/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3141828
We already have a muh style thread.

First time drawing with a non-transparent brush. I'm begining to like this

reposting my shrooms.

>>3141828
from yesterday

I'm considering adding color to this or something, not sure.

>>3141942
I really like this, your lineart is nice

>>3141948

I'm >>3141942


I think we both suffer from drawing too small. You could refine your (nicely stylized) drawing better with more space. Just my opinion.

>>3141952

Thanks, bud.

>>3141948
Beautifull linework. Just don't get confortable.
And I'd love to see color

I think it's done now...I think.

>>3141828
>My Image is OP

I've arrived.

>>3141948
>>3141863
Looking good.

Here's a Junji Ito inspired illustration I did for a halloween zine.

>>3141983
your worst one out of all the stuff you've posted.

queue more excuses and other bullshit instead of admitting this isn't your best.

>>3141948
Careful with the shoulder, maybe it's too wide for a girl
>>3141942
I like your line, so free yet powerful!

a doodle

>>3141948
post more
post sketchbook pages
also, blog?

>>3142026
I don't know why you even fucking bother. It's obvious you don't study or are serious. It's also obvious you're a progressive, virtue signaling, "I need feminism" attention seeker.

God, I fucking hate you. You're doodle shows nothing. No structure, nothing.

>>3141863
I won't bother you with more pages. I'm going to sleep

>>3142056
good.

>>3141863
>>3142056
Good stuff my dude, I like it!

did this today

>>3142076
perspective on pot is wrong

>>3142020
this is cringe

>>3142085
I was trying to play with perspective and likeness in the drawing... do you have any crits about the painting part and not the drawing part?

>>3142020
This is very nice, I like it

>>3142076
Do you do mentoring Brian

>>3142143
what do you wanna know

>>3142020
id position his right (HIS right) leg differently; looks like hed fall over, and thats even without the big sword on that side.

Looking for some critique on this character I'm developing. She's going to be the main protagonist of a superhero-esque story--in a "mild-mannered Clark Kent" sort of way--and I'm wondering how she's looking for that role. Another thing I'm trying to account for is the fact that her superpowers are going to come as a result of a transformation. Thus, she's got to have some distinctive features to carry over between forms.

Also, any feedback on technical details would be appreciated.

what lines to leave in
what lines to leave out

>>3142283

Maybe give her some more details? The drawing itself looks good, but she looks rather bland.

>>3142283
>sketch
yeah sure okay

Did this today

>>3142414
1)Make his ear and nose smaller
2)Define the collar bone
3)The drappery on his shoulder must have form and volume too. Right now it's flat. Define it the same way you did with the face, by crosshatching.

I also don't see any lines worth riding away now

>>3142046
Kill yourself

>>3142511
n'awww. Keep "drawing" the same old, gender fluid anime bullshit. Let's see where you end up. you faggot.

>>3142577
Go fuck yourself. Maybe I like drawing this shit, so fucking what bitch? huh? you think i'm here to please you fucker?

>>3142026
Work in bigger resolution. It gives much more possibilities.

>>3142581
Yes, actually you are. You post your shit fag art to be seen by others. It's obvious you only want praise. Too bad. You're lower than a hobbyist.

How to hair? It feels matte and blocky.

>>3142046
>>3142602

Is it virtue signaling to make such a obvious display of disdain on an anonymous image board?

>>3141828
>>3141994


I haven't watched AT recently, did something happen to her face?

>>3142667
Neither have I, just wanted to draw draw scars.

another value study , I guess ill be doing these for about a month more before I try colors but Im happy with the progress

going to move on now. Too much spent on this. Something to critique for the next thing? i feel somethings weird but dont know what.

>>3142827
push your values

>>3142605
That's how it should feel for anime.

>>3142838
yo mean more contrast?

>>3142858
yes

>>3142466

Mm. That's been kind of my nagging feeling, too. On the one hand, I want her to have a plain-Jane sort of look, the better to keep her secret identity secret, but at the same time, I realize the main character has to be distinctive in appearance. It's a tight balancing act.

