/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

In a time where instant gratification is such a prized thing, it's to be expected.
I submit on HentaiFoundry and like to visit their subforum for the people who get rejected (because QA standards) to give advice; a lot of it the problems are just not spending enough time on it: both physically drawing and learning.

btw Nontan 4 lyfe

Are there people who enjoy the process? When you try to draw a detail again and again until there are holes in paper and it still looks like shit. Process in irrelevant, only result means.

I fucking love drawing/painting. But only when I'm doing it. Best analogy I can come up with is:
>getting in shower: shit
>showering: amazing
>getting out of shower: shit
The process truly is one of the few things that give me real joy in life.
But I guess to answer your question, it's the getting in bit that everyone finds hard. Starting a drawing on a blank canvas, that sort of thing. It's a common problem.

Impatience

>>3169703
I only enjoy the process. It's the only time where I feel like I'm in complete control.

The result just feels like something that happens between two processes. And it by itself rarely brings me joy.

>>3169647
millenials. they all want everything brought to them and be done with everything instantly.

>>3169735
pretty much.

>>3169667
>>3169720
these two

>>3169647
Imagine if you couldn't walk and have never walked properly on two feet in your whole life, and then someone told you to just go outside and walk more to learn how to do it.

It's not the process of drawing that people don't like.

>>3169743
Then why older people struggle more when learning how to draw?

>>3169914
because theyre old

>>3169914
The ones with responsibilities have less time and are tired. The ones without responsibilities are shitposting on /ic/ and pretending it constitutes practice.

>>3169647
I like sketching.
I don't like inking.
I loathe coloring.

And since I'm only doing it for fun, I almost exclusively sketch anime girls, sometimes inking them too.

>>3169914
Any proofs of that?

>>3169982
>Any proofs of that?
You don't see many great artists that started late.

>>3169647
painting takes a really really long time. It takes more than passion to make a painting, it takes dedication, focus, and will.

A lot of people are fascinated by the mystic of the artist, but don't understand how much fucking work it takes.

>>3169647
This,
this totally baffles me.
I think people are really dense for acting like this. Either they like it a LITTLE bit but are so spoiled and undisciplined they can't get past any of the first hurdles they experience.
Either that or they have romatnisized 'The Artiste' kind of character/personality? Where they think that girls will think they are hot or something for drawing?
If people honestly think that they are beyond help.
Being an artist just feels like being a degenerate and a perpetual child.

>>3169703
I enjoy to learn things about realistic art, mostly because it leads me to an understanding of the actual world from the very basic shape of it, and it actually feels god-like when you finish your drawings and they look decent enough to give you the sensation of what you wanted to convey.

>>3169999
check 'em
>>3169667
>btw Nontan 4 lyfe
Agreed

>>3169647
I can relate to it, it's similar to how I want to tell stories but can't get myself to do fuck all because I hate writing.

So I stick to drawing titties.

>>3169647
Who the hell has been drawing these? I can't find the source anywhere

>>3169999
>and it actually feels god-like when you finish your drawings and they look decent
This is quite literally the best feeling I have ever experienced

I'd rather we just have a Love Live thread

>>3169918
>The ones with responsibilities have less time and are tired
Your post already falsifies that statement.

>>3169918
Unless you are a NEET, you have enough time for 1-2 hobbies. Make one of them art. Stop being lazy.

I think it's an instant gratification thing, and also a lot of people don't like sitting still for hours at a time. I notice this especially in university, where students are just throwing out last minute work and cringing at the idea of someone spending three-hours just to get to a partially finished state. It's kind of disheartening.

It's taken me a few years to get out of "loving the idea of drawing but not the process", and honestly it came from accepting that once I put my work out there, the amount of time I put into it is meaningless to whoever is consuming it. It also helps seeing and realizing that most of the artist I admire didn't get to their level in a day, but took years upon years to get to where they are.

I love watching the process of art, I learned how to paint from watching painting streams and... make-up tutorials. Processes are really interesting to me. I get frustrated when I'm in the middle of a process and get stuck, but I'm learning to keep pushing through to at least LEARN something along the way.

But yeah, basically this >>3169720

>>3169987
That only proves most great artists started early.

>>3171420
NicoMaki forever

>>3169914
>>3169987
The problem isn't physical it's mental. A lot of older people have their view on how life and things are and that's it. Good luck changing their minds.
Seriously you've never heard them constantly saying "I'm too old for that"?

When you're still relatively young your ego isn't as inflated so you still discover and try things out, especially with internet and such. I can predict future generations will start learning new hobbies at later ages in the future.

>>3171648

>>3170010
God I love duke inu

I get demotivated very easily if I don't get instant results
You can draw for hours and everything will still look horrible
I got this with pretty much all attempts at developing a hobby though, maybe when I feel less worthless I won't get so angry at what I perceive as failure. Lifting is the only hobby that gives gratification fast enough.

>>3174885

>>3169647
It's like movies anon. Everyone can walk out of a great movie thinking "damn, that was amazing, I wish I could make a movie like that" and then they realize how shitty and boring and frustrating the process is just for a good 2 hour movie and get discouraged.

Some people just develop stockholm syndrome after convincing themselves they love the process

>>3171430
>tfw if i want to do art and lifting i need to give up writing and video editing
>video games are definitely off the table
>learning an instrument is literally never going to happen

i guess that's life

>>3178766
You get all the time and money you'll ever need after you retire.

>>3169735
This. Dreaming is easier than doing.

>>3169647
>>3171156
I dont know what these are but they make me laugh.

>>3174683
So older people have bad long-term patience.

>>3179527
This isn't what I said. If said older people truly wanted to get into something, they would and I would say have better chances of holding it up than someone younger. What's harder for them is to actually change, it's the initial push.

>>3179537
Exactly, they have the potential, just lack the long-term patience to make it.

>>3171416
When you draw a full comic page traditionally, lettering and all, it's like that multiplied by ten. You hold up this thing and it's a fucking page from your comic. I can't even describe how good it feels.