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What sacrifices have you made in order to pursue art / your dream? Let it all out.

>> No.3146313

>>3146310
My art is quite literally the meaning of my life. As such, I've given up everything a normal life would have -- a family of my own, having fun and all that jazz.

>> No.3146314

Being here forever while losing everything else.

>> No.3146324

>>3146313
>>3146314
post your work

>> No.3146332

My social life.

In art school, I had a large, tight friend group and though I focused a lot on my studies, I still had a thriving and healthy social life. Post art school though, I definitely became more of a hermit while I focused heavily on my freelance career. It paid off after ~4 years, as my income is now totally livable (in the US) and solely derived from art related endeavors.

I miss having friends, but I'd say it was worth it - especially now that things are more stable and I'm starting to reconnect with old friends. It helps that I live with my girlfriend who I'm happy to spend all day every day with, otherwise I don't know who I'd talk to on a regular basis.

Also: fitness. Sitting around a desk all day can wreak havoc on your back and joints. If you sit at your desk a lot, buy a nice desk chair - they're totally worth the money. This isn't really a sacrifice though - just straight up neglect.

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>>3146310
nearly flunked outta college cause I couldn't stop drawing or thinking about drawing. I'm trying to reel it back and get back on track but it's difficult.
>tfw can't drop everything, live in a bunker and just draw all day until I make it

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>>3146310
I've made none, which is probably why I'm not making it in any way.

>> No.3146347

Until recently I had been focused on other things in life which made my life a bit more easy and comfortable enough for me to now focus on drawing. Drawing is the thing I want to do more in life and I know it, but now that I actually have the time for it I cannot exactly bring myself to do it.

Reason is I thought I could manage to cram it somewhere during the day but I realized that's not how it works. Whenever I do something like talking to a friend, reading threads on 4chan related to my interest, spending time and effort on my 2nd hobby, procrastinating a bit, etc, all these minor things are eating my discipline and focus away, thus losing time but most especially losing the energy needed to actually draw.
When people would say they "sacrificed almost everything to get where they wanted "I often thought to myself that it was an exaggeration but the more time passes by the more I realize this is probably true. Of course depending on the person the mileage may vary but it still remains true for everyone I think.

"To truly become happy in art I think one has to completely give up their whole self to it" is most likely the best answer to most worries around here I feel.

>> No.3146352

>>3146333
What would be your schedule and plan if you could?

>> No.3146363

I sacrificed everything for it
I am in for life at this, it is the one thing I want to be, I spent so much time and money my social life, my job, my youth. Everything because I chose to! Because I know that if I dont choose what I want to do, someone is going to choose it for me. I want to be in control of who I am and what I do that is why I became an artist in the first place. I know one day and that day is coming near that I will make it as long as I keep working on it and improving my skills everyday. I can see the real improvements when studying and implementing. I am the type of person who says something and do it. I'll do it first and say after. I am willing to dedicate mylife into the art that I neglected some of the things I own. Jesus Art is my life now

>> No.3146364

>>3146363
Someday my dream is to create something art related that can change the world like a propaganda style of art. That is what i want to do because art is about propaganda in the first place, I will do what art is really about!

>> No.3146380

>>3146363
>>3146364
$100.00 says this poster is under 14 years old.

>> No.3146395

Not much really, I've never liked going out much, and this is as simple as just grabbing a pen and just draw, so I can do it for hours.

>> No.3146422

>social avoidance
When I moved from an English/French/Swiss community into a German one, I missed the British element so thoroughly that I never wanted to associate with anyone else again. Art helped with that since I didn't know anyone else who was serious about visual art

>> No.3146426

>>3146310
Video games (never play anymore)
Social life (I only hang out with people like once a month or so)
Halve my regular job schedule work one week off one week so i can grind. so much less money but enough to eat and stuff.
lots of things. but i think its worth it

>> No.3146435

>>3146310
I wish I could say I sacrificed social life/friendships but I'm garbage, I actually enjoy being alone and "friends" end up annoying me so I always cut contact.

The only thing I love but stopped doing is playing video games. I sold my gaming pc and good laptop so I couldn't play anymore. ...Man, I miss playing Skyrim every single day.

>> No.3146449
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Up until now? Pretty much nothing.

