/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3176072
He hired a xerox machine. Can't wait.

>>3176086
At least hes the right race to paint them

>>3176072
>Kehinde Wiley
Isn't this the guys that pays assistants to paint for him?

>>3176072
Maybe it's the angle but right guys arms seem fucked

>>3176072
A literal xerox nigger. Imagine my shock

>>3176086
>>3176183
Isn't that the perfect type of person to paint an official portrait though?

>>3176072
>>3176164
its the angle. Nothing wrong with it.
>>3176132
You mean like Michelangelo? Also I've never heard that. No one has ever said that.
>>3176183
I'm not sure who said it but "you are not a true artist until you can perfectly capture someones likeness" Was the painting not supposed to look like the person, bitch?
>>3176119
>>3176086
Just shut up.


Nothing but salty mother fuckers in this thread.

Good for him, but why did it take so long for Obama to get a portrait done? Furthermore, I didn't even know we still did presidential portraits? I also wonder who'll do Trump's portrait?

>>3176220
Responding to everyone in the thread. Now thats salt

>>3176233
k

>>3176231
yeah they still do them, but it's usually a while after the president was the president

>>3176214
Idk depends on how it's executed. Photo or in person. If in person there are better artists, black artists included, who could do a portrait in person that would come out better. A lot of Kehinde's work is really gaudy, I hope he just does a regular portrait of obama without all the fanfare, but then again why hire the guy if that's what you wanted.

Also if you guys weren't aware, Sargent and Zorn both did presidential portraits. This guy is a far cry from that, but a step above the really staid boring portraits done for the past couple presidents. I just hope it's not too eccentric. We don't need Obama riding a horse draped in red fabric wearing a durag and an OBAMA chain, which is basically what Kehinde does.

>>3176256
>We don't need Obama riding a horse draped in red fabric wearing a durag and an OBAMA chain

Counterpoint: every presidential portrait should be like this.

>>3176270
i guess... honestly i would've rather seen Kerry James Marshall do the portrait. There's shock value in Kehinde but I bet the portrait won't be like the ones he normally does. I bet he cracks under pressure and all that affectation goes out the window. Inb4 a boring presidential portrait.

>>3176256
>A lot of Kehinde's work is really gaudy

I agree but I think it works due to the subject matter.

Either way I think it's a good choice, hope he sticks to his style and doesn't opt to do something more traditional, also this thing better be fuckin huge.

>>3176296
imagine literally that painting, but it's obama. barack's such a memer

>>3176300
between barack and trump we've had the memeiest presidents in history for the past decade. Early obama wasn't like that but he definitely grew into it.

>>3176282
>shock value

Kehinde does normal portraits. He will only paint Obama with ice if Obama wears ice to his sitting. He might paint a brocade pattern over him, but nobody will be offended by that unless they identify as a silkworm.

>>3176307
honestly though I think kehinde is actually kind of bad at painting black people. They look exactly that: painted. Must be the way he lights his subjects but their skin tone always looks like a layer on top of their actual skin, rather than their actual skin.

He paints black skin like it's translucent, when if you REALLY want to capture it you need to make it as opaque as possible.

The transitions in that painting between the light and midtones make the skin look transparent in a way that is really jarring and decidedly unblack. Doesn't probably help he chose yellow/red light instead of blue, white or natural light which is undeniably the most flattering to black skin. Warm light sources always make black people look weird.

>>3176072
>Motherfuckers on /ic/ criticizing a professional painter for being a "xerox"
You people have no self-awareness, do you?

>>3176256
>We don't need Obama riding a horse draped in red fabric wearing a durag and an OBAMA chain, which is basically what Kehinde does.
I doubt it will be that, since you didn't describe Wiley's style so much as one particular painting he did.
> A lot of Kehinde's work is really gaudy
Northern conceptions of color harmony and theory are dumb. The rest of the world prefers having actual color.

>>3176323
he literally copies photos. It's a glorified collage that he makes. He's just at a nigger level iq and hasn't figured out how to work a PC and a printer yet. The hype is the same as when an elephant paints a picture.

I makes me cringe the see regular dressed people placed in those contexts. I don't see how that's empowering. We be going to mars and wear timbalands.

