/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

she eat u

hey /beg/ mind giving me some advice? I feel like some stuff might be wrong with him and with the background. I'd like to have him walk in mud/muddy water but have close to no idea how to tackle a knee-deep flood with pencil.

Ref image was an old pic of a past girlfriend. This was from a couple months ago when i first got watercolors.

Any tips for watercolor? I just have the cheap tubes of primaries mostly, from wally world. I've been trying to delve into more traditional learnings, like knowing more about proportions and values and all that jazz. I've always gotten complements on shit i doodle, but I'm trying to get to where I'll be able to use that natural liking of fucking around, in combination with actual knowledge.

Is the rest of Steve Huston's head drawing class uploaded somewhere? I can't find it on cgpeers.

>>3160634
It is on cg peers

So i signed up for a classical drawing course, but it turns out we are mostly just left to ourselves to draw figures form the museum. I feel like i dont learn anything form it because i have problems depicting the forms in 3d. Any suggestions on what to do to get better at it, or if i should quit the course and do something simpler? i spent a whopping 4,5 hours on this, inversed it because of the light colours on the paper

>>3160554
looks pretty nice anon, the fabric and the hat however feel very odd. would love to see you finish this piece.

>>3160637
You should just finish it.

>>3160637
and 4 hours on this
i mean this should max take 20-60mins right?

>>3160639
i dont know how to proceed further. I mean i can see a few darker areas on the statue, but i cant understand how to put it on the paper

>>3160648
Ask some guy in your course then.

>>3160636
Weird. Searching for "Huston" only finds his courses that don't focus much on the head. I also tried searching for the titles of both the youtube video and the NMA course, but that didn't help either.
I'm talking about the course where the first 3 hours are on youtube.

>>3160657
Oh my bad that one isn't on there I think.

>>3160637
>>3160640
It takes as long as you need to. Academic drawing is glorified tracing, doing everything you can to trace without literally tracing. Use grids, plumblines, and measuring tools as a beginner. Eventually you'll be able to quickly do measurements in your head, almost subconsciously.

>>3160638
I know about the fabric. I'm not that good at wrapping it around. Would like some more about the hat. Wrong perspective, maybe?

Btw dw anon i'm proceeding to destroy the thing with my awful inking skills.

How is this?

>>3160874
Not sure if this is satire or not because it's pretty legit.

>>3160877
Thanks

Is a political cartoon.

>>3160874
Can you explain the political message?

>>3160894
Rubio's comment was not only factually false but really dumb. If anything, philosophy is one of the most important disciplines there is. Greek philosophy layed the foundation of civilization.

>>3160871
>hat:
idk, just feels like the hat should not look like that.
>ink:
IK how you feel senpai.

>>3160918

Post your work.

This is my first attempt at doing a landscape sketch. I used the opportunity to experiment with new pencil techniques, such as using the broadside of the pencil for the foundational sketching. How'd I do?

I did some random shit today trying to do new things, but it makes me frustrated. I can't do a profile drawing that looks ok, so i just gave up doing it.
I feel like i have the sameface syndrome, all my drawings have the same eyes, noses and lips, and just look boring. People usually tell me i draw well, but i always feel like i have no talent at all, everything i do look exactly the same.
I don't use references because i feel ashamed doing it, so all the stuff i did so far was from my mind.
You guys think i should try other style, or continue with it? And if i used references, would i perform better and do better expressions?

why do people crosshatch in photoshop

>>3160941
Because they want a crosshatched look for their drawing.

>>3160937

The whole point of using ref is to learn from it. You learn from real life or photos and then apply that knowledge into your own work.

You can't draw from your mind what your mind does not know.

Drawing from life/ref or studying it is to fill in your database with information that requires to draw something properly. And with that knowledge you exaggerate or simplify it and turn it into your own personal art form.

Drawing from imagination is not pulling things from a magical plane. Without the knowledge of how things work you WILL always produce shit.

Learn the rules first before you try to bend or break it.

>>3160937
>>3160950
Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30BOsR_tzYA

hands and the connection of the torso to the upper limbs is fucked

I just don't understand, kill me.

>>3161087

>>3160590
p-pine?

