/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

By not questioning their teacher and not being lazy. If you actually put in the work and listen to any kind of advice, you will easily learn to draw.

What was the name of that guy who did YouTube art exercises who posted here sometimes? One of his videos was 'Donut of Death'. I've been wondering what he's up to these days.

>>3161082
moatdd

>>3161063
does question & answers thread is actually a thing? cuz ive one

>>3161086
I would say it's been a thing long enough on /ic/ to be considered a part of the board culture now. The fact that the previous thread >>3133160 stayed up for a full month is a proof of that.
Anyway, what is your question, Anon?

Is style a choice or does it "form" naturally?
I feel like I have no style whatsoever

What are some good artist conventions? Not like comic con where there's just an alley of artists that sell merch, but a convention by artists for artists? THU seems to be the only good one but I don't know if I can spend the money to live out of the country alone for a while I attend. Is there anything that just has a collection of artists that talk about their work/process on a panel or something? Along the lines of GDC but more artwork based I guess.

I know schoolism has some workshop things too. Maybe that's what I should be looking for?

>>3161500
Both. Style is the set of both conscious and unconscious decisions made when approaching a piece. It's the culmination of your experiences up to that point. I kind of like to think about it as slowly bringing your thoughts from your unconscious to the conscious. With every new piece of work you make, building off the knowledge garnered from other artists that inspire you, you get closer to more tangibly defining your "style". That is, bringing what is most important to you or what you are most passionate about from your unconscious to the conscious.

Which is particularly why I think people change/evolve "styles" so often. That which inspires us isn't static and we as humans change over time. A particularly relevant quote from Richard Schmid's Alla Prima (Everything I know about Painting):
"Underlying all your choices, particularly subject matter and the way you represent it, should be your own personal scruples, the standards and rules that you voluntarily set for yourself, and which you may change or abandon whenever you choose-- without explanation to anyone. Your rules should arise out of your passions and your experience with what works for you. "

help help

h0w do i get good at the scapula? so far all I really know is that it's one of two triangles that go on your back and that move around when you move your arm. It's also in line with your clavical I think.

Hi guys, I have a question about paints.
What's the difference of acrylic and oil paints, I want to do "realistic" paintings, which I see are usually done in oil. When I look for classical acrylic painters no one comes up.
What's the difference (in technique, use. Not what it's made of)? Can I use acrylic for "realistic" portraits, plein air, etc? And can anyone give me a recommendation of an acrylic painter? I saw that Sinix paints with acrylic, but I can't find many more people. I would like to do a study of something done in acrylic.
Thanks to anyone who can help.

>>3161629
Acrylics are a fast drying, polymer based paint that dries slightly darker than what it looks like when wet. Versatile, cheap, and can last a long time on a palette if you use a sealed wet palette. Acrylics can be used thinly like watercolor to a very thick and textured application. Acrylics are great for making very graphic shapes, and for painting over itself (you can paint a silhouette of an object, then easily paint the light with graphic shapes). The only trouble with acrylics is their fast drying time, which makes it really hard to get a soft edge. If you're really quick you can make it work, but otherwise you'll have to resort to a slow-drying medium.

Oils are a slow drying, oil based paint that can be as easy or as complicated as you like. The thing with oils is that you can't use water to clean your brush or thin your paints like other water soluble paints, so I like to use Gamblin 100% Mineral Spirits (non toxic but extremely flammable), but Turpentine is also used often (even though it's toxic and smells bad). The idea with oils is to work in layers: Fat over Lean. This just means if you want to cover a color, you have to use a thicker amount of paint, and if you want to paint over that even thicker. Now the best way to think about oils is that they're always wet. Things can be constantly moved around and changed, sharpened and blurred, covered or wiped away with a cloth. Theoretically you could paint a whole portrait and if you still don't like it just wipe it away as long as it hasn't dried. Now with oils the complexity lies in the mediums that you use. You don't -have- to use any mediums, but they're usually recommended to get the full oil painting experience. I would start with Liquin as it makes your paint smooth as butter, but there's other mediums that make it fast drying, super thick and textured, glaze-like, etc.

If other people with more experience want to correct me, go ahead, but I think this covers most of the basics.

>>3161537
Thanks for that quote man, this kinda knowledge is like a cool glass of water in the midst of the shit on this board

I'm travelling soon and only bringing a carry-on. Should I expect to get any shit about pens with refill cartridges in them? Or pens/markers in general?

Why is Deviantart declining compared to Tumblr and Instagram?
Also if I'm not mistaken the best social networks to post on are Insta > Tumblr > Devart right? (I think it was Loish saying that, she must know her shit)

Is there some sort of app/site with a posing 3D model and movable lights?

>>3161629
The best "realistic" painter with acrylic I can think of is Michael Whelan. A lot of book cover artists like him used acrylics in the 60's through the 90's, before digital, because it dried fast, and oils simply didn't let them keep their deadlines. Whelan of all of them truly mastered their use - and it's not easy, I tried.

You don't see any classical painters using them, because they didn't become commercially available until the 50's. A lot of the post-modern artists used acrylics, for their brighter colors. We don't know how acrylics will age, so high end gallery work tends to be done in oil, because we know how it ages.

Working with oils is better for realism, because the colors are more subtle, and the techniques available are more suitable for that kind of work. You can do glazes like with oils, but it's not the same. You can come back a day later and still work with oils, acrylics are dry within minutes. (It's a lot like fresco, which is painting on plaster, and once the plaster sets, you can't work it further, and plaster sets quickly). You also can't get the transparent qualities with acrylics that oils have. Acrylic's strengths are brighter colors, you can build up thicker paint and not worrying about it cracking when drying, and it's more opaque than oils. It's great for bright work with strong colors, like for advertising. Airbrushing it also makes it easier to blend.

>>3161629
Look at Wayne Reynolds

I know this has been asked a lot but how can I keep from the opacity building up when multiple strokes overlap? I'm using Krita with the "wash" painting mode. I'm basically looking for it to behave as if everything was one stroke, so I can't darken part of a stroke just by going over it with another stroke, no matter how light.

In other words, I want it to behave like left all the time, things only darkening the harder I press down. Right is just awful. I've tried seeking google's help, I'm really not sure what to google though because nothing useful came up.

>>3161940
Nevermind, I finally foun the solution, which is to pick "greater" blending mode in the brush options, which is under the "Mix" category

>>3161099
what if i love drawing but i hate realistic painting? what more artistic paths exist to compensate it if i really enjoy drawing something like ink and calligraphy perhaps?

>>3161940
Not sure about krita, but in Clip Studio there are blending modes for individual brushes, one of which is called "replace alpha" that does exactly what you are asking for. It's likely that it's not implemented if it's not in the newest version (mine is 2.9.6, so it's older and can only speak for that version). You can check by hitting F5 to view brush settings.

>>3161916
Deviantart has been in the decline for years, largely because the heads realized it was better to work on the $$$ aspect of the site as apposed to functioning. I haven't used the site in a few years because I finally got fed up, but from my experience it's incredibly hard to break out as an up and coming artist there. The way the site functioned allowed only the popular artists to be placed in the limelight and rarely did a nobody get the same chance. When they implemented tags it also made things worse for a lot of people, you were stuck trying to figure out the 5(?) tags that would most likely to get you noticed and tough shit if it didn't work because unless you got 100+ favorites within 12 hours your stuff gets stuck in 'newest' purgatory which is basically how users realize DA is just an image dumping grounds. Outside of getting those chances at being featured in popular, those favorites mean nothing because favorites are never shared by the user.
Basically you have to be popular to get popular. At this point it functions better as a mirror and people know that. Why waste your time on a site that doesn't help you?

