/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

This didn't turn out how I wanted.

>>3139495
The weight of the boobs is really nice.

>>3139502
Thanks but I don't think her body's moving enough to make her tits go crazy like that.

idk what to think of this.

>>3139710
>furry

I think it's cancer, take that shit to /trash/

>>3139730
what if it was a lot better

here I go again

>>3139734
no, why the fuck is furry allowed outside of /b/? This isn't a furry board, take that shit to /trash/ or /b/

>>3139739
You too, it's terrible.

>>3139710
i think if it was cleaned up a little it would be pretty good for what it is.

>>3139739
this one isn't that good though.

>>3139765
It's oversized anal beads being crammed into a female yoshi, what the fuck are you gonna do to clean it up? anatomically it's retarded, stylisticly you've fucked it; the colours and shading are all over the place and the fuck is that expression?!

>>3139710
You want to rework those hands and feet. They don't look good.

>>3139730
>>3139741
I don't think anyone here cares about your personal opinions and beliefs. If you can't rate art without being offended by the subject that is portrayed, then you probably shouldn't post here.
Remember anon, hide, sage and report. No need to comment for no reason.

>>3139710
haha

>>3139832
>being this new

furry is banned outside /b/

This shouldn't be here.

>>3139495
That's dope, but the tits really are moving independently on the force that's pushed from below.
Try animating a flour sack or smth, or even take a real porn gif and observe the wave of energy that's passing through her body - that's what you're trying to capture.

>>3139741
Why you gotta be triggered m8.
All I see is shapes, colors, convex forms, human/animal anatomy. No furry porn.

>>3139861
>being this mad
Holy shit dude it's just pixels, move on

>>3139865
Sorry dude, I've seen much worse than furry; It's the community I can't stand. No group of artists are worse than furries, we have these rules based on furries being drama magnets not their porn being weird/bad.

I hope you understand.

>>3139862
It's pretty much a frame for frame reference of a viper gif at a slightly different angle. I think i just didn't have her pop up high enoug

is it worth it to finish a pokemon GO comic I started back when it was popular? I don't even know if anyone cares anymore.

>>3139986
just do it dude

>>3139861
I know it's banned. Simply don't watch it and move along.
I'm pretty sure you can't critique art. If you were an artist and you could, then you wouldn't be assblasted by such a tame subject matter.

messing around with style and narrative stuff in an attempt at addressing a lack of appeal in my smut. feels like i'm fumbling in the dark when it comes to that stuff.

>>3140050
That's very beautiful, anon. Maybe except for that line in her armpit and boring skintone render.
If you want to make it more fappable, just exaggerate the gesture and expression and you're there.

You got a blog or smth? I'd like to see more.

>>3140050
blog?

>>3139876
just fix the spacing, of the females body, and make the male thrust

>>3140151
Can't thrust all that hard from that position but I might add a frame where she's higher up and one or two where he shifts his pelvis.

>>3140167
and maybe add some bed bounce?

>>3140171
That could work I can't do anything until later though.

>>3140090
>just exaggerate the gesture and expression and you're there.
problem is, i don't understand what works when it comes to exaggeration. i've started studying how other porn artists handle it and i'm trying to apply it to my work but so far there's always this stiffness that creeps in.

thanks for the note regarding her armpit and the skin tone!

>>3140130
>>3140090
>You got a blog or smth? I'd like to see more.
https://basnip.tumblr.com/ not much in the same vein on there though.

>>3140220
>https://basnip.tumblr.com/
lol, already was following you. Didn't know you posted here!

>>3140220
This log on only Tumblr thing is starting to piss me off.

>>3139866
I know that feel since I am an artist of furs myself, but stay as far away as possible from the regulars that are not artists too. I have an acquaintance who is a fur, he lives like 10 minutes away from me but godamn is he annoying.

sum sketches

>>3140050
In many things I'm not as good as you, but I know that you should always draw the gesture with an idea. It sounds like a meme advice but bear with me -
what does she want, what's her attitude? Maybe she's playful, lightweight, carefree like a bird, like a nymph, like a goddess, like feather, like fire, explosive...
What about him? He's holding her in her arms, he's twitching, burning with desire to ram himself into her right away but he knows he can't, he has to wait with foreplay etc.. (since she's so playful), and I bet every second feels like an hour to him, he's fierce, he's primal, he's like an ape bursting with masculine power, a warrior, a god, a man.

These words are ideas, repeat them while you draw and let them guide your hand, your every move. Repeat them, feel it, imagine what she's like, not just what she looks like, and with practice, those simple ideas will imprint themselves into your work.

>>3140229
I'm with you, brother.
I hope Tumblr revenue drops from a fucking cliff and they take the useless policy away.

>>3140462
>Repeat them, feel it, imagine what she's like
So much this

>>3140331
That foreshortening on her right arm is real fucked up, construct it with solid cylinders next time.
A good thing is that the rest is drawn so well nobody will give a fuck about her arm.

>>3140486
noticed that, do u mind redline?

>>3140462
Blog? Your figures are smooth af mannigga

Trap butthole

>>3140331
>>3140497
Not exactly perfect but I'm tired as fuck.
Hopefully someone else will do a better job, good luck anon :)

>>3140517
Thank you bro, i'll try to fix it and i'll post here

>>3140514
Don't have one, I only hang around /ic/.
But thanks man, I appreciate it.