>>3176375
I just don't get why anyone gets this mad about anything. Let go of your hate, anon. If you don't like it, go and make the stuff you like, I'm positive you can find an audience the same way he found his.

>>3176385
thanks for the free psycho anal cyst, dr Freud. My statement was factual reality, no emotions involved

>>3176220
Shut the fuck up you beta trannie LOSER. "perfectly capturing a likeness" does not involve painting like you are printing a photograph. To perfectly capture his likeness a good artist would spend a great deal of time with him getting to know him abstractly then he would imprint the canvas with all his layers of understanding about the human. That would possibly achieve a perfect likeness but you can see why there is no one correct answer.
Saying this guy is gonna do a boring lifeless portrait is more correct than whatever retarded first year philosophy youve drummed up for yourself. Anyways

>>3176309
Thats interesting about painting the Blacks. The opacity might have to do with the actual reason for dark skin which is not allowing UV rays to permeate the skin and radiate it.

>>3176388
>My statement was factual reality, no emotions involved
lol

>>3176375
At the risk of sounding cliche, "Then you do it."

Can't spell hypocrisy without "ic"

>>3176231

No one, Trump doesn't appreciate art.

>>3176474
I remember reading in one of those new yorker issues doctors leave on the table when your waiting for them, there was this guy who had constructed a Trump statue, and was taking it across to country to give it to him (something like that). So there has to be someone willing to do the deed for free.

>>3176430
not an argument

photocopier aside, this guys work hurts my eyes. Really intricate saturated patterns for backgrounds? Does he want to blind us? I feel like I found the hidden nigga in a magic eye picture.

>>3176072
Literally a xeroxnigger.

so much chink cartoon faggots in this thread.

>>3176397
Every time I come to this board I'm amazed at the stupid shit that people post.

>>3176375
I would say kill yourself, but you won't do that so can I ask you to post your work?

>>3176183
>>3176549
This is the most obvious same fag I have ever seen.

I saw a bunch of Kehinde Wiley's work at the OKC Museum of Art awhile ago, and didn't find it too interesting. The paint handling is pretty boring, they're made up of very thin layers and are very obviously painted from photographs, as the images themselves are very flat.
I've seen his work at the national portrait gallery as well, and though they're initially really striking, I can't help but get bored pretty quickly.
I'd heard that his work was better before he had studio assistants do all his painting for him, but I haven't seen that work in person.

Amy Sherald though, I like quite a bit.

>>3176220
reddit go back to your pozhole p pls

>>3176072
He should unironically hire illastrat.

Brian should go paint Trumps offical portrait.

>>3176282
> Kerry James Marshall
Paint Obama like an old racist stereotype minus the red lips?

>>3176544
You just have no taste cracka. White people food be so bland lol. baka. Time for POC to show you how it's done.

>>3176562
I post my shit on the DED site and in relevant threads, this is the weakest derailment tactic that people who can't support their opinions use.

>>3178354
Okay, now link to it so we can see it.

>derailment tactic

How does it derail the conversation for you to prove that you’re an authority?

>>3176309
They're basically monochrome brown instead of all the rich colors black skin has, including blues and purples in the right conditions. His work feels very student-grade, photography based stuff with no expression, very stiff and uninspired.

>>3176383
The idea with a lot of his work is to put black figures in classical contexts esp. from art history, to elevate them since they were not empowered subjects for most of art history. The problem with and ultimate failure of this is that he is incapable of mimicking the style of the classical masters. He is like an art student who thinks "if I can paint something real like a photo, I'll be like the masters", but the artists of the renaissance, baroque, Dutch golden age, etc did not attempt photorealism, they had very different goals and methods. So it comes off a cheap imitation.

>>3176072
I was gunning for my nigga illastrat the number one black creative on /ic/ to do the presidential portrait.

>>3176072
That's pretty racist. He hired some black guy because he was black?

>>3178690
Also he is appropriating European culture, not cool and quite problematic to be frank.

>>3178358
my finest work to date, made just for you

>>3176072
Niggers can't draw. Big woop

>>3178690
But he doesn't paint photorealistic or even in a naturalist style. His subjects practically glow. He's not so much failing to imitate the style as using his own style to present black people in the same light as the original subjects. Those older techniques don't work so well with darker skin anyway.