Tumblr, for example, is a bit different, you still have the problem with tags, but along with a popular section, people can reblog things which also gives the opportunity for people to spread your work around while still linking back to your main page, all easy exposure. That's at least one aspect that makes tumblr better than DA for being a better art-related social network.

Short version is that for an art-network DA fails to be a helpful art network

How do I get good.

>>3161940
The wet brushes might be what you're looking for.
This is kinda why I use mypaint instead of krita. Krita has some terrible default brushes.

>>3162098
Stop asking, draw. No, more. Seriously.
Experiment. Don't be afraid of failure. Iterative drawing. Be self critical and analyze.

>>3162114
those are literally garbage
>>3161940
just enable opacity u goof

whats a good brush for blocking in colour?

>>3162123
take that back
wet brushes literally make painting so much faster.

>>3162162
if youre a retard

I'm using sai and doing pixel shit.
Whenever I move a layer around it gets weird artifacting.
Does anyone know how to fix this?

>>3162165
Iunno, I find it pretty difficult to paint with a dry brush.

>>3161559

Look up shoulder girdle tutorials and anatomy. The key to drawing the arms is really the clavicle and figuring out how it works with the rest of the arm.

>>3162233
do you have any good ones? I have basic knowledge from a book I'm reading but feel like I need to know more

>>3162162
Dry+color picker 5x5 average>>>>>>>>wet

I feel like I have more controls over the gradation.

Is this a viable alternative to other inking pens? I don't know too much about inking, but I've been playing around with this. Can someone guide me through this via explanation/link?

>>3162250
>Is this a viable alternative to other inking pens?
Yes. They bleed a bit more than other pens like Microns/ Multiliners but ink is ink. I switched back to them because while Microns are maybe a bit nicer they are no more durable an where out over time pretty badly.

Otherwise, all felt tip/ technical pens do the same thing, they put down a consistent and uniform black line. Get whatever is cheapest, everyone makes one (Prismacolor, Copic, Faber Castell, Sharpy, etc). The main advantage of Microns and the like is that you can get so many different sizes, for bold and very detailed lines as decided. Sharpy pens come in only one size, fine, which is close to an 03 for most other brands. If you want bolder you need an ultra fine Sharpy marker, note an ultra fine marker, not a pen. Those bleed like crazy but it is what it is.

Some advise though, don't by the packs of 1 or 2. The only economical way to buy them are boxes of 12 that cost ~$8, and ship free from Amazon I think.

>>3162255
Alright thanks for the help! I'll definitely give the others a chance

>>3161534
An artist convention would be pretty interesting, but really that's just a more humble version of an art gallery.
If you're interested in just learning from artist guest speakers you can check out your local universities and see if they have events open seating available to the public.
Look for industry conferences in your area and see if they allow freelance visitors. I don't know where you are, but it seems that California has something that allows people to exhibit their work called the CAA. No idea if they have a permit that allows their exhibitors to make sales, though.
If you're looking for a place to sell, try to rent a space in a shopping center or a Black Lion, if those are still around, or even a local vendor event like a Christmas show or farmer's market.

>>3162172
Are you moving it with the selection or the move tool? If you're using a selection, it's imperfect due to the anti-aliasing. Without knowing what you're doing this is what I think may be happening as this is how I've seen some people use the program. I haven't ever run into this issue, myself.
The only other thing I can think of is if you're using the transform tool which when I tested it left similar artifacting even after just selecting transform and confirming the transformation.
If you're going to make selections, use the lasso tool with enough extra space because the edge doesn't have a hard transparency and it will take away some of the opacity of your pixels if the selection borders your art. If you're using the transform tool to move things, use the move tool instead. If you want to make pixel art bigger, don't use sai and use something that has an appropriate sizing algorithm like nearest neighbor.

>>3161082
You mean Mark's Drawing Tutorials?

>>3161629
Some Chuck close

How the fuck do i draw hair?
Any good resources?

How can I start in the ink-world?
I'm lost in so many pens and information.
Can u name one pen and paper to buy?

>>3162703
I have this for hair. It's very simple.

>>3161654
>>3161921
>>3161935
>>3162423
Thank you guys :)

>>3161085
>>3162397
That’s the guy. Thank you.

Sometimes I try drawing but nothing comes out. What the fuck do i do?
Like, i'm able to paint and draw decently one day, th next it's like it doesn't work.
This sucks...

>>3162871
>Sometimes I try drawing but nothing comes out

First, no matter what instrument you’re using, make sure that you have it with the tip end down and that the tip is coming in contact with the paper/tablet. Ghosting is good, but if you never touch the paper, you won’t make any marks. When you’ve confirmed that you have tip contact, check the specifics for each instrument.

>pen

Make sure that the pen has ink in it. Replace empty disposable pens. Refill refillable pens. Dip again if using a dip pen.

>Pencil

Pencil leads are sometimes brittle. Look at the tip. Has it slipped out of the pencil? Sharpen it until you reach more lead. If you use mechanical pencils, make sure there are leads in the barrel and that the leads are being taken up through the tip.

>digital tablet

Check your tablet’s connections. Verify that it has power and that the computer is recognizing the tablet. If your stylus needs power, check its charge. Charge it or replace its batteries as necessary.

Eventually these checks will become second nature to you, and you will always be able to see drawings come out when you draw.

>>3162888
lmao, goddamn it... i kinda bamboozled tbf.

How do I learn from art books? I'm looking at Drawing the Head and Figure by Jack Hamm, I'm currently just drawing the eye trying to make it look like what he has/

>>3162250

I had a few of them a while back and I actually liked them more than my other fineliners.

Does anyone have tips/resources on portraying personality and emotions?
A constant criticism I hear from one of my friends is that the characters I draw don't look lifelike, and that they are more like porcelain dolls than people.
I'm better at this with lines alone, but once I add color and shading the characters go deadpan.

i want to start figure drawing,there are a lot of books that cover the topic,wich book should i use? pls help a newfag

How good should you be at drawing before you buy a tablet and go digital?

What methods of drawing figures are there? I'm talking using boxes, skeletal structures, etc.
I want to know what else I could try out because figure drawing's gotten boring lately.

can someone post some examples of hatch rendering with the digital medium?

>>3163152
a year in

What kind of ink do i need to refill these brush pens?

>>3163138
Check out quickposescom for lots of images to help figure and gesture work

>>3162755
Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNgYvTI09XE

>>3161940
Set your brush to the Greater blending mode

So I'm going through Erik Olson's perspective course, and now he's started using elipse guides, and I'm just wondering how important it is for me to buy those? I don't draw traditionally usually, so if I do buy a kit it would be just for this course. Is it worth it, or will I learn just as much by freehanding the elipses myself?

>>3163947
>I don't draw traditionally usually

Perfect! It's easier to do his course digitally. There are a number of programs that allow you to measure mathematically.

I'll be attending some life drawing classes soon. time's limited and pretty pricey. any tips for what I should focus on? what medium to use and what I should practice on

>>3163951
Well, I'd prefer to take my notes by hand, it's just a lot easier to organize, and I don't have to worry about having to use my monitor both for watching the video and a drawing program.

>>3164101
focus on drawing exactly what you see at first, no construction bs or whatever, just measuring angles and proportions. It's just a great chance to improve your observational drawing while at the same time really getting a grasp on the volume and mass of the figure. Pay good attention to all the bumps caused by the pelvis, ribcage etc. It's really valuable anon, I've been going for two months now and I feel very good about deciding to go. Be sure to be extremely polite and don't do anything to discomfort anybody, especially the model. The first time you could get a headache if the session is long, but the more you do it the better it gets. Have fun.

how do i learn how to paint like this?