>>3140225
i dont really post that often but i lurk a lot.

>>3140462
thanks for the thoughtful crit and the redline, anon. gotta admit, i never built that kind of internal narrative when drawing. i imagine vague personality traits, but never anything in depth like you describe. it's a neat idea and it comes across in the redline -- her arm and head in particular seem more flirtatious and playful. good stuff.

I gave up on art and I am just going to draw porn of invader zim and other charecters now

Is there an artist /ic/ discord?

>>3140593
And I gotta admit that I kinda stole that advice from Steve Huston. But hey, he stole it from the old masters so who cares.
Don't take my drawing as a prime example, but I'm convinced the process is good.

>>3139866
>we have these rules based on furries being drama magnets

in my experience it's always been the people who make a scene over people posting furry art, never really understood the anger (also whenever i've posted furs nobody seems to bat an eyelash lol)

>>3139495
pleasepleaseplease excuse the shittiness of my animation (i shoulda used a ref) but wanted to quickly illustrated how in positions similar to the one you've animated most of the movement/force comes from the hips of the lower participant an travels up the the body of the person on top

>>3140050
>>3140220
you're work's cute, really like your forms
really really like that your boys are cute too~
have you considered drawing a comic of some sort and/or maybe developing some of your own characters to use through out your work? you'd be surprised how attached people get to other people's characters. established characters can also help a lot with "i should draw something but i don't know what" cause you could just go "i want character A to fuck character B" and then knowing their personalities/being familiar with how to draw them will aid both in what to actually draw them doing and how to quickly and appealingly achieve that

>>3140462
good advice

also tumblr has been hemorrhaging money it's entire existence cause unfortunately much like twitter nobody really knows how to monetize it in a way that can break even with the cost of running the servers let alone produce a profit. they're more or less kept afloat cause the big corps that own them feel the datamining is worth the cost. NSFW only being viewable by logged in accounts and dozens of other unwanted changes are all just desperate attempts to work on it's undesirableness to advertisers and attempt to lower a bit of the overhead

>drawing porn
>get a hard on once the details start coming out

I can't be the only one

>>3140594
That's great by me. I've always thought Zim was hot, don't ask

>>3140657
different anon, but can you show the timing?

>>3140594
oh damn, got a blog?

>>3140671
same

>>3140672
no probabo
frame 1 on the bottom person is anticipation for thrusting up
frame 2 is where the bottom person's thrust connects with the top person's descent
frame 3 is apex of bottom person's thrust
frame 4 on the top person is overshoot cause they keep traveling upwards a bit after the bottom person's hips descend cause isaac newton said so

everything else i kinda just did what looked right

need to remember to fix photoshop so that it's not a pain in the ass to animate in

>>3140657
That does look better but I can't fix mine so easily since it was drawn on paper. Reference may have been the problem in the viper gif the guy sits there and does all the work with his arms.

>>3140671
>>3140686
good to hear. Ive been obsessed with Zim for years, to the point of it being unhealthy.

>>3140683
I don't post much but sure
hayjayisgay.tumblr.com
I never reblog and I dont do any feelsposting or posts about life either, so it wont clutter up your shit.

>>3140723
thanks, I'm not active on tumblr at all desu, so it's just so I can follow you and not forget you existed

It seems like better advice and critique is given in porn threads as oppose to places that need them like /beg/?

I SUMMON KYLE

>>3140743
if someone already knows the basics of music theory i can teach them to play the drums or other instruments i know how to play or at the very least give them direction on how to learn, but i unfortunately lack the skills to teach basic music theory

same goes for art :c

>>3140517
Tried to fix it, not sure if i fixed it tho, but i guess it looks better at least

>>3140743
I made the first /beg/ threads years ago and I can say I regret it so fucking much.
The idea was originally to have a small hugbox and containment zone for people to post their basic exercise drawings and such, with some feedback.
Or people asking really basic questions like "I got trouble using my pencil to compare proportions if I do organic things like plants, how do I do it better?"
Basically rapid social encouragement for doing the basics. Think of it like clapping a kid on the back while trying to do his math homework.
It's positive reinforcement and really encouraging.

Instead, it turned into "My 101 course / book is better than yours" and people saying shit like "too stylized to critique". Everyone in the threads are so full of themselves, likely because they think they are advancing at lightning pace.
Hell, everyone is so stuck in their exercises that they never venture out, at the fear of doing 'autistic' drawings, or somehow going off the holy patch of /ic/, never realizing they have to apply what they learn to things wildly outside of what small box of exercises they have to do.

I saw a dude bragging about doing straight lines better than a professional concept artist, on their exercise papers, and feeling like he was better. Nevermind the conceptartist dude is good enough to do it full time. Nope, he did exercises better, therefore he is better as an artist (or, upcoming artist).

People in there are afraid now of drawing what they like, and are obsessed with being 'corect' all the time.
They don't know enough to be correct all the time. Going wild and drawings things you don't know how to are a part of the process.