Which book should I check out if I want to work on construction?

>>3161093
Huh?

I don't understand the loomis ball. How do I know how far down the middle line has to go.

>>3160936
crits, anyone?

>>3161129
You need more value contrast to make different areas of it easier to read. As it is now some areas seem cluttered because of the lack of darks and lights. I suggest you use some darker colors.

>>3161095
What do you mean you "Want to work on Construction"?

Is there another good source on head construction, I might be retarded cause loomis and proko aren't helping.

What's the easiest method to learn construction?

>>3161095
>>3161149
>>3161162

I recommend

Michael Hampton-Figure Drawing_ Design and Invention

I just realized csp has tilt as I'm used to trad. And here I installed corel bloatware for nothing.

What is the best and most consistent method to utilize when it comes to foreshortening?

Anyone have a guide or recommended video drawing tutorial?

Didn't get any crits on last thread so posting this dude here

>>3160932
http://forum.sycra.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=99281

I'm stil very much /beg/ meself, but just wanted to give some honest crits to the guy.

Is there any free software that will let me use tapered lines?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMR5ZEyibiE

Go to 9:40 in the video to see what I'm referring to.

>>3161286

Who all does their linework on paper and then touches it up/adds color digitally? I've been doing okay, but I can't help but feel as though I've been doing it pretty inefficiently or otherwise just missing some obvious techniques.

>>3161299
Do you mind giving me a rundown of what you do?

I think I'm getting better.

>>3161286
passes the thumbnail test with flying colors

>>3161374
Not bad anon. but not great.

>>3161374
Her shoulders literally go the opposite way in terms of tilt. If this means "better" you must not know left from right, but good job.

>>3161400

Forgot to say is pay attention to the direction of the center line, the axis between the center of the color bones, down the sternum, to the navel, and than the crotch.

get that right you get the gesture right and your 80% there.

>>3161400
your redline failed just as hard

>>3161400
>>3161406

I appreciate the redline, thanks man.

>>3161418


If you care so much about my work you could at least be helpful as well.
.

>>3161418
Not that OP, but gestures are pretty quick, you could show a better one
The point of a critique is to point out faults that the original artist can't spot alone

100 days in: I still have no idea what the FUCK I am doing

Another failure desu

>>3161571
Are you even trying to draw what you see? It looks like you don't care. Oh also that is a shit ref, pretty portrait lighting tends to hide important information especially when it comes to construction. If it takes ten minutes to get an angle measured correctly, then it'll take ten minutes. Stop trying to fuckign rush everything and enjoy the process. But most importantly get not shitty refs.

>>3161574
I think once I see it isn't going well then I kind of just rush the rest so I can try again but I'll keep trying, slower this time

>>3161374

are you done fucking around? you cant seriously think youre showing improvement with your half-assed work.

>>3161477

100 days of never learning how to use reference and still drawing from what you think you know about faces.

btw, that's why they look like shit

>>3161571

Do more construction anon. Just doing the ball and stick won't cut it unless you're already skilled.. I'm not even past beginner but I know whenever I try to do a realistic portrait I try to map out the eye sockets and gesture of the eyebrows and cheek and even shadow shapes sometimes. If you haven't done so i recommend Hamptons facial construction method but of course modify it to whatever face your constructing

Need help on color and perspective.

itspiss

>>3160505
I drew a lot.

itsrevolting

>>3160950
>>3160961
I used a reference pic and did something like the guy in the video, but i think i fucked the anatomy and stuff like that. But i am kinda pleased with the result, i never did anything like this. Should i continue drawing poses to get an ideia to how stuff works, then move to hands and faces?

>>3161706
weak ass b8

>>3161336
Pretty new to photoshop and adobe in general so I'm sure there's much better ways, but generally I take an image trace of the linework, and then manually paint in all the colors (with separate layers for highlights, shadows, etc.)

Part of my problem is I'm not entirely sure what to CALL the tools and techniques I need so I haven't been able to find any useful tutorials that weren't incredibly general with it.

>>3161717
pic related is what I've done so far. First time using photoshop so it's been more of a source of practice than anything, but I'm happy with where it's going.

