/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3126338

>>3126339

>>3126340

Why is it a fat slag?

>>3126342

>>3126346

>>3126347

>>3126348

>>3126344
That's an excellent question. I hope you have the answer :^)

>>3126352

>>3126353

>>3126354
And a last one which is from the sticky.

>>3126353

Advanced autism. Jesus Christ, this should get some kind of award for the most roundabout way of painting possible.

>>3126339
>>3126340
>>3126338

these are terrible and I suggest nobody actually take these to heart

>>3126527
Why are they terrible?

>>3126527
Thanks for the advice. It's always a pain to know what tutorials are reliable or not.

Any tutorials on the nose and mouth please?

>>3126546
Wouldn't this not work because the commissioner could just screenshot or give his account to paypal and check the DMs where it shows the messages detailing the invoice details?

>>3126546
You can instantly tell from the lazy art and blatant shilling. Everyone is trying to cash in on these now, they're all just regurgitations of what you can find in the sticky.

>>3126563

anyojne have something for watercolor shading?

>>3126629
This looks familiar, is this KtD or is it Loomis?

>>3126563
>>3126643
From an old thread, maybe here : https://yuki.la/ic/2874434
Help yourself.

>>3126661
thank you

>>3126645
"famous artists course"

>>3126645
are there any krenz painting process videos???

>>3126346
But can't the client still see your PayPal e-mail from the invoice, giving them an opportunity for harrasment or just sending money with stupid shit like in the first example?

>>3126830
This is the most useful image I've seen this week. Nice job anon.

>>3126830
>Graphic Artists Guild-s Pricing & Ethical Guidelines Handbook
Kek, that book is a meme that only idiots with 0 economic literacy would believe
Dont fall for the meme kids, your work is worth what supply and demand dictates, and you are only the supply.

>>3127823
>Kek
>meme

>>3126661
I see this stupid bluish color painted on faces by so many artists nowadays. Why did it get so popular? Is drawing humans with postmortem skin color pleasant to the eye or something?

The best tutorials about things that aren't completely obvious are always in chinese, japanese or Korean and untranslated.

What brushes should i have to begin drawing?
i want to learn to draw like the pictures on anons piece >>3126661

>>3130208
Hard round and airbrush are enough to achieve thise kind of rendering.

>>3130209
where would i download these brushes?
sorry im completely new to digital art

>>3130210
All you need is here :
>>>1579290

>>3130213
thanks anon

>>3126354
best post in this whole thread

>>3126492
I saw a similar way of painting digitally by another artist (they painted a Goblin, I think), and now I'm wondering if it's the same person. Got any names of the artist?

>>3126629
Good info.

>>3130209
What's the equivalent of hard round brush in CSP?

>>3127823
So ride every fad and trend and i can become successful?

>>3130826
Yes. Have you seen anyone do it and fail?

>>3130828
i don't know artist who fail so I wouldn't know

>>3130832
See? It totally works.

>>3130622
The name is on the picture >>3126353

>>3126488
this one is so lazy, it HAS to be a joke

>common mistakes

>>3126338

>>3126353
This is not for personal work, this is for concept art and it's done this way because the AD will surely ask you to be able to modify the local colors on the fly.

>>3130833
Ignorance is bliss. Have fun with your logical fallacies there buddy

>>3126546
I feel you.

I mean, this monster actually got published.

This is real, btw, I have this book.

>>3133318
And this was his prequel.

does any of u know any tutorial on how to determine the light source in ur drawing?
like how it can set the mood and stuff

>>3133333
>33333
ok

>>3133438
theese can be a starting point

>>3133438
Cool, wheredya find these anon?

>>3133455
>55
how
I dont really remember, but I think I was procrastinating a bit lurking on ic and I found it

Anyone know some simple shading tutorials if you want to color something? I want to enter a drawing competition and I need something to add a little extra depth to my pictures besides just adding flat colors.

>>3133320
That dog should've taken the pencil and hidden it somewhere far, far away

>>3126354
>values 1-3 for shadows
>values 5-10 for lights

what about values that fall on "4"? are you just not supposed to touch those past the initial lay-in phase?