I recently went down to part-time work so that I could practice and study more. This will be a loss of about $600 a month-most of which will come directly out of my savings account. The money I'd sacrificed much of my youth spent as a working, loveless hermit to hoard will disappear in too-short a time and the fear I have is that this money will go to waste in the end. That I'll be left without anything to show for it. I've already had every advantage a person could have. What could this be other than a final attempt at deluding myself one last time?

I want to "make it', I need to make it but...I'm afraid.

https://youtu.be/X5hNl61Wk_A

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>> No.3146470

>>3146310
I gave up /ic/

>> No.3146501

>>3146310
interesting question anon
i sacrificed a lot of things like graphic design advertisement/marketing, social life, videogames, even to look fine as a person but still dunno if worth it anyone else feels this? specially because if you make a decent social life you become more hopeful with humanity

>> No.3146564

>>3146332
link to work?

>> No.3146613

>>3146470
This. I only come here to watch the crabs pull each other down.

>> No.3146628

>>3146310
I sacrificed gaming time, not whole of it, but about 9h out of 12h

sacrificed sleep time, about 3h out of 10h

and got a job I hate to afford art gear and stop having excuses like ''I don't hate a tablet'', ''my pc lags in photoshop'', ''wish I could buy a brush pen to try out drawing like kjg''

didn't sacrifice any social life since I didn't have any to start with

>> No.3146631

>>3146628
note: if I would have some irl art friends to draw with I would sacrifice the rest of my gaming time in the blink of an eye to have time and spend it with them

>> No.3146638

>>3146310
Nothing significant so far but it's starting to eat up more and more of my time

>> No.3146660

My social life. I lost my virginity at 26, to my first girlfriend. We broke up half a year later because she couldn't deal with me spending more time on my art than with her.

I've been heavily depressed since then and I'm 80% sure I'm going to quit art. Nothing in life is worth denying love. Especially not this underpaid excuse of a career path.

>> No.3146666

>>3146613
I come back for threads like these to pick up some good feels reading about how shitty /ic/ lives are.

>> No.3146669

>>3146660
>giving up on art for some pussy
guess some ppl weren't serious to start with

>> No.3146676

>>3146310
>implying my life had anything of value to begin with

>> No.3146679

>>3146660
>Nothing in life is worth denying love
That could be used as an argument to break up with a girl to pursue art

>> No.3146693

>>3146669
Pretty much this.
Also if you can pinpoint a cause, it's not depression. You're just feeling bad because your meat hole left you and you're not financially successful, which means you're failing as a social animal. Either fix these problems or fix your own goals/perception of the self.

>> No.3146719

>>3146310
Vidiya/Internet in general, internet I barely use and I unnistalled all vidya of my pc, can't waste my life raging at retards online.

Socially not so much since I am an anti-social cunt, and my only friend died 3 months ago, so I insert myself in art to avoid thinking about it.

I'm still a useless piece of shit and sometimes I just dose off for hours, procrastinating.

>> No.3146729

Any real hope to be a mother.
If I had a kid I would want it to be well enough provided for, but as a late 20s artist I can barely afford to look after myself but will never financially rely on anyone else because I need that FREEDOM and also having a kid would just kill all of my time and leave me with even less time to do art than my normie dayjob does. I was raised by a single mother who gave up her dreams for me and took care of me whilst going to university to earn better so she could provide for me, she did good. I'm such a selfish shit that I would probably abort, it scares me to think about it.

This is why there are so few great women artists.

>> No.3146739

>>3146729
same here, UNLESS, I start getting more money out of my art than my current non-art job and get more free time (because as of now I wouldn't have time to spend with kids or wife and) I would rather stay alone than be a negligent father and husband

family wise I did have both my parents but it was so hard for them to rise me (while they still living with my grandparents and having just one child) that they couldn't even afford to take me to a doctor to fix my broken ring finger on my right hand when I was 3 years old. Right now I am writing with my left, because finally, 20 years later, I could afford the operation on my own just 2 weeks ago and so now my whole arm and forearm are in a splint. (next on the list is fixing my teeth)

that's why I would rather still stay a virgin even if the opportunity show itself, to not risk making a kid. Guess what I am trying to say is that I know what you mean, but be careful, as I heard women start loosing their fertility sooner than men.