Would I benefit at all as a complete beginner who started drawabox few days ago if I just jumped straight to some posture drawing attempts?
I got a few spare minutes every now and then, I sometimes grow tired of boxes and would like to try something different. I will suck for sure but will I cause some irrepairable damage to my skillz if I try to grasp figures nonexisting actually understanding them firstly?

>>3161726
Draw a box is a meme. A lot of the stuff recommended in the sticky is a huge waste of time and the reason for all the desperation threads.
Learn to copy first, then you're free to do anything else.

>>3161726
Drawabox misses a lot of the reasons and methods used in the actual Dynamic Sketching class. He puts a lot of emphasis into boxes and lines because his skills are so low that that's what's easiest for him to grade. In the actual class, that basic stuff only lasts a week and it's just meant as a warmup rather than an actual exercise. All of his stuff is fine for practice, but don't think for a second that someone who stole a class from someone else for the money knows what the fuck he is talking about.

>>3161732
>>3161730
Oh shit. Glad I asked then. Thanks guys. I will try to do some postures then(first few were fucking painful) and add a grain of salt to my drawabox experience. Gotta admit that it is relaxing tho.

why are gestures so hard, everyone I do feels so shit. pls help.

does anyone have some god tutorial/vid (most preferably) or book about inking?

>>3161755
good*

>>3161745
You look like you're doing pretty well. Maybe try playing around with the directions the head is facing to help with the dynamic feeling?

why is drawing so haaaard my atrophied NEET brain can't handle itt

>>3161745
loomis won't teach ya good gesture (I'm guessing those are loomis mannikins). Like sure hew wants you to keep the curves of the mannikin and keep em active and loose but he doesn't do much to make you practice gesture.

Instead, go for vilppu, learn his method and start loosening up.

>>3161641
Keys to Drawing, anon.

>>3161706
funniest post i've seen in a while, thanks for the kek

r8

>>3161778
What changed? Looks a little better than your stuff normally does.

>>3161784
probably lack of variety in poses is what you are mentioning there, i think i only have 4 that i can do well enough to finish and therefore post.
any advice for me?

>last thing I can find that Hetza (Hellshock) posted was in 2016

Is he dead, or under a different alias. He's my favorite artist.

>>3161778
the sternocleidomastoid never curves like that. Watch where it actually connect.

>>3161760
yeah the head could use alot more movement4sure.

>>3161768
yeah im currently reading drawing figures for all its worth(loomis), I looked up this vilppu guy, and his technique is pretty interesting, can't really wrap my head around it. I'll try to look into it more.

>>3161862
now that I look at it, the dynamic lighting is really f'd up. ;(

>>3161862

Michael Hampton for figure
Steve Huston for head/portraits

>>3161866
is loomis really that bad? I am enjoying his stuff.

heard alot about hampton as well, got it recommended to me a couple times now.

(pic is old drawing I cel shaded)

Thoughts?

>>3161868
Nothing wrong with loomis.

>>3161871
Pretty good. That thumb though.

Is Carpal Tunnel Syndrome a death knell for an artist? Or can it be overcome/managed forever?

I feel like now that I have it. I'm done professionally as an artist, since It's clear I'm more susceptible to it than other people. It will just keep coming back my entire life because practicing art can trigger it in the future.

>>3161953
It can be managed forever unless it's severe, but if you let it get to that point, you're an idiot anyways.

>>3161957

It's not severe and when I take anti-inflammatory medicine, it gets noticeably better for a while. Basically mostly mild pain, sometimes moderate pain for short durations. Don't have problems sleeping.

The loomis meme the bridgman meme or the hogarth meme?

>>3161980
Why not all three?

Tell me how shit I am.

still very new

tried doing a quick sketch from behind, using someone elses work as reference.

>>3162039
embarrassing

>>3162050
At least he has good tastes with dfc though he should really go true flat.

what do you think about this one?

>>3162063
Shoulders look too broad for a woman

>>3162039
Your mother would cry in disappointment at both the content and your skill or lack thereof

kind of my first real effort into one whole piece. what do you guys think?

>>3162087
not enough effort

currently working on this and would like some honest opinions, especially about pussy and asshole cuz its the first time I drew them I think.
also would shit like this be worth anything as comissions?

