/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

good thread

>>3171880
internet was so much better when there truly weren't any women in it

I'll just reply here.
>>3171834
haha dont worry. not giving up on you guys yet. have been on /ic for the last 5 years on and off. and this kinda behaviour is expected. Its kinda nice though, ppl will simply speak their mind. also makes for some intresting critiques! Yeah zbrush is a really good tool to learn, very versatile! id get the alex figini tutorial from learnedsquared. it has alott of info, very helpfull. for me i tend to use maya for hardsurfuce modelling and zbrush for organic. maya seems more simple to me, better to set up composition/perspective and stuff. zbrush has so many tools i find it hard to know when and where to use them. yet when mastered i dont think there is any program that can rival z-brush in the versatility department, maybe 3d coat.

>>3171839
thanks ill prolly do that. have to be carefull with the contrast tho
>>3171835
Nowadays i try to do page layouts, since at most studios they print out your stuff and put it on a wall so the whole team can look at it. the layout adds a little tiny bit imo, which might make the diffrence.also could print the bunch of layouts as a book to send to potential clients. Here's the mock up layout

>>3172011
actual photobashed garbage
you should seriously just consider suicide if you think this is in any way acceptable

wreck me?
>>3172080
those brush strokes

>>3172015

acceptable to who? you?

>>3172145
to basic standards of art maybe
but hey, you can keep shitting the bed. in the end you are the one who wont be able to draw a fucking line without copying and pasting it from somewhere. you are the absolute biggest faggot imaginable, anon.

General question IC is working grey scale to color a mistake? I always feel like I hit a brick fucking wall at the coloring stage. Allows me to never finish illustrations, and I'm trying to cut that shit out moving forward.
>>3172011
How can I follow you?

did three still lifes today, gonna post two cause one wasn't very good

>>3172181

>>3171933
women are people too

>>3172180
anon, a lot of people can actually color from greyscale, but i personally find it really difficult. my advice is, start with color blocking first and then make a layer over your color layer, fill it black and set it to "saturation" it will show you a greyscale version of the colors youre using. so if you regularly check that layer, you should see the values of the colors

>>3171933
>balding, single fat 30 year old who lives with his parents

I have 20 traditional paintings/drawings as homework for next week of university , and here I am doing digital

>>3172233
Jesus how'd you let all that stack up?

>>3172233
its missing some very crisp hard edges to make it more interesting imo. values are alright though.

>>3172202
>actually handsome 30 year old living with parents

>>3172237
I didnt, we got 15 drawing for our "graphics" ( dk how you say it in english )class/subject yesterday ,then we got 5 for some other shit that I cant pronounce in english and autoportrait for anatomy class , so I guess 21 not 20

>>3172238
I experimented a tiny bit with some photoshop settings sharpness/contrast/noise , it makes it a little better now I think

>>3172251
drawings are nothing assignments, you could do that in 10 hours of work, how many paintings do you have to do? just the self portrait?

>>3172157
Wow someone pooped in your fruit loops this morning? Or are you just cranky cuz you didn't get to take a nap after watching cartoons?

>>3172288
Yeah but its kind of our first home assignment and i dont want to do shitty drawings just to be done sooner, it ok its at the end of the week so i have 5days to do them

>>3172364
don't do shitty drawings to be done sooner, try to get in the mindset of just doing drawings everyday, and loosly follow the prompts for the assignments. You should be working at a pace double what they are expecting of you anyways. I've got to do 20 paintings this month, but I want 20 good paintings, so I'm probably going to do 30 or 40 paintings. And when I'm not painting I'll be drawing. This is a job, treat it like one.

>>3172369
you know who else makes promises? presidents.

>>3172369
good like with paintigs

>>3172371
hitler did both

>>3172181
I fucking despise you, with a passion, I hate you so much, I think you're a charlatan, a cocky stuck up cunt, but I want to have one of your still lifes, fucking God knows why

>>3172426
i mean i sell them for like $150-$600 depending on my mood... I probably believe in my charlatanism more than anyone, and price my paintings accordingly.

>>3172439
also nobody buys them

>>3172426
>>3172439
t. samefag

>>3172464
not samefag, but even if i was just let me talk to myself. it hurts nobody.

>>3172271
>>3172273
>>3172278
>>3172574
ayy yo gimme that tumblr

>>3172578

http://grantsru.tumblr.com/

>>3172181
>>3172182
Oops!

t. Simon

>>3172574
Bro I swear to god I thought those drawings were mine I drew like you 5-6 months ago

>>3172608
Brian is way way better. Not by miles. By light years ahead

>>3172632
sure you are, brian :^)

>>3172251
I really really dig this, do you go to art school?

>>3172588
thanks man followed

plugging plugging...

>>3172251
what do you do so your brush makes something like pic related ?

>>3172724
I'm in love with the drapery of the dress.