Any recommendations?

>>3142487
Meh, semantics. But yeah, I suppose I might've used "lines" instead.

>>3142005
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>3143099
are you the guy who said he barely draws yet still became very solid? why am i garbage anon?

Please crit m8s, first time sketching since January

>>3142166
fuck off brian its a yes or no question now youll lose an opportunity because youre speaking in tongues

>>3143148
Wtf? I don't even know what mentoring would mean. If you want to learn something you think I can help with just fucking ask me

>>3143128
Stop drawing I don't wanna see this shit ever again

>>3142498
symbol drawing

>>3143202
what did you hate about it? looking for real crit

>>3143202
>>3142086
>>3142046
>>3143215

very helpful /ic/ is helpful. This is why pro's hate this place

>>3143156
Brian pls help, how can I get more accurate colours.

I'm trying to do stuff from life for the first time and I'm struggling with how to get accurate or more emphasized colours like you do with your paintings. I know it's digital and you do traditional, but you seem to have a pretty good grasp and I wanna bring that into my digital.

>>3143128
Go to the beginner thread, I believe draw threads are for more finished pieces or more developed artists, these seem like practice doodles.

Keep up the work though anon, I really like the one on the far right looks like something you could take into an actual painting, though I'd take it to alternate style rather than here.

Ignore that faggot anon and keep up the good work, no slacking!

Talent is earned not given.

>>3142498
Go to the Alternative Style thread, stop doing bust shots only your only limiting your abilities. Your lines are sloppy, slow down take your time with them a good rule is if something is over lapping or closer it generally has thicker lines. A good video to watch on this is by Scott Robertson.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0zl5NnEAyU

Even though the subject is a vehicle it can be applied to everything.

Colour is okay but once again sloppy and you could definitely do a lot better so stop rushing and take your time. Good thing is you seem to have some understanding about translucency which is good, but at this point focus more on understanding. Can you do a a perfect rendered sphere from different angles? My guess is no so go back and get that down, you don't have to solely focus on those sort of text book things all the time, do some fun pieces you like to keep you interested in the topic, all work and no play makes you a dull anon.

Design, well I think you already know what I'm gonna say...sloppy, but also boring and nothing that would stick in my memory. Before starting a drawing plan out the characters life, what is his/her interest what are they like personality wise. An example of this would be Johnny Depp's Character Jack Sparrow, in an interview he said that the things attached to Jacks hair actually came from his biggest inspiration for the character Keith Richards a rock and roll legend. When hanging out with Keith he noticed that he had weird random objects attached to his hair, Kieth told Depp that wherever he went he collected something and attached it too his hair as a sort of memory trinket. Depp thought this was pretty interesting and Jack Sparrow being a sort of rebel and a rock star type personality he then bought this into the characters design. This is what you want to think about when you design a character, because it gives them life and makes the viewer think more.

>>3142772
Looks good but try to use a soft brush just to smooth out the skin a bit, you're brush marks look too sloppy at the moment but you're definitely improving.

Keep going, you can do it.

>>3143295
Is this better?

>>3143302
>>3143327
>>3143334

>>3143298
the same rules apply, you shouldn't be painting according to the colors and light you are looking at, you should be making art. even in digital, you want to apply the same rules as traditional. Darks need to be darker, so the light has as much impact as it would as if you are looking at it in person.

That's what makes nature so difficult to imitate, is that it is at once both light, and the absence of light. Whether digital or traditional, you cannot work with both light AND dark. So the appearance of life in great artworks isn't because they just painted what they were looking at, it's because they found a way to imitate the interplay of light and dark found in nature, in their own work.

Try doing 1 or 2 greyscale studies from life to practice exaggerating light and dark.

A lot of learning colors simply comes down to learning values.

>>3143379
Thank you, I'll start on your advice straight away see you anons in a couple days.