>>3161287
Where is this photo?

>>3162100
press the blue triangle on the post and click "image search"

>>3160898
and now civilization is crumbling

Holy fuck. Next level of draw a box is in environmental destruction. This is kicking my ass.

Anyone have good sources for things like this?

leme uh

>>3162161
cute, but draw bigger. Flaws become more apparent when line thickness decreases.

can i get a critique on this?

>>3161574
>>3161590
>>3161591

a man made of salt

>>3162170
Why do you want critique on the drawing of someone else?

>>3162171
except i did give him good advice unlike the other two tards

>>3162173
its a beginner thread so im posting beginner art

>>3162181

>>3162181

I'm kinda of happy that without too much trouble I am getting the sizes of the head, torso. and pelvis accurately enough. I missed the mark on angles and I still need to work on the limbs. Well, again, I did this without stopping every minute to measure anything. I still need a lot of work but I need to tell myself I'm making progress before I go mad.

It's not good, but I feel like I finished something

>>3162096
No, I wouldn't pay for this. Particularly you need to work on making the face look more believable from the side. I realize that this is a very stylized drawing, but even so, the angle for the face looks weird, and the hair doesn't seem to follow any laws of physics, just sits there flat and straight like a bed of spikes.

Can I get a critique?

new brush very fun to practice blocking in values.........

>>3162212

>>3162159
That's literally the box rotation Drawabox has you do.

So after spending 6 hours checking out video tutorials and looking at various guides over the internet Ive made some determinations about foreshortening:
1. Theres MANy different methods to possibly learn and its best to try them all and find the one that works best 4u
2. The phrase 'some amount of guesswork' appears in nearly every fuckin guide. This isnt precise
2a. Know how overlapping lines work and where they cross over spatially.
3. Thinking in 3D space is the 2nd most crucial aspect to foreshortening.
4. The most crucial aspect (at least for figure drawing) of foreshortening is knowing the anatomy of the thing being foreshortened, be it a limb or torso or entire body. This is especially important because without knowledge of the muscle shapes being foreshortened its just random line guesswork instead of directed line guesswork

What does /ic/ know about foreshortening?

>>3162256
It's perspective and there's no way of getting around it by not drawing, so hurry up and get drawing.

>>3162262
I am drawing?????

I fucking hate painting, every god damn tutorial on digital painting isn't actually about painting, its just a video on basic shading. They spend 20 minutes talking about how important blocking in values is and then say "now add details", and speed through all the actual fucking painting.

>>3162274
Because that's all it really is, beginners are the ones who overcomplicate every process.

Currently 19, last sketch was in school 8 years ago & i was the badest in my class, always got a 6 (should be F in US). So, its the first time since then i got a pencil in my hand. Do you guys think i can develop some skill? And what can i do better to archieve this? My goal is to make about 10 drawings from objects i see per day

>>3162279
Anyone can learn to draw. Read the sticky, pick up keys to drawing. Learn how to draw from observation right.

>>3162277
if thats all it is why is the last 2 hours of tutorials sped up after they are done with the block in? If thats all it is why do certain colors look brighter or darker next to each other regardless of their actual value. Why even call this shit painting tutorials, they are nothing but 20 minutes talking about the most basic shit like this.

>>3162305
Because the block in is the most important part, after that is just smoothing is out which most advanced artists would think others find boring to watch because it really is just a brainless process after you've finished the block in. Color is a wholly complex thing, there's no simple answer that could be given in a sentence. Painting is just the process in which the art is made, everything else is built upon the fundamentals.

How do i draw clothes and armor and shit on a figure?

Stop using sharp black lines

Use a brush that doesn't have full opacity

Make that sky a little more blue

>>3162310
If you understand construction, you can do anything with a figure. Pretty much learn how to draw and how to draw figures and you'll understand the next step.

>>3162198
i like the colours but i know nothing about colour so maybe thats not a compliment i dunno anon

I don't know how light works

>>3162349
its all there, whats not to get

>>3162351
Why is red so much larger than the other colors? It takes up like half the bar.

>>3162351
better?

>>3162361
add lends flare

>>3162367
Now I know what she is looking at

https://picarto.tv/smileyrichie taking requests or watch me draw!