>> No.3146794

pursuing a career in IT
normal social life

>> No.3146804

I knew this girl who had some life threatening disease and was bed ridden and spent all her time trying to git gud. Of course she was below absolute trash, just terrible terrible drawings, so fucking bad. Yet she spent all her time in her bed producing this trash, with hopes to git gud. Sounds like a very depressing way to spend your final moments. Of course everyone was concept art was saying how good she was getting, but there was zero improvement. Some of her drawings were literally uninspired scribbles, didn't look like anything at all. Ick.

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>>3146310
i gave up being lazy. i know it sounds trivial, but for the last 7 years i was just existing, not really living at all. i justified my laziness with shitty Nietzsche quotes, not really realizing why he said those things, in order to make myself feel better about not doing anything. eventually i got pretty sick of doing nothing, i always wanted to be good at something, and i didnt want to remain the useless bastard i was. i havent given up as much as others, and i certainly haven been at this for as long as most, but im going to dedicate myself to this or im going to die trying.

>>3146613
i come hear to build resillience to you crabs

>> No.3146838

>>3146676
>of value
We all do the stupidest worthless shits on a daily basis just because they make us feel "content" or "entertain" us (like most video games, or browsing shits like 4chan or Youtube), it's not always about valuable things.

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>>3146814
From the abyss a man can begin to see - if he can survive it and the subsequent burning off of dead wood - infinite possibility.

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>>3146310
Almost Everything.

In my whole 24 years on this earth. I have only ever loved one person. she was the most sweetest adorable person, and on top of all of that this person was a girl. I thought girls were lowly creatures before her.


Under the crushing burden of realising my dreams my relationship fell apart. she is no longer in my life. and I took the blame for allot of it. It's all done with now.

I have strong grip on my goals and artistic pursuits now. and I very happy with how things are panning out. but sometimes I hate this thing. I let her down

and sometimes, looking at the results of my art. I feel so happy that god blessed me with these visions and stories that I want to share with the world so badly too.

I ask god that he give us the strength to fight the hard days to come. and the wisdom to make the right choices from here on.


Godspeed my fellow anons.

>> No.3147008

I gave up playing video games. Now i watch other people play video games on youtube while i draw. Also, when Im at work, i dont work but draw instead. Why is it that youll get paid to sit around and do nothing for eight to twelve hours but creating artwork means you have to starve?

>> No.3147010

>>3146660
you may think so but like is tricky like this my friend.

you dont want to find your self in a position where years down the line you are on the couch with your wife watching hologram tv and resenting her because you gave up your dreams for her.

>> No.3147016

>>3146996
Are you still using that kind of schedule as of today? Been using schedules for 1 year now and have revamped them as I went on. I feel like there is no ultimate schedule though, and altering them as you go prevents you from getting too comfy and complacent with yourself.

Lately I'm using a fixed schedule, which means I absolutely need to do things in a certain order to progress through it, as I feel like giving myself the freedom to choose was the opposite of helpful.

>> No.3147085

>>3146996
if only god blessed everyone

>> No.3147554

>>3146333
>tfw college dropout
>basically just live in a bunker and draw, work less than part time hours, live an ascetic life
its easy to do it even at min wage just lower your level of luxury and decadence

>> No.3147575

>>3146449
No way you could ask for a raise? Even a ten cent one gives you a few extra dollars a month.

>> No.3147579

>>3147554
Are you assuming living with like four other roommates? Because I want to decrease my work week to 15 hours or even less but it seems impossible unless rent is cheaper than I thought in other states.

>> No.3147780

>>3147579
I can't imagine how living with others would be a positive thing to do if you wanted to focus on art though. You'd have to stumble on perfectly quiet and well mannered people for that and chances are you won't.

>> No.3147786

>>3146310
I stopped posting on /ic/.

>> No.3147789

>>3147780
As long as you had your own room it’d probably be okay. The others will need to go to work and/or school so noise and solitude shouldn’t be an issue. If not you can draw outside the house maybe?
I just can’t really see how it’s possible on minimum wage without at least one or two roommates to split the rent with. Especially with the implications you’ll have a lot of time draw, which means probably not working more than 25 hours a week. And places with lower rent have lower minimum wage.

>> No.3147841

Relationship is falling apart. Girlfriend should have left me by now, i told her to. She wont. Dont give a fuck either way, im working on my art, i recently picked up guitar again, (drawing will still be my main focus) and no one gets in the way of my endeavors.

