyes open

>>3208013
hatching is popular

How is it? First time using Steve Huston book and I feel like my drawing is already better. Also, was able to build the figure pretty fast.

Drawing a birthday gift for someone, would like to do so as good as my beginner skill can allow.
Before I go on adding more details to the drawing, I ask you guys to please point out any mistakes or ways to improve it.

>>3208513
Along with missing a lot of major angles towards the bottom, I recommend you work with plumb lines, you also lack form and mass your drawing looks incredibly flat.

Think spatially, define the major masses with cubes and cylinders and carve out those shapes into the ribs and pelvis etc... Then add contour lines to define muscles and other things on top. Good luck!

>>3208428
Yup, too autismal to draw from life

I'm really not getting this gesture stuff. Every explanation I find is accompanied with what feels like some "draw the rest of the owl" level artistry and I get left behind.

>>3208519
Thanks for replying. I'll take you said in consideration but regards the drawing looking flat is because I'm trying to get just the structure right then add the muscles/flesh.

>>3208518
Don't you have any shame?

>>3208525
You have no method, and you're no where near the stage of having to worry about gesture.

>>3208525
Use the negative space, does that space in the middle of your drawing look anything like that of the models?

hello guys i would love an advice with this digital painting, anythnig you can tell me

How I learn to copy with accuracy? For example, I always put the arm more far than from the picture, or I put the leg lower than it is in the picture. Please help.

>>3208588
keys to drawing

the book you should have read by now

>>3208591
Which chapter?

Am i doing this right?

>>3206672
the tablet is so slippery what do i do, im so sad

>>3208571
>You have no method
So if not gesture, what should I be focussing on first? I'm already working on my line confidence and general control because it's lacking.

>>3208593
not him, but really nigga?
The whole fucking book
jesus christ, ngmi

>>3208593
which chapter is the measurement one? look in the table of contents, i'll wait

what is this level of handholding even

>>3208591
>>3208593
Shake my fucking head.

how does this look?

>>3208635
looks like your work

>>3208638
is it still bad?

>>3208635
Yeah this in unmistakably your work.

Could you do a simple head with more defined planes?

>>3208640
look dude you arent going to get better until you start practicing more than an hour a day

>>3208641
what do you mean? post an example
>>3208642
I don't have that kind of time these days

>>3208652
then keep drawing these neverchanging faces or give up

>>3208655
no. i still draw an hour a day and this one is different from my last face.

>>3208635
seeing you in these threads is still surreal

never leave

>>3208669
ill stay if you give me a reason to. namely a critique

>>3208652
Like these things.

>>3208674
you niggers are fucking shitting me. i did these and posted MULTIPLE times months ago and no one responded

>>3208678
hmm, have you tried drawing bland symbolic female heads from a 3/4 angle?

>>3208678
Then apply it to your weak heads you keep pulling out of your fucking ass.

>>3208685
well thats what i was doing before i was doing this. then everyone said "stop symbol drawing and draw what you see" then i started drawing stuff like the last few i posted such as this

>>3208686
well my problem is when i try to paint, my colors are fucked to begin with and look childish and i sort of suck at lighting. but none of this matters because i dont have enough time to 'paint-paint' anymore so im just going to practice drawing heads and figures from imagination for a while.

>>3208691
Beginner starting out, any advice or gripes? Pretty sure the measurements are way off, but I'm happy I managed to get something that resembles a human.

>>3208701
whoops, did not mean to reply to that, sorry.

>>3208689
Try drawing the images with less detail.

>>3206887
furries are a bannable offence

>>3207022
Not a drawfag, Anon, but I can see it's your positioning that's off. The overall proportions are good, the features are just misplaced. Five minutes in PS gave me pic related.

Lasso'd the eyes down quite a bit. Then to the right a little. Brushed in the fringe on the top left and opened up the hair that was pinching in around the eyes. Added a little highlight to the parting.

>>3207034
>tfw alone
Oh well at least I'm getting better.

>>3208594
Put some more lines onto your screen and we'll see.

>>3207583
Puts, you're turning into N*sebro. Stop it. I know you look up to him on because you hang out with him on his server and all, but you'll ultimately become a worse version of him.

>>3208806
>not a drawfag
>is on art critique board
>gives "critique"
i fucking knew it all along, except for the book thread this whole board was a meme

>>3208885
>except for the book thread this whole board was a meme
this is the true red pill
its the pill for /pol/ too

>>3208902
/pol/ has a book thread?