>>3162170

I know this is from one of those books, and that I am firmly in the /beg/ category, but I know horses okay, so I gave it a go, and here's a shitty red line.

>cheek shape (cheek deformed, placed wrong)
>ear shape (too squat)
>eye placement (too high/close)
>leg shape (poorly defined, sausage-y, closer front leg is thinner than further front leg, back leg has devolved completely)
>missing leg (where is the right back foot, it should be carrying weight in this image, leaving it out is just plain lazy)
>chest/shoulder muscles weird (i don't even know what's going with this horse's front)
>neck shape (kind of blocky? don't know, looks wrong)
>muzzle shape (nose/muzzle too big)

>>3162378
nah its not a book its from draw a box, the sub-reddit that funds "isis". Its in the filename, your horse is very nice, I can't unsee how silly the draw a box horses head looks now.

>>3162381
I will have to look more closely into this draw a box thing, because I thought that was a book series for some reason.

And yeah that head is weird. Like some horses have dished faces and some horses have roman noses or jug heads but no horses have jacked up faces like that.

>>3162148
Better blame the guys who had us set pretty good for a few thousand years that 99% of people know nothing about

made these with help from sycra. idk. does doing these smaller drawing work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ufz75UvHs

Eight minute study from my first live-drawing class. It was a lot of fun actually.

>>3162213

>>3162688
Why was it fun? because you got to see boobies in person?

>>3162726
I think that these specific texture brushes are a bad choice because the texture doesn't match up with the hair/skin but I don't really have any suggestions for other texture brushes as I haven't been able to find any really good one.

>>3162729
because drawing is supossed to be fun, if you are not enjoying it then stop doing it

how did I do? really like the eyes. dont like the faces tho...

>>3162895
could u share the ref?

>>3162952
https://sketchfab.com/models/30f43907f7814582b5dacbbadbabbe6d

I have to much freetime.

>>3162967
oh geez that a nice reff. ayes are way to small thought.

>>3162978
my eyes are too small or the refs are?
its really bad that i honestly cant tell just by looking
also dont fall for the sycra meme

>>3162989
on your drawing, if possible try to screen the angle of your reff and overlay it over your pic. so see where ur mind went wrong.

>>3163001
this is approximately better right?

>>3162212

Share the brush?

>>3163004
still on the small side, but I might be the fact that hes lacking eyeslids, eyelashes, ect.

btw take everything I say with a grain of salt, im also very/beg/

>>3163053
The values on the ball look good, but that cast shadow looks funny.

>>3163004
>>3163030
How come you're trying to fit your reference into a loomis head instead of just measuring it out?

>>3163084
I started doing that as well, it feels like it helps me do better loomis heads from imagination if I deconstruct refs instead of measuring them

>>3163053
And a quick study of my tea strainer. I pussied out and tried to simplify the mesh, it was too intimidating.

>>3163077
Thanks. Yeah, the shadow is the weak point, hardly even looks like a shadow. Is it the angle of it or how I handled the values? I feel like it looks stupid where it meets the ball at the bottom. It was from imagination if that explains anything.

>>3162838
>drawing is supposed to be fun
you must be new here

>>3163088
The angle of the shadow is what's wrong, the values need less work.

>>3163092
Now that you mention it, it's probably supposed to be more along these lines? I should probably not place the shadow before I've started drawing the ball.

>>3163094
Yes, that seems right

>>3160508

>>3161667
>>3161863
>>3163081

What you think?

>>3163071

if you're /beg/ you shouldn't give critiques

Can someone give me an advice with reflective surfaces?

I can render matte surfaces but with relections no.

In my painting, I can't get a pleasant look also I cant use very good the custom brush. The design is also awful.

>>3163165

Just study armors...

First thing I have ever done. Im starting inktober today as well

can i get a critique?

>>3163205

Use a better quality ref.

S curve shapes are really good for defining gestures.In the leg we see that S pattern clearly, but what about the arm?
Is the a formula like in this image for the arm?

>>3163219
>defining gestures
Good joke, there's a reason S works for the legs and its because that's how the legs balance on the ground. You need to make sure the arms balance with the whole body as well and that's all there is to it. There's no formulas, stop looking for them. Just draw it as it is.