I’m a digitalfag and was never good at the painterly look, but could make a few okay images. But now that’s I’m trying to practice it specifically, it’s like I forgot what little I knew. It’s either hard shading or a musdy airbrush look.

How to learn brushwork?

>>3164560
Whats the source?

how do I keep a practice while working full time hours? Im always tired or too hyped on adrenaline
to draw with out having wobbly hands. Someone pls respond I don't want my dreams of making it to die.

>>3164914
Some random anon from this board

>>3164560
What kind of answer do you expect when asking this question all the time? "how do i paint like this" "how do i render like this" "how do i draw like this"
Art is fucking complicated bro, you wouldn't go up to a game programmer and ask "how do i code as you?" right?
Same with every other skill out there "Hey Mayweather how do I fight like you" it's honestly the dumbest question I've ever heard.
but i'll answer it for you buddy
you ready?
Years of hard work, now get the fuck off this site and stop asking for magic short cuts that doesn't exist and go draw and make me proud.

Why do I get hand pain when drawing on my tablet but not while drawing traditionally?

>>3164914
barkode on tumblr

>>3165046
turn your sensitivity up on your tablet so you don't have to press as hard

>>3165068
Tried it. Even with comically high sensitivity, my natural drawing rhythm causes my fingers to hurt after a short while. It helps to consciously try to draw slower, or to be less picky with where my lines end up, but neither of those things come easily and they both result in less effective drawing

I am new at CPS5 and I am having problems configuring the magic wand tool when I'm laying down the base. There is still garbage and I have to go over it with an eraser. I have no problem with that, but is there a way to configure it so there's less junk/clean up I have to do?

What's the best paper for practicing/making fine art with a ballpoint pen?

>>3164963
Most threads like that seem to conclude it’s best to wake up early and draw before work. Then you can do other things while tired before bed. Maybe especially since you have issues being too hyper. Assuming you’re more balanced when you wake up, anyway.

>>3164533
thanks bro

>>3165425
I like watercolor paper. You can do wonders with watercolor paper, a ballpoint pen, a q-tip, and some rubbing alcohol.

>>3165466
Rubber alcohol? For like an ink wash? Never thought of that.

Has anyone tried using society6 or redbubble to sell prints? How are they?

www facebook com/usernamenotaviable/
I think a lot of this guy's drawings are traced from other people's works but I can't find the originals. Every drawing is so different from each other... pic related, I don't think the left one is traced though.
What do you think? Can you find some artist you know among these drawings?

>>3165471
Rubber? Is that a typo or do your people call it rubber instead of rubbing?

>>3165564
What are you trying to get at? Guy is a complete nobody and doesn't even sell them or anything. He's under no fault even if you find evidence he traced. In any case, it looks like he just does a ton of studies so yeah, it's likely those aren't originals.

>>3165564
THE HUNT BEGINS. I can find it easily, just give me the character's name

>>3165583
Rubbing. Must of been autocorrect or something.

>>3165601
Ah, makes sense... thanks for replying

>>3165587
I agree, wasn't planning on saying anything to him or call him out since he's not popular, I was just curious and wanted to find some of the artists he's tracing from
>>3165588
It's Miu Iruma from Danganronpa V3 but I'm pretty sure he drew her over another drawing

>>3165607
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?page=1&tags=iruma_miu
Ive had no luck. Hes too smart. . . For the 2nd image he prob used a diff body and slapped on the hair.

Stupid question time : what actually changes when a face shape is different from another one? Certains bones in particular?

How does one get good at drawing environments?

Does anyone know of any western artists that utilize a similar style?
Basically a slightly stylized figure with realisticish rendering and a thick outside outline?
Adam Hughes is the first guy to come to mind, but I'm trying to find more.

>>3166334
Perspective is very important!

>>3166384

Perspective huh? should I just grind that one Scott Robertson book?

>>3166399
Yeah it helped me a lot.

can I still read loomis without being a disgusting overweight smelly yank? a sharting mouthbreathing brown abhorrent creature obsessed with guns?

what kind of skillsets would I need to make something like this? I can draw and sketch pretty well but haven't done much with paint. should I start small and paint things like apples or can I jump in to doing complicated pieces?

>>3166496
pic

Reading through Perspective Made Easy and I don't get one thing. I'll try to explain myself as best as I can
I understand the horizon line is always eye level IRL right? But how does that translate to a picture? What I mean is how do I know where to place the horizon line in a drawing where the viewer can see the horizon? Is it always in the middle?

how do i learn how to draw water? i took a sketchbook to the beach but left with a page of scribbles, there must be some method to do this.

>>3166500
What do you call this style? I haven't seen it done since forever.

>>3166531
The further out the water goes, the more reflective it gets. So, if you stand in water on the beach and look directly downwards you'll see your feet. Follow the beach floor and you'll lose sight of it due to sky reflections.
Water, when constantly moving, stretches reflections tangent to the surface. Look up anisotropic reflections for more information. Wave structure is weird and I don't truly understand it, but just know for every peak there is a valley and then another peak. Representing this is weird too, and I don't have tips for that (Wish I did).
In drawing, it's more important to consider the reflective, refractive, and depth properties of water in order to make it convincing.
Hopefully that helps a little bit.

>>3166556
Because it hasn't been done in forever. That's dnd artist larry elmore from the 80's the best shit ever. The days of fiend folio, monster manual and gary gygax.

Those days will never return.

I'm confident in my skill at the moment and I'd like to start working on my portfolio aside form general practice but I'm honestly at a loss as to where to start. I suck with organisation. I have no idea what exactly I should draw, how many works should I include etc. My question is, do you guys have any detailed guidelines on creating a good portfolio, step by step, minimal number of works, what subject should I focus on, all that stuff? Just anything that would give me the smallest sense of direction.

Pic not entirely related but it's handy.

>>3166602
What changed? People's tastes?

>>3166766
Pick a place you want to work at/for. Create a few works that look similar but different. That's your portfolio. I hear 30 is a good high number and above 10.

Should I learn how to color while learning how to draw? Pic not really related

>>3166779
No, they're not even mutual. Learning how to draw accurately is separate from light and shadow which is what color is a part of. That's like drawing with just values, which is more like painting. But you can if you, color makes things look better and there's nothing wrong with wanting to polish your drawings. Also good taste.

>>3166786
So should I just slam down the fundamentals before I start giving a shit about color? I mean I guess it makes sense no use coloring the turds I produce

>>3166804
Color is a fundamental. Very first thing you should learn how to do however is to be able to draw whatever is in front of you with line and maybe value, but line is the basis of it all. It's simpler than it seems to be honest. It just takes a ton of time to internalize.

>>3166811
Alright thanks for the motivation brother.

Any tips for correct sternocleidomastoid placement? I'm doing Hampton and his explanation is inadequate.

how can i get a large color palette/swatches tab on photoshop like this without doing it manually?

>>3166937
take that image into PS and use the eye dropper on it in a small window.

Where I can find a "how to start in ink guide"?

I wanna try but I didn't found anything talking about the pens, paper...

How do you go about developing your own really unique style?

Im a noob, interested in figure drawing and cartooning. Working off "Figure Drawing: Design and Invention" to learn the basics and "Fun with a pencil"....Gonna go through all the /ic/ books eventually.

Learning the fundamentals is really important to me, but my main goal is developing my own style. how does one go about this?