>>3208912
8 c h /pdfs/
the most culturally important place in the world right now

>>3208912
It's called /sig/

Just tried drawing again, but a few minutes into it I felt so stressed and angry that I just ruined it and tossed it. Feels bad. Why am I a bad person?

>>3208950
Cause you touch yourself at night.

>>3207088
I feel like you're very likely better than I am, but I don't sperg out like this so nobody notices and I can get legit feedback.

I'll admit that I do hate advice that's "dude it's wrong" with no concrete advice on it; that always sucks.

>>3206672
Please help with my proportions /ic/.The eyes look too big and there might be more problems with it. Please help kind gentlemen.

>>3207516
Here are some problems I see.
>Eyes too rectangular and looks like ones of an alien or a minimalist background
>Try a simple shape like an oval and then angle it out
Hope you enjoyed!

>draw for 10 minutes
>space out for a few seconds
>fucking ruin everything

Is there a way to will myself into having a brain aneurysm?

>>3206672
How important is quick figure drawing on beginner level?
I can see how timed figure drawing can be of help in teaching you to focus on essential shapes instead of detail but 30 sec-1 min is not nearly enough to draw even the sticks without feeling rushed.

>>3209012
does the hatching make it worse?

Working on this, any thoughts?

>>3209013
Your style of "hatching"? Yes.

>>3209018
why is it not "hatching"?
how can i improve it?

>>3208968
Eyes and nose should be of equal width, corners of the mouth should align with the centre of the eyes

>>3209015
calf closest to us is too thick
beyond that leave /beg/

>>3208912
https://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg

This is the major repository, it's constantly updated.

>>3209032
See it now, thanks
Honestly Im not confident enough in my own art to think my studies belong in the general drawthread

>>3209032
dont do this to him man

moar bargue

>>3209064
i unironically think it isnt /beg/

>>3208146
I like this, it's charming. The only thing I'd suggest is maybe adding a subtle gradient to the background so it draws the eyes upward, as well as making it feel less empty.

>>3209002
The idea is that you're supposed to capture the "big idea" as fast as possible. No matter what area of art (when painting, block in the big forms instead of going into details first for example) so in figure drawing the less you muck around with the minute intricacies of a pose, the better you're getting the idea of the pose down.

>>3209069
a 1:1 photo copy is inherently /beg/

>>3209093
So is a 1:1000 photocopy pro?

>>3209098
A beginner wouldn't be able to take a photograph and perfectly draw it on the side of a building.

>>3209103
1:1000 is 0.001 the scale not a thousand times larger

>>3209111
These were done on post-it notes so a little small

>>3209025
How about not keeping a light-year of distance between every hatching stroke and putting some actual line weight into it? I suppose the way you are doing it now is a good way to lay down the general direction of the hatching, but you should fill it in once you are done.

>>3209111
>>3209113
Very european.

>>3209135
Yes, I find it easier making forms out of dots, it makes it easier to see the shape in my head

>>3209121
not him, I think it looks fine and you sound like an angry shitter, post your work

>>3209032

It's just clean. It's still /beg/ maybe not the bottom tier of /beg/ but still /beg/

>>3206672
This may seem like a silly question but how should I draw gestures?
Should I just be making stick figures?
Should I be drawing bean/robobeans?
Should I be drawing a mannequin?
So far I have been drawing them like this, and I'm not sure if this is too much or not enough detail, and looking at what places like prokos videos show is just confusing me more.
Any advice?
Do these look correct?

>>3207034
Quickposes pose library seems very limited I keep getting the same pictures over and over.

>>3209013

Not bad. It does show form but it's the same lines everywhere. Look at the cloth on his feet. It looks like a chicken feet.

Follow the light source and most importantly define the form. Everything have it's own texture and form. Don't use the same hatching you do for the body on the clothing.

>>3207088
I know that feel
I practice maybe 8 hours a day but I feel like I am wasting that time since I can't tell what I should be doing, I havn't finished any one of the beginner books recommended here because when I try to follow the exercises I always hit a roadblock where it seems to expect prior knowledge of something it hasn't covered yet like anatomy or shading.
It feels like I'm just spinning my wheels sometimes

>>3209175

Proko is not the only one who do gesture videos on youtube.

