/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Look at who's number 1 in the rankings and think about your chances.

>Kishi as head judge
Guy has no taste so why bother doing anything worth a damn?

>>3152413
Naf already entered, what's the point?

>>3152531
who is Naf? google dont tell me

>>3152413
holy crap life and death has a lot of votes

last time I checked it was around nafs vote count
>>3152531
naffy boy doesn't have a chance

>>3152535
>life and death
Link? Can't seem to find it...

>>3152537
life of death nvm I might be retarded and my memory faded

>>3152541
Just saw it. Holy shit it has 41k votes. Not to say that it's bad but how is there such a huge disparity between that one and the others? Also why are there 2 other comics that are ranked higher but have less votes.

>>3152541
>>3152544
I don't see it, can somebody link it here?

semi-related, is there any website that collects all kind of contests?

>>3152555
+1 to this question

>>3152413
>those subumissions
My god. Not one of them knows how to draw what the fuck

>>3152558
Yeah, I would've expected the submissions to be way better. Life of Death in the English section and Artificial in the Spanish section are some of the only ones I've seen with nice art so far.

>>3152555
>>3152557
https://medibang.com/book/0d1602041328117860000450428

>>3152568
Notbleach/10
>backgrounds

>>3152533
Just some dude from /las/ thread.

>>3152579
https://medibang.com/book/u21709150918138460003253766/view/
I found it, he's really good /ourparticipant/

Medibang really wants to be the next JUMP, huh...

>>3152568
>>3152535
I wondered this too when I first looked at the submissions. The answer is that he submits that comic to every single fucking contest and "Team PIZA" has alot of fans from non medibang sites afaik.

I see a lot of anons shit talking the art of the submissions so far. And I do think it's bad too, but have you guys seem Attack On Titan manga art? Or one punch man art before it was popular? Art isn't that important in comics/mangas.

And even saying this, I have my own standards because I want to make vagabond-level manga so maybe I'll join next time.

>>3152535
>>life and death

That shit was so bad lol. This is why we should judge art separately from comics, (see Shingekishit and OPM shit for future reference). Sad that people mostly judge mangoes on art quality and not on pacing, panelling, and storytelling. Replace all the well drawn ikemen and you'll get a polished turd for a scenario.

The humour sense is just a bad attempt at slapstick using shock values. There is barely any coherence between transitions. The characters are shallow, undeveloped piece of shits. I want my fucking braincells back.

>>3152876
for one attack on titan is 10x better than most of the submissions and about opm well thats exactly it isnt it? it became so popular after it got the good art

>>3152876
Wtf I just made my post about OPM and shingeki just before seeing yours. Talk about coincidences, great minds think alike.

>>3152415
is that a good or a bad thing?

>>3152593
I don't know about this nat boi. I feel enraged by my loss of braincells earlier. I fear that my critique rampages will not be toned down.

The good:
Very good and dynamic action scenes, some of the pages flow especially well. Could use a bit more pages for a more tense action sequence, varying different camera angles... but for an amateur submission I'll be more lax:4/5
Anatomy: very good, he's doing his foundies well and the inking is very pretty:5/5.
More relatable characters than life and death, they give off an interesting vibe but the story lacks direction.

The bad:
The pacing of delivery of the jokes felt way too fast. It's like he's trying to cram more than what he could. Because of that, the mood transition between serious and comedy felt awkward at times. He's probably going for the deadpan/slapstick route but it doesn't come off naturally.

I never once thought that the protag became a girl, don't make the setting too ambiguous as it'll leave your readers with a sense of confusion.

Conclusion: Better than that life and death. But again that isn't saying much. Get better at storytelling, you're very very good at drawing already, but for stories think of HOOKING YOUR READERS IN. For that I would suggest either study from already existing writing prompts at reddit, they got some good shit there. Doesn't mean that you're going for comedy that there'd be no need to study.

If that isn't doable find a writer with whom you can team up with, there's loads of great ideas I've read but no one to illustrate them. Comic is a communicating medium, just as writing is. Storytelling is the core, and not the art! Don't let the art do all the carrying!

Sorry for the unsolicited advice, just wanted to rant a bit. Ah I feel better.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAa

ohh ... oh god.... holy shit these submissions

ppfffffHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHFUCKHAHAHAa

JESUS CHRIST THIS BOARD IS CANCER HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA YOU ARE ALL WEEABOO TRASH FAGGOTS KYS PLEASE

>>3152413
good luck keeping up with month submissions.