>>3128830
the bottom half of the face has a blue/green undercurrent compared to the rest, especally on males. this has been noticed by many artists

>>3133320
oh shit i had that. memories..

>>3126527
gay

>>3135414
Honestly, this guy's writing style is better than his art lol. I actually enjoyed reading through it, it was surprisingly fun to read

>>3133318
I own this book

>>3135414
This is great for any art style

>>3136027
Isn't it awful?

Well, the stuff Elvin does. Felder's pretty good. Not top tier, but not bad at all.

>>3135410
Maybe true....but it also makes them look like they have a 5 o'clock shadow.

>>3136412
i think it looks fine

>>3133318
>>3133320
As a young lad of 14 I was given a "how to draw manga" book in high school which made me want to take art more seriously and wanted to have my own unique style. 10 years later I found out that although I spent a lot of time learning, I wasn't learning the right things.

So remember kids, learn your fundies first, then stylize.

Does anyone have a head reference chart with planes of the face like this one except for females?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/22/a2/fb/22a2fb74abe688ace900e3606b48117b.jpg

>>3136727
i don't think you need one anon, not every man is going to have exactly the same face shape to that sculpture either

>>3136875
I just know that 99% of my art will be female so although not every face will be the same as the base, I'd like a base that was a bit closer to what I'll be working on.
This chart has honestly already taught me a lot so far.

>>3136727
the Asaro Head is very similar but more feminine -- dont have a pic rn but it'll come up on google

>>3137418

>>3135413
looks like shit tho

>>3137557
it looks fine when i do it

>>3137419
Why are there two mouths?

>>3126353
pure sex

>>3137617

Why do /beg/ think they have any business teaching painting? Fucking kek

kys

>>3130622

>>3126338

Anyone have that drawing boobs tutorial? I just kind of want to draw porn exclusively.

>>3137750
I think I know which one you're talking about, but I don't have that one saved. However, here's one I do have.

>>3137750
is this what you're looking for?

>>3126353
Is atmospheric perspective really necessary on a figure?
I mean, it's great when you're drawing landscapes but it seems a bit excessive on a single figure drawing.

>>3128830

>>3138708
It's not necessary but it can make it stand out better by emphasizing the forms with light.

>>3138714
Is 1 really the same as 2? That's pretty insane if so.

>>3138715
ngmi

>Hoping to increase the amount of THICC clowndowner1967 compiles an autistic amount of information into a tutorial

>>3139040

>trying to reduce thicc aesthetics to numbers.

No one besides this dude really believes this right?

>>3139040
>Hoping to increase the amount of THICC clowndowner1967 compiles an autistic amount of information into a tutorial
I must be a monkey because I barely comprehend what you just said, and I don't understand a damn thing this guy is talking about and it's pissing me off.

>>3139533

It's nonsense

>>3138714
#1's light source is directly to the side of the head while #2's is in the front but also off to the side a bit. Which is why more of the planes are lit up.

>>3126830
>those prices

>>3126830
>those prices
lmao fuck that
thank god I fell for the STEM meme

>>3138710
Nobody has a yellow-red-blue face and nobody has morbid blue face like Krenz paints, except for dead bodies. I know about that theory and I know there are slight undertone differences in face areas, especially when there's an actual 5 o'clock shadow on males, but that's it, SLIGHT. These people are taking that to ridiculous extremes.

>>3140650
Maybe this is just exaggerated for demonstrative purposes. I dont think people would even dray a literal rainbow on a face like that

>>3140635
>>3140642
What did they mean by this? Are they hobbyists?

>>3140661
>implying there's something wrong with being a hobbyist and having a well paying, rewarding job, instead of struggling in an extremely competitive field for mediocre pay, while still being fiscally responsible enough to know that paying $1200 for a poorly optimized software is ridiculous

>>3140668
>Projecting this hard.

>>3126353
I remember when I tried his approach. I have drawn the most lifeless, most cringy looking and most stiff figure ever. I amost feel like im steping back by doing this.