>>3172724
>>3172724
this looks like a photobash the dress and the piano look so real but the faces dont have the same effect they look flat

something feels off about the face

>>3172675
Yeah i just started this year, they didnt take me in last year, thing is where i live there are no schools for digital so I have to do that in spare time while doing traditional fundies there

>>3172730

I download bunch of brushes and experiment, for this one I took texturised brushes from some artist and disabled texture effect so I was left with strangley edged brush but it made soft strokes instead of rough texture

>>3172180
Yeah i have a instagram i tend to post on
https://www.instagram.com/thmsvis/
otherwise my artstation https://www.artstation.com/reach-designs

>>3172888
your GOT structures and animals are definitely your strong suit.

People? Not so much.

bump

>>3172888
lol fag.

>>3172777
Good to know, I'll try to fix them

>>3172180
LET'S ALL LOVE LAIN

>>3173046
can you hear my heart beating like a hammer?

So, today I took the time to make a bunch of rendering tests. While doing this, I wasn't concerned with anything else other than to get some brush work that felt nice, and I think I did in the end, but I have a question:

How do artists make those super smooth transitions between colors, as in the picture on the bottom left? I've been trying for a while to get something along those lines, but I simply can't.

Are they just really good at blending things out, or is it just a case of using a big airbrush and masking and painting and masking and painting and masking...?

looking for crit on this self portrait

>>3173232
stick to still lives rich boi

>>3173236
im rich now?

>>3173237
If I'd known that I would've moved out of my parents house years ago

>>3173237
You heard me, Moneybags. Now have your driver escort you to the nearest Whole Foods so you can assemble your latest organic fruit and vegetable arrangement quickly so you can get back to painting already.

>>3173246
Bitch I buy my fruit at Walmart like a damn American!

>>3173248
You can't fool us, Brian Comfortistein.

I hope this one is done soon

>>3173268
italians are basically just jews but stupid. that checks out.

Wip

>>3172724
Good job, great materials.
But why is there a gradient on their faces ? Work with planes of the face and remove some contrast. Also, right arm on that girl looks stiff.

>>3173303
The animal is definitely over-rendered, and doesn't seem to fit into the scene as well as it should. Consider simplifying the darker values on the animal.

>>3173303
Love it. Can I ask your colouring method for this one?

>>3173477
Yeah, I've realized that and was messing around with the values before. Definitely will take care of that

>>3173579
Thanks. It's all with one brush, did a value sketch before, then some gradient mapping and color overlays. From there basically roughing out forms and getting more into detail.

I've done this

as u can see, im evolving

>>3173839
You fell for the construction anatomy line weight inking imagination meme

>>3173844
i dont get it wdym

>>3173865
Everything anons have told you is important is wrong

>>3173870
then what do i do to improve further??

>>3173886
buy a fucking pencil and some fruit and start drawing it. god you people are so retarded

anyways i drew this when the sun was going down. I was basically in the dark... It's very hard to get the blue light at dusk convincingly in a painting. I imagine there's a better way to do it than just mixing blue into everything.

>>3173897
i dont know like

what does fruit do even

>>3173910
come on man... im giving up on telling you guys this. just draw from life. look at something and draw it. if you're terrible at it you're probably not actually a good artist yet. congrats you can draw some body parts from memory of photos you've copied. who gives a shit. learn to actually fucking draw instead.

>>3173913
i draw myself all the time, but i know the anatomy to exaggerate my drawings- i havent drawn from photo reference in forever, i just dont know what the fruits for

>>3173913
congrats, you can copy what's in front of you.

>>3173915
>i know the anatomy
there's that meme again

whatever
>>3173916
If I did that /ic/ and reddit would probably like me more. I don't copy though, I make art.

>>3173929

>I make art

:O

>>3171880
That drawn picture of the woman in ops pic would look really great if it were a caricature and had her side nose flaps more exaggerated.

Character for a friend's thing.

I have a hard time spotting my own mistakes anymore, someone tell me how to git gudder.

>stop mirroring shit
I know, but I'm lazy.

>>3173929
WHATS WRONG WITH KNOWING ANATOMY WTF?????

>>3173963
because at that point you are memorizing and symbol drawing. If you want to draw a person, find a person and draw them. Stop being a raging autist who can't talk to other people.

>>3173964
normal people look boring though

>>3173967
nobody looks boring, you're just a bad artist

>>3173977
bad example cus his boring normal person body is under a bunch of clothes- and his ear is a gaping red hole

>>3173981
so you can't paint clothes either, huh? good to know. Wow you're hitting all the marks of a fake /ic/ artist

>>3173984
ur thing is like that u paint vegetables or something like idk. who the fuck are u bro?

>>3173986
dropped

Brian and you other fuccbois, stop taking up posts in the thread

>>3171880

>>3173996
gimme blog reeeeee

>>3174002

http://grantsru.tumblr.com/

>>3172011
I'm wondering if the effects ontop might be too much the effects too much?

>>3173996
Zedig comes to mind, cool work!

>>3174082
garbage

>>3173310

If my art had perspective as good as this posts' I'd be a fucking master.

bump

>>3174082
i like it, good job the effect are just right

Since the porn thread is mainly shitposting.