If a beginner wants to get good, they NEED to find some art community where they are one of the worst people. Feel the atmosphere, sitting next to amazing artists doing things you could only dream of. Roasting marshmellows on a makeshift fire and laughing at stupid shit. Realize art is just a remix and part of life
/rant

>>3140331

very meaty and good drawing. post blog?

How long do you have to be drawing for before you can make stuff like what you guys are always posting here? I ask because I'm still only 3 months in or so and can't imagine being able to pull it off for years

>>3140875
Make porn now.
Do studies of porn.

You'll end up with simple drawings but it is porn regardless. Then just keep up with your usual exercises to not stagnate.

>>3140877
Great, that's basically been my gameplan so far. It's pretty painful having to look at how awful they usually turn out though. I'll keep at it and hopefully eventually I'll be good enough to post weirdo shit here as well

>>3140861
https://blooparchives.tumblr.com/

here my friend

>>3140884
>https://blooparchives.tumblr.com/


Hmm, yes, I will definitely follow you. Thanks.

>>3140889
Thank you anon

>>3140266
>having an irl furry friend

nigga what are you doing

>>3140892
>friend
nigga he literally came to my classroom after hearing I liked certain character from a videogame and started talking since then, he's a pretty shitty person but I take pity on him since he doesn't seem to have many friends and I don't like seeing people being alone

>>3140939
because you know what it feels like?

>>3140877
this is the exact opposite of what was said in the last thread

which one is actually true?????

>>3140657
Say, do you keep a blog?

>>3140999
That guy thinks studies and porn is mutually exclusive.
Hes probably a beginner himself.
Doing nothing but exercises and studies is a guranteed way to burn out. You can do multiple things

>>3141213
I'm not a beginner. I live off my art. and before you ask, I'm not going to post my work.
there's a certain way to approach learning step by step.
if you jump straight into figure drawing without previously learning AT LEAST SOME perspective and get proper line confidence, then you'll simply spend a lot more time trying to figure out how to draw proper humans, let alone porn, which involves interaction between figures.
some of you simply don't understand this concept. skipping learning stages and fundamental study is bad.
I'm not saying you can't do both, but expecting to get sound critique when you show you have no idea what you are doing is also the stupidest thing in the world.

it's like trying to teach calculus to somebody that doesn't know multiplication.

>>3141272
>and before you ask, I'm not going to post my work.
Discarded

>>3141280
I couldn't care less. if you beginner scrubbies want to keep doing this the wrong way, just go for it. less competition in the near future.

>>3141360

>>3141396
that's why you'll never gonna make it, famalino.

I don't draw. I photo manipulate. Like how a really good DJ mixes and forms music. I like my stuff, but no one else seems too. I only got a FB page: /thejohnsmithartist

Please let me know if you think it's cool, and any other suggestions. I go very high res, large. This pic is about 1/8 the size on pixels. I go with detail.

>>3141429
>I couldn't care less.
>Keep's needing to prove to himself he is right by constantly trying to convince me

>>3141438
>mistakes good advice for something else
gg

>>3141436
>kitsch, the pic
grats anon

>In the 1950s, Hunter S. Thompson, then working at Time Magazine, used a typewriter to copy down The Great Gatsby, as well as Ernest Hemingway’s A Farewell to Arms, in order to learn about the writing styles of the authors and feel what writing a great novel was like.
>He transcribed The Great Gatsby. All of it.

If I copy and entire doujin panel by panel, would that help me to learn how to write manga?

>>3141488
of course

Not sure if there's anything wrong with this head since I struggle with this angle. Any input?

>>3139495
>>3140703
actually, just bring her legs in more and have the dude lift her for more than an exposure of 3 or 4; maybe add inbetweens. k no more animation crits lol

>>3140657
>>3140657
>have you considered drawing a comic of some sort and/or maybe developing some of your own characters to use through out your work? you'd be surprised how attached people get to other people's characters. established characters can also help a lot with "i should draw something but i don't know what" cause you could just go "i want character A to fuck character B" and then knowing their personalities/being familiar with how to draw them will aid both in what to actually draw them doing and how to quickly and appealingly achieve that


id love to do a comic someday. hard to find the time right now though.

i really like the point about building up a familiarity with a character's personality and having that to lean on when drawing. i think that could be a good way to practice the advice anon gave in >>3140462. working towards a deeper understanding of a single character instead of going from blank slate to blank slate when sketching or doing gesture studies -- gotta try that.

>>3141502
touched it up and cleaned the line work.

>>3141502
Her right eye is a bit too low and her jaw seems a bit too small for an open mout.
Hope this helps.

>>3141531
Same anon that did the redline. The right eye position is much better, though I think it protrudes too much out of the skull (same as the eyebrow ridge I guess). You have to take into account the roundness of the skull.

I know these aren't very clean and there's some foreshortening issues going on. What I'd like to know is if you consider these fappable material no matter the sketchy unfinished quality they have.

1/4

Same as above.
2/4

Same as above.
3/4

Same as above.
4/4

>>3141554
>>3141555
>>3141556
>>3141557
I know you're pretty mercenary but do you have any characters of your own or do you just take commissions?