>> No.3147900

>>3146310
>What sacrifices have you made
I sacrificed my anal cavity to my idol

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>>3146310
I actually gave up on my dreams

I fill up my notebooks with quick and incomplete sketches just to impress normies, thats enough for me

I dont give a damn about quality or finishing anything anymore or maybe its just pure lazyness

>> No.3147940

>>3147016
Not him, but how do you find the confidence to stick to a certain schedule? I keep jumping around topics because I'm not sure which ones are helping and which are waste of time

>> No.3147942

>>3147789
Maybe in the US. With neetbucks you can live rather easily in a lot of countries, I'd pick that over having to live with roommates, even if that means I couldn't afford myself a lot of pleasures.

>> No.3147949

>>3147940
I said 1 year but only picked up art again recently so I couldn't answer you regarding drawing specifically, but as of now I just picked course / book and do like 3 of them daily for a certain amount of time until I finish them. If they weren't helpful so be it, but at least I do it. Leave your worries aside and just do it, that's the sure way of knowing for yourself and I doubt you could lose anything in the process.

Asking /ic/ about what to do always results in one eloquently written post picking up your attention about X should be done and you'll feel inclined to follow the advice, but then a few days later you'll see another eloquently written post saying the complete opposite and you won't be too sure of what to do. So just make your own path.

t. shitty beginner

>> No.3147957

>>3147841
Same thing happened to me. No qt is worth giving up art.

>> No.3147965

>>3147949
Same anon, started drawing again like 6 weeks ago, now i have 2 fixed topics i study and the rest of the time i just try to make myself to keep drawing for fun w/e it is, just to keep myself going. Just can't shake out of the feeling that I'm wasting time with that

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>>3147575
Yeah that $600 deficit is despite having received a dollar raise actually. I'm going to have to live and eat like a caged animal to not go completely bankrupt real quick, but if I didn't think there was a chance I wouldn't take it. If I zero out my bank account in the two years or so I'd anticipate to, but get to where I want to be artistically in the end, I'll be happy. If I can't? Well that'll be proof enough that maybe this isn't for me, or at least that I shouldn't take it so seriously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_NNKfoBDbg

>> No.3147992

>>3147984
if you want to make money with art, start looking for a job right now, don't wait to get good. you will get good as you work for paycheck, and you will make more as you get better. this is the best advice anyone can give you, but it may also be the hardest thing to do.

>> No.3148019

I'm homeless so I can draw more.

posted from my nintendo 3ds

>> No.3148025
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I stubbornly held onto being an artist for a while but I think its time I gave up.

I didn't even know giving up was an option. So this is pretty huge. I was one of those one track mind people. I probably called you a faggot for complaining on this very board.

Well, I am off to apply myself.

>> No.3148033

>>3148019
How do you even solve the captcha on a 3DS? I browsed 4chan before with my N3DSXL but no way to actually post I think.

>> No.3148095

>>3148025
I'll bet you a thousand dollars that you've spent at least 100X more time shitposting on 4chan (you're posting a /biz/ meme for christ sake) than actually drawing.

>> No.3148112

>>3148095
Logical assumption but Ive spent a shit ton of hours drawing too. Have I ramped up my shitposting as of late? Yes.

>> No.3148115

>>3148112
>Ive spent a shit ton of hours drawing too

So you should be good at drawing by now.

>> No.3148120

>>3148115
Thatd be irrelevant to my original post, no?

Good =/= Enjoyment

Id like to not bring the old cock size obsession into it

>> No.3148574

>>3146310
Damn near everything, though not by choice, and the worst part is I have nothing to show for it yet. I was the top student in my high school, but I couldn't afford to move to a city and go to university, and my parents couldn't help as they had a divorce to get through. I knew that what I wanted was to pursue my creative dreams. But survival comes first, I was stuck in that shithole town for three years, mostly working in a warehouse, at night had no more energy than to write down my ideas. I also had nobody in my life, and my family abandoned me too.

I had depression. It disables you. I was unemployed for almost a year, I had all the time I could want, but I couldn't do a thing. I found out that I can't live just for myself, just by myself. I moved to the city, it was even worse at first. But found work again, not full-time so I still had time and energy for a life, I met my husband, married over a year now. I've focused way too much on him in that time, honeymoon period of the relationship and all, it's time to settle into a more productive balance. I need full-time work again now, always been struggling financially, I need to save for our plan when he graduates in 4 years. I'm worried about that, I remember what it was like last time with the warehouse, it drained my soul. After those four years I'm retiring and living off savings/rental income, I'll have the time, I'll have the love of my life and support, I won't be depressed. That's all great, but I can't waste these next years either, and outside of work is so little time, my husband needs my time too very much as I need his.