>>3133320
This is the book that got me into drawing at 10 years old
I didn't learn anything but 10 years later at least I still draw

>>3139040
i feel like the detective in a thriller reading the erratic serial killer's notes

>>3137742
post a better one then.

>>3140642
me too. Good luck getting anyone to pay you those ridiculous rates.

>>3126353
el calabozo mas negron

Does anyone know where to get those sheets that have a column of lines or curves rotated at various angles on the left hand side, and space to copy them on the right?

Anyone got any good lineart/inking tutorials for this upcoming memetober?

>>3137667
great now I can't unsee it

>>3137667
it's an improvement on the original design, normally we eat breath and talk all through the same hole, this design allows you tell people when you are choking on something.

>>3141473
Autistically do line drills using exercises made by Peter Han or MoatDD (Mark Chong) using only your shoulder, no elbow or wrist allowed. Then you will become a good draftsman

>>3141473
Make clean sketches so you can effectively ink. If you make messy sketches, you're probably going to ink the wrong line instead of the best line.

>>3138985
???????

>>3142246
Ngmi stand for Not Gonna Make It.

>>3142246
Did the bird ded?

Does anyone have a tutorial for constructing eyeballs?

>>3144357
do you mean eyes or...literal eyeballs

>>3145902
Eyes.

>>3140668
dude 20$ on deviantart lmao

>>3144357
k

>>3144357
this too
>>3126347
>>3126348

>>3146309
Fug, >>3146307 is much more difficult to understand than Doxy's.

>>3135370
4 would just be the base value that isn't light or shadow.

>>3135370
4 is pronounced like "death" in Japanese, so most people don't use it.

>>3149045
This is very true, especially for animation.

>>3126338
just saw this. blows my minddd
>Layer clipping
>alt+left click the line dividing two layers in the Layers panel.

>>3148381
mullins isn't japanese tho.

>>3149674
...this changes everything.

>>3149674
Holy FUCK

>>3150036
Where'd you get pic related, anon? That's some god tier paintover.

>>3149674
>>3150036
>>3150041
seriously? that's photoshop 101

>>3149674
That completely changed the way I painted when I discovered it. Kinda like when I found out that ctrl click on the layer makes a selection of every opaque pixel in that layer.

>>3150062
WAT

Does anyone have video guides for photoshop (v2b, etc.)?

>>3126356
what do the light blue arrows in the middle pic signify?

>>3150265
The light blue arrows show how ambient light bounces off the sphere to illuminate the sahdow

>>3150266
aha, thanks. i guess it's a very subtle effect. i can't distinguish between the ambient light and the bounce light in the shadow .

>>3149674
that doesn't work in CSP, right?

are there even any tutorials for it?

>>3150289
It does. Create a new layer > right click > clip at layer below

99.9% of the features in PS are also in CSP

>>3149674
This is a a shocking thing? I've been using clipping layers in Sai for years.

>>3126356

This is fascinating. I've always shaded spheres as like a linear gradient from the light source. But this looks way better. Any good sources explaining this whole terminator etc shit?

>>3147866
looks like nosebro
>>3150485
Scott Robertson's how to render book i think

>>3150412
This. DESU I didn't know PS had it too but yeah.

Does anyone have any quality tutorials on putting wrinkles in clothes in a natural way? Outside of just copying directly from references I feel like I draw wrinkles unnaturally and I'm not really sure how to go about that.

>>3128830
What tends to happen is the "red" areas have more flesh and have more blood to diffuse the light. Bluer areas are more fatty or connective tissues, which combined with the usually lower lighting seen in these areas, such as the chin or around the nose, creates the bluer/green shading that you're describing.

I think it can go overboard but to say there's no merit in the idea itself is ignoring some pretty basic coloring ideas

>>3127823
The most accurate thing he's said is that if people want or """need""" your work, they'll up the cash to get it. So if you've found yourself to be popular, cash in by raising prices and know that you've cultivated a following that might be willing to pay for the better quality work.

>>3151005
Read Dynamic Wrinkles and Drapery by Burne Hogarth.