>>3207088
do you think i could have your tablet when you off yourself? :3

>>3209177
Yeah I noticed that too, but I don't mind it, it's a nice warm up and reminder. I doubt anyone got their 1000 hour* drawing certificate though.

*(it's actually 1810 hour certificate because they count each goal seperately. 10 + 30 + 70 + 200 + 500 + 1000. Reaching that would be fucking insane. You can only draw for 1 hour each day at most).

>>3208327
not the anon you were responding to but I actually do find that helpful

>>3208573
Aren't you supposed to exaggerate the gesture?

>>3209175
memes aside, loomis really is the best place to start for an absolute beginner.

>>3209195
I know I was just using him as an example, if you have someone in mind that provides a solution to my problem I would like to know.

>>3209239
So is that the shape I should be drawing then?

>>3209256
You can do whatever you want anon. Look at Proko's gestures next to Vilppu, Hampton and Loomis. They're all different.

As long as you get the pose correct and it isn't stiff as shit you'e doing well. Get a good sense and feeling of the pose with long strokes and you got yourself a good gesture.

Any tips/advice or critiques?

>>3209256
Yeah, it's not really a shape, more like the flow of your figure.

It's basically an extremely simplified skeleton.

It helps you visualize which part goes where and how they all relate to each other (proportions).
This whole process shouldn't take you more then 30 seconds to do, and once you have a general idea then you can start filling the shapes in for your figure.

>>3209267
>As long as you get the pose correct and it isn't stiff as shit you'e doing wel
>>3209270
>Yeah, it's not really a shape, more like the flow of your figure.
So would you guys say that the gesture drawings I showed in >>3209175
Are correct or should I modify how I draw them?

>>3208345
>>3208415
I drew the first one the way I did because I was trying to imitate that anime thing where the attacker is moving so fast that they send someone flying with little effort. Basically sending someone flying without having to fully extend the arm.

>>3209284
It really depends on what you want to do.

The drawings you posted aren't really gesture drawings. What you're doing is simply trying to draw the outline for the shapes.

Gesture drawing would be more like what >>3209267 posted.
It shows the flow of the figure, and most of the time these kind of drawings can get very abstract.

Figure drawing on the other hand is all about structure.
If you want to realistically represent the shape of what you are trying to draw then I suggest starting from a solid foundation like >>3209239 then working your way up from there.

Hopefully this wont get buried here but....

Can someone share an art schedule to help develop strong fundamentals? can be daily, weekly or flexible enough to build on its self as you progress. I saved pic related a while back, and i've seen some others but didnt save them.

I have about 5 hours a day to work on art btw. was thinking something along the lines of:

>Hour 1: work from a book(go through /ic/ recommended fundamental books). Do exercises in the books- stuff like form, line, perspective etc.
>Hour 2: Faces / Figure drawing. Alternate between the two. Use picture references if needed
>Hour 3: specific body part (nose, mouth, hands, feet, etc). Use anatomy book.
>Hour 4: Life drawing. Draw from life; sketch outdoors, friends, still life.
>Hour 5: Free / Creativity. Work on personal projects, experiment with different styles and different mediums, do whatever you want.

Goes w/o saying but not doing 5 consecutive hours, but throughout the day. Thoughts, improvements, different schedules?

>schedule meme
does this actually work at all

>>3209312
>5 hours a day to work on art
Must be nice.
Between irl work and life stuff I'm lucky to get even an hour done each day.

>>3209332
>Must be nice.
it is man, but it didnt come out of nowhere. Being super unhappy where my life was headed i made some changes and thanks to /biz/, crypto and some other stuff i set my life up(at least for the next ~9 months) to where i can focus on the things i love.

I did this a few weeks ago during class. I'd appreciate any opinions, tips

>>3208170

what board?

A funeral for my new friend

Can someone red line this?

out of practice

Out of practice

chadwick [B]oseman

>>3209434

>>3208571
>Don't you have any shame?
You're the worst kind of person.