I know the face is too wide, gimme all the fuckups.

>>3171880
Is it time to blend or should I block in more?
Where's a good guide for this?
Started blending on the right, blocked in on the left.

>>3173945
I like the style a lot but I dislike the character design... it reminds me of osmosis jones...
>>3174082
I cannot even figure out where that close up is on the compositon.

>>3174800
its on her foot are you blind or something nigger?

>>3174800
its of his foot, are you blind or something nigger?

>>3174890
The guys arn't in the same position and I can hardly tell that there's an opening on his foot because there's so much noise and its so small compared to the other elements in the composition.
how I am I supposed to notice that when there's a beam 200 times the size of the spot direclty beside it?
I still literally can't even see it when you say that
This is getting ridiculously overworked, just fucking call it done and move on. Its a good painting but its not your ultimate masterpiece so just fucking move on

>>3172080
Good job, xeroxnigger.

>>3174797
Nope, block in more. Your values in the midtones and shadows are pretty light, I'd go in and fix that before rendering. Also, before rendering you should clean up your shadow shapes more. Oh, and please clean up your outer edges for every form (and fill in your background COMPLETELY. I see white spots in the top and bottom corners as well as showing through near the neck, hair, shoulder, among other places!!). You have no idea how many times you can fool someone into thinking a block-in sketch looks professional just because you cleaned up your shit man lol. It looks like you started rendering the face early, stop that. Make sure everything progresses at the same pace or you will get stuck rendering something to hell and making it look out-of-whack compared to everything else.

Good luck. You're on the right track but work more confidently and cleanly.

>>3174951

>>3174956

>>3174082
lol a homosexual giant with a fawxhawk.

Also, you used pic related as a copy for your giant fag.

>>3174968
LOL! Oh wait. Also.

WTF DOES A GIANT FAGGOT NEED WITH TATOOS OF SUGAR SKULLS?!

WHO THE FUCK WOULD DO THE TATTOOING?! A bunch of normal humas with mutiple tattoo guns? Or, "HEY LET'S BUILD A GIANT TATTOO GUN FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS CAUSE OUR GIANT FAG WNATS SOME INK".

I'm being ridiculous right? Well, that's your stupid painting. Fucking ridiculous.

anything to fix?

pic taken with my phone

>>3174983
>anything to fix?
Everything. Learn to paint in values (greyscale) first before going into color.

>>3174983
that is quite disgusting, especially the greenish baby shit you smeared right corner with

did a still life

>>3174998
and this one. if anyone can crit these i'd appreciate it.

>>3174988
lol you must have a very limited understanding of color if you cant understand how i experimented with color in this painting and cant give any advice that builds on what ive done and the style i pursued, instead saying i should abandon this style altogether and start over with greyscale?

the first rule of critique is that you should respect the choice of style or subject matter by the artist

to provide a good critique you need to build on what has already been attempted in the art rather than giving some "advice" that is completely unrelated to the style or subject.

>>3175016
Oh and here I thought you were posting here because you wanted to get better. But it's just another "muh style" shitposter. Look, you can take it or leave it, sorry you're so insecure that you got severely triggered bro, if you're that fragile you shouldn't be posting here.

There are no rules to critique, by the way. As an artist you have to put your shit out there, and then take away the useful information when people shit all over your work, and leave what you don't find useful. If you find nothing useful, then you're an art god or you're a close-minded defensive faggot. Either way, your skill is going to plateau until you figure out what you're doing wrong and how to fix it. Pretty difficult to do when you can't swallow your pride and take attacks on your artwork as attacks on yourself. Good luck with that, bud.

Ignore this fag before he shits up the thread any more, guys. He's not worth the effort. Just another chumbum.

>>3174998
>>3174999

Pretty good start, anon. These look like they're still stuck in the beginning block-in stage, though. Your forms are solid, colors seem fine, however I think your shadows need to be a little more defined, especially on those purple things. I'm not even sure what those are supposed to be. It looks like you're trying to put in reflections a little bit early, so instead try blocking in and blending the colors and shadows underneath the reflections first, then put them in last. Also, you did well to follow the form of the apple on the right in the bottom picture, I'd like to see you do that with the other fruit as well. Your brushstrokes show the form of the object, so you're going to want to paint as if you're following the form of the object in real life (like painting on an actual apple or plum or whatever that thing is), if that makes sense.

Keep going though, I really want to see what you do with these studies. Try to take one, even if it's not these, all the way to completion (from bock-in to blending to rendering and details). It's good practice and shows you where you're fucking up in your process, so if you have bad construction and get confused in the rendering stage you know what to work on next time.

>>3175029
boy no wonder you gave such an ignorant response to my work cuz you are definitely ignorant. there are rules to critique - they are exactly the one i pointed out. you must respect the choice of style and subject the artist has chosen. You are so ignorant beyond belief.