>>3141560
Just call me whore next time. It's more in tone with the material I draw.
I have a few OCs I want to turn into a comic sometime in the future, but right now I don't have the mental strength to spend my leisure time in front of my talbet, so I try to limit my arting time to what brings food on the table.

>>3141564
Show me one.

>>3141554
How long did these take?

>>3141582
2 hours more or less

>>3141570
My ideas are pretty boring. That's another reason I don't try to make my own stuff (comics and artworks) and have other people deal with stories and settings.

>>3141539
Thank you so much! Here's what I'm working on if you're curious

>>3141617
She's cute, I don't like drawing fan art of official characters, see you in a couple of days.

>>3141617
>dem tanlines
>dem tiddy
>dem yoga shorts

That's a simple but sexy OC and she has a cool name my nibba. Don't sell yourself short.

>>3141621
I really like the way you draw faces. In general this has a lot of appeal.
I took the time to redline it just a bit and give you some pointers here and there. Hope this helps.

>>3141722
Wew, thank you. Really!
I already rendered in the chair, but adding some depth the the side table should help. I'll adjust everything and then show you the WIP.

what brushes do you use for this? i know you have a pack with your CSP brushes but what one you use here >>3141556

>>3141722

while I dont agree with most of it, you surely fixed that goddamn arm, is that kind of subtlety I cannot grasp.

>>3141767
For these I used mostly a modified standard pencil brush with low opacity (for the lineart and some initial shapes), and then I refined it with a standard hard edge airbrush and hard edged eraser (both set to low density so I could use pressure to handle the values). I think it's more a matter of technique than the brushes. Check the recording of the pic on my picarto. You'll probably get more out of that, than my rambling about brushes.

>>3141554
Yeah definitely fappable. How come you're worried about fap appeal?

>>3141856
I tried a different approach I don't use normally. I like to get the opinion of people that aren't afraid of telling me when and what about my art sucks. I don't get any of that outside of here, and I am unable to rate the fappability of my stuff, cause I don't find it arousing.

>>3141722
WIP!
And yes, thanks for the arm especially. Originally she was sketched without holding something, but still that's no excuse.

>>3141872
Great work applying the changes. Also, freaking love that chair rendering. Great work, Anon.

>>3141488
Yes, that's how I learned, just copy to learn the style, it helps.

>>3141872
Holy shit that chair

Guys help, also how do you draw nipples?

Guys help, also how do you draw nipples?

>>3140884
How does one even use tumblr?
Is it even possible to find nsfw blogs on there or do you have to get links from outside?

>>3142132
outside links. You also need to have an account.

>>3141872
How do I learn to render awesome chairs senpai

>>3142156
Use references and understand lighting. Using a paintbrush-esq tool helps too.
I went off a ref for that.

>>3142176
Can I see the ref? Lighting seems a bit inconsistent with your scene. Characters aren't reflected in the metal for example

What do you think?

>>3142183
This is some major nitpicking, anon. No one will care if the characters are reflected in it. Anon can totally disregard that and it will still look good. The focus are the characters anyway.

>>3142413
The lower half of her body is over referenced compared to the upper half and the cartoony style in general.
I think it really doesn't work.

>>3139730
>>3139741
>>3139861
Unfriendly reminder anyone who legitimately wants any kind of content to be banned from /ic/ just because it hurts his feelings, is a fucking retard that should get off the ART AND CRITIQUE board. You are the cancer

>>3142480
thanks for the feedback, I get what you mean, the style of the face doesn't match the rest of the body. i didn't use reference though.

>>3142496
My bad then. I guess you should just try to go with a more cohesive kind of stylization. Also, make the hands smaller.

>>3142494
I agree to an extent. I will still report any kind of explicit underage art.

>>3141554
>>3141871

It's a nicely drawn image, but I personally feel on the fappability scale, the angle isn't showing much.

The erotic zones of the breasts aren't shown, which is fine but doesn't count; The butt is at an angle that you don't see much butt and it's also partially blocked and overshadowed by the tail. Feet are fine but I can't comment on that as i'm not into feet.

I think it's drawn very nicely just that nothing erotic jumps to the eye or seemingly emphasized at first glance.

>>3142551
I posted 4 pictures and asked about all of them. I wanted to know if the style/technique in general was appealing enough for fap material. The subject matter is something completely different in this case. The image you commented was meant just as a sexy pinup, not really something people would fap to. I appreciate your input nonetheless.

>>3141555
>>3141557
Are probably more in tone with what you are looking for. What about these?

Apparently my style doesn't suit lewds. Any of you have constructive criticism on why?

>>3142578
I'm afraid it's not about the style. There's tons of artists that use a similar style for lewds.
You lack fundamental knowledge. Perspective and proportions/anatomy in the first place.Get a step back and put some study time into these aspects of your art. Or at least try to focus more on that next time you draw a character. Use references to build a strong visual library. I think it's a bit too soon for you to try drawing from memory.

>>3142583
Care to elaborate? What specifically is wrong

>>3142611
I'm afraid most of it. I can do a redline, but that will mean redrawing the whole thing.

Trying out more flat style most porn artists seem to use.

Excuse the shitty scan. Anything look terribly wrong with this sketch?

>>3142616
Saying it's just all wrong isn't exactly constructive. What about the anatomy is wrong?