Anyway I'm 24, and very worried about what I can achieve when only truly putting everything into it at 28, I'll have roughly 7 years to do what I want (kids at 35) which isn't just digital painting, also music, writing, design and woodworking. And life too. I have to, always those ideas, sights, sounds, things, feelings, have needed to come out. Can't die in regret.

>> No.3148701

>>3148574
I recognize you you've voiced these concerns before. Kids are a lot of work but they're not necessarily the end of the road, either. Unlike cats or dogs eventually kids become fairly autonomous-but it does take a while. However the older you have them the more likely they are to have autism and possibly never be self reliant-I don't think they can always catch it in the womb either but idk. 35 is probably okay but if you have kids now they'll be able to take care of themselves for the most part by the time you're 35. Tough choice mama!

>> No.3148782

>>3148574
I dont know you and I dont mean to romanticise you so naively but where the hell are girl like you!!!

everywhere i find thots are only worthy of pumping and dumping and not anywhere near the type that i would wine and dine with.


anyways regarding
>digital painting, also music, writing, design and woodworking

focus your efforts. it is essential. dont try to do everything at once. ask yourself the thing you want to do the most out of all of them.

it just doesn't do justice to all your passions to try and do them all in some of handed way because of your shortage of time.

you can always save some for later. thats the best thing I learnt.

>> No.3148797

>>3148574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZLzI0CwhkA

>> No.3148804

Thousands of dollars in student loans for an art degree. And the very small social life I had in high school so I could focus on studying. Got a crappy retail job to help pay for college stuff so I can keep going to school as financial aid doesn't cover it (being out of state and all rip).
probably will get worse as I continue really.

>> No.3148817

>>3148574
Agreed with >>3148782 - you need to narrow down your interests first. You need to become really good at one thing to the point you can support yourself with it, and THEN consider branching out. Do not try to be a jack-of-all-trades. Specialize as soon as you can.

It sounds like you don't have specific goals. You have goals - sure - but they're very vague. In fact, I can't really tell what your goals are besides just wanting to do creative stuff, regardless of what it is. It sounds like you're just aimlessly moving forward with no plan, which will get you no where.

It sounds like you've had a tough time recently, but you're not going to make progress until you make realistic, organized and achievable goals.

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My sanity.

Being an artist is awful. When you start out and you're bad, you hate your fucking life. The anxiety of "what if I don't make it" is one of the most soul-crushing experiences anyone can ever feel. The utter fear of what the future may bring if you follow this path is, alone, enough to make anyone quit. Keep in mind that this is with me coming from a fairly high-middle class family that can afford to sustain me for a fairly long period of time and allow me to try out different paths in life.

I don't sleep well anymore. I'm constantly haunted by the idea of "what if I don't make it?" and "I'm wasting my time, I should've gone to engineering or something that is respectable and makes money instead." That last one in particular is even harsher if you don't have a social life and want to substitute your lack of one with a path that is culturally and socially acceptable, since you HAVE to fit in, and you hate most of the neckbearded nerd-imbeciles or hipster canvas shit-splatterers that infest your hobby, so you HAVE to look outside this group.

It's gotten to the point where I have actively thrown years of my life away because I am too lazy/depressed/disheartened/disappointed to get into a routine that would improve. In fact, my biggest fear is that I start to improve and realise that I hate art in the first place. Yet at the same time I have to justify all the time I have wasted, so I try to aim for greater and greater ambitions in order to "redeem" my past failures (I will be a great artist/I'm going to have a huge following/I'm going to become famous/etc).

Just put me out of my misery.

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>>3148574
>where the hell are girl like you!!!

This, I thought that the first time she made a recognizable post: "What a lucky guy; I wonder if she has a sister?" haha

>>3147992
You're probably right. I go to an atelier from time to time and from what I picked up I could probably teach the sight-size method to kids or something-I need to make a portfolio so parents know I'm not some shyster though. Honestly I think teaching kids is what I'd want more than anything, but I still have to get better, myself. I also have a couple other ideas on how to possibly make money locally making art I could try.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE2D3LWADFg

>> No.3149326

>>3148817
I understand needing to focus on one at a time, it's certainly something I'll be keeping in mind. A jack of all trades is a master of none and all that, I know the order of their importance to me and figure I'll work top down. I do have very specific goals, I know exactly what I'll be doing in regard to every category, and I have all the ideas I could need written down I just don't have the ability to bring them into reality yet.