It's like this. Lets say I made a concept art for a sci fi game. And your response is "concept art is not art. go learn impressionism or anime style." wtf???

that is exactly the type of response or advice you gave me.

i did figurative abstraction that involves experimentation with color. if you knew anything about color you would tell me whats working and whats not. but you tell me to do greyscale which means translating what you see into values with consistent structure. wtf???

wtf??? it has nothing to do with emotional and experimental aspects of color, how color is relative and depending on surrounding colors a particular color will look completely different from whats not there in the subject of reference and the expetimental colors will substitute just as well for the realistic style of colors and give rise to a recognizable figure without the use of realistic style and colors.

if you think crit is all about shitting up on other people's art, it just shows you are not even a real artist you just pretend to be one and give "critique" aka shitting on ppl's art. Not. A. Critique.

of course you are like this cuz you are ignorant as hell both on the rules of critique as well as something basic like color theory

some tough loser on the internet. pffft

>>3175064
Hey man, you do you. Not gonna argue cause logic (not to mention my time and effort) will be wasted on you. If you want to broadcast your insecurities all over 4chan at least go over to the feels thread.

Just a tip for the future, if you're going for something in particular or want critique on a certain feature of your work, you need to mention it in your initial post next to your art. There are rules to critique, haven't you heard?

Later, fag. Have a nice life.

>>3174781
The angle of the facial features don't match up with the angle of the skull. The head is not making contact with the arm/hand, it's sort of floating? Even if she is laying on her horn I imagine her forearm would still rest under her cheek for support. Ear should be showing on her left side, not on her right. Her neck is very long for the perspective you have her at. There's something off about her breasts but I can't quite place it. Her ribcage is bent strangely and out of proportion and perspective with her neck and collarbone. Same with her hips and giant thighs, they're also out of proportion and perspective.

Did you have any kind of photo reference for this?

>>3173945
Learn how to light faces properly. Also, lazy is no excuse. It's fine if you mirror things to get a general sense of what you're doing in the beginning, but perfectly mirrored faces are weird to look at. So even if you draw it mirrored, you can always grab something like an eye and shift it just slightly off from the others. You'd be disgusted by how asymmetrical some faces can be if you tried putting lines over them.

>>3175071
stop making stuff up. please tell me when i ever showed my insecurities? point to something i actually wrote.

you should be smart enough to know that just by looking at an artwork what that artist was going for with the subject and the style. it should be obvious to you. do you look at art and have someone tell you what that artist was going for? cant you figure it out on your own at least the basic intent of the artist who made it?

again its like i made concept art and asked for crit and you are like "concept art is not artn those colors are artificial, try academic traditional painting instead"

and then i tell you your crit sucks cuz you should talk about concept art not something unrelated

then you say " you shoulda told me to talk about concept art stuff. rules remember? fag have nice life"

i am like wtf

>>3174968
>>3174978

let it all out anon....

>>3175087
i am

>>3175049
yeah they're plums. The loose, thicker style seems to work well on people and fruit that mimic skin, but painting peaches and plums today I noticed how hard it is to translate their textures into blocky brushstrokes.

I bet if I had some tutorial on how furry artists make skin look like matted fur that'd help with peaches.

The dusty bloom on plums and grapes always gives me trouble, but I think it's more a process thing than a fault of the way I'm painting. I was painting the waxy parts of the plum on top of already wet, darker paint, so it makes it look like the plums have a million highlights instead of bloom.

Thanks for the critique, I think the thing I need to work on is really seperating every color into a form, and not painting on top of wet paint. That's just a habit I need to get into. I like painting in one layer so that's what I'm practicing, but I need to truly do it in one layer, and not mostly one layer with paint sloppily laid on top of it for some parts. I need to really do just one layer.

I'll practice that tomorrow.

>>3175080
no photo reference, already redoing it. It looks fucking uncanny

>>3174999
I hate you Brian but these plums(?) look amazing

>>3175085
not the dude your arguing with, but your stuff is just random colors in vomit-like arrangement. there is no shape to it either, it doesnt read good at all. If there is a concept behind this, i would like to hear it

>>3175144
>plums(?)
yeah its the (?) i need to work on lol

Just started this. Is the composition working?

>>3174983
there's parts where you are trying to do complementary colors like the red on green foot.

and parts where you're trying to do analogous colors like the arm that transitions from green to yellow to red

and parts where you're trying to do neither where there are colors like teal and yellow next to each other, or orange next to green, which is about as unharmonious as you can get.

You seem to have no concrete theory behind the colors being used. Seems completely arbitrary.

If you could explain exactly what this color theory is, and why you feel so strongly about it, I'd love to know, because honestly it seems like you are just putting down random colors all over the place.

Finally finished

first page of the day done

>>3175227
seems kinda pointless, anon... not gonna lie. good blog advertisement, kind of nothing in terms of practice though

>>3175233

I get plenty of practice when I'm constructing the forms, gaining confidence with the pen, working with line economy, etc. so I would beg to differ

>>3175236
i guess?