>>3163131
First thought is try and use more references of real people; look into "line of action" (it applies to neutral poses as well) as well as gesture drawing and body language. It sounds redundant, but artists who are drawing people who look stiff tend to try and draw from memory and then don't go further than the head is connected to the neck which is connected to the torso etc. which results in bland and stiff poses. Look out how the body contorts while expressing motions and personalities. For example, a confident and proud person will tend to stand straighter with their shoulders squared and head high, while a meek and shy person will curl into themselves and look down.
I don't know how your line-work and coloring skills are, but it wouldn't hurt to look into line drawing exercises and color theory.

>>3165875
Unfortunately most bones in the skull. Orbital, cheek, nasal, and the mandible (whole) are the biggest influences. How fat is stored in the face also factors into it to a degree as well.

>>3165564
That shit looks similar to Paul Kwon/Zeronis' work.
Left face mostly.

>>3166983
>but it wouldn't hurt to look into line drawing exercises and color theory.
can you elaborate/recommend resources on this?
different anon but with the same problem of drawing deadpan people. will try using references more often too.

I feel like I'm really creative when it comes to abstract things like character concepts, but for some reason I feel like I never know what I want to draw.

I get flashes of inspiration every few days when I come up with something 'Good', but in the meantime I just feel kinda bored in a sense. The kind of bored where nothing seems like a good idea, everything's too boring/difficult/similar to something I did last week

I doubt I can find a way of getting inspired more frequently since that's such a nebulous concept, but at the very least I'd like things to be a little easier in the meantime. Am I being too picky with what I choose to draw, or should I work on my ability to come up with solid ideas, compositions, etc? What's a good way of going about this?

How do I get "the spark"?

>>3167212
be born with it

What are some good brushes for clip studio paint?

I just want a brush that's good for blocking in colours but all of them seem shite for it

>>3161063

What's the reasoning behind having a reddish rim to shadows like this image here. I've noticed in it a lot of art, even works that aren't particularly stylized.

I like the look of it, and it seems to look realistic, sort of. But what would actually be causing this effect irl?

>>3166769
Probably, I really don't like it at all

>>3167437

The human body has a lot of different hues. Parts covered by cloth gets less tan. Mons pubis, the hip bone area and the chest is quite pale. The shoulders and lower arms gets a little extra tan. The inside of the lower arm is often pale however. The kneecaps and elbows have a little darker skin. The face also has a lot of hues, such as rosy cheeks, males might have grey or almost green jaws because of stubble. The best way to learn the hues of the human body is to make studies of course. Don't forget that animals, monsters and objects also have hues. If you paint everything with the same hue and saturation it will look boring. Some hues are due to ambient and reflected light. The shoulders and surfaces pointing up can get a blue hue because of the sky reflecting.

The gradients between the shadow and light is not just an in-between color of the shadow color and light color. If the shadow and light is just blended, it will look very lifeless. If you look at pictures you will see that the gradients is saturated. It's especially easy to notice if you remove that saturation.

>>3167452
Strong light can penetrate the surface of some materials and bounce around, then exit again. This will increase the saturation and make the surface look illuminated from the inside. In the case with human skin, we sometimes see it on hard edges between light and shadow.

This is from Niklas Jansson's art tutorial

>>3167454

If I shine torch on my hand and hold an object in front of the light so it casts a shadow, I do observe a thin reddish-orange rim around the edges of the shadow. Is this being caused by the same thing descried here? It's quite trippy that this is being caused by subsurface bouncing of blood and shit, holy hell.

>>3167464
Yeah, exactly. Pretty cool stuff. It's so much easier painting when you know just how exactly the light works.

>>3166937
there might be a photoshop plugin for that

>>3166978
look at and save cool art you like. style is just a habit

>>3166991
I can't find a nice definitive resource for line drawing exercises (the one I had is MIA?) so pic related will have to do. In short, linework should be clean and essentially be able to hold itself on its own in regards to showing thickness, depth, and light source. It shouldn't be required to have color to be able to decipher and the coloring should work with the linework, not against. If the linework lacks weight than it will look bland, and if looks like it was hacked out with numerous lines it will look rough and unpleasant to look at.

As for color theory Blender guru has a video called "Understanding Color" that is a nice general explanation vid
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Qj1FK8n7WgY?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
If you don't have a strong color scheme your art can suffer, it can become bland and uninteresting and the lack of harmony can cause a piece to look gaudy or clunky. And just as bad, the "wrong" colors (and saturation/value) can cause someone to look dead and emotionless as somewhat explained in the video.

>>3167687
thanks anon

I'm having trouble working out how a muzzle is supposed to look from a worm's eye view. Does anyone have any resources that could help me work over this mental hurdle? I already got plenty of images of humans from this angle but that's not helping

Nvm, just learned there's a "worm's-eye view" tag in the various boorus

How do i remember these graphs?

where can I download Marshall Vandruff's perspective series?

is there an app that lets me view the color information of whatever my mousepointer hovers over?

is there an app or something that lets me quickly toggle between colors and b&w on my screen?

>>3167822
Color picker

Desaturation layer

>>3167826
right, but outside of photoshop. i want to be able to quickly study values and colors of a bunch of artwork without having to load them into ps.

Question: If I have natural light hitting a couple of objects and their cast shadows overlap, is the overlap noticeable (different tones) or is the shadow as a whole supposed to be 1 single tone? Thanks.

>>3167991

One single tone. But in a lot of indoor situations multiple light sources will cause there to be darker and lighter areas from overlapping.

>>3168036
thanks a lot.

>>3164984
I don't think anyone is asking for a shortcut. Just how they would begin to learn how to paint like that. Things such as studying value, etc. would have been a good answer. No shit you need to practice.

Anyone know if there is a setting I can tick in Photoshop CC that lets the line burn itself when set to multiply without lifting the pen?
This happens in Sai and while I hate it for some things it can be nice for others.
Pic related; top is Sai and bottom is PS, both brushes set to multiply on a linear-light/lumishade layer.

>>3166341
Bumping this because I'm interested too.

Working on my own linework this month so I've been trying to analyze and deconstruct favorite doujinshi artist who have art I wanna be able to replicate.
Anyone got pointers on what type of process someone would go through to render something similar to pic related? This doujin, along with a artists like Sakurai Energy and Itou Eight always make my favorite doujins in terms of art.

I'm mostly focused on trying to decipher the technical stuff, like what type of canvas size they were working at to make this, the type of brush, brush size, and the types of strokes they were making to get the lines they placed down; whether they were applying short, slow strokes or long broad strokes. Still have to figure out how these artists decide where to place other elements like hatching, solid blacks, and screentones.

>>3164533
Other anon, I've been like this for three months and have a few more, what should I start concentrating on now?

Is there a good ressources for finding vehicles on different angles?

This might sound like the most amauterist thing ever, but I've been looking at some videos and one stuck with me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbLECin_UPE

You don't need to see the whole 2 hours, just hop around the beggining.

The work flow this guy uses looks really simple and I've been trying to incorporate that to my own, but I've had some difficulty. See, he first sketches the whole thing, and from there, shapes it up, on the same layer. Thing is, maybe it's his brushes or whatnot, but I can't for the love of me reproduce it. Every brush I have, either my own or downloaded, looks super "smudgy" and blurry, so the draft ends up just as smudgy and blurry.
Anybody had this problem as well and overcame it? I've tried so many things already to no avail.

Any tips, resources, videos, etc. on how to stop drawing shaky lines?

Does it have to do with having a better understanding of form/construction?