That's what I can't stand, what has taken me onto this path in the first place, all these things in my head that need to come out into reality but I'm unable to do it. I can't be fulfilled until I do. Due to various things, it feels like I've spent roughly 6 years preparing to start instead of actually starting. My husband understands how important it is, which is why we have our plan, which we're fortunate is possible despite being perpetually broke right now struggling to rent a room in a share house. Life seems so short lol.

>> No.3149345

>>3148865
I'm the lucky one! We met completely by chance at a zoo while he was on holiday and talked for 10 hours straight, he left me with a single kiss at the airport that night. He moved halfway around the world, dropped out of a prestigious university halfway through his degree, left his family and gave up his privileged life at the time to be poor and happy with me. We've struggled together beautifully, maybe three arguments in over two years, we hug each other tightly every day. It's always hurt me though, that I can't give up as much for him, I don't have anything to give up. I haven't even been able to find work that can help us financially so we're atleast not stressed about rent and food every week. I want more for us, I want to do more, everything I can to support his dreams too.

>> No.3149363

>>3148855
Shut the fuck up you piece of shit. You wasted your parents money and you wasted the valued time other people gave in for you just to go on a self loathing rant on fucking 4 chan you ingrate. Next time keep the depressing bullshit to yourself and be grateful for what you have. Don't complain and waste time here and just draw.

>> No.3149369

>>3148855
This is a thread about the sacrifices you made for art, I don't see any sacrifices in your post, just a teenager rant.

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The pursuit of other dreams.

Also, the norm of money and fitness.

>> No.3149376

>>3146337
What anime is this from?
I need more animu about drawing like Kakukaku Shikajika.

>> No.3149380

>>3149376
>tfw kakukaku shikajika actually managed to influence me on a day to day basis
It kind of felt like having a mentor while reading through it.
>it's hard
>just keep drawing!
>i don't want to!
>keep drawing anyways!
It just works. I especially liked the parts where she does casts drawing and is like
>why do I have to do them again? I've already drawn it before.
Really gets me when I redraw things to refine my mistakes and actually improve in speed because I've done it once before. Usually I just drew things once and moved on to drawing something else.

>> No.3149382

>>3149373
You don't need money to be averagely fit dude, and you barely, BARELY need time either. Who do you think you're kidding, man? Yourself?

>> No.3149391

>>3149373
>eat wholesome normie food every day
>do like a minute of push ups
>do a minute of sit ups
>use the stairs, walk around

It's not that hard.

>> No.3149394

>>3149382
I meant I gave up money for drawing. I'm not trying to buy a hot body.
>>3149391

Bitches I ain't that fat, I just don't have a hot body like I want.
I go for a hike like 1-2 hours a week, dance and walk a decent amount.

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What are you truly sacrificing if art is important to you? You faggots talk like this shit is costing you limbs.

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I've been at a crossroads lately. Drawing makes me the happiest, second is my relationship and third is my family. My job makes me miserable, and school is an obligation. I lose tons of drawing time, largely because when I do get some time off, I just want to sleep. I've sacrificed drawing to do functional things and it doesn't make me happy.

>> No.3149465

>>3148025
This guy here again. Took a full day of break. Didnt even allow myself to think of drawing, and beyond that I didnt even let myself even feel compelled "to do something," as I am so often.

Honestly its like a whole different way of living. And this is just day one. My left eye feels very bendy. Its used to drifting off.

>> No.3149480

>>3149397
No, 'we're talking like' art costs us a hell of a lot of time and money-not only have some of us gone to expensive schools but this also includes the opportunity costs associated with being interested in a subject that is well known for being anything other than lucrative in an overcrowded world where your value as a person is (often rightly) associated with the prestige of your title and the amount of money you make.

>> No.3149546

>>3149363

>le be grateful meme xDD

Fuck off.

>>3149369

I left two universities, does that count?

>> No.3149550

>>3149546
Yep, being grateful for what others gave in is such a sin. Keep crying and being depressed faggot.

>> No.3149556

>>3149550

I'm well aware that others gave in time and money to help me. The point is that it doesn't help. You want me to feel bad about that, too? Because that's not going to change my attitude towards art any further.

