/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

What video is that?

>more pls

>>3183265
it's from an instagram from some teacher I don't want to pull it up from my history because I'm lazy

>>3183257
At that school
It's personally taught

>>3183274
lazy bitch.

>>3183257
but but hampton is all about this anon

>>3183265
>>3183274
pretty sure it's will weston? a teacher at art center

>>3183288
Damn so even art center teachers are good

Isn't that exactly what Hapton teaches?

>>3183301
no

>>3183257
Judging by his instagram feed Art Center is some form of chinkville where only rich, light skinned asians bother to apply.

>>3183291
>one of the best art schools in the world
>surprised that the teachers are good
???
>>3183322
You fuckers say the weirdest shit.

>>3183322
Exactly. That's why Asians are so good. They have daddys wallet to go to these walled garden schools that have superior teachers.

>>3183324
>You fuckers say the weirdest shit.
I mean I don't know how to else to put it.

It's an expensive school.

Most of his instagram pics have asians in it.

A speckle of white person here or there.

No niggers allowed.

And lets be fucking clear: these cockmongling chop chops aren't paying for this school by themselves from a part-time job flipping burgers.

Where is the confusion?

>>3183302
Oh to be fair, he kind of does in terms of anatomy. But it's the construction that hampton does not compare.

>>3183327
If the future isn't already here this is it - tech is run by Patels and Mohammads, and art institutions are being taken over by Lis, Lees, Kims and Sues.

The white man is fucked. Created technology. Created art. Only to have it taken from him by these uncultured fucking barbarians.

it's not rocket science: use simple shapes, understand how form works, etc.

>>3183334
>give rich ladychink sugarmomma the white cock she so craves
>progeny entered into the gook master race
>asians inherit the earth, are not held back by morals, remove kebab.

doesn't sound so bad, anon

>>3183334
>>3183366
Posts like this makes me think that a mental health check should be mandatory before being allowed to use the internet

>>3183334
Cucked.

>>3183360

post work

>>3183366
There is absolutely no fucking way someone can enter into Art Center without being fronted a huge amount of money either by rich parents, by scholarship, or by both.

The tuition cost alone is $160,000 USD, nevermind all the fucking living expenses.

That pretty much wipes out everyone but the rich class. And by rich class, I mean the chink class.

I'm surprised they don't have translators hovering over them like they do at Repin.

>>3183375
Even chinks barely get by. There's an anon here from art center that can't even leave campus because there's not enough money for a ticket.

>>3183376
holy shit i lost it

>>3183369
Thats okay chop chop you'll understand some day when your institutions start getting taken over by uncultured barbarians trying to assimilate your culture because they can't be proud of their own.

GUYS fuck lower the /pol/ shit It's funny yeah but please tell me how can I get to learn this level of construction

>>3183382
It's not supposed to be funny. It's a fucking tragedy.

The way to learn it is to have this teacher.

He teaches at Art Center.

The cost is $160k.

Your competition are kids who have been groomed to enroll into this school since before they could speak fluent chinglish.

Good. Fucking. Luck.

>>3183382
get an asian girlfriend from Art Center and feel her forms

>>3183379
Lmao u mad cuck?

>>3183384
Do asian women from art center like the bbc?

>>3183383

Hampton also taught (and still does) at art center and we have his shit. There must be something. Does watts teach this stuff?

>>3183383
It's honestly not that hard to get into with a scholarship. The amount that you get is based on your portfolio, but unless you're going Entertainment Design it's relatively easy. Just google like "Art Center Illustration Portfolio" and see what kinds of portfolios got scholarships and how much.

Attached pic is from some ED portfolio and I think the guy got a 50k scholarship for the 2015 Fall semester.

>>3183386
Whatever you say chop chop

>>3183390
Watts' model isn't as elaborate as this, but then again that's all these things are - models.

Wouldn't surprise me NMA has something considering they've got Rey Bustos who also teaches this shit at ArtCenter.

>>3183392
>tfw even if you get a scholarship it's still not enough to cover everything and is pointless anyways

>>3183394
Funny, I've seen Bustos crits online somewhere and he gives the women 5 mins longer than the men. He's one weird guy.

>>3183399
He's off the fucking wall in most videos. I think he had one too many coffees or something.

>>3183392
The guy is like already semi-pro. The fuck?

ACAD has a 10-week long analytical figure construction class for like 700 USD. Peter Han also teaches a dynamic sketching class there, too. There's always other alternatives.

>>3183392
>tfw realizing how weak my fundies and scholarship prospects are looking at this

>>3183401
>>3183404

This is what I'm trying to say. Look at the portfolios ENTERING ArtCenter. These kids are trained early on and prepped for schools like these.

>>3183396
That's almost a third of the cost. If you live in California, there are plenty of other grants you can get. AC also provides financial aid. If you're young just do what I did and do a short contract in the military so you get the GI bill and reduce that cost a lot as well.

If you're not using everything available to you, you're not trying. Considering most people on this board want to shitpost /pol/-shit instead of grinding all the free resources available though, it's not surprising.