Another example

>>3142650
Different anon here. Everything is wrong. Go study and draw from reference before drawing from memory.

>>3142650
Here you go. As I said, I had to redraw everything.
I hope you'll manage to learn something out of this.

>>3142640
Love this. I don't see any glaring mistakes. It's appealing af.

>>3142704
You really shouldn't be doing all that work anon. It looks great, are you BBC-Chan? or the new BBC-Chan?

>>3142704
can I have a redline on this back view too, anon-sama?

>>3142719
W-who is the new BBC-Chan? I thought I was the only one.

>>3142720
I don't think you need a redline. The back looks pretty cool. Maybe there's a bit too much of the sideboob showing. Try putting the breast more behind her ribcage.

>>3142704
That's actually really fantastic and helpful- I'm gonna take a shot using these tips for an older doodle and see if there's improvement. Thank you a lot!

>>3142722
thanks, I tried to make it look farther from the arm. anything else?

I often get bogged down in details, which makes the whole thing stiff in the end as I redraw the basic figure in the sketch phase over and over again, losing the initial shape along the way. How do I avoid this? Is handwaving anatomy correctness in favor of long strokes and curves the only way at my level? I'd "post work" as an example but I physically can't at the moment.

>>3142739
I had problems with this as well. Keep an under sketch always visible and constantly flip back and forth to check and see if you are changing the form.

>>3142640
dude fix the tits, they look flat as fuck and the whole pose is generally bad too. ur hiding her left arm and theres no sense of balance on the legs

>>3142736

>>3142183
Once I add lighting to the characters, I'll adjust some reflections. More accurate colors that way.

>>3142704
c-can you be m-my master, bbc-sama?

I've spent stupidly long on this- tabbing between youtube videos and a bunch of anatomy pictures. Is there much improvement?

>>3142869
flash me

>>3142876
this is my most recent work, i feel something is wrong here. can you help me a bit?

>>3142704
Stop redlining.

>>3142894
stfu, we need more people like this

>>3142894
It was actually really appreciated- I'm the artist of the original and it is super helpful

>>3142898
>>3142902
We don't need another shitstorm, we can already see the ferocious dick sucking and the bbc chan internet defense force crawling out of the woodwork when feelings get hurt. You faggots are much too autistic for this and you know it.

>>3142894
What's the problem, anon?
If you have a good argument you might convince me. Shoot.

>>3142913
Oh, I see. The only reason there ever was a shitstorm was because of the doxx. Tho I'm really not sure why you're so concerned about this.

>>3142876
That wasn't me.

>>3142891
I'm not sure if you need any help, honestly. This face and gesture is very appealing. Only thing that might need some work are the hands and legs imo. Tho right now I can't spend any more time on redlines. Sorry.

>>3142915
see>>3142913
You're better off going to greener pastures m8 unless you want to be lumped with a bucket of crabs.

Why doesn't Kyle post here anymore? Did he take a break from art?

>>3142930
There's no place where I can get honest critique about my smut, other than here.
But yeah, I intend to lay low like gabe and kyle do.

>>3142874
I have no idea how to fix this damn pose

>>3142949

>>3142874
I did this for someone else yesterday. think it could help you build that head better.

>>3142945
Because faggots like you become obsessive little shits and get too close for comfort.

>>3142945
>3135297
He posts very little cause jelly trolls keep attacking him.

>>3142945
We might need him, but he certainly doesn't need us. It wouldn't be a mutually beneficial relationship.

>>3142704
>>3142874
I don't wanna tell you what to do with your time but c'mon man, you have to put the foot down sometimes.
This response >>3142583 was exactly what anon needed - it was neither rude nor vague.
Why should you do the 'tabbing between youtube videos and a bunch of anatomy pictures' for people who aren't willing to do it themselves? It's THEIR work, ffs.
You have to have respect for your time and understand its value, otherwise others won't have respect for it either.
tl;dr You're very kind, people will take advantage of you if you let them.
/rant

>>3142945
>>3135297
He posts very little cause jelly trolls keep attacking him.

>>3142974
I don't know if Kyle actually posted that.

>>3142972

This post >>3142583 and this post >>3142704 are both mine.

This post >>3142874 is not mine. This is anon's attempt at fixing his own art by using my pointers.

This post >>3142954 is mine again.

I know what you mean, but sometimes I like to do redlines and post them here publicly so that other anons can get some benefit out of them.

>>3142982
Fair point, but wouldn't it be better to save it for people who are at your level or slightly below it?
If you don't find someone like that, just work on your own art - that seems to be the best investment imho.

>>3143008
I don't really understand your train of thought here.
I do these redlines cause I like to help people. And also because I think it's actually good practice. I work on my art all the time.
Also, what's the point in helping people that are at my level, or slightly below it? I can't really help those people, because I'm not good enough to really help them. All I can do in that case is give them a second opinion or something.

>>3143012

I'm >>3141872 and I agree with you completely. I sometimes do red lines to help people and fine it good practice. Though, even I need red lines sometimes but that doesn't mean I can't help people.

>>3143008
We just like helping.