>>3168833
If that's an example of your attempt then there's more work that needs to be done than just changing brushes. The problem you're running into is that you're not considering the things he's thinking about when he begins refining his sketch. He already has an idea in his head of what things should look like in perspective, how to render volumes and important shapes to include to properly define the form. His lineart is a scaffolding to help him begin blocking in forms, the lines aren't just lines but are information that help him organize his thoughts regarding form/volume/shape and even lighting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZknWKTpc90

Take a look at this video and I would suggest to use more reference when trying to draw. When drawing from reference you have to make a conscious effort to draw what you *actually* see versus what you *think* you see. Your chains for example, there's a very large link for really no explicable reason when your everyday knowledge of links would tell you that every link is of the same size.

tl;dr it's not the brush, it's your technical skill

>>3169423
Additionally, if you're running into problems with smudgy brushes then try working on your pen pressure technique-- you may be using lower opacity strokes where a higher opacity stroke is more appropriate (uncertainty leads to light, unsure drawing). The China Digital Painting video is a bit misleading because the artist is already very skilled. You can't exactly supplant his workflow to your own because you don't quite have the same level of knowledge as him. The process video doesn't show enough about all the things he's considering at once. I don't want you to run into the trap of trying to copy his workflow/setup and expect to make similar art.

For example, you would not expect a new music producer to produce music on the same quality as a veteran music producer just because the new music producer had a bunch of money and bought the same exact setup as the veteran. It's a similar case here.

>>3169431
>>3169423

Ah I see. Thing is, while I understand that his skill level is much, much higher, I've tried to copy a reference 1:1 just to see if the method could be done, not worrying about construction and all that, and it comes off blurry still. When I try to increase the brush opacity, it doesn't looks "clean" as his does, but a mess. I've decided to instead of doing this, shaping things from a "chunky" brush, that I'll just do normal linework until I adquire more skill. Maybe then I'll understand better.
Have not checked your video though, will take a look. Thanks for the help friend.

>>3169333
Has to do with confidence really. You can try a few things, I also have this problem, though some might argue they're just crutch.

1) Drafting things first on a layer (if digital of course) and, when it looks like you have all the shapes, shoot the opacity down then create another one and trace over over it

2) Use SAI. For some reason the linework there is much more crispy then on photoshop. They also have a function that kinda slows down your lines as you draw then, giving you more control over it

3) Build up confidence and work with less, but more accurate strokes. Making them quicker helps too

>>3161063
How do I learn to draw T H I C C thighs?

Anyone got images about doing better lineart or videos of someone doing them?

Any tips for coming up with hairstyles or drawing hair in general? All of my girls either have ponytails, short hair, or blobby hair.

My most recent attempt. It jusf doesn't feel like it has weight or it feels really unkempt. But if I make it super clean, it looks like a weird wig.
Any help?

>>3169771
use reference dummy

>>3169777
trips of truth

Does anyone have any examples of good artist websites? I've seen a lot of designs/portfolios out there and I'd like to get some inspo from what the professionals are using for theirs.

There's no way of asking this question without sounding fishy but what's a good ressource to learn teenagers and younger anatomy?

>>3161063
I sold a character to someone and after they paid me I realize they'd sent me an echeque which I'd never seen on paypal before

I waited a few days since it needed a few days to clear and then got an email saying the senders bank had refused it and paypal would try again in a few days

question is, How fucked am I?

Anyone got something like that but for hair?
Like hair growing direction or something

>>3169698
1. decent knowledge of leg/hip anatomy
2. good grasp of form and volume
3. good sense of proportion
4. good shape design

>>3168678
jeez idk anon, you're my senpai strictly speaking. I would concentrate on individual parts in more detail I guess if I felt like doing something different.

any tips for people who try to get their sketch layer way too clean/detailed/precise?

What do you guys think is:

the most profitable industry for drawing
1-illustration
2-Conceptart
3-traditional
4 other??

And also which is the least known BUT does pay well?
anything goes, also if you have links or articles bonus points.

who did this tutorial?

What if you can't see the horizon line?

>>3170376
eye level = horizon
If you can't see the horizon you're blind

>>3169777
>>3169785
Damn I guess you're right
Are there like any catalogs for hairstyles?

>>3170484
Lots of hairstyle ideas and tutorials on pinterest

Is there any book to help with composition and shit like that?
I was told to surround myself with creativity so i can come up with ideas to create, but it's not working, i can only come up with boring poses and nothing interesting at all.

>>3170339
I'd say concept artist almost every game movie or series needs some sort of concept art.

>>3170843
But it's also the most difficult one right?

>>3170358
looks like coelasquid's older stuff. they also did this
https://coelasquid.deviantart.com/art/Abdomination-How-to-draw-beef-132538271

>>3170330
sorry, is this meant to be clear or precise?

>>3169813
most people just use squarespace or wix since it's largely drag and drop

>>3167833
firefox's add-on store has some colour pickers. far as i can see they're mostly hexadecimal, but you could look around

>>3170339
medical illustration, court artists, reportage illustration are all things anon

>>3170240
know any good exercises for developing a sense of volume?
or does that shit just come with experience?

Any benefits to try to learn how to draw (from the very start) with your left hand over your right?

>>3171003
>is this meant to be clear or precise?

if it was, would I be asking for advice?

>>3170330
work big, then resize.

>>3171004
medical illustration requires a degree and a certification / membership

What exactly constitutes the tumblr style?
It's so distinct but I can't put my finger on it.

how do you determine how much detail you need for your pictures or certain area of it ?

>>3171190
yeah but it is a potential avenue. it's not concept art pro or death by starvation like this board tells you.
art teaching too

>>3171615
that looks like a variant of the 'calarts style' aka disney, mixed with some anime influence.

>>3171615
It's easy to tell because the artists seems to have no artistic influences or life experiences outside of what's seen in Disney movies and anime.

Is there a reason why eastern artists draw with heavily aliased/non pressure sensitive brushes?

How do I paint/draw actually good buildings that don't look like giant turds? They should be just simple primitive shapes, but I can never get the windows or the scale to look right. Are there any resources I could look to?
Pic related is a good example of good buildings.

>>3172380
that has nothing to do with regions. it has to do wit the level of draftmanship and experience as an artist, they know their tools. youre just too retarded thats all

is there an easy way to download all the pics from a profile on artstation?

>>3172402
Basic shapes in 3d then add thousands of windows?

So i finished Perspective Made Easy and im now halfway thru (Scott Roberts) How to Draw and it starts to get harder to execute the exercises. Whats a good book that i could combine my current studys with that would have a good overall impact on my results?

Im living in the believe that i should finish Scott Roberts content first and than move on to anatomy instead of doing both at the same time maybe im wrong and stuck in too much precision?

Pic related is my current level have to learn to add more detail now.

How do you guys hold your sketchbook/paper while copying something that's on your computer screen? I usually lean mine against the edge of the table and rest the bottom on my lap but drawing larger images is kinda hard + it tires my upper arm

How do you deal with and avoid wrist/joint pain?
I stretch out my hands and exercise regularly, and I still get aches here and there.

>>3172486
That's probably the most autistic way of saying you don't know either

reposting here as well but

https://jbox.com/apa821
someone posted this over in another drawthread and I was wondering if anyone had experience with it or if its been uploaded elsewhere. (or others of the same series)
wanted a nice reference for some cute poses and it looked sorta decent. I am however hesitant over anything that says "how to draw"

what constitutes a design element?

i remember dave rapoza speaking of limiting yourself to three design elements. with that in mind, im looking through sergi brosa's stuff and trying to see what can be grouped into the same design element. having a hard time figuring out how granular it is supposed to be.

>>3172798
I guess what I was asking was
What makes a good building design?

