/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3182486
Who is this artist??

>>3182486
Want to learn to draw like the old masters?

I'm here to help you along the way,
Here are some resources to get you started, no real reading required here

Charles Bargue Drawing Course PDF
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9LugJ4DrjW9YXc1Q0VnVWVXdFk/view?usp=drivesdk

(Try download it, and copy one image as is from the pdf and upload here) its better if your print the image

Guide to the course ( how to do it)
https://youtu.be/Pj5F2y2dXUU

Upload your attempts and I'll attempt to help. Ill upload more resources later to help you get closer to becoming a master.

>>3182487
Not sure it was done by a student, https://marshagilliam.com that's where I got the photo

>>3182486
Challenge - Draw this

>>3182488
the old masters didn't use sight size methods http://mrartroom.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/5/4/29546293/concerning_the_sight-size_method_.pdf

>>3182591
According to a website "One of the goals of the course is to teach you to estimate distances, angles, and relationships with your eye. Some students use a pencil, a knitting needle, a taut piece of string, or a plumb line—held with outstretched, locked arms and one eye closed—in order to more accurately measure the distances between certain points on the model and on their paper. This practice requires that you always look at the drawing or object from exactly the same unvarying position. Some students also use a ruler or an angle with a protractor, which may save hours of frustration. However, you should train your eye to estimate these distances without recourse to tools." TLDR so basically you're right anon. But its an easy way to learn and to depict accurately there's no harm in that is there?

A text guide is presented here
http://www.ingetang.com/praxis/bargue-gerome-drawing-course-preface-and-acknowledgements/#Public_Controversy_Over_Teaching_Materials

>>3182591
Replied without reading your link, humble apologies. Well then I'll try using the comparative method with just my eyes. Have you read the book by Harold Speed the practice and science of drawing?

>>3182488
It's best to use your eyes and eyeball the plates, the method suggested with the video will disadvantage you in the long run anons

>>3182620
this, it's a great starting point. i started out with a pretty elaborate grid but toned it down with each new drawing and am now at a point where i only need a bit help getting the size of the head right, which always fucks me over. after that i can eyeball the vast majority and only check with a ruler when i am super unsure and have already laid down the line just to check if i was correct

>>3182664
Would you mind letting us see

>>3182680
well these aren't the newest ones, but the ones i have scanned in already. i think you can see how i reduced the gridcount from one to the other. and with each new one i am reducing it more and more

>>3182486

>>3182486
LIST OF RESOURCES

Supplementary reading material (YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THIS) good for bedtime stories
I found the books helpful along my way of trying to discover the techniques used by the old master's. It's more like a nice art story book (doesn't contain girls as nice as Loomis though)

The elements of Drawing: In Three Letters to Beginners by John Ruskin
https://archive.org/download/elementsdrawing00ruskgoog/elementsdrawing00ruskgoog.pdf

Harold Speed the practice and science of drawing

https://archive.org/download/practicescienceo00speerich/practicescienceo00speerich.pdf

Young artist's assistant; or, Elements of the fine arts, this provides a all in one combo

https://archive.org/download/youngartistsassi00enfiuoft/youngartistsassi00enfiuoft.pdf

Classical Drawing Altier
https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://anatomiaartistica.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/juliette-aristides_classical-drawing-atelier.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwim-eHstYfXAhWC0xoKHX2sD7gQFgglMAA&usg=AOvVaw0OMELntRZVuh-18qIOSx6-

And these mainly relate to old art methods used. Not new stuff.

http://m.goldcoastartclasses.com/?url=http://www%2Egoldcoastartclasses%2Ecom%2F100-best-free-art-e-books%2Ehtml#2920

>>3182801
That's absolutely marvellous.

>>3182801
Are you going to render them? Can't just give up half way, you're close but you need to fetch that young cigar

>>3182927
there are no renders for the people, but i did render the hand and had a really hard time since i need to press like a maniac to make shit dark with my 2b pen. also the white paper is throwing me off, wish i had toned one handy. confuses the hell out of me when everything is already the brightest value instead of being closer to 50/50

>>3182931

Why press hard? Check what this guy does in the first bit of his video https://youtu.be/9W80Lz0PNSI regarding your need for toned paper https://youtu.be/Nz8IljXPTtA

Hope this helps anon

>>3182966
gonna give it a look, thanks