>>3150036
Hey mang.
Could I pay you to do all my fixes?

If so, how much? (paypal?)

Second. Where can I contact you?

>>3126354
does this apply to colors as well? im guessing no since there is so much variance in value between hues, right?

>>3151233
shit book fucking hell hogarth is such a terrible fucking artist
>>3151005
villpu has some videos that are good to watch to help aid in visualizing folds, but you better be able to draw nudes competently first

>>3149045
this helped me so much.

>>3126353
>sketch is better than final art

>>3126353
At that point, you could just make a 3d model and get the same result. The first sketch and local colors are cool in their own right.

>>3138714
Sweet jesus this is great.. Are there more of a single statue shot with different lightings?

>>3138715
Yeah, it's a pretty popular illusion. You can open it on ps or even paint, and pick the colors. You'll see they are the same.

>>3149045
This is pretty helpful, never even thought of that

Does anyone have a tutorial for clothing folds? I saw one that was good, but I can't find it anymore.

>>3126338
Does somebody have basic tutorials on hands and feet? Those are hardest to draw decently.

Anyone have some easy to follow tutorials on how to draw the anatomy and how muscles work? I'm interestedi n doing some super hero kind of drawings but anatomy and muscles are really hard for me. So I want something to use alongside studying from life.

>>3156128

I've got no idea about easy to follow or quick to learn or anything. But right now I'm trying to learn Anatomy by following Michael Hampton's Design and Invention book and it seems pretty good.

Anyone got something on mouths?

>>3155774

>>3155774
Look at your own hands
Draw them 100 times every day
Simple

>>3156284
Thanks!

>>3156893
True, but tutorials make it easier.

Anything for drawing animu heads?

>>3157496

>>3157498

>>3157499

>>3157500
What book is this?

>>3157496
Surprisingly helpful. Thank you.

>>3157530
https://livre.fnac.com/a10627025/Michel-Lauricella-Morpho

i wonder if anon has a full scan

Can someone post stuff to simplify the shape of hands and feet from weird angles and positions? I know the anatomy but holy fuck sketching them in dynamic ways it's really hard. And most tutorials are usually just explaining how to do it with simple poses facing forward like >>3156284

>>3157557
Use your head to break down the hands in weird perspectives by simplifying them into shapes that you can translate from 3D. Avoid drawing flat. Nothing is ever flat.

>>3157602
Yes, that is exactly what I'm asking for.

>>3155168
for ants?

>>3157614
Why don't you just try figure it out on your own with really simple shapes instead of looking for somebody to spoonfeed you their technique? Look at some references, break them down, and redline with really simple 3D shapes you can move into every kind of view. You don't need a tutorial for it, plus you've got a couple hands right in front of you that you could stare at.
Most people have issues with drawing hands because they don't bother constructing them like they're real things, so they just draw the outline and struggle. Just picture everything you see as built up of simple shapes, then you could draw anything.

>>3156284
Lol Proko's videos are way better for hands

>>3151324
that's not mine i'm afraid, i just found it a while back. here's another one

>>3158097

>>3158097
lmao thats my paintover from like 2015, holy shit i was so bad

>>3158118
you should do a paintover of it.

>>3158388
>Dunning Kruger
>copyright, plz don't steal
every time

>>3157739
>why do you come to the tutorial thread asking for tutorials
You are retarded, hands are complex shapes that can look wrong really easily, simplifying it to make it easier is obvious, but knowing how to do it it's the hard part and what I want to know. You are being useless.

>>3126353
Is it wrong I like the sketch and local colors more then the final product?

Any Watts Atelier courses floating around out there?

Are there any guides for drawing horns? I’ve only seen references but no tutorials. Ram horns really screw with me the most.

Any tutorials for guns ?

>>3133318
>>3133320
Why would anyone take advice from the person drawing that cover art?

>>3161067
Because fundamentals are the same regardless of how someone decides to use them.

Anyone have anything on good and/or fast lineart? It's the bane of my existence and I despise doing it in sai

>>3140650
They're called color zones bud. Look into it.