Is keys to drawing a better book than fun with a pencil? I keep getting different responds to them

>>3173175
Yes
FWAP is for hobbyists and children

>>3173175
If you want to be a photocopying nigger sure

>>3173190
Get a load of this not-gonna-make-it

>>3173175
Oranges and apples, honestly. FwaP will introduce you to construction drawings whereas KtD is about drawing what you see.
The first books of the Sticky give a basis on different subjects:
> DotrsotB is a good first book if you find the other 3 "hard", the most entry level if you can ignore her blabbering
> KtD, drawing from life (plenty of exercises to build your confidence), basically a better DotrsotB but takes way more time to complete
> FwaP, constructing complex things from simple shapes (also, an introduction to the other Loomis' books, which can be intimidating if you aren't used to his style)
> P made easy, perspective explained (by opposition to FwaP who throws a few pages about perspective in your face and expects you to get it).
Armed with the ability to draw simple shapes in perspective and to observe properly, the guy is now ready to tackle more difficult subjects. Skipping one of those is asking for troubles later.

>>3170794
Poses are not compositions, look for gestures, flow, like vilppu vids and specially Mattesi's first force book.
For composition idk, I'd suggest making many very rough sketch thumbails that are very different iterations and see for yourself what looks cooler, also maybe freeze frames of some movies you think look cool and copy it to understand why it looks good

For creativity/being stuck also force yourself to do a specific project like comics or something with a deadline

>>3172380
idk either but it looks good because they're skilled, their understanding of form is so good they can make something nice without any flashy process

>>3170031
>bump?

Also what posture/arm position is the best to draw on a tablet? I bought an adjustable stand but I'm not sure about this

>>3173338
>what position is best

whatever feels best.
if it hurts you're doing it wrong, if you can't make a full motion its wrong.

>>3172380
often western storyboard artists draw that way. they want to slap the character out on the paper with the least amount of erasing possible

line is also a big deal over in asia. they have a very less-is-more sensibility, as a cultural ideal

>>3173348
to amend: it's not an aliased brush, its just the way they make the strokes.

>>3173056
the same things that make a good character design. the elements of design, applied. it has a personality and a purpose. or do you mean how to draw them?

>>3173571
what's pic related from?

which loomis book do i use for practice in construction and form?

I notice body construction is just 2 circles or cubes and a line connecting them, is there any reason to do this and not just combine the upper body into 1 curved shape? (naturally breaking it down later)
especially for more cartoony forms or looser gestures just using 1 shape feels simpler and natural.

>>3173009
Anything and everything is a potential "design element", esp. on a character design. Limiting yourself to "3 design elements" could mean 3 major "themes" you are trying to say through the design. Is the character aloof, big, and gentle? Is the character strong, hotheaded, and short? Are they interested in the paranormal, thin, and trustworthy. Stuff like that.

So I'm the type to read and study and look at a million resources but when it comes to doing work I either can't bring myself to practice or commit myself to trying to make something 'finished'. It's like I can't help but treat what I draw as all-or-nothing. It's either trash or something I have to commit to.

Any advice on overcoming this thought process? I feel the biggest thing I need at the moment is practice and mileage rather than theory.

>>3173341
I guess but thing is, having the tablet facing me hurts my arm and and having the tablet flat on a table is probably not good for my neck. Gonna experiment I guess.

>>3173332
I'll check those books out, and thanks for the other tips.

i read you're supposed to take breaks every so often to keep your wrist healthy. how often and for how long do you guys take breaks during a typical day?

Going through a book about anatomy. I know the Deltoid, Bicep, Tricep and Brachialis but the rest of them he doesn't bother telling us.

If someone could tell/show me what the rest of the muscles are I'd appreciate it.

>>3174057

My main issue is I want to finish a drawing as I see it without putting in the basic work. I got not idea how to use construction; the lines are always so light I can't seem them or so dark the erasing rapes the paper.

Also, basic things like:

Some book said drawers should stand (which doesn't explain animators or comic people), keep paper at a 90* angle, etc. Isn't it just better to do it how it works for you individually?

Can someone just tell me how to set up digital painting?

Wacom bamboo fun/Photoshop CS6

I just want it to work like a pencil or paint brush.

I'm looking for PS brushes specifically made to color comics

>>3174011
I use this http://www.workrave.org and it just tells me when to get up or look away from the monitor

>>3173766
>So I'm the type to read and study and look at a million resources
https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/media/overwatch.gamepedia.com/8/81/Hanzo_-_From_one_thing_know_ten_thousand_things.ogg

Why does everything I draw look crappy flipped around?

>>3174118
>>3174118
>I use this http://www.workrave.org and it just tells me when to get up or look away from the monitor
that looks pretty good. thanks anon; i'll give it a try.

>>3174026
What else? there's really nothing else on the wrist aside from the Ulna poking out. That picture is pretty much the simplified, practical way of drawing the arm.

>>3173571
Drawing them is putting things into perspective, which I can do. It's just making them look like actual buildings that could possibly exist is what's hard. The image you posted actually helps a lot. I've also been drawing a lot of 3-form combinations that have helped similar to pic related.

>>3174213
Whoops

>>3174059
If it's only for illustration try them out and see what feels better, if you want to do comics and animation too, CSP EX

>>3174119
I noticed it's like that even for some popular artists. Just flip more often I guess until you're gud. Don't overestimate yourself, human brain is shit.

When is 1 point perspective actually ok to use (for comics but I guess for anything)?

>>3174272
I can't flip it doing traditional though.

>>3174139
forearm stuff also the blue thing

>>3174317
Do you have a smartphone? Take pic, flip. Or just use mirror

how do I stop hating my commissioners?

i'm always nice and cordial, lots of pleases and thank you's, but they're so unhelpful most of the time, shit references, they take a long time to respond to the most basic of questions.

just a few tips to put up with them?

Where can I find krenz tutorials do I have to pay are they any good does he even paint in any of them

>>3174368
remind yourself that they're aiding you in buying [whatever you buy] and enable a lifestyle that is more preferrable than whatever you'd do without them

>>3174213
>>3173699
'101 things i learned in architecture school'. it's one of those stocking stuffer intro books, i scanned some of the interesting bits
http://www.mediafire.com/file/9zi90i5qgj5ilz8/101thingsilearnedinarchitecture_school.zip

>>3174513
thanks for sharing, anon! <3

I'm realizing that I have some real shit spatial intelligence because I started drawing pretty late and I can't intuitively turn angles in my head.

Like imagine a pole angled 45 degrees on the X plane, rotate the y axis 45 degrees towards you.

I had to bust out a calculator to find that the x axis length is 1/2^0.5 , around 0.707

What is the best way to train this skill? Should I just make a visual library of different angle combinations and memorize it?

I'm looking for info on scanning/photographing artwork for making prints. Are photos the best way to handle images that are too large for a scanner? Or should I be scanning sections and piecing together digitally?

>>3161063
Suppose I want to make spokes on a wheel in perspective in clipstudio. Is their a shortcut I could use?

I would like to know if there is a way to print images out that can include the brushstrokes.
So instead of them being flat pieces they have some element of 3d to them.
I'm sure you could get a super duper printer that does this but I just want to know for my normal everyday one.

It's unlikely but I have to ask.


pic related.

Any yuropoors here that know where to get that mythical "smooth newsprint" paper?
These Contés are cool and all but the paper I'm using seems to be shite

>>3174765
For your normal everyday printer? No. There are methods for raised printing that use clear ink, or textured UV varnishes, but none of those will look natural or give you a proper appearance of brush strokes, just a raised glossy texture that you can feel. You would also have to design that layer yourself rather than it being something the printer does on its own.