>>3142605
Anime is not my stuff and If I'va said something that is not applied to anime or something, don't hesitate to correct me.

Go from general to specific, probably you've already heard that, but it's important. Get your general values and colors and then you paint hair-by-hair. Also, keep the colors simple.

Here's the prosess
-Start by aplying a basic color with the major values(big soft brush)
-Push those values and apply basic shading
-Details. In this state you can play with the colors, but if you do it before, you'll get confused

>>3143345
Great work! Isn't it satisfying to help people rather than shitposting?
Let's make /ic/ great again!!

>>3143379
A lot of the "you need to know the rules to break them" is very much centered on an understanding of the rules of light and dark, and imitating them in your work. A good outline is nice, pretty colors are good and all, but the only real rule of art that I think matters is if you can transliterate a light source into whatever painting or drawing medium it is you are working in. Getting it perfect is what artists work towards their whole life, but all of them have the same basic understanding of imitating nature in their work, not by painting what you are looking at, but by creating artwork that creates the illusion of what they are looking at.

So just remember that in painting there's no perfect way to express exactly what you are looking at, translated into paint or pixels, but being able to iterate on the values, lines, and colors to improve on what you did before is vital to the artistic spirit.

Light and Darkness, and their relationship, is the only thing art needs to be about. A painting with a perfect interplay of those two things is the only concept you need. It expresses humanities feelings on morality, the afterlife, each other, fears, hopes, everything, and nothing. Even if it's simply a painting of a bottle of soda.

>>3143379
Whoa, mind blown. Brian has finally answered why great artworks look so great.

>>3143379
you've been here for so long and you're still so bad

>>3143395

Stop posting portraits of me online, plz

>>3143379
You had a tablet this whole time? Never seen you use it.

>>3143400
no

>>3143400
mareena?

>>3143411
Good taste.

>>3142001
Nothing said about this yet?

Well let me, I think you captured his style in a more fun and uplifting way, it feels a lot more like cartoony horror compared to Junji but I like it a lot and it works well. While glancing it over I saw those hands, and they look a bit weird if you look at them to long but with this I don't think people will notice too much.

Good work, though next time post in the Alternative Style thread, I think this drawing would match that area better and you'd probably get more response.

>>3143411
Fix those lips butter ball.

>>3143411
Don't be ashamed to use hand references. I used to be like you, tring to prove that I can draw hand easily, and you can, but you'll realise that using a reference changes everything.
I draw reference-free the hand position and then I go to the bathroom and take a picture of my hand in that same position. It looks way more natural and expressive, you'll see, and it's specially important in a composition where the hands take soo much importance like yours.
Aside from that It's cool, weird face, but cool

>>3143401
I'm really bad at it. Like learning another language so I don't even try. Think I started too late.
>>3143394
voila

What would you anons say my drawing level is based off pic related? As in beginner, intermediate, etc.

>>3142029
>post more

I got a set of markers today! Never worked with markers before, so I'm just kinda getting started with them. It's fun though!

>>3143481
Intermediate

>>3143481
Post your blog, we can't identify your level from one picture with a few doodles.

I swear to go you better fucking post your blog, fucking post your blog you little shit. God I am angry, not with you anon.

>>3143379
How do I learn to draw from imagination?

>>3143529
Watch this, follow the advice to build your visual library.

https://youtu.be/dnflBERf2zM

>think out a design/painting, make a mind map if you have to
>collect inspirations and reference for your piece
>study the pictures try to get a feel for what you're drawing and which images are most important
>start thumbnailing coming up with an idea for a painting/drawing
>take you're favorite one and move forward with it
>draw
>if you get stuck on where to go with you're drawing look at you're collected images/references
>repeat till complete
>eventually you won't need to collect the images and you'll be able to do stuff solidly from imagination

This is just one method another is drawing from memory, look at kim jung gi's work and try to understand his methods.

>>3143529
im a fine artist not an illustrator. My advice to you is if you can't draw from imagination already become a fine artist, because that's talent, not a learned skill.