>>3183401
>>3183409
Like I said, as long as you're not going for entertainment design you're fine. Go illustration, much weaker competition. I just know everyone here already wants to go ED because of "mah space murins" and stuff.

>>3183328
>expensive
>>3183327

I thought it's just 500 USD per semester?
unless you need to attend all of the semester. I dont know how he teach semester, but 500 USD is still affordable at a certain extend.

>>3183589
>Students are required to be enrolled full-time and must maintain a minimum of 12 units.
Nope, you'd still have to pay full tuition. They have a non-degree seeking program called Art Center at Night, but Weston doesn't teach their.

Or do you mean Weston's outside classes? His website is broken so no idea. I wouldn't be surprised if his one or two day workshops are 200 USD+, though. Workshops always seem excessively pricey. I don't even know if they have any benefit for non experienced artists.

>>3183605
like these one

>>3183334

>>3183375
what exactly is the problem here? you won't be able to create the art the top tier fancy schools offer to those who can afford it? the level of crap you'll learn in these places is hardly needed to get good enough to enter the market, let alone be competitive. you don't pay for skill and the knowledge offered is niche and mainly incestuous.

>>3183589

"Fall 2017 through and Summer 2018

Undergraduate Tuition (per term): $20,704
Graduate Tuition (per term): $21,881
Universal Access Fee (required each term): $300
You will have a $300 tuition deposit credit on your account for undergraduates and $400 for graduate students. The tuition amount due is $20,704 for undergraduates, and $21,881 for graduate students, minus any financial aid that has been awarded. The $300 Universal Access Fee allows full access to all campus shops and computer facilities and will be added to the tuition amount."

post more

This construction is not better than Hampton’s.

Hampton is overrated as fuck

>>3183739
That's insane. Artists don't make the money to be able to pay it off in any reasonable amount of time.

>>3183926
Except they do. You almost never hear anyone from art center complaining after because they get secured jobs and make a ton of cash.

>how can I learn this
Have you tried actually trying to fucking learn it you loser?

>>3183933
>tfw read that in vilppu's voice

>>3183933


yes

>>3183931
What's your source for this claim?

>>3183327
>>3183334
>>3183375
>>3183383
>>3183392

LOOOL, god all your bitter whining is so fucking sad. Even if you had the funding of rich parents, you couldn't keep up with the courseload anyways.

Think about where you are; fucking 4chan, in a thread bitching about how unfair it is only rich gooks can go to a top art college.

Fucking sad, y'all don't have the brain power, discipline, or the skill to do anything with your lives. Keep bitching about gooks who aren't any much different than you other than their discipline and goals. They aren't much different from me, I actually work.

obligatory " NGMI "

>>3183672
Rofl, you think the apes that make and frolic in these threads actually work? They're too busy blaming every single external factor like the manchildren they are

>>3184059
>Even if you had the funding of rich parents, you couldn't keep up with the courseload anyways.

If I had rich parents I wouldn't be on /ic/ period. What a stupid comparison. Not even going to waste my time addressing the rest of your post with "rofl" as a (you) is most likely your goal.

>>3184063
rofl, if you had a BRAIN you'd be off practicing instead of bitching about not getting into art school.

The dumbest thing to complain and even think about. that's what you do.

u r a loser

>>3184069
>u r a loser

I know you are but what am I?

>>3183739
cant you just like, go to community college to get the first two years done?(community college is literally free if you qualify for financial aid)
and then go to art center with financial aid and scholarships(if you don't get a scholarship you were probably never going to make it anyway).

Then it would only be like 30k for a degree from art center.

>>3184073
I don't understand how people here can apply for both financial aid AND scholarships. Like are you poor and good? What kind of weird ass combination is that?

>>3184073
My brother got a scholarship to art center, and his stuff was decent, nothing amazing.

Not like it matters though, you still have to pay an arm and leg, scholarship only covers like 30%.

>no mention of loomis in this thread

sometimes you think your opinion of this place couldn't drop any lower, and yet, it happens

>>3184087
yeah its actually really not that hard to get small scholarships like that. When I went to community college they showed off peoples work that got full scholarships to schools like RISD and it was all okay, like obvious student work though. /ic/ just creates absolutely ridiculous standards.

>>3184078
Are you joking? I started school late (24) and with a low income, which automatically qualified me for financial aid. After finishing my first semester the college started giving me an extra $600 per semester in an art scholarship because my grades are decent.

You can't choose what kind of family or financial situation you're born into, before going to college I would use my extra money from working full-time to do nighttime figure drawing at an art center.

>>3184059
You're deriding me personally because you don't like what I have to say about the state of enrolment.

The argument is cut and dry: these schools are priced out hard and the only people who can get in there are the obscenely rich newly minted Beijing class because they have the means to send their kids early on to get professional training and pay for their school without so much as blinking at the price. The rest are forced to saddle up upwards of $200k to $250k of debt before they can even start to pay it of.

The only way they could do this is if they have an influx of students who are able to pay, which they do. Which is why the student body is heavily biased towards the Beijing class.