>>3175193
I put Red 1 and Yellow 1 adjacent to each other (rather than putting down an orange in place of Yellow 1) because orange partially contains red in it, and doing so wouldn't differentiate the colors enough and too much red anywhere is jarring to the eyes/disharmonious.

And in actuality, with additive color mixing, the opposite color of Red is Cyan, not Green. Putting red and green near each other (Red 1 & Green 1) suggested a bias towards yellow, so it makes sense that I put down Yellow 1 in between Red 1 and Green 1.

White 1 is surrounded by warm colors (Red 1, Yellow 1, Orange 1, Pink 2, and Yellow 2) so it naturally appears cool relative to these warm colors. (Going from warm colors to white is the same direction as going from warm colors to cool colors) White 1 also serves to desaturate the area which is abundant with mostly pure warm colors.

Pink 2 serves as a transition between red 1 and white 1.

Red being naturally dark color (relative to other colors) that pops out is a good way to demarcate a border or edge of figure.

Green 1 is adjacent to Orange 3 to demarcate border between the underside of her breast/rib and her belly/stomach. Alternative color, red, would be too abrupt of transition to green and also too dark, and yellow would be too bright and too smooth/indiscernible of a transition from Green 1.

Transition from Red 4 to Orange 3 suggests there is a highlight in Orange 3 because orange is naturally brighter color than red.

Teal 1 (by teal I mean bright sky blue with green shade) makes transition through Turquoise 2 to Yellow 5 in the style of adjacent colors blue green yellow, getting brighter each step.

It turns darker as it nears Black 2 (actually a very dark blue pigment). That transition between Black 2 and Yellow 5 is Orange 5.

Red 5 transitions into Yellow 4 via Orange 4.


The whites (White 1, 2, 3, and 4) and darks (Black 1, 2 and Blue 1, 2, 3) were placed rhythmically alternating between left and right of the figure.

>>3175248
Thanks for not answering the question at all. I'm so much more confused now. Just tell me what the fuck color theory you are trying to use

>>3174781
Blog?

>>3175252
R + G = Y
R + B = M
G + B = C
The secondary colors can also be added to make up primary colors:
M + Y = R
C + Y = G
M + C = B
In further detail, Blue is the inversion of Red and Green; Green is the inversion of Red and Blue; and Red is the inversion of Green and Blue combined:
B = -(R + G) = -Y
G = -(R + B) = -M
R = -(G + B) = -C
This can be further proved in the following:
R + G = Y
R + B = M
M + Y = R
M + Y + B = M
B = -Y

>>3175264
jesus dude. you know the point of art is to make something pretty right? not solve quantum mechanical equations

>>3175264
>>3175248
If the colors look bad, they're bad. No amount of nonsensical explanation can change that. Just stick to simpler color palettes, you need to know the rules before you break them

thoughts?
face looks odd

>>3175199
ah you look like one of istabrek's students. Are you?
>>3174951
Hey thanks a lot Anon!
I'll fix all that shit and come back a little later and hopefully it will be ready to blend.

>>3175327
Thoughts?
I THINK it's fucking garbage, dude. The whole thing looks odd, because you're not good.

did another still life trying to limit overworking areas. still not quite getting the plums right, but this one came out pretty.

>>3175365
That is not critique, please elaborate
I already know I'm bad nibba

>>3175442
He said thoughts, not critique, you fucking faggot.

>>3175443
And I asked him to elaborate on his thoughts

>>3175085
why are you so in denial
art isn't for you anon

Something I made for inktober and then colored

Another thing

>>3175064
I cringed

>>3174983
Your sense of anatomy isn't good, so please go study it. The painting feels flat and the woman doesn't feel apart of the background because she doesn't hold the same perspective as it. I think instead of splotching random colors everywhere, you should go with the flow of how muscles work and "work with the grain of the wood, not against it". But again, you'll need to study anatomy to get ahold of it.
Also, study color theory or whatever the fuck, because you can't just slob colors together and call it a day, they need to work with each other.

>>3175482
I like this, very Dragonball-ish. Great work, anon!

>>3172180

I tried to colorize the greyscale so many times, just can't do it so I'm just painting over it. Waste of time honestly. Thoughts so far? I suck at coloring

>>3173964
>>3173929
>>3173897
Brian, it's time to chill. Your ego is showing again...

>>3175180
I like this a lot, but I really hate the grey lines. If you plan on having line art in the final please make it black. But otherwise, I like how loosey goosey this is

>>3175443
>>3175365
Jeez someone pooped in a few people's cereal this morning eh? lol

Anyway here's another update to this dumb picture. Still lots to do.

>>3175688
forgot pic:

1/4

>>3175264
too much over intellectualized bs, too little painting and observation

>>3175583
Thank you so much :)

>>3175691
Very nice values, I love it

I thought I'd do one of those things where you redraw an older drawing once you're a bit older/more technically advanced.

This is from 2006, when I was 15 and in the full grasp of a weeb phase.

>>3175814
This is from today. I haven't advanced anywhere near as much as I could have because there's like an 8 year gap where I just stopped drawing altogether. I've only really just started back up again, but it feels good to be back on the horse after so long.