>>3209012
This is honestly my favorite thing you've done so far

Did one in my proper sketchbook, tried to do it with a felt tip but I'm not sure about the hatching, feels a lot more binary than shading with a pencil

Am I just not cut out for art?
I enjoy drawing when I make something that looks good, but I can't actually sit down and do "fundamentals" or anything because it bores the fuck out of me. I don't want to draw a bunch of random bodies and still lives, I want to draw cool shit! I took a class and it was just months of still lives in charcoal and shit. That was money that I fucking wasted.
I also suck at just sitting down and drawing because I get discouraged when it looks like shit.
This sucks coming from being a musician, because music is so fucking easy when you compare it to art. Though maybe that's because I've been playing musical instruments since I was 6.
I don't know. I know what I want to draw in a general concept, but when it comes to actually drawing a picture I can't do that because I have no visualization in my head of what it's going to look like.
Am I just really over thinking all of this?

>>3209483
draw cool shit fundamentals then? If you want to draw fucking badass cars or something then draw badass boxes in perspective then turn them into cars

time 2 schleep

>>3208576
there's a lot issues in the painting.
Right now, I suggest you work on your drawing skills before you attempt another painting.

If you truly want to improve, study anatomy. Learn how to simplify the head into planes and how to visualize the eye in 3d.

If you don't want to put so much effort in, learn how to copy photographs with better accuracy.

>>3209483

find enjoyment in progression

>>3209121
>closer lines
got it, thanks
>>3209188
>use different hatches for different materials
how would you suggest i vary this? can you post examples of something similar
>>3209467
thanks

>>3209519
Before closer, try thicker.

>>3209549
i strongyl believe that is not correct

>>3208868
What do you mean? I'm already a better nosebro than nosebro. Nosebro was someone dear to me and I just want to keep his legacy.

>>3207143
Thanks for coming back anon!

Extremely shitty drawing of an Amazon box.

I think I might keep this box for life drawing. I can draw it at different angles. Need to do a life drawing everyday ;_;

>>3209587
Because the bottom of the box is further away, the corners should be getting smaller instead of larger unless it's a really weird shaped box

My control is really shitty (really really shitty) but I still want to draw something. I'm doing the boring grind of lines, circles, waves ect but it's mind numbing. I can't really draw anything else though in the sense my hand just doesn't move how I want. Sure I can brute force it but I don't want to learn bad habits. Not sure what to do or what topic to work on. I'd post work but it would just be shitty lines.

>>3209605
Post work anyways.

>>3209608
I think I've improved since I started but it's still quite bad.

>>3209609
move your arm faster

>>3209609
You're probably resting your palm on the paper and squeezing the pen like a dolt.

>>3209610
I have tried that but it just causes the line to swerve off course. I'll do some more practice trying it though.

>>3209610
>>3209615
For example. Is this a better way to practice? I thought it might be worse to rely on speed to keep things steady.

>>3209614
I might be squeezing the pen a bit but my entire arm is off the desk and moving.

>>3208635
decided to start painting this in greyscale since i blow ass at regular painting. i obviously have a lot to do but is this coming along okay? its my first attempt at a greyscale drawing from imagination. i think the eyes look creepy as fuck

and how is this figure? i know the bottom leg forshortening is fucked but what about what about the rest of it?

>>3209631
haven't seen you in a while.

>>3209636
start here >>3208635 for the latest episode of 'eric will not improve or take advice'

>>3209636
with the way his art looks, it's like nothing changed

>>3209638
Holy shit this dude 's artstyle reminds me of a guy who legit thought you can learn art lessons (perspective, anatomy or shading) in like less than a week without constant studying or focusing on it longer. Holy shit he was so salty.

>>3209645
i never claimed that though and i plan on taking 10 years to get good (at 3.5ish now). why is it so hard to understand that some people have limited time? you cant just tell people they cant do art just cause you dont think they improve fast enough

>>3209642
well does my lighting look consistent and such

>>3209650
The lighting reminds me of the pillow shading I used to do on sprites.

>>3209650
I never claimed it was you, I just said you remind me of someone like that.

>>3209650
>>3209660
Also as a side note, as someone who has been studying for arts for multiple years now, I must confirm you cannot learn something in an instant. Even when I thought about that I could, I ended up improving constantly each time I went back to study it more and focused on it more. When I tried to get an eye art style, I experimented for a while instead of literally looking at one tutorial and saying "I can do this let's go to another thing". You have to practice a thing longer than just a day, especially if you want to improve on it.

>>3209687
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>>3209687
>>3209687

Still working on it, I'm jus still figuring out how to make them look less awkward

How are Android tablets for drawing, specially the S3. I'm really struggling to justify buying a Surface Pro since I already own a laptop but it's not stylus compatible.