>>3143553
>My advice to you is if you can't draw from imagination already become a fine artist, because that's talent, not a learned skill.
drawing from imagination is talent, not a learned skill* but anyone can be a fine artist. My memory is terrible, I can't draw anything without a reference. I'll never be an illustrator

>>3143487
jeez, on second thought, don't post more.

>>3143555
These are cool, anon.

>>3143553
>>3143554
So that's the difference between a fine artist and an illustrator. Being able to draw from imagination. Makes a lot of sense when thinking about it.

>>3143553
>>3143554
Holy shit kill yourself and your awful advice, drawing from imagination comes from building a visual library.

Please stop giving harmful advice and leave /ic/.

>>3143561
Ignore him, he's either purposely giving you bad advice or doesn't know shit. Fine artist can have imaginative work any art medium/area can it's flawed thought from the start.

Anyone can draw from imagination, is it hard for people who never do it? Yes, but so is cooking and just like cooking it can be learned and perfected.

Go to a museum,GO OUTSIDE, read books, watch films, hell play videogames (not much, try to limit yourself) then try to recall those things in your mind and draw. If it doesn't look right get some reference to fix it.

Holy shit I'm angry as fuck.

>>3143555
I like them, please paint them.

>>3143555
>garbage.png
You're the kind of cunt who posts shit like "just a little doodle XD" on a 3+ hour piece, aren't you?

>>3143566
you faggots who feel the needs to sperg out everytime somebody does this are much, much worse.
nice inferiority complex faggot, post your work.

>>3143566
I guess so. I just can't believe I spent so much time on something I knew had so many flaws. All I wanted was to lay down some ideas and I ended up doing lineart over it instead of keeping it sketchy. I spent way more than 3 hours on this. Sorry I offended you little girl.

>>3143561
>>3143562
if you have literal severe autism, and can draw cities from memory after a helicopter ride, you can make it as an illustrator in 2017.

Great fine artists who "work from imagination" don't do it based on a photographic "visual library". Look at Murakami. He's not photographically recreating images like Kim Jung Gi, a talented illustrator, but he works from his limited imagination and makes the focus on his creativity. If you asked Murakami to draw realistically from his head without reference I doubt he could do it as convincingly as KJG if he could even manage it at all. But that's not what makes a great fine artist.

Anybody can be creative, not everybody can draw from imagination and memory.

>>3143583
>Anybody can be creative, not everybody can draw from imagination
If I could tattoo this on the inside of every /ic/ anon's eyelids, I would

>>3143583
But just what is creativity if not imagination? Also can you re-explain with a different example than Murakami?

>>3143583
>>3143585
Anon asked

>How do I LEARN to draw from imagination?

NOT "how can I draw something perfectly from my mind"

You learn by drawing the object from imagination then studying images of said object, figuring out your mistakes then trying to draw it once again and you repeat till you can or at least get it close.

>Anybody can be creative, not everybody can draw from imagination and memory.

Unless you have the IQ of a chimp I refuse to believe that if a person studies and draws for hours each day, builds his visual library and gathers a good understanding of something that he couldn't then draw said thing he's studied from imagination.

You both are wrong and are giving awful advice, please stop or post your work and prove me wrong with you're amazing art skills. Your giving unprofessional advice and it's pissing me off, you're what killing /ic/.

>>3143556
ah, what did I do wrong?

>>3143594
Philip Guston, Giorgio di Chirico, and Pablo Picasso. All incredibly creative, all relied heavily on references for their work, whether abstracted or idealized.

Think of it this way, what is more valuable for an artist, being able to create, or being able to imagine?

Picasso didn't imagine his great paintings, he was too busy creating them.

>>3143606
Looking at it more I realize pretty much everything is wrong, eugh. I am sorry.