>>3163218
No, use bad ref to give prominence to the large shapes of light and shadow

Any good resources for fully clothed gestures? Similar to normal gesture sites but with actually clothed people?
I like the function of those sites, but I can't really do them in public without getting a lot of commotion, even the "clothed" option is typically a bit much for public consumption.
Plus I just need to work of gesture on clothes so i figure it hits both at once.

>>3163260
Hows this?
http://www.characterdesigns.com

>>3163264
really great actually, not exactly what i was going for but works perfectly.

>>3163226

You can just squint your eyes or zoom out.

>>3162545
you aren't really trying, even if you think you are. it takes thousands of hours of practice to be able to draw a face in 10 minutes. right now you are sketchily drawing in symbols of what you think your reference looks like instead of drawing what it actually shows you, and you aren't taking your time. in the redline, you can see the volumes of shadow,midtone and highlight that exist all over your reference's face. you need to focus on getting the proportions, locations, and value of these areas correctly first, before you work in the detail of the drawing. I didnt redline the hair because it is largely gradient, but the same is true of the hair. it has vivid bright highlights that transition to dark shadows.

How do I draw more accurately /beg/?

>>3163343
go slowly and try a whole lot of times until you get it right. do this hundreds of times until it takes you fewer tries to get it right

How do i measure the reference?

>>3163346
Is it a passive process?

>>3162561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovSAXB2NHqc

>>3163350
no

>>3163343
Try looking at negative space to fix angles and measurements when drawing

does anyone have any input on this? im having trouble with the snow and finding out how to paint the snow on the trees without it looking weird.

>>3163343
Accuracy can suck my dick

>>3163350
largely yes, you can do exercises like timed figure drawings to try to increase your accuracy, or just spend more time constructing based on reference and forgo rendering until you're satisfied with your accuracy. (i.e. do 2 construction-only drawings when you would generally be doing one drawing with construction and rendering) ultimately though it just takes time to get your hand to match what your eye is telling you

>>3163357
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I don't have a drawing to show but I do have a question: the rush to practice and get better at everything at once is making me physically sick and at the same time it confuses me so much that I end up having no idea what to practice next because there's just so much to do.
How do I effectively learn to overcome this? It legitimately feels like I'm going nowhere just copying from photos and real life day in and day out, analyzing etc. Am I just expecting too much from myself?
I've also been practicing for almost two years, this problem isn't new by any means.

>>3163364
post drawings, in 2 years you should be out of beg

>>3163356
its as easy as 1... 2... 3!

haha!

Okay, after some study I got this.
I'm still having trouble with reflections but I think it looks better also it looks more clean.

>>3163368
>in 2 years you should be out of beg
kek

>>3163361
Thanks for the answer.

>>3163368
I don't have any right now, and I'm definitely not out of beg, which only makes the rush worse.

>>3163374
>Layer 46

>>3163046
Devin Korwin

>>3163387
haha yes. I'm beg.

I'm study reflections so I tried a lot of times. any suggestions anon?

Any tips for drawing a hand pinching with the thumb and pointer finger? Also any general tips for keeping the fingers from getting too thin or thick in that side view?

>>3163395
Pinch your cheek and take a photo of it from the angle that most closely resembles what you want to do

>>3163366
looks like a marble statue, pretty cool

>>3163408
Thanks. Brighter tit almost came out photorealistic but rest didn't go as well (gave up after the trainwreck in lower left). I'll probably do some studies of marble statues later.

>>3163366
Ref?

I won't give up...

>>3163425
What won't you give up?

>>3163422
I just did it by imagination. Lack of anatomy knowledge made it really hard with the lower part, though, so I stopped after having trial & errored for an hour.

>>3163418
yeah, I noticed that too. Maybe you lost focus and needed a break to finish the rest of it, Going with fresh eyes into a piece is always better Imo.

hi friends, i've been working on face construction with Hampton's method (books and videos), could you critique these faces? they all look pretty strange to me but i'm having a hard time figuring out what in particular is creating the strangeness and how to avoid that during construction

please no bully

>>3163429
Art is my passion but I can not afford college so sometimes I feel sad because all my friends from AP-Art class went to college.