Having said that, public education institutions have strict enrolment quotas to combat this issue, but I don't think ArtCenter has them.

Mind you i speak from experience - I went to school with these people and for some of them I'm their boss.

>>3184108
I'm calling out people who incorrectly believe that what's holding them back from learning information like this is the cost of tuition to a college like art center; There's nothing there that you can't find yourself through videos/books/tutorials/and going to workshops hosted by great artists.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I already know how insanely expensive art center is, but to blame the cost of tuition for not being able to learn this is ignorant and lazy

>>3183334
You are the White people equivalent of "we wuz kangz and shiet".

>>3184116
I completely agree with you, although I do think the majority of the would-be working artist class is priced out and are further forced to essentially figure it out on their own. It's crystal clear in hindsight as usual.

Although it's not to say I hold Art Center on a pedestal, they do have good instructors. My concern is that the trend will lead to a position where the jobs don't pay all that well and the schools across the board are priced so if you aren't rich, you aren't getting in.

This is already the case in a handful of other fields, although they do command far more respect professionally than artists do.

Which again is just twisting the knife for a lot of students.

>>3183257
I got friends who went to Art Center but had to drop out because of costs. They ended up making it. One of them worked on Guardians of the Galaxy.

Something to think about.

>>3184136
How good were they upon applying? Did they start out okay but just saw intense exponential growth during their education?

A lot of ACCD alumni I come across don't show much of their pre-entrance work and their senior year skill levels were already pro-tier.

>>3184108
I can attest to the lax enrollment standards they have. The average age of entering freshmen has been getting lower and lower and the tuition has been going up. While there are still students making quality work, there are also a shitton of extremely young students making terrible Tumblr-tier artwork. There has also been more of a noticeable push for social justice bullshit on campus as I've seen people bitch about the majority "old, white, and male" faculty on campus and the school being deemed too "conservative" for an art school. I don't see it being a quality institution for long with this sort of trend happening.

>>3184145
It's as if...the school doesn't make the artist. Who woulda thunk it

Standards have dropped everywhere across the board. Free $$ from idiots is too juicy to pass up

>>3184142
They were good already but somehow got even better. I wanted to compare their progress but they removed their older work.

>>3184145
Is this about Art Center in particular? I thought they would be immune.

Does this mean Scott Robertson is due for rape charges soon???

>>3184164
Yes. I've also already heard of students making claims of sexual harassment and racism from faculty. These claims all seem to be unsubstantiated though. It's mostly certain illustration and fine arts students that seem to bring this shit up the most.

>>3183257
It's nearly the same shit, dude. Drawn better but the principles are the same, get back to drawing retard.

>>3184178
Holy fuck. Brace yourselves /ic/ they are going after Rey Bustos

>>3183257
>blame your teachers
>blame the books
>blame your tools
>blame your genetics
>blame neuroplasticity
>blame the medium
>blame /ic/

At what point do you pathetic motherfuckers stop whining and bitching and realize that your are the ones to blame for your own incompetence?
A $300 tablet won't make you draw better, a $50 mechanical pencil won't make you draw better and there's not a single magic tutorial that will suddenly turn you into Da Vinci.

>>3183392
I want to kill myself
This is student level??? It looks like a pro to me.

>>3184470
Don't get discouraged - awhile back it was more or less pro level, see image.

Practice your perspective, draw architecture and i'm confident you will make it anon.

>>3184412
the point of these complaints, asides from the meme ones, is that circumstances like money, teachers, environment, country of origin, etc are beyond one's control.
At most they can work inside that framework, making it harder or aesier to achieve wathever they personally consider as making it.

>>3184470
>>3184477


It's just boxes with details in isometric perspective.

>>3184470
This really isn't representative of student work there. Trust me, there's A LOT of student work there that is not that up to par. The student body is at a various skill levels. It also depends on the department you want to go into. The entertainment design department has higher standards for entrance portfolios and only accepts 15 people every term so the work that comes out of there is usually pretty good. The illustration department is more open for applicants and has its own entertainment track for people who are more interested in designing for animation/tv.

>>3184486
I wonder what things were like when Feng Zhu was attending. Way more affordable I bet.

>Hampton doesn't even light a candle to this.

This is pretty much Hampton. It's just presented in a way that's more appealing to you.

Stay the course, take what you've learned, and try it yourself,

>>3184477
Thanks for the tip I'm working on these, I've been doing it for 3 months now and it looks easy but it is actually really hard (at least for me)
It's so boring to learn all the fundamentals of every little thing anyway.. I'm getting closer to the end of this torture everyday.. Can't wait to be able to draw nice thing with ease.

>>3184486
15 people ? Holy shit this is serious.. I didn't know that

>>3184515
>I've been doing it for 3 months now and it looks easy but it is actually really hard (at least for me)
Have you done drawing (the practice kind) prior to the 3 months?

>>3184523
Yes I used to draw lot of symbolic drawings but I realized that I need more construction and depth knowledge/visualization so I started doing some perspective

>>3184526
Carry on.