>>3175820

Your drawing at 15 is way more appealing than your now.

>>3175836
Sure, if you like bargain-bin Clamp knock-offs where the author tries to stealthily hide hands to unconvincingly disguise the fact that they've never looked at an anatomy book in their life.

I am trying to sit down and actually study anatomy. is it a good idea to jump back and forth between muscle groups and bones, instead of focusing on the hand for a week and then move to the arms, etc.?
this can get overwhelming very quick

>>3176002
>actually wasting brain space on the names
lmao yea id like to commission a drawing of a girl with the focus on her tibula pectorialis, and add a little extra meat on the abdula longitudus.

>>3176005
that's a little shortsighted, memorizing some of the important parts help me navigate and connect the dots.

>>3172131
stop drawing waifus and work on your shading with simpler forms. this is way too complex for you at the moment.
you made her face flat as a wall.

>>3176012
post work or redline it

>>3176005
ngmi

>>3171880

Does anybody like my edge paint meme that I drew with my mouse?


>>3175482
>>3175483
love these two!

>>3175327
this is awesome

>>3175087
>assblasted

>>3176005
dude i swear ive been making this same joke for 5 years and nobody ever believes me that remembering that shit is a meme

The leg bones connected to the... hip bone... the hip bones connected to the... arm bone.

it's like the most extra'd out thing on this board that people do. That's why I end up leaving comments like >>3173844
cause "anatomy" to /ic/ artists just means memorizing names of bones.

Sketching digitally is hard

>>3176041
>7k
resizing isn't
cool sketch though

>>3176053
my bad

Does anyone else think that Brian refreshes these threads all day and comments on drawings out of spite? I can see him doing that between his fruit studies and stalking sessions.

>>3176068
black on black crime!

>>3176068
i don't really comment on people's stuff, but i definitely refresh this page 50-100 times a day

>>3173199
ahaha why do those breasts look like bananas? why do people draw them like that? do you have eyes? do you see what your reference looks like? lmao man keep it up with the banana breasts, feels good to know theres one more guy whos ngmi

I tried my hand at shading here. Kinda mucky, but any CC is more than welcome.

Am I chinese now?

Dune, any1

>>3176002

>>3176109
Turns out the tutorial relied too much on photobashing so I deviated from it, It was still well worth the price

https://gum.co/UhZU

>>3176109
Turns out the tutorial relied too much on photobashing so I deviated from it, It was still well worth the price

https://gum.co/UhZU

>>3175633
Overall, I like the background. The clothes could use less color, no need to overcompicate them.

And the face. Please, don't use so much shading, it now looks creepy as fuck. I liked it in greyscale a lot more, so two colors (normal + shadow) would do much better.

did another version of this composition

>>3175691
oh my <3
do more.

oil painting of scumbag jefferson

>>3176257
god, I wish you were a better painter cause the drawing is really funny...

>>3175691
2/4

I made a flower

>>3176245
I feel like you should cut or rip one of these fruits open for your composition, to have a nice change in texture or how the light interacts with the scene.

>>3176210
A cryss knife should not be drawn from its sheath without blood being drawn.

>>3176286
it cannot be sheathed without doing so. Maybe the blood is yet to be shed

>>3176284
With the way I paint that'd be borderline pornographic

>>3176293
>can't even paint fruit cut open
lmao what a retard

>>3176295
??? what ???

no im gonna give it a try tonight, imagine one of my still lifes with a wet, juicy peach ripped open. that'd be god damn sexy with my painting style.

>>3175327

Well basically:
-check your anatomy, It's not terrible but it's inconsistent in his shoulders even if it doesn't show
-What the hell is that cape, it makes no sense how it's holding on his head
-Boring design of his clothes: work on your silhouete even on the details (I was taught personally that from Alex Konstad)
-You draw the clothes like solid objects, give them some flow
-I don't know if you did, but the impossible cape is telling me that you didn't look for enought references. References will help you specially on where to put the details, like the belts, or the shoes strings
-I haven't painted this, but the colors are very dull, don't get scared to go saturated
-Learn to how to paint clothes
-There are more faults, but It's late here in Europe and I can't think straight anymore.

Good night

>>3176351
lmao this retard didn't fix shit, he basically just traced over it

>>3176351
Thanks a lot my dude, finally some good crit for once

Yeah I agree that the cape looks dumb, but I decided to go with it anyways and I don't know how to do clothes at all, but this is really helpful

>>3176368
Ok, Now that you say it it was unnecesary, I just wanted to show that his left shoulder is non existing and his hands are too big.

>>3172824
maybe make the eyeball a little bit bigger? seems just a touch small. really beautiful work though!

>>3173303
Perhaps try adding a little bit of green reflected light to the animal, like you have done on the trees in the foreground. It looks really nice but that addition might help the character feel more in place in his/her surroundings. Really great job man.

>>3176012
Yeah, it's a bit under rendered. But I can draw what I like and learn at the same time.