I work 10-12 horus a day. sleep 6. then I just have 3 or 4 hours to do Art. That is what I'm doing. I won't give up.

>>3163444
Sometimes you can get financial aid depending on the college you go to--I get around 25000$ in grant money after transferring to a university from a community college. No guarantees but it's worth looking into.

Literally started drawing around a month ago. My first drawings looked like complete shit, so I definitely feel like I'm making some progress. Anyway, looking for criticism on what I can improve. Just working on faces atm.

>>3163205
Fuck you

>>3163460
The one on the left is awful

The one on the right is fine, but the left eye doesnt look the same

>>3163454
Thanks for the advice anon.

10 years later I will say proudly "I'm come from 4can /ic/"

>>3163444
What do you usually spend your 3-4 hours with or time on? Studies?

>get bored of drawing naked people
>download a bunch of scantily dressed cosplayer
>fun is reignited

Ahh, the power of my dick.

>>3163486
Upload folder and share

>>3163500
https://exhentai.org/g/967766/852a9c1d56/

>>3163505
>https://exhentai.org/g/967766/852a9c1d56/
i hate that girl. unattractive......

>>3163506
The idea is more that you can find cosplay sets with ease on there.

>>3163467
Any particular reason you think the one on the left is bad? Other than the head being a little too wide I think it's a bit better than the other.

Also, I realized that the eye was off on the right one after I started darkening it up. Getting the eyes lined up properly and in the right proportions is still something I'm practicing.

>>3163480
Studies, usually I make a study first before make a painting. After Make the painting I look for mistakes then I try to fix them. After that, I upload my painting here. The Armor pic that below is mine.

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>>3163467
Her head seems to be flat at the top, and her ear is too small

>>3163523
I can see what you're saying about the head. Didn't really notice that before. And every time I draw an ear it just feels huge or too small. It's easier to hide it behind the hair, which is what a lot of people do, but I enjoy drawing girls with ponytails or buns, so I need to learn how to get that right.

super messy but is it a decent match

>>3163536
This is far from a perfect edit but maybe you'll find it helpful in some way. Major changes: moved one eye a bit, made ribcage smaller, moved tits down, made torso shorter, moved one leg a bit higher and changed the angle

>>3163559
Thanks anon, I used a reference so I noticed a lot of the errors that you pointed out after the fact. 3D girls are much thicker and I have a hard time knowing if I want to go for that cartoony proportions or or realistic

Who /drawingwhiledrunk/ here?

>>3163460
Another try, with a bit more body this time. I think I did better with the eye placement.

Does this stuff count for Inktober, I guess I should learn how to shade with a pen

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>>3163654
You should learn proportions first.

>>3163657
I'm not sure what is an appropriate margin of error before I can say I should focus on something else.

>>3163662
Oh, forgot image.

>>3163662
Like 10%, you need to be close or else shading won't be done correctly either.

>>3163668
Ok, sounds doable I'd say that image was in the 40-50% range meaning I'm a long way away still.

will i ever get good i feel like my progress is very slow

>>3163680
Cause you're symbol drawing and don't even care to draw sonic the way he actually looks. I understand it's satisfying to be able to draw appealingly, but it does hold you back because you aren't drawing accurately.

>>3163662
Don't listen to them they are retarded, art isn't a step by step process like that. Just keep drawing and finishing things so you see your mistakes and work on learning everything over and over until you master them all, not one at a time.

>>3163680
Fuck off. He's just drawing for fun.

>>3163684
my entire personality is based off of making fun of other people

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>>3160590
wtf did you beat her?

What's the best guide to drawing interiors

I have a really hard time doing perspective and knowing what color pallet to choose

>>3163705
Interiors and perspective are one and the same. You have to be good at perspective before reliably being able to do interiors. Interiors are easy though, it's just projection. You learn it in Loomis, Perspective Made Easy and Scott's How to Draw. You're thinking too abstract with color pallet, just think simply. How would you design your own room if you could with all the money in the world? Repaint it? Add more furniture? A specific theme?

>>3163084
thats what you are supposed to do right?