>>3143027
>>3143012
The help is much appreciated! I'm going to try out a similar style after work. But a new price instead of rehashing something old. Really sincerely I do appreciate the help and effort you guys put in

>>3143048
Thanks buddo.

>>3137992
WIP

>>3143093
are those actual midgets

>>3143012
Redlining someone similar to your skill is better because you can only redline a detail that's off, see how it corresponds to the whole and instantly check if your input fits the style and standard, as opposed to redrawing the entire figure, where you stay in your own way of doing things and don't learn anything.
The recipient (way below your level) will only see the end result, the figure, and assume that simply redrawing that one picture will fix their problem, when the real problem doesn't even have anything to do with that figure - it's the basic inability to communicate form, which is better learnt from an artbook or a course (which are available on ic) than from a redline.

I'm very clumsy at explaining myself tho, so if you disagree I won't argue.

>>3143095
It's gnomes from WoW. Commission.

>>3143093
The rendering is inconsistent with the figures and the environment they're in.
See 1:43:25
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7J5Zr9JsPk

>>3143115
Thank you. Now adjusting values.

>>3143100
Oh well, I guess you are right. I won't do redlines here anymore. Feels bad being unappreciated, which is usually the only thing that motivates me. I'll just move away from /ic/ for good. This place is way 3 edgy 5 me I guess.

>>3143162
Wew. I don't think anyone said you aren't appreciated. Everyone here likes our help and we appreciate theirs. It's your choice, but I guess I didn't expect you to come to that conclusion. I mean, I don't want to sound condescending, but if you are BBC, I didn't realise how weak spirited you were to that kind of stuff.

>>3143168
Yo, I don't think that's BBC man.

>>3143168
It's as you/they said. I'm wasting my time. I guess being altruistic is BS. It's better that I focus on my own art. I'm glad I helped an anon and I'll still keep doing that (just not here). Each time I come here I realize again and again how destructive and negative people that come here really are. I simply feel bad for mingling among such people. 4chan really isn't the place for me.

tl;dr Yeah, it's not you, it's me.

Um...... please r8 m8s

My first ever lude sketch and its this .. Somethings wrong with me

>>3143181
don't stop senpai !

>>3142974
>>3142979
Trolls can fuck off. He needs to start drawing more traps and futa.

>>3143238
I'm telling you, Kyle's not here man.

>>3142747
The tits are flat? You sure you responded to the right post?

>>3143221
reported

just finished this

>>3143221
>Somethings wrong with me
Yeah you're missing values.

>>3143115
WIP. Did my best with what I had. I'm on time constraints and this pic is quite overdue.

>>3142618
the way you drew the first two heads really destroy the perspective.

>>3142578
the art style isnt the problem
the head is drawn in the wrong perspective
and the arms are way too short
the hand is too small
the left ass and leg is too low
the rest is decent, just erase what ever i said what was wrong with it and try to see if you can fix it

>>3143325
No you didn't.

>>3142413
the face is extremely boring
its ruining the whole thing

>>3143350

>>3142304
atleast you're drawing foreheads now
those deltoids are too spherical, the collar bone is too low and the biceps are too long

>>3141554
howd you learn to render/paint like that
i've been struggling pretty hard
pic is mine

Obviously sketchylines are obvious, mostly just blocking in where I want everything before redoing the linework again.

>>3143181
Unfortunately being decent human beings isn't quite for 4chan, shit sucks.

>>3143321
If its any consolation shes meant to be undead

>>3143352

>>3143356
thanks, i'll work on those next pic, tho i can't guarantee it'll be sammy in that one

>>3141272
Kill yourself, faggot.

>>3138965
no one in beg ever helps so i guess i'll post this here and see what you guys think.

>>3143388
Am i looking at a wiki how pic?

>>3143576
the advice in >>3142583 applies here as well. if i were you i'd focus on drawing geometric forms in perspective -- boxes, pyramids, cylinders, that sort of thing, eventually combining them to build up figures. it's boring but it works.

>>3143599
gotcha anon. thanks a ton.I'm decent at basic forms already but i do need perspective work, and i need to study muscle groups.

>>3143350
>>3143353

ah, good catch. should be more attentive to the gelatinous properties of boobs in the future

>>3143576
her neck is way too thick for her head and shoulders
the eyes are too close together
nose is too small
the penis is extremely flat

Done, I think.

>>3143800
that rendering made it go from decent to appealing as all fuck, good stuff yo

Hopefully some progress in terms of posing and anatomy? This is just the sketch layer but constructive criticism is fully welcome!

Is there like, an equivalent of the sticky for porn? How to come up with arousing poses, etc? Is there a porn loomis?

>>3143834
Just keep track of the last last images you fapped to and think about why you fapped to them

>>3143181
I'm sorry that the toxic environment that this place breeds. I found your redlines incredibly useful and saved the resources for the future. I'll be absolutely delighted if I see you around again, but if not, I understand entirely. Sorry for the shithole. It's mostly crabs pulling each other down.

/ic/ has porn-generals now?

I recently got back into drawing, surprised I could do all of pic related but not draw faces.

Having a thread to post in will boost the motivation to continue.

>>3143100
of course. as soon as someone competent shows up, autismos have to ruin everything because they can't handle having to watch people that are better than them. kys.