>>3174613
i'd say you're on the right track with your "volume knob" visualization there. but imagine that in perspective, imagine it as an ellipse. you can use ellipses to rotate stuff in perspective.
i'm not necessarily doing it correctly in my image, just approximating.
i would suggest looking at scott robertson's how to draw, he has a section for rotating things in perspective which will give you an exact method to do it.
personally, i would say that you always try turning the angle in your head first.
then, after that, follow the exact angle-rotation procedure and compare your guess against your new results and see how close you were.
i think you'll get better and better at doing it intuitively the more you do this.

>>3166557
thanks anon, i'll keep at it

>>3167202
Just draw whatever man. I drew for some fags on /b/ today. Go to threads were people want stuff drawn.
ask people for ideas if you can't make up your own.

>>3174882
>go to threads where people want stuff drawn
I did that a whole lot when I first started posting my work online a couple years ago. It's not worth wading through piles of joke requests and entitled shitbags to find the one anon in the thread who has decent ideas. I want to be able to draw for myself, not for some random fuckers on /b/

>>3174971
I usually have /a/ and /u/ drawthreads open just in case something interesting pops up.
Then I draw the idea it inspires and post it for the (you)s, if people don't like it then fuck them idgaf anyways, but it gives you a captive audience who's forced to give you feedback. And unlike tumblr or DA and things of that nature you don't need to be a dick sucker to get views since its all anonymous anyways.

>>3174973
>forced to give you feedback
if by feedback you mean either "this is good thank you" or "fuck you this is horrible", then I guess so. The average anon is not equipped to give meaningful critique by any stretch of the imagination. I mean, we're on a board dedicated to art critique and most people still can't hack it.

And how is doing requests not the quintessential act of dick-suckery? You're still just drawing things that other people want in exchange for attention, the only difference is that people are now telling you exactly what to do. If anything it's worse than trying to get notes on tumblr/DA because you have even less freedom

>>3175001
You still have freedom of creativity to do what you want.
and like so often pointed out here, someone all you need is "the head looks funny"

I want to keep drawing, but I've been depressed for so long that it feels like I can't even draw simple forms anymore.

What's a way for me to overcome this?

>>3175044
Ah, asking strangers for mental health advice, instead of seeking professional help is a great idea

>>3175044
Do it anyways. Don't know what to tell you for your depression, though.

Any guide on drawing kids without it coming out looking like some deformed midget

>>3174855
Thank you. I'll look into it.

>>3174851
So like stickers/embosses? How much would are we talking for one of these?

>>3161082
Moatdd. He regularly posts on that Discord Art Server, I talked to him in the anime-manga channel. Nice guy.

You can see him there alot if you wanna talk to him. Just be aware that shit is filled with underage retards.

>>3175166
>>3135414

>>3161500
Don't be so concerned with generating style, first learn the fundamentals. You see art can be seen as learning to write, you first have to learn how to draw the letters, soon after this you naturally develop your own unique handwriting. It will eventually come, just now focus on learning the fundamentals as prescribed by 4chan with the heavily memed yet ever so useful Loomis and eventually people will recognise your own unique style. Btw check out Zin Lim's youtube channel helps a ton.

>>3161500

>>3161920
Don't look for a app but rather look for a little mannequin to buy at your local art store, this will help you greatly as you can learn to draw from life with the shadows provided by the mannequin.

How old is to old? how do you manage to get some spare time for practice?

I am 29 years old and I have lost almost all will to live, there was a huge earthquake in my country and I didn't even moved I wanted to die crushed, I have like 4 hours of free time thanks to wageslaving and I just want to use them to sleep or watch a movie.

I feel like I am to old to learn how to draw, despite drawing most of my teens and youth, i am still a beginner, I think i have no time left anymore.

I tried these several resources and they helped me, if one method doesn't work try another one. The main goal is to get the picture there.

This helped me master faces play it in slow mo though
Edizkhan face planes
https://youtu.be/rc84ZmrSEzY

Zin Lim YouTube Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/zinlimpresent

Frank Riley Method
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9LugJ4DrjW9aWlGRHQ4b2FuUTg/view?usp=drivesdk

Several great free tutorials regarding different mediums
Art graphica
http://www.artgraphica.net

>>3162703
Check the Youtube channel Zin Lim he has a video regarding that.

>>3162973
Try Loomis he's much better as well as try download and try the Chris Bargue Method drawing course pdf online. also check this video out it helps guide one with the bargue method https://youtu.be/Pj5F2y2dXUU

>>3163152
Loomis good sir

>>3163302
Check this link out Anon it explains to you the different methods of drawing

http://julialundmanmidlock.blogspot.co.za/2012/05/advanced-open-studio-with-sadie-part.html?m=1

>>3164560
Check out Zin Lim on YouTube anon, from what I see the artist made use of Large colour planes. And a simple pallette. Though I recommended if you would like to paint like that first you'd have to know how to draw, ok but let's say you're to lazy for such. Well then I reccomend you first turn the image into a grayscale to make things much more simple. Now then make use of only 3 values/ colours in your pallete your darks the blacks, your midtones the whites, then your highlights the whites. (Remember to have the image primted in black and white and directly parrel to your painting surface).After this blur your eyes and till you see the picture as closest to the 3 maim values. Now then first apply all the darks first as best as you can (basically like a stencil) until it looks similar to your blurred vision image. Then do this with your other colours as well with the blurred vision until they look similar. Then refine on your detsils

>>3164963
Play classical music while you draw and drink some coffee sir.

>>3166978
Style will come naturally the same way you're handwriting naturally developed after learning to write. The only difference is here instead of learning to write, you need to learn the fundamentals, and you know where the fundamentals come from reading our heavily Memed Loomis, I found the book successful drawing especially helpful as well as the Bargue Drawing Course. Also as a guide to the Bargue drawing course there's this video on YouTube that guides you on how to do a Bargue drawing.

Tell me /ic/ what are the absolute essentials for painting in acrylics? I'm starting from nothing so I have to buy the canvases, brushes, and paint. What colors, what brushes, what canvases. I've mainly worked in digital but I want to make the leap into trad, I've always wanted to work in trad.

Because I'm a poorfag, I only have a budget of 100 USD for this month, but I will keep on buying things every month if I need to. So what do I prioritize first?

>>3175978
You're old enough to know not everyone can do certain things anon. You're past the age of believing you can "do whatever you want". If your lifestyle can't accomodate drawing, a skill that takes time, dedication and hardwork, then you won't be able to do it. Of course, by "do it" I mean the same as what people here call "making it". Working with art, being sucessfull with it and such. You can still problably draw OK studying a few hours a week. You're problably there already if you've been at it all these years as you mention it. Anything above that... well, most likely just won't happen.

>>3176333
Id focus on paint, you can get some good quality stuff on amazon. Liquitex or something. I went with a pack of winsor and newton for about 60 bucks but theres cheaper. For canvases i just had a big wood board cut into pieces for like 26 bucks, that gave me a lot of painting surfaces. You have to gesso them though, theres tutorials. The brushes are for me the least important, i get them from the dollar store and they can be pretty good quality

>>3176344
For colors of paint, what would you prioritize first?

>>3176347
Start with the primary colors, you can mix them into the others you need
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DYGi18U4D4M

>>3176353
Thanks man, I've never seen this channel before, good stuff

>>3176362
Yeah hes great, its mostly about oil painting but theres still a lot of general info about painting. Good luck

Any tips on how to avoid neck pain and back pain from drawing?