Does anyone have one of those "how hair grow" (like from where to which direction by area of the head etc) tutorial? Seen one, lost it, can't find any right now.

>>3162151
???? Anon not saying it doesn't exist, just that most people take it to the extreme.


I agree, krenz and etc. makes most of them look like cadaver or too lacking in saturation. I did like one of Ruan jia's portrait though. Would like to see artists using that principle except not too... Cold coloured.

>>3158402
most of these tutorials have names on em anon. like >>3149045

Anyone got some pic or vid tuts on inking comics/manga? I usually like my rough, but when I try to ink it looks awfully empty.

>>3158404
Seriously, most folks who have been drawing a while can tell you hands are hard to draw due to their complexity. Who the fuck actually thinks it's that simple when dealing with perspective and angles?

Does anyone have a female version of this?

>>3126527
Can you explain why they're bad?

>>3126527
>its shit
>no counter argument or real criticism
thanks crab

kek

>>3167205
seconding this

>>3169797
>kek
>ngmi detected
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74HR59yFZ7Y
Its a very sound piece of advice and helps identify a gesture much quicker.

>>3170125
>foot facing the same way as the distal face of the hip
no knee behaves like this

>>3170173
>post is not about anatomy
>LOL DA KNEEZ DUDE
surely you jest?

>>3170191
the drawing is still a fucking joke what are you on about fagtron did you make this pic or what
fucking look at it
it's not even about drawing
this is plain wrong look at it ffs

>>3170196
Its just explaining how to find a gesture AND THATS IT!
I can agree the picture looks retarded but its still a good piece of information.

>>3170205
Point 10: You cannot teach others before you've taught yourself

>>3170460
voting this as the worst tutorial in this thread so far

>>3170460
pornographers are mentally ill

>>3170525
>>3170527
>hur dur contrarian opinions
post ur werk

Anyone have the pic with multiples of Wolverine where each one has different shading or coloring styles on him?

>>3168468
9 heads for men only unless you're a manlet beta male

>>3170440
The girl in the open mind slide looks like she's playing persona 5

bump

>>3171516

owo

I found a cute skin colouring tutorial
https://youtu.be/vmb4t8bsliA
I find it so much easier to learn from videos than those wierd step by step pictures... Does anyone have a good inking or line art tutorial in a video?

Anyone got something that explains the difference beetween different boob sizes/cup?

Does anyone have that one jap tutorial on frills and frilly skirts or something. I know I've seen it before.

>>3137419
>>3137667
aw fuck it's like an optical illusion now

>>3156893
>Hands are chubby and not like the "standard" hands used as examples at all
Fuck

Any good stuff on drawing on model/more accurately?

>>3130622
You talking about this guy
Saultoons
https://youtu.be/kxqnXn1NGYI

>>3158109
haha this brings me back. It's the first time someone post a red line i did.

>>3182189
Does that help?

>>3140650

>>3149045
Fucking retard wrote the name of the webpage in illegible scribbles.

>>3173753
Is this actually any good? As a /beg/inner one of my main problems is a lack of direction, so this'd be very helpful assuming it's not just garbage.

>>3184999
It only looks useful to a beginner, it's actually just listing basic stuff that the sticky already does.

>>3185009
Is this new? Haven't seen this one from them. Really good.

>>3126546
A tutorial is reliable if you like the final picture it shows you, or, secondarily, if other people like the final picture. It's fucking art, it's not like it's a computer programming tutorial where it might show you broken code or something. At worst, you just learn a less efficient method of drawing something.

>>3185020
>>3185021
>>3185022
>>3185023
are their sketchbooks to be found anywhere?

Where are the dick tutorials?

>>3186227

>>3186251

>>3186253

Tutorials for blending and blend modes? I really need help understanding those.

>>3126661
>use burn/dodge to define the forms

Huh, never thought of this. Will try it next time.

Anyone got some tutorials on anime shading, ideally on skin and/or clothes? I'm looking for something like pic related

>>3156893
I have Marfan hands and I did this, and now every time I try to draw hands they're Marfan.

