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Is there any alternative to conventional figure drawing techniques?

No, this is not a troll post. I'd been legitimately trying to apply Vilppu's figure drawing techniques and they just... never felt right. Something about using geometric/defined shapes feels extremely awkward and mechanical. Am I doing something wrong? The end product is fine but the process is just agonizing.

For the record, I've been trying to use Vilppu's methods (as well as others') for years but even to this day they don't sit well with me. To be fair, I don't exactly draw on a day to day basis, but I feel like I should've already used the techniques enough to have them incorporated into my skillset.

>> No.3151363

>>3151362
And to clarify, I do like using some of the techniques, but a lot of it just doesn't feel right. I'm not the most experienced artist which is why I'm worried whether I'm going the right path or not.

>> No.3151372

>>3151363

Which techniques are you confused about? Let me know and I'll clarify it up for you.

>> No.3151410

Don't fall for the memes and just draw however is comfortable.

>> No.3151422

>>3151362
>using geometric/defined shapes feels extremely awkward
I have no clue what you are saying. There is no better way of understand something then simplifying it as such using basic construction methods. This is true for ALL drawing, not just a figure drawing technique.

>> No.3151525

>>3151362
Your proportions seem to be off and the major forms are not tilted right. Your drawings also seem stiff.

Did you practice gestures enough? That's what Vilppu is all about. I'd rather learn the actual construction from Hampton who explains things better. Keep Vilppu in the pocket for the gesture, his flow stands out.

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>>3151525
kek yourself dunning-kun

>> No.3151541

>>3151525

Michael "Steve" hampton draws differently than he does since his book was released in, what, almost 10 years ago? I'd say he's actually better than the old dying fart and will surpass his legacy.

>> No.3151571

>>3151525
You forgot to tell him to read the sticky

>> No.3151775

Cylinders are the most simple, graceful thing in the world compared to the clusterfuck that is human musculature.

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>>3151362
I like the Reilly method but it doesn't replace the need to understand 3d forms.

>> No.3151797

>>3151525
>ic criticizing Vilppu XD

>> No.3151831

>>3151525
>>3151528
I know /ic/ isn't one person but this fucking site just lost the rest of credibility/respect it had with me.

>> No.3151835

>>3151831
>falling for the brutal honesty meme in the first place

>> No.3151839

>>3151831
>>3151831
The funniest part is he then mentions vilppu in his critique. You can always tell the dunning kruegers because they say the same vague fundamental errors as advice.

>> No.3151840

>>3151839
So what would be a more specific critique?

>> No.3151845

>>3151840
Nothing, it looks fine and thats the point. Maybe an actual redline instead of just saying its "stiff", but then it would be even funnier to laugh at.

>> No.3151980

>>3151362
There's literally as many approaches to figure drawing as there are artists.
I found Huston to be equally good but in a different way than Vilppu, so you might wanna check that out.
Also Sinix has a more of the approach that you'd find at artschools - do a lot of life drawing and you'll eventually develop an intuition of how space works, without the use of construction.
It's best, however, to try many approaches and find your own way of doing things.

>> No.3151993

>>3151362
Logic is a formalization of intuition.
A stupid teacher can only train the former, even if in his own work he relies on both. Logical knowledge is easier to transfer after all.

>> No.3152167

>>3151362
From what I gather you want to have a faster construction process and more dynamism.
Working off of that assumption, I would recommend reading 'Force, dynamic life drawing for animators' by Michael D. Mattesi. Use it to study dynamic linework and rhythm, and incorporate that into whatever studies or drawings you do.
Secondly, if you are finding geometric construction of every form of the body to be tedious or slow, practise 'direct drawing'. Focus on imagining the basic shapes of the objects without actually drawing them all out (although you can still make an effort to keep the planes and shapes reasonably visible on the figure).
Lastly, drawing your characters with more pronounced perspective and tighter vanishing points can help with making your studies have more visual punch.

>> No.3152226

>>3151980

Mentioning sinix in the same breath as Vilppu and Huston is pretty laughable. /ic/ shits on better artists than him regularly, what did he do to attain a special protection status? He's barely an ant in company of someone like Huston.