>>3176490
Sit upright. Learn to work with good posture, don't hunch over a table. That's why they invented easels and drafting tables and drawing boards.

>>3176353
Great video. This is what you learn in color theory, as well, working from primaries outwards to tertiaries, and beyond. We learned this in advanced watercolor, too - we started with the primaries, no white, no black. One of the first things the teacher taught us was to mix black - equal mixtures of red, yellow and blue will make black. (with the right kinds of red nd blue, we used cad medium for both) Then, we studied black color in real life - it's very rare to have pure black anywhere in nature - most are hues of black, they favor one of the primaries - like a black thats got a lot of yellow, or red, or blue. Once you learn it, you can put on a black tshirt, and black jeans, and figure out why they don't quite go together - the t-shirt is yellowish black, the jeans are blueish black. Then we learned how to mix most colors, and how to make most colors, and only buy new colors for special colors that are harder to mix, or impossible, like ultramarine. A plein air kit really only needs the primaries.

Is there any good tutorial about multiple vanishing points?
Whjat are some rules? Like I suppose you can put the vanishing points of different objects wherever you want as long as they're on the horizon line ? But what about the spacing of the points? Like say we have objet 1 and 2. 1 got vanishing points A and B and 2 got C and D. Should the distance between A and B be equal to the distance between C and D?

>>3175978
I'm 37 and I started working seriously this year. I still suck big time but I'm super happy I forced myself through depression and age.
I suppose it depends on what you wanna do with art. But if you got time to work and analyze your work instead of drawing mindlessly, I'm pretty sure you can do something even at an old age.
4 hours a day sounds hard for people like us to get the time back. We learn slower now usually so we probaly need to work more than younger artists.
The "luck" I have is that my work is nights only and I'm alone at work so I can draw and use all my time for this. Maybe find a job where you can do that? Or at least cut all distractions. I stopped playing vg it helped big time.

So I just bought a 12 pack of warm grey copics since I had enough rewards cash from my credit card. I've never worked with markers before, how do I start to learn how to use them?

Anyone up for a suicide pact?

>>3177406
Shut up and draw or I'll kick your ass

>>3176698

I cant I sell cellphone plans :(

I don't even get hard at night anymore.

>>3177468
>>3177468
Well, sorry buddy I know it's hard. In your case I don't see any solutions other than :
1) trying to use all your spare time/cut out on sleep (depends on the persons, I'm total shit with less than 8 hours but some peopleI know can have shorter nights regularly without being affected too much) and draw really mindfully
2) changing job/working part time
3) Drawing as a hobby
4) Giving up (maybe you actually can and have fun with other stuff. I can't, tried many times and I always end up coming back to drawing otherwise I feel like my life has no purpose)

>>3172695
no one knows? i tried jdownloader and imagehost grabber on both artstation and behance without luck. this sucks.

Any personal tips and tricks to improve drawing ellipses?

Been doing the warm ups for a while, but I feel I am just not improving as much as I could.

does drawing from imagination improve ability to draw from imagination? or should one just do studies in order to improve

>>3179132
> does drawing from imagination improve ability to draw from imagination?

not really, all you need to do is practice your fundamentals and construction so you can be as good as Proko in drawing from imagination

>>3179148
>practice your fundamentals and construction so you can be as good as Proko in drawing from imagination
This is what irks me. Reading Loomis and watching Proko didn't improve my drawing ability meaningfully. Even after knowing that a head is a ball plus a lower jaw, I was unable to draw heads from below and above from imagination until I looked at reference and memorised.

I'm unironically starting to think construction is a meme.

>>3174026
from left to right and going downwards. only mentioning the color coded masses

Front View:

(yellow)Medial head of the deltoid
(orange)anterior head of the deltoid
(green)lateral head of the tricep
(pink)bicep
(yellow)brachialis
(blue)ridge muscle group (extensor carpi radialis longus and brachioradialis grouped)
(red)extensor carpi radialis brevis (we only see that one from this angle)
(purple) flexor group (flexor carpi radialis, palmaris longus and flexor carpi ulnaris)

Back view:

(orange) posterior head of the deltoid
(yellow) medial head of the deltoid
(green) tricep grouped
(yellow) brachialis
(blue) ridge muscles grouped (ext carp rad longus and brachioradialis in that order)
(purple) flexor carpi ulnaris (similar to the extensor group on the front, we only see this one from this view while supinated)

Side view:

(yellow) posterior head of the deltoid
(orange) medial head of the deltoid
(yellow) anterior head of the deltoid
(green) tricep grouped
(yellow) brachialis
(pink) bicep
(blue) ridge muscles grouped (ext carp rad long, brachioradialis)
(red) extensor group (extensor digitorium, extensor carpi radialis brevis)

give a read to some anatomy book, I reccomend anatomy for sculptors.

>>3161063
How do you hold a pen?

How do I line weight?
When do you use thin or thick lines?

Does anyone know how to make the Rocker Ring on the Cintiq 13HD zoom in and out smoothly on SAI or CSP?

Atm, I can't just hold it down to zoom in and out precisely; I have to press it each time, which zooms in and out a set distance.

I'm pretty sure it's possible because that's how it worked the first time I used it, but I think I screwed up the settings.

Is there some sort of cheat I could use in CSP to create a torus? Damn things are a bitch to make.

>>3180011
This is one thing Photoshop has, that's a useful tool - 3D shapes. You can create primatives in the app, paint them, light them, and when you're done, render the layer as art, and then integrate it into your work. I've used it a LOT.

When drawing with my elbow/shoulder, is it okay to rest my arm on the table for support? I'm a weakling, so holding my arm up for too long hurts.

Also, I don't have any blocks to draw, should I just draw cups and whatever I can find? I'm worried the stuff printed on cups and things I have will distract me from really seeing the shape. Should I just try and ignore it or cover them with paper?

>>3179658
use thinner lines on parts facing the light; use thicker lines for parts facing away from light.

why does everyone on /ic/ hate /ic/?
i see so many posts like "this is why ic sucks" or "everyone on this board is shit because of xyz", do something about it then!
if some people put 1/5th of the energy they put into shit posting, degrading other peoples work, and arguing about which artists suck, into making the board better, it could go a long way.
what are some ways we could improve the board?
here are some ideas i had
> more exercise threads
post a specific exercise or study and people post their replies, encourages people to get drawing instead of all the off topic conversation going on
>critique for every image you post
"it looks like shit" is not a critique. if you can't explain in art terms why its not good, maybe you shouldn't be critiquing it.
> non begs, occasionally visit beg and offer critique
one of the biggest complaints i see inside beg is that only beg artists are providing critique, so there is not much growth

Does anyone remember which sycra video he talked about a friend that had amazing line confidence and accuracy and it turned out she filled her sketchbooks in only pen?

been doing traditional art for 4 years. ready to get a tablet. im stuck between Gaomon M106K and Huion New 1060 Plus. which is a better tablet? ill be using clip studio paint pro btw

weird question, but whats a good lamp/light to get for traditional/digital art? my room is pretty dark so ive been needing one. preferably under 50 bucks.

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>>3180179
Thick lines are also for parts closer to the camera/viewer right? So I guess you use either your method or the one with closer=thicker lines? Maybe you can combine both idk. I'm shit.

are there any nibs that don't deteriorate quickly? I feel like since the nib is uneven from using it just messes up my lines

>>3181252
yeah, you could combine. you can also play with line thickness when forms are pressing against each other -- good for fleshy stuff.

Where can I get reference photos free of copyright?

>>3171013
Do Istebrak's and "Marks drawing tutorials"(moatdd)'s exercises

what sites can be use as gallery/portafolio?