/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

yes, by reading your loomis and the sticky and learning HOW TO FUCKING DRAW ISNTEADF OFUF FUCKIGN SHITTNGIN UP THIS BOARD WITH FUCKIGN BEGENNER :ASS QUESTIONS GOAD DAMN why doesn't anyone realize that if you could fucking do the shit Loomis motherfucking recommends you could draw any fucking thing ANY FUCKING THING FROM ANY ANGLE YOU MOTHERFUCKING WANTED MOTHERFUCKER christ

I can't think of anything else than getting a cast/statue, or a live model or even photos and grindig hard angles until you get familiar with them and think easier in those views.
Getting familiar helps because heads can look realy wrong in extreme angles.

>>3189485
I just copied these over and over again:
https://orig09.deviantart.net/13bb/f/2012/096/6/6/head_references_by_snuvi-d4v6vc0.jpg

heres a couple refs

>>3189754

>>3189485

Camera. CAMERA.

Also, go on sketchfab and search for male/female head. You'll find 3d scans that can be freely rotated

>>3189485
You literally have that 3D model of a planar simplified head that you can rotate all you want. Just study that

>>3189593
Sketchfab models are far better than this cancer

>>3189485
One thing I find particularly frustrating as a weeb artist, is learning how to draw anime heads at unusual angles. It's just so hard to find reference, because of the variety of styles, the inconsistent and often physically impossible construction and the fact that most manga artists aren't very good at it themselves.
I really wish someone would make a large collection of high quality 3D anime heads, so I could use reference without copying someone else's art. I've tried using MMD heads, but most of them suffer from the same problem as the 2D art does, in that they look absolutely awful from many angles, and rely on all sorts of camera tricks to look good. The jaw and area below the chin are particularly bad, both in 2D and 3D art.

>>3189984
Agreed but have you looked at Kawacy's reference sheet? That's the only good one I've seen so far ;_;

Really old, but I still like yuumei's chart for being anime but not too much.

>>3189994

Wtf dude, this is awful?

>>3189985
This is complete trash.

>>3190006
That's the point, I don't even like Kawacy's heads.

And I don't like the Yuumei one either.

>>3189994
>>3189987
What the fuck, why are you posting this garbage?

>>3189485
anyone know if theres a cheap chinese copy of this head online? dont know why they are charging over a hundred bucks for a piece of grey plastic.

>>3189985
he's pretty good at rendering but /beg/ in terms of drawing. the

>>3189987
0033 is god. though i don't recommend copying any of these diagrams as they won't help you to understand more, just encourage mindlessly copying stuffs.

>>3189994
the hair makes the distortion less obvious; the looking up and looking down angles don't even follow the Vanishing points. the cyan grids are pretty misleading. lol.

i recommend studying the skull in its 6 orthogonal views, then box it in any perspective views as you'd like. here, that's the accurate and efficient way to study the head. my thx to vilppu and Robertson (i actually understood robertson better after using vilppu), you'll also need a skull ref with its 6 sides exposed in 0 perspective--- though you can also apply the same principle using an actual human head but its features may detract you from concentrating, though it's possible (such as loomis). construction boxes are essential to grasp difficult/unexplored subjects. and once you've grinded enough, you can drop the construction away.

Bump, isn't there a solid way of constructing this view, something well established?

>>3192320

Good ol' Loomis head does the job just fine.

>>3192342
it's not great for high or low angles, it's difficult to accurately place things on a sphere

>>3192352
Let's say we replace the sphere with a cube, that way, placing it in perspective is easier