>>3143181
Fuck those retards and make some sort of blog with redlines of sketches here or drawings that people would send your way. I find your insights useful and cool way to learn by example. Throwing good will at 4chan is like throwing money to the puddle.

>>3143800
Blog?

>>3143834
Poses and composition are one of the hardest parts of this game.

>>3143800
Contact info?

>>3143937
/ic/ has had porn generals for years desu

anything I should fix up before I do the finalize lineart?

>>3144367
I would clean up the hands a little bit, you'll thank yourself for it when doing the final line. I would also make her thighs a bit thiccer but that might be taste.

>>3140517
>>3140462
yoooo I love your brush

>>3144367

>>3144367
face is out of perspective compared with her head.

>>3144382
anon, you're the hero /ic/ needs

>>3144367
Hey anon, even if it is a sketch try not chicken scratch it, try to keep your lines flowy and precise, you can go over them again, play around but dont go over the same line 5 6x times in a imprecise way

also try to keep at least a small angle to your head so it wont appear flat,

>>3144367

>>3144528
your redlines are not very good. please dont try to act like a teacher if you dont add improvement.
>>3144382
did a much better job. please practice your stuff first.

>>3144367

>>3144629
>>3144618
>>3144528
>>3144382
Is this a meme now?

>>3144627

Not acting like a teacher actually i dont consider my self even near that, if you could please point out it for me what i could do to help in a better way instead of just implying the pointless would be a good start.

>>3144636
I tried, anon. I like your forms, but each of them are just a bit off/misinterpreted.

>>3144651
Thank you anon !

>>3144651
Thank you, i rushed it a bit so there are stuff i didnt paid enough attention, mostly wanted to point out the fact the lines were too sketchy, im no good on redlining or crit, but tried to help anyway,

>>3144636
>>3144651
this isnt me. i feel the need to point it out because this redline isnt good either. the hips are messed up with the legs just sorta sticking out from the body and the body looks like a cucumber with no shape..

>>3144681
please dear anon you seem to be very good, redline it for us all

>>3141554
>and there's some foreshortening issues going on
are there? can't see anything wrong with foreshortening.

>>3144219
>>3144084
https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=2564922

>>3144367
>>3143937
>>3143576
>>3143325
>>3142578
>>3142115

find a beginners thread, this garbage is offensively bad you make kindergarten kid art look good

>>3144830
>you are the reason why good artists leave /IC/

>>3144651
here, i did another one more carefully based on what you pointed, this might work better now for a redline, what u think anon

>>3144975
wew. Much better. Though the head angle still seems awkward. If I were you, I would only have a gradual tilt.

>>3143340
Done!

>>3144975
blog?

>>3144830
I posted in the beginners thread and got no response so I posted here too. Thanks for the very helpful and welcome critique

>>3143937
I don't understand why you're getting shat on by other users, I'd say it has potential - mainly because it has that 'appeal'.
Keep posting, pay more attention to joint orientation (dislocated ankles) and no attention to trolls and you should be fine.

>>3144374
It's Krita's basic sketch brush on 100 opacity. I've tried many to simulate that traditional experience and this compares surprisingly well.

>>3144830
I don't know who you are anon, but I hate you

Just finished this last night. I'm quite happy with how the colors came out. :D

>>3145514
You are polishing turds, anon. Learn how to foreshorten your lineart sketches (learn perspective) and then add all the fancy rendering. Right now this looks like a flat pancake, not a body.

>>3145527
Commissioner wanted a top-down view pinup of their character. Perspective wasn't really an option.

>>3145530
It's decent work, but I think what anon was trying to say is that you're too caught up in rendering, when really you should be troubleshooting your drawing skills.

>>3145539
Probably. I did figure out a new trick while rendering. But aside from lack of perspective, I don't see what's wrong with the overall anatomy of the picture.

>>3145530
>Perspective wasn't really an option
What's this supposed to mean?
You think perspective doesn't apply to the drawing you did here? Do you even know what perspective is?
How the hell do you think you will ever be able to draw appealing porn without first learning proper perspective?
Either go a step back and rethink your fundamental knowledge (you don't even know what perspective is, ffs), or keep polishing turds, anon. It's up to you.

>>3145547
>aside from lack of perspective, I don't see what's wrong with the overall anatomy of the picture
You answered yourself. Lack of perspective is what's wrong with your picture.
I mean, cmon. I wouldn't care if a non artist person said that and didn't care, cause they don't draw. But being an artist and saying such obtuse things is really ridiculous.

>>3145547
>I did figure out a new trick while rendering.
what trick was that?

>>3145549
>>3145550
Alright, from now on I will apply perspective to my drawings more properly. Mind you I've already got about 10 pictures already past the sketch day, so I'm not sure if time constraints will let me edit much. Pic related.

>>3145514
>>3145527
>>3145549
All this nitpicking from people who probably couldn't draw a turd let alone polish one. Unless there's a 20x hand in the foreground and a -20x foot in the back they don't consider it as having their idea of perspective. POST YOUR WORK and lets see your masterful perspective skills anon.

>>3145557
An anon mentioned before that my characters didn't look like they were in the background, that they just looked pasted in. So I learned that by adding similar values in shading and lighting in characters as it is in the background helps a lot.