>>3186628
just say it's your style

>>3180952
>Tiny fat hands and short crooked fingers

I have great hands if I was trying to draw a child's hand, or a fat arthritic one, but a regular adult's? Nope.

I feel your pain.

Anyone have anything good on drawing heads from below and above?
Fuck basic construction, I want to know how to tack those features on and not have them look like flat ass

>>3186913

Go on sketchfab and look at the different 3dheads in your browsers. A lot of them are scans.

https://sketchfab.com/models/35ad93f8b397415f85ac6804de35b3f2

>>3126353

2 comments

1. final result isnt that good
2. just learn 3d lmao

>>3150036
The paintover is good but it doesnt explain anything. Like, WHY did he make those decisions?

Its like michealangelo drawing a figure in response to your stick figure. then he just leaves.

>>3186923

*just learn to paint

>>3186920
thank you

>>3185012
>>3185010
>>3185009

I tried visiting their website but the layout is all fucked up. Is it just me or is the website dead?

also am I stupid? Because I can't for the love of me reproduce this "blocking out colours" step to the same fidelity

>>3186628
I'm sorry but this is hilarious.

>>3150052
I work with photoshop for muh job, and only a few months ago did I find out you can fucking rotate the canvas

just..JUST

>>3186929
the value changes of the major shapes are made more extreme, the value changes of the smaller shapes are made more subtle, he has put the values into a proper hierarchy and made the greatest contrast in values a the focal point of the painting

>>3149674
dude you're 10 years late to the party

>>3183002
Late ass reply, but I was thinking stuff like fictional characters accurately

>>3126353
>>3186923
>>3186940
You must do this sort of shit if you are working in the industry unless you want to repaint and do crude value/color changes midway.
Your painting being a modular piece is one of the greatest assets that photoshop presents to promo and concept artists in the industry.

>>3172809
This uses photobashing, right?

>>3189489
I can definitely see some, look at the gun

Anybody have anything on legs? Can't seem to get them proportionate to bodies I draw.

https://youtu.be/zjxcAaOQvjY :

anything more about painting would be appreciated

>>3177280
the meaning of tit sizes varies between countries

Anyone have any tuts on braids?

Thanks

>>3126353
How is it possible to take so many steps and have it still look like shit at the end

>>3192235
overrendering

>>3189969
These are just jap cup sizes right?

>>3170525
It's a great tutorial if you pump out a lot of porn commissions. Saves time.

>>3155183
holy fucking shit i've been looking for this my whole life thank you anon

>>3133318
I own this book...I didn't buy it, it was a gift from a friend...

Is that one shadow tutorial that shows shadows don’t overlap posted yet?

>>3195474
But shadows do overlap if you have multiple light sources.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/qype14gc7p1d35h/Guides_and_etc.rar
heres my badly organized collection, dunno how useful itll be for most people but at the least maybe a beginner can make use of it, i dont feel like posting one at a time and potentially duping.

/r/-ing more of doxy's stuff

>>3195573
thanks a bunch anon

>>3195740
https://e-hentai.org/g/1034585/c585c9964b/

>>3196279
e-hentai doesn't work for me for some reason

>>3197690
>e-hentai doesn't work for me for some reason
It's a test that differentiates from the newfags from the oldfags

>>3197714
I've been to e-hentai and exhentai plenty of times before, it just doesn't work now.

>>3197690
>>3197729
holy shit lmao

>>3197731
this explains a lot about /ic/

>>3197731
>it just doesn't work now.
>now
I had the same problem as him for a while despite being able to use it before, I think it just fixed itself on it's own at some point
That was only on sadpanda though. e-h should be accessible without doing anything

>>3197743
I've tried to go on e-h on different devices and even on different browsers, but all I get is a white screen.

>>3197755
Fuck, nevermind. It works on Puffin but not on Firefox.

>>3197757
There is a reason but I am not going to tell you why.

>>3139040
This has to be a shitpost

>>3197801
no way dude
dont you see how the anime eye is in a square? shit's legit