>>3143604
>I refuse to believe that if a person studies and draws for hours each day, builds his visual library and gathers a good understanding of something that he couldn't then draw said thing he's studied from imagination.
You "refuse" to believe that, yet you probably unironically attribute KJG's ability to draw completely from his head and memory as "Godhood". It's one or the other /ic/. Either it's talent and "godhood" and is impossible to learn, or anybody can learn to draw like KJG if they work hard enough.

Can't have it both ways. Impossible to have a conversation if you believe two conflicting things equally.

>>3143327
Wew an actual good critique, I'll take your advice and spend some more time working on line and form etc. Also rushing is probably one of my biggest weaknesses, which i'll also try to work on too. Thanks again for taking the time to actually write something valuable

>>3143612
>implying implications about what I believe
>thinking /ic/ is one person

Yes I do believe that it is a great feat to be able to draw most anything from memory, do I believe it deserves the word Godhood? No, nor have I ever referred any artist to "Godhood", they're people who study and took time to learn something until they got it correct.

>anybody can learn to draw like KJG if they work hard enough.

That is the only correct thing which I believe in your post, I don't believe in talent I believe in hard work. Talent is earned not given.

You should stop posting, you're only embarrassing yourself.

>>3143617
I think it's more achievable to be able to draw like Michelangelo, Monet, or Rembrandt than it is to learn to draw like KJG.

We just disagree. There's some artists on /ic/ who are more suited to being illustrators, and some who are more suited to being fine artists, and sometimes people on here are spending time trying to be something they're not.

>>3143623
Well I suppose we both have our own methods and thoughts, I shouldn't of been so aggressive so I apologize but I get worked up sometimes, something about talking about methods and art gets me going.

Good luck on your journey and I suppose people will choose whichever advice they believe to be correct.

>>3143488

Thanks anon

>>3143497

No blog, just a bunch of jpegs on my computer. Thanks though, will keep this in mind and post one when I ask the same question in the future.

>>3143487
I like it.

>>3143638
This too.

Also tried neural sketch colorizer it's fun

>>3143412

in animu? thanks.

>>3143433

lips to tend to give me trouble a lot of the time. can you be a bit more specific?

>>3143449

i did start out using some reference for it in the early stages, but i guess i stopped paying too much attention to it somewhere in the process.
your solution sounds pretty good tho, and i will try using it in the future. thanks!

>>3143487
can i have another woman please?

>>3141828
tricky angles
did i break her neck?

>>3144114
should probably turn the torso more toward us.

>>3144114
Vetyr?

>>3143941
Looks promising

>>3141828
Oh hey, you finished it what happened to those nice pillars, my man?

>>3144498
Very nice

I don't know how far I want to take this. Do you think it's worth take it to a final step?
The design of the main dude needs a LOT of work still, I just placed that blank space because I wanted to draw the animals. Anyway, how's the composition?

Below I'm posting a really really basic value block-up just to help you get it a little bit more, but I need to work on the designs and the linework before adding any values

>>3144787

>>3144634
Thank you m8

Sorry for my nonexistent art skills, here's a girl that I tried to make cute

bleh bleh bleh.

>>3144787

Take this redline with a grain of salt, largely doing it because I like the drawing and thought it'd be fun to add to (with the added benefit of helping you out, potentially).

If there's anything beneficial I have to say, I feel like you could make this drawing stronger by establishing and reinforcing more of a focal point, and by paying closer attention to negative space.

Also that bottom hand is hard to draw holy shit.

>>3144920

Corrected some values

>>3145093
right hand , one thats facing us seems a tad bit too short / small to me compared to left one thats supposed to be even further away , but I might be wrong

>>3143555
They don't have defining silhouettes so it'd be hard to tell them apart.

something

>>3145137
I love you anon. That negative space with the snake and the foreshorting in the right of the composition will save this piece. Thanks you so much for the help and the time

>>3141828
>cute girl
>op's autistic drawing
Pick one

I guess today is not my day , dropped a ball with this study.

i am weeb trash but hello artists
how do i make do better

>>3145785
How do I get as good as you?

Have another shroom, guys.