>>3145561
aha. ya that makes sense. thanks!

>>3145560
Seeing problems in other people's art and trying to help them see them too is considered a bad thing? I mean, isn't this how critique works? Since when you have to back all you say with your own art? Non artists that have a critical eye can be just as helpful. A fresh perspective (no pun intended) is always a good thing.

Anyway.
http://bbc-chan.tumblr.com
Here's my work.

>>3145559
Perspective should be second nature. That's why I said you should put more thought into it. You have to learn it to the extent where you don't need to put thought into it. The more you think about technicalities when you make art, the less you can let yourself go and express your true artistic vision. That's the reason why grinding fundamentals is a good thing. Wax on wax off, so that you don't even have to think about this stuff anymore and you can focus only on the artistic part of your work.

>>3145469
Thanks!

I couldn't solve that foot of hers at all.

>>3144333
Not like these though?

It's been years since I've been here though.

>>3145587
Thanks BBC. I'll be sure to think more about perspective.

>>3145587
Is this really bbc? bbc's critiques are always constructive and polite, this >>3145549 seems way out of character.

>>3145635
Now that I think about it, yeah. And he usually does a red line too.

>>3145635
>>3145639
You'll never know for sure :^)

my mom's hairdresser follows me on instagram (don't know how she found me, she was told i did art). i want to post a lewd drawing, but i don't know if i should

>>3145690
My old coworkers at a bakery, my hairdresser, and all of my family (extended included), know I draw dick girls for a living.
They're all proud of me.

>>3145690
>>3145698
NO
ONE
CARES

>>3145699
:o

Crit me

>>3145710
kys pedo

>>3145710
Lewdness would increase if you left the gloss on his shaft in the last panel.

>>3145710

>>3145710
>tfw muscular demon girls will never overpower you and forcefully suck on your tiny penis

As if I needed another reason to kill myself today

Female knight getting fucked by goblins and dissolving armour. The anatomy is fucked but it's too late to change it now. The left thigh is supposed to look more at an angle, I hope to can savage that with better lighting.

>>3145839
REEEEEEEEEE

>>3145849
Like I said, too late to change shit, just gotta push on and savage what I can, and get good on the next piece.

>>3145861
Why not?

>>3145861
How about you do some studying instead of pushing out a piece of shit from your anus?

>>3145868
Each piece I make is a study. Some of them don't see the light, but I finish them all.

>>3145871
You won't get very far if you study everything all at once.

>>3145877
I don't, I try to get good on the bit I study with every piece, then move on to a new bit and repeat. Though it might not be the best way, it's a way I find most enjoyable.

>>3145877
what's wrong with studying everything at once?

>>3145912
It takes more time to process it instead of tackling one thing at a time and understanding much quicker. It'll just slow you down and ends up being overwhelming.

>>3145559
WIP.
Reworked the entire thing.

>>3145935
i like the use of the 3d background. do you throw them together in a modeling app or something?

>>3145967
Lol, that's not a 3D background.

>>3145967
>>3145979

>>3145998
oh dang. looked like a 3d environment to me. nice work.

What about this one?

>>3145720
You're right, you're so right.

>>3145728
Oh my gosh. Thanks for the red, well, white line. I learned a few things about myself just then.

>>3145733
Maybe one day

>>3145998
>it's all just an carefully done illusion
So now I see.

>>3146243

>>3146253
You're a gosh darn lifesaver you know that right?

>>3146269
Thanks. I needed that. :>

>>3146271
What about this m8?
Besides the off colored arm

>>3146305
Actually that one looks nice. The boobs look fake but idk if that's what you were going for.

Is this composition ok? I'm not sure if I should even bother adding the stanbot (thing on left).

>>3145839
>>3145861
>>3145871
>>3145889
start fucking using references. that's what studies are. if you study your shitty visual library, you won't learn anything. how can you be so fucking dumb?

>>3146614
you are actually getting worse and worse.
start drawing simple geometrical bodies in perspective and then move onto studying reference pics. leave invented characters alone if you want to improve.

How's the anatomy looking so far?

>>3146664
Relax man, no need to be so hostile. I do use photo references, but I'm still an amateur artist, I wouldn't get things right in my first few attempts. Stay positive man.

>>3146682
Arms are way too big. Imagine if she had her hands to her sides, they'd look huge.
Also make her eyes bigger and a bit lower.

nice thread everyone
let's keep being hepful to each other!

>>3146862
ya good thread this go around. g'job everyone

>>3146305
>>3146371
Changed my mind.

>>3147134
backwards text fixed.

Would love any feedback on this! Draw-overs appreciated!!

>>3147316
WHY YOU HANGIN WITH THEM BUSTERS LIKE BABS

amazing work in here fellas

you're all gonna win it (-:

>>3147134
Oh and Gumbo for God sakes learn your anatomy already. You've improved but very barely.

>>3147140
ah thanks lad.
Ill take you up on that /hm/ deal

>>3148522
rip.

n-new t-thread nani-desu-kun?

What are your thoughts on references as direct as this?

>>3149099
whatever works, anon.

>>3149099
No one really cares. Great artists pretty much copy references all the time.