>>3173303
u should add more colours

give the trees fall colours perhaps

the split open fruit actually turned out pretty cool, im just too tired today to put anymore effort into this so i finished it up quickly.

Heres some faces from the other day.
R8 pls.

>>3176368
You're a fucking dumbass and a cunt to boot. He showed him tons of ways he could improve his work with the line work. A good visual guide to ways he could improve that particular piece. Fuckin' cunts like you need to be aborted. It's not even trolling your just a fucking bitch born cunt.

>>3176550
foreheads are consistently too short

I'm guessing you have a pretty small forehead yourself, so try to avoid looking in the mirror for extended periods of time until you get these proportions sorted out.

>>3176595
nah, kill yourself retard. the redline is hsit

>>3176611
Naw dude, He's right, you're just a cunt, nothing more

>>3176650
I'm the "redliner" and >>3176611 is right. He is talking about the REDline, which is useless. Not the "blackline"

>>3174983
>>3175016
>>3175064
>>3175248
>>3175264
Fucki9ng stubborn asshole. You made a damn mess where it's hard to see any shapes or forms. It took me few minutes to even tell "it's a she" and "she is sitting"! And i'm still not sure cuz i can't tell on what she is even sitting or any background what so ever! And now you complain when someone tells you it's shit?
Why the hell are you even learning this "art style" that everyone make when randomly mixing colors in palette, when you can't even made a basic figures right? Where is the fucking arms even?!
And this fucking face! Mb smaller brushes for smaller details? Or is it too un-stylish for you?!

If it's sopposed to look like chaotic mess then it's ideal masterpiece.

>>3176776
lol small details

you have limited understanding of abstract art my friend

>>3176776
arms are behind her hanging behind the chair

>>3176267
yes you did

>>3172157


>>3172180
This may help you https://youtu.be/kxqnXn1NGYI

>>3176257
Actual painting or digital, either way make more put Into and go to gallery and save the rest of the art world with your humour. Go make a name for yourself son.

>>3176257

>>3176263
this one is really good compared to the first's colors

>>3176351
Holy fuck I love that cloak

>>3176602
you almost fixed one, but made the other two almost worse. I don't think you should redline yet.

wanted to post this on the self portrait thread cause someone said i should draw myself w/o makeup but the eyes feel s o off

>>3177060
good start the measuring looks fine, this looks like the stage when you start to refine your lines and start to lock down forms.

>>3177067
aye aye cap'n
thank

>>3177060
i had trouble capturing your likeness too, but i think a lot of that just comes down to the reference you are using. You had to make up your forehead and the top of your hair, and the angle of your face is distorted, so immediately you are putting yourself in a tough position.

Is the anatomy too fucked up? I focused too much on getting a cool thumb+gesture+pose out of a quick sketch and I'm sure I probably threw anatomy out of the window.
Can I get a quick redline?

>>3177170
Blog?

>>3177170
this is really good. i dont think you have a lot of issues with the anatomy here desu, but thats just my opinion

>>3177176
artstation.com/enzofernandez
>tfw art is a creative field but you still can't think of an artist name

>>3177179
Really? thanks! I guess I've been worrying too much then. I always get stuck for days in the mindset of "something might be wrong and I have tunnel vision".

>>3177170
it works for the style. maaaaaybe tilting it a bit more to the right

>>3177170
This is real nice dude, my only real complaint is that the ledt hand looks too big, I think it's really noticeable because you put it right there beside the face

>>3177060
mamacita!

I don't like how the legs look. But I think I'm leaving it. Any crit on what I could improve on till next time is appreciated.

>>3177208
Cast shadow of the flying fish
It looks like it's just floating on the water, maybe because it's in perfect side view

>>3177214
I Painted a cast chadow. but I guess it's not very convincing. I agree that the fish could have been less flat it it wasn't in profile.

Drew a picture of Helga sodomizing an Ethiopian engineer.
Do you guys think I have potential as a children's books illustrator? c:

>>3175112
It seems you're so good you don't get any critique.
Maybe try committing a bit more, making something more finished. Or try a different medium, charcoal for example, which has a much broader value range. That should reveal more of your weaknesses.

>>3177228
Know what, I think the issue is because it's in the middle of the trajectory and horizontal, maybe if it was more at the beginning, diagonally, it may work better

>>3177208
Right deltoid really bothers me... Also that right arm does not look relaxed enough. Well done face though.

And fish looks kind of... Static? Motionless? Think it would look better if tilted a bit.

>>3176225
Thumbnail looks good but when zoom in... The edges aka highlighted parts and the delicious swirly flames don't look as good as the original, also the original put more emphasis on the occlusion shadows while yours look too much relied on the brushes. You think it worth the 2$?

>>3176012
He's never going to learn to shade a person if he doesn't do it. The only minor problem would be that it might take longer if you start practicing shading with people.

>>3177268
Yeah I think your right, thanks!

>>3177272
Thanks, I wasn't entily happy with the gesture either, should have looked at some references. appreciate the feedback senpai.