>>3145151
I like it! very nice!
>>3145761
There's something wrong wiht the game but I knew it was from the movie just by looking at it, good job.
>>3145785
Beautiful
>>3145857
cool!

>>3145151
I like it! very nice!
>>3145761
There's something wrong wiht the face but I knew it was from the movie just by looking at it, good job.
>>3145785
Beautiful
>>3145857
cool!

>>3143487
Cute. Draw hair like masses, not strands, and don't listen to the anon telling you not to post more, he's a fagget c:

>>3145870
Yeah i picked an hard angle to practice but I didnt live up to my expectations , its ok I did another study an Im back to being satisfied with my self :D .

>>3142577
Kill yourself. I'm going to keep reminding you until you do it.

>>3142046
Post work

>>3145536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH1xv3sw1e8

doodly page

>>3146201
Blog?

>>3144787
Here a WIP. I changed it a little
The colors are provisional and I still don't know what I'm going to do with the background. I know I have to draw more animals, but not much more.

>>3144789
cool, keep going

>>3145151
Vetyr ?

>>3146201
Very nice

First personal sketch after 2 weeks of art school.

We've done at least 15 hours worth of blind contours and it's wild how much it's improved my hand eye coordination. STILL A HELL OF A LONG WAY TO GO OF COURSE but that's what the next four years are for.

Also saw a crazy lookin guy on the subway yesterday and he turned out to be our nude model today so that was fuckin wild.

>>3146492
Fug, got a blog where I can follow everything you do in art school so I can git gud without going? Also what have you been doing blind contours of? Vases? Chairs? Hand? You seem to be in the art school that's legit since your drawings aren't bad.

>>3146492
Nice lil sketch, the pose kind of looks like she's floating or she's off balance. The characters right leg looks a little off too. Personally I think it will look a lot nicer if she is nice and balanced.

>>3146493
Ya it's one of the top 5 in the world for concept art. A lot of graduated end up going straight into the industry after graduation. Hell there's some that get in even before graduating. There's a guy in his second year who's gettin his tuition fees sponsored by Ubisoft rn iirc.

Right now we're doing a shit ton of blind contour, the Hawthorne method of painting, gestures, and point to point drawing.
Also a got composition, colour theory, and perspective classes on the side.

We've been doing full body blind contours in life drawing, and in principles of drawing we've done vases, logs, stuffed animals, some weird lookin brass horn thing, a cup. Lots of different stuff.

I don't have a blog right now but I should probably start one up.

>>3146496
Thanks!! Ya I can see that it's off balance now, thanks for pointing it out for me. It'd def look a lot better with those fixes.

>>3146500
>Ya it's one of the top 5 in the world for concept art. A lot of graduated end up going straight into the industry after graduation. Hell there's some that get in even before graduating.
Wow, you have such an amazing opportunity being able to interact with such top tier people and grow along side. Did you have a scholarship too to get in? Must've been drawing for a while and got really good grades throughout school?

>There's a guy in his second year who's gettin his tuition fees sponsored by Ubisoft rn iirc.
Holy cow, I wonder how he managed to land that kind of gig. He must hold a ton of potential. or something. I've never heard of that before.

>Right now we're doing a shit ton of blind contour, the Hawthorne method of painting, gestures, and point to point drawing.
I've heard of these but not the last one, point to point drawing? Sounds interesting though on how they build you up in the beginning.

>Also a got composition, colour theory, and perspective classes on the side.
So many at once, haha, what's your strengths and weaknesses? I hear despite how amazing the top art students are, they always have some weakness in an area.

>We've been doing full body blind contours in life drawing, and in principles of drawing we've done vases, logs, stuffed animals, some weird lookin brass horn thing, a cup. Lots of different stuff.
Thanks for being so specific! I guess it's just your typical life drawing class, but I didn't know they placed such a big focus on blind contours.