>>3152907
The whole point of this contest is a sham to recruit new potential "slave" mangaka while banking on it. Jump is getting so desperate for new blood lol.

1. Win. 2. Take the price. 3. Leave.

>>3152413
Dracula's Return is pretty good

Dracula's return & Shadow Cat are pretty good.

The rest looks like the art you'd expect from "teenage weeaboos who'd love to live in Japan because it must be exactly like their favourite manga XD"...

>>3153161
Heck, even the japanese entries aren't that good!

If I didn't have all these stuff to study, I'd try something too...

I just realized kishimoto is the judge. I'd like to get cummed on him even though I'd do a shit job.

>>3152413
Might as well take advantage or this thread.

Crit on this page?

>>3152879
Read the previous winners. They do judge story and panneling over art, but there's also a minimum standard to art.

>>3153180

You cannot draw the underside of the jaw to save your life. But that's what makes me easily detect your style.

>>3153186
but other than that it's good

>>3153180
why bother getting critiques from beginners?

>>3153190

You don't need to draw to detect what's off. The people voting aren't all artists.

>>3153186
Noted. Something to work on. Got any good tuts?

>>3153190
Even beginners read manga, and if something like the panelling or page layout is off, they can tell.

>>3153180
This page alone is leagues above the competition anon. Gj.

>>3153197
It's more of a proportion issue when looking up than anything else, so look into stuff like this.

Hello, my third critique in this thread if you wouldn't mind. Mrawwwwrr, kinda sleepy so I'm probably going to be less brash.

Generally, a curvilinear perspective would be nice for a spread page; it will help demonstrate the "grandeur" of the arena while fitting the audience and the MC in the same panel instead of making them disparaging.
The far right girls and middle left girl looked like they got copypasted there and not part of the show. Also some extreme views from the top will be nice, go for some 3 point perspective for the girls.


You should also play more with values, such as highlighting the MC and make everything else darker/fade.

Main point: your page lacks an overall focus. Art wise you are not as willing in experimenting crazy angles. Study and research from mangoes with "tournament arcs" with clear view of the coliseum. Ones that I have in my head right now that were quite memorable are Kengan Asura, HxH... There's also this thing called Battlesexer (no it's not porn); it's one fucking weird shit but the coliseum and the crowd cheering left a mark in my head.

How to detect when something is good: when it's long lasting, giving a deep impression, yadayada. Keep the work in mind so you can use it as future research.

The best panel is the DJ/radio broadcaster. How his hands go out of the panel makes it real dynamic. Although in doing that you're putting less emphasis on the MC. You always want more focus from your reader. Having two focal points might distract them. One single focal point gives more of an "epicness" impression. For one page (even spread double pages), limit the focus to one thing. Either the MC takes the spotlight or the DJ, not both. Your pick.

>>3153180
The central character works in the image, but if you consider this as a printed page spread, you're gonna lose him completely in the spine.

>>3153190
Editors: the job.

>>3153242
>implying Kishimoto-sensei will be pleased with that

Holy christ, that level of competition. Almost makes me think I should make an entry.

>>3153337
Considering it's better than his own art, I'd say he better be.

>>3153346
Don't be completely fooled. You should know the real heavy hitters are going to start submitting at the very end to maximise their time. By December-January the real competition should have crawled outta the woodwork.

>>3152555
This might be a question we have for Team PIZA... (Seriously...)

Maybe use a RSS feed from Google search? Their algorithm is not that bad.

>>3153180
Didn't this one page take you like a week? How are you going to make it with that kind of speed, anon?

>>3152413
What is the minimal number of pages, "no longer than 55 pages", but certainly there must be a minimum, or everything goes?

>>3153704
it´s a one shot... ¿min 27 - 30?

>>3152413
i'm very interesting in this but i'm quite busy right now so i probably will not make it in deadline. will they make a contest next year too?

>>3153745
This is the 50 anniversary "universal"
and they have the "World manga contest" every year

see:
https://medibang.com/contests/openList

>>3153806
Great! i'm in next year for sure, thanks.

>>3152413
I just want to know if that jump drawing app is any good