I did more to this. Brought it up to my current ideas for color theory. Doing analogous over complementary. Before this edit the light source on the side of my face was blue instead of pink.

>>3175691
>>3176263
3/4

>>3177500
blog pls

>>3175691
>>3176263
>>3177502
4/4

>>3177508

>>3174015
>>3172588

>>3177502
>>3177510
how about instead of pulling sliders around you spend that time making new pieces?

>>3177278
The original uses photos for both the metal and the flames, the flames is a photo directly pasted into the painting, the metal is part of a texture added through a soft light layer.

I honestly played down the occlusion shadows but perhaps I should have not.

As for the value of the video. I think it is well worth 2$, mostly for the process structure, block in, brushes and some nifty tricks with the dodge tool

>>3177128
its the least silly selfie i have without makeup D:
and my phone is broken
>>3177201
owo whats this ?

Anybody feel like sharing some advice? I'm new to /ic/ but I really wanna improve

>>3177599
rotate and resize

post in the beginner thread

>>3177600
Got it

>>3176927
too late

>>3177358
Would would you make yourself look like one of those retarded deformed babies with the huge eyes? I know you aren't that ugly, Brain.

>>3173897

lmao brian are you still painting still lives of apples and food :smilingcryingemoji:

i come back after a year and no progress...

quick ruan jia study

>>3172145
hahaha where is that pic from

Fuck you guys are scary.

>>3177686
>i come back after a year and no progress...
no no no im painting DIFFERENT fruit now. its totally different.

>>3177721
What'd you learn?

>>3177816
You've clearly studied lots of hands before, these are not only correct but also appealing as fuck my boy. Any tips in particular on approaching said studies?

>>3177721
Thumbnail magic.

>>3173897
You use greys not blues you idiot. The saturation goes down in the dark.

>>3172824
Nice work anon!

>>3177840
thanks ill try that tomorrow

>>3172271
>>3172273
>>3172278
Wish my sketchbook was that filled out Goddamn.

These are some five minute gestures from life. And one ten minute gesture too, the shitty face in the middle. Why did it take me longer to do worse? I didn't feel like I lost focus.

>>3177816
Who are you and where can I purchase your seminar

These are some 20s.

>>3177154
>anatomy/gesture is good
>that face tho

>>3178026
faces and how they work elude me. they are next on my list of things to learn.

>>3177839
you ain't lying. that looked so amazing as thumbnail.

>>3173678
>>3176210
Gimme something, fuckers
Clouds study from today

>>3178026

>implying the anatomy is good

Its about as messed up as the face.

>>3177819

Best thing is to do tons of gestures, and apply the same principles of full-figure gesturing to other parts of the body. Everything pinches and stretches around bone and muscle, so take that into consideration with your line.

>>3177941
https://grantsru.tumblr.com/ -> follow me if you like, I'll probably do more streaming in the near future.

>>3175016
>the first rule of critique is that you should respect the choice of style or subject matter by the artist

I bet you learned this in art school.

>>3172724
really good. you could be great one day
sword is bad
faces are slightly off, as the other anon said, less contrast
gesture is a bit lacking
you forgot his shoe
more detail is needed in some places
composition perhaps?
also as the other anon said the drapery on her dress is amazing

did a portrait today

>>3178466
changed the background

>>3177242
kek
GTKRWN

>>3178488
she is a handsome man

>>3178466
she will never love you brian

>>3178488

She look disgusted by something...

>>3178581
>>3178594
>>3178648
are you the same guy that said "normal people are too boring to paint"?

>>3177788
Some value/edge control for big shapes. My tablet broke so I had to use the mouse (which is why the brushstrokes are ugly)

Ah fug i don`t know what i am doing anymore. I need to go back to filling sketchbooks

I'm still faffing around with this

>>3174983
To be honest I like this a lot more than the other anons. I don't have much to say because this is beyond my ability to critique but I'm enjoying the mish mash of unblended and muddy colors. Actually the only crit I might have is that this would be way better if the figure were more ... I guess, realistic? Or better represented a human figure than it does currently.

>>3177752
maybe from oni cartoons

>>3178107

update

>>3179016
very Gigeresque, cool. the white hole near his legs is steam? too white imo. nice illustration

>>3179179
Yea it should be more transparent, like the ones on the right. But there is a lot more wrong with it, now that i am looking at after a night of sleep

Do you find this unsettling? At first I was trying to imitate Schiele, but then things got weird.

WIP

>>3171880
Why is this all the way on page 9?

>>3176376
Ignore the shit lord you are doing loomis' work

>tfw you skip leg sketching day and now you're spending the whole night struggling to have a pair of them be both appealing in shape and composition and make sense in form and perspective
JUST fuck my shit up senpai, right when I was getting close to done with my line clean-up. Of many attempts, this is the version I hate the least I guess, how would you approach these legs?
Help.

FUCK . UNI .
did my last study when this thread just started , 300 posts in , and I only now have time to do another one