Just cause you come from a well-off family doesn't mean you're instantly happy, faggot.

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>>3146729
ayy bby if u want a kid u can just messeg me x

>> No.3149779

>>3149556
It doesn't help? What doesn't help? People have gone through you shit end of the world and turn great you over dramatic retard. Sure, feel bad about the only people supporting you, I don't give a shit. Do you need to be happy to do art? Why don't you express your gay ass depression and channel it into art? All you do is look at a dead end and cry over it. No motivation, no will to dig your way out. Keep staring at the brick wall. You aren't really trying.

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>>3149779

>thread about letting it all out
>wtf why are u complaining

I'm aware of my own shortcomings well enough, anon. I only shared them because I wanted to get them off my chest like the OP wanted.

>> No.3149792

>>3149787
>It's gotten to the point where I have actively thrown years of my life away because I am too lazy/depressed/disheartened/disappointed to get into a routine that would improve. In fact, my biggest fear is that I start to improve and realise that I hate art in the first place. Yet at the same time I have to justify all the time I have wasted, so I try to aim for greater and greater ambitions in order to "redeem" my past failures (I will be a great artist/I'm going to have a huge following/I'm going to become famous/etc). Just put me out of my misery.

The thread is about sacrifices. These aren't sacrifices, its self piety.

Your Sanity? Give me a break.

You don't have any short comings, your failures are opportunities.

Next time you want to let it all out, put it in drawings degenate.

>> No.3149795

>>3149792

Edgy.

As I said, I left two Universities because I didn't enjoy them and because I wanted to do something that I somewhat enjoyed, which is drawing and art. Is that enough sacrifice for you?

>> No.3149804

>>3149795
No it's not. You dropped out of an institution and wasted money. If you dropped out of two university to pursue your dream, and feel bad about it later on, what were those sacrifices for?

If you threw away your chance for more comfortable life, in pursuit of passion, it's a sacrifice because you've gained something in the end. If you lost the passion that drove you in the first place, then that is a waste.

Did you waste your life? Or was it a sacrifice?

>> No.3149807

>>3149326
So I don't know anything about you or your work, but I've noticed a large majority of /ic/ has this problem so I'm assuming you have it too:

Are you finishing work? Are you competing self-initiated projects?

That's great that you have very specific goals, and I can appreciate your current life situation. If you need to improve as fast as possible in order to meet the specific goals you have in mind, then I want to make sure that you are creating personal work on a regular basis that is the absolute best you can do, and bringing it all the way to completion.

I see too many people here locked up in this never ending cycle of studies and half-finished work. People here rarely bring things to completion, and I think that's a major problem that greatly stunts your progress. Studies should be supplemental to making finished work. You will improve much faster and you'll learn more and more what it means for something to be 'finished' to you (it's different for everybody). Part of that is developing and understanding your own personal style, which is what will set you apart from all other creatives in any field you're getting into.

What are your specific art related goals, if you don't mind sharing? Do you have a link to your work in the social media thread you could point towards? If you're not comfortable with that, I understand - just knowing where you're at currently will also help.

>> No.3149811

>>3149804

>You dropped out of an institution and wasted money.

I don't see it as wasted money, personally.

>Did you waste your life? Or was it a sacrifice?

That's the entire point of my post. I said I struggle to sleep because of my thoughts and my depression, something that I wouldn't struggle with had I chosen a different path.

I'm not looking for pity, I'm just sharing my own thoughts.

>> No.3150156

>>3149546
>>le be grateful meme xDD

Kill yourself. I'd kill to have the opportunities that you have.

>> No.3150169

>>3150156

And I'm sure a starving African would kill to have your own opportunities. See how empty this "be grateful" shit is?

Regardless, I acknowledge that I'm quite privileged that I come from a fairly well-off family, I don't need anons on the internet to tell me that. However, that doesn't mean that you will suddenly start working on improving yourself just because daddy's got cash and you can afford to follow your desire for art. It's like those newfags that think buying an Intuos will make them amazing.

I don't know your economic situation, but I'm assuming most people on /ic/ aren't as well-off as me. I'm sure you worry about all sorts of things like possibly finding a job or money and you think this is all that is impeding you from succeeding.

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>>3146613
don't stay too long unless you want pulled down yourself

>> No.3150694

>>3150169
could have just told them to go back to tumblr and saved yourself some time.