And it's not so much a matter of elevation as it is recontextualization, so that viewers approach the subject from a different angle than they otherwise would. As much as I hate Kara Walker, he's basically doing the same thing as her, contrasting our expectations of a style with our expectations of a subject and forcing us to reconsider both.

(But /ic/ doesn't need to go to art school lol)

>>3176544
I've always wondered if color blindness was more prevalent in people from northern latitudes. Would help explain why they think antiseptic minimalist boxes aren't ugly and lots of saturated color isn't beautiful.

Why is /ic/ so salty over this?

I like the aesthetic of Wiley's art, but he really needs to widen the range of color he uses to depict flesh and clothing. He could be using reds, blues, greens, oranges, etc. to really make the hues in skin pop against his floral backgrounds, instead he just uses... Brown on top of brown. It's really bland. Obama should have hired Harmonia Rosales or Njideka Akunyili Crosby. I suppose Wiley's piece will really pop and be extravagant though.

>>3176231
Ringo Star, hopefully.

>>3179897
>Those older techniques don't work so well with darker skin anyway.

That sounds dumb as heck, what the fuck?

He's actually a pretty ok painter. Obviously hired for his race, though. Hope he makes a lot of money on it, because it's honestly kind of insulting to hire an artist for their race.

>>3179938
An affirmative action hire is the perfect person to paint the portrait of the first affirmative action hire president.

>>3179938
>Obviously hired for his race

There are lots of black painters, some of whom have been mentioned in this thread. The former president probably just really likes saturated floral prints.

>>3179900
It's /pol/ or abusers of it, usually. Ignore it if it bugs you.
Personally I'm looking forward to the final product.

>>3179899
Lisa Frank's crap looks relaxing compared to this mess because it doesn't have eye-gouging patterns stealing the focus from the subject.

>>3179899
Wouldn't that imply that people from northern latitudes are more sensitive to color, and the ones who go overboard with it are the color blind ones?

>>3179979
Loud obnoxious art for a loud and obnoxious people.

>>3179900
because 4chan is full of white male millenials that use the anonymity of this site to be racist because they are too chickenshit to say these things to black people in real life.

>>3180384
everyfins racis and shiet. damn whitey bois usin words and shit. hurtin mah monkey brain yo

>>3179900
We’re really, really big fans of Obama. We wanted the job. We’d be mad at ANYONE who landed it, for taking our dream away.

>>3180384
OP was racially charged bait, what did you expect?

>>3179897
>hurt dirt art school
I've got a BFA actually, minor in art history, but that's irrelevant. All that's relevant is that you clearly have no idea what the fuck you're babbling about:
>Those older techniques don't work so well with darker skin anyway
L O fucking L

>>3179920
You're right of course but there are better examples

>>3176072
he paints more than 90% of /ic/

>>3181205

>>3181207
Bit later than the others, but by a black artist

>>3181208

I think this person's chinese and I think this was painted in a digital medium but I really like this piece

>>3181219
*artist

>>3181208
Love this rendering.

>>3176072
Will the negro ever stop stealing from the white man.

>>3176072
I'm a white nationalist, and I say good for him.

>>3176544
Yeah, that 100% saturated reddish/orange with it's complimentary colors evenly arranged was not a wise choice. Yikes...

>>3179945
>One of the most chill Presidents we've ever had used affirmative action to get elected

Go sit in the corner and think about what you typed anon.

>>3176307
>>3176296
>>3176544
>>3179979
this is gay af

>>3178338
What the hell does this have to do with anything?
Stop shoehorning. It's unfunny.

>>3180404
Here's your (You)

>>3179897
Lmao, this was basically the thesis of a twelve-paged essay I wrote in Community College because I knew my art history teacher loved Wiley. Sometimes I really regret pursuing a degree in STEM.

>>3183439
You could at least spell "yeah" correctly.

>>3183439
sheeeeeeeit

>>3179945
>>3183477
Nice samefagging.

>>3182140
you are absolutely correct, he was a lazy ass nigger and left the house in shambles. As an artist you should know that stereotypes exist for a reason.

>>3179920
Honestly, with that as your example I have to agree with them.

>>3183496
>Lazy to me cuz he a nigger

>>3183504
Look at the other gorgeous examples in the thread then.