>>3160937
I think you should learn how to draw. Actually learn, like starting at step 1, how to draw. Loomis/sticky

>>3163655
bad ref
idk why her eyes are like that
ayy lmao tbhne senpai

>>3163706
I dislike loomis and scott and I finished perspective made easy

Is there anything else could use as a guide line?

>>3163716
You can't dislike the fundamentals. You're not gonna make it with that attitude. You need to draw more straight and towards the VP. Use references as guides.

>>3162039
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>3163718
I dislike their specific teaching ways
It's much too technical for me to grasp, The measurements usually throw me off

For example fun with pencils made me scratch my head but tadashi ozawa's how to draw series and mark crilley's video series really clicked with me

So I was looking for other books that have the same sort of feel
Maybe some obscure japanese book on specifically interiors

>>3163723
There's no such thing as too technical, you just need to put in the time. Measurements throwing you off? They're there to make sure you're on point. You can keep looking if you want, references are the best thing there are for interiors.

Im stuck on the page 52 and 52 of loomis, the sketching figure. I copied his figures from the book pretty well, but my own figures from imagination are trash.

Am I supposed to do some of my own figures from imagination? It seems early into the book to start drawing figure from imagination.

Loomis doesnt seem to have any gesture practice integrated his book. Obviously, his book was written before quickposes was invented, but how should I integrate like 30 second gesture into practicing Loomis?

>>3163723
It really shows that you need the construction dude, the eyes are way off

>>3163727
Loomis's whole book is based on you doing things on your own (imagination) and using refs. You were already doing heads, I don't know why you think it's too early to be doing figures. It's the same thing, just more body parts.

>>3163731
Gesture in its simplest explanation is just an action.

>>3163731
villpu and prokos video

>>3163734
Yea, but I was wondering if integrating quickposes.com with the Loomis book was a good idea, or if I would get enough practice from the book itself.

>>3163733
Im not doing heads, thanks for the advice tho

>>3163732
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>3163741
Copying a book isn't enough, you always need references.

>>3163750
What book is this?

>>3163750
this looks like a trash guide
read loomis

>>3163762
fuck loomis

>>3163765
juni ito?

>>3163766
no thats loomis
and so is this

>>3163750
Yeah, but your drawing is way off. Imagine the line that goes from the ear to under and above the eyes, your curve is badly placed.

>>3163151
Ello?

>>3163186
Le country ball XD

>>3160874
Your bodies re all muscle my friend, you seem to lack the grasp of bone structure.
all of the people seem lumpy and fat.

for socrates and rene escartes the eyes are too low, they're basically at the mid section of the nose which is impossible.
The necks are too thick as well, im pretty sure marco rubio isnt a body builder with trapeziuses that large.
good luck my friend

Boys, i'm trying to get into the meme game, how's it going?

>>3163766
top jej

How important is that Picasso upside down exercise? Should I just draw it once and move on or should I keep drawing it until it's perfect

this is my first attempt from 2 days ago and I kept making new attempts and discarding them

was my first attempt good enough? (sorry if this sounded very autistic I'm just feeling directionless)

>>3163997
I think you should try the traditional section of ctrl+paint before going forward with the book, those videos teach you how to fix the problems you're having, measure more accurately and some tricks like looking at the specific angle or the negative space.
Anyway this is probably just because you're inexperienced and still have a symbol drawing habit, focus on drawing /a lot/ and analyzing what you do, don't just do one exercise. Analyze even when you're not drawing, keep the eye trained. Relax if results aren't good yet, but also ask yourself why they aren't.

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were can I get some "critique" ( someone to tell me what the hell am I supposed to do) with loli art? loli is banned everyfuckingwhere nowadays.

>>3164137
probs just best to get serious help.

>>3163922

You need depth. It's visually confusing. Aside from that you actually have the forms down quite well once I realized what they were. But it took me about 20 seconds of staring to even realize what was going on and that's not a good thing.

>>3163563

WHO THE FUK IS THIS

How do I draw the other eye the same

>>3161768
go with hampton figure drawing . villpu isn't very helpful at least from what i experienced reading it

>>3163165
ref?

I'm bad at art please help

I draw surrealism because Im not that good at proportions