>I don't have a blog right now but I should probably start one up.
When you do make one, be sure to share it! Good luck on your future studies! I hope to be able to follow your journey and what kind of place you will be by the time you've graduated.

tiny ship

drone fix

https://youtu.be/7OXt8KGfwKM was thinking of making youtube videos. Maybe it'll help me make a habit of drawing. Sorry for shit resolution and bad lighting. The free video program only exported at 720. And sorry for the music if you don't like it.

>>3146512
>Did you have a scholarship too to get in? Must've been drawing for a while and got really good grades throughout school?
No scholarship no. Despite being so good at what it does the school doesn't bring in much money since they try to keep costs as low as they can and as a result only hand out scholarships to those who need the financial aid.
My grades were shit actually!! I failed my last year of highschool and just barely passed my second time around. Highschool made me so miserable that I had a god awful time getting work done. The school looks solely at your artwork though, thank god. The founder understands that highschool is straight bullshit LOLOL.

>I've heard of these but not the last one, point to point drawing?
Point to point drawing is just a really simple method of drawing from life accurately. It revolves around simplifying whatever you're drawing into points and then connecting them kinda like a constellation(??? idfk how to spell that and my phone's givin me no options here gg sorry). I can't explain this nearly as well as my instructor did but it's basically for simplifying and measuring.

>what's your strengths and weaknesses?
My gestures, posing, and expressions are GODAWFUL. As of right now I have NOOO IDEA how I'm supposed to put out this nice smooth looking gesture when I got the immediacy of 1 minute poses going on. My strong point is probably colour and value, sculpting with light, that kinda stuff. I'm miles ahead of where I'm supposed to be in the Hawthorne painting we're currently doing. Mostly because I work way too fast but I also don't have that hard of a time seeing the different values in the still life that's set up.

>I didn't know they placed such a big focus on blind contours.
Yep yep!! Right now they're trying to teach us to get our sense of sight and touch intermingled and then also getting our brain and hand to be able to coordinate well with that information; which involves doing hours and hours of blind contour.

>>3146525
blog?

fix w colour

Honestly didnt expect to be able to do studies like these in less than 3 weeks , value studies seem to be best route for beginners

>>3146260
>MUSLIMS ARE COOL AND RADICAL! HUR DUR!!

Fucking progressives, man.

>>3146260
are muslims allowed to show belly like that

>>3147074
>teapot calling the kettle black
NGMI

>>3147059
Looks good
Be careful about the soft and hard edges , try to blend some parts.

>>3147148
try to blend some parts with the Mix Brush*

>>3147150
yeah I seem to have a problem in my head with that tool.See I was going for more painterly style and whenever I use blending brush or even some super soft airbrush the result looks flat and artificial

scribbles i did at work last night

>>3146260
holy epitome of virtue signaling. You're fucking nauseating.

>>3146260
>when they invite you to battle but you serve them jihad

>>3147336
fuck this is pretty funny

>>3147186
I had the same issue and the only advice i can give you is looking at speedpaints made in ps or studies in general and see how they use the mix tool . I want a rough style but i realised i'm not that good yet in order to paint without the mix tool. When you get good , then you can give up certain things.

Fav page of gestures from today. Model made a lot of great poses!

>>3147411
from now on , try to use cleaner lines . While they look okey , they are really messy

>>3147239
more like these please . love it

>>3147336
perfect

>>3146201
blog?

Some lewd sketchy
I always have such a hard time just dedicating myself to one drawing
>>3146204
>>3147438
www.ahrensketch.tumblr.com
I haven't updated in a while though
>>3146480
Thanks dude

i'll post more as i do them

>>3147419
will do. i'll usually put them on my tumblr etc

Got bored with this one so instead of finishing it i smudged her a bit , finally found use for mixer brush i guess

does her expression come across well? im worried that the "tongue pressed against teeth" part isnt clear. the eyes dont feel right either, but i cant figure out why. i thought it might be because of the exaggerated proportions, but that doesnt seem to be it.

>>3147059
oh hey, you did a study of my study (arm on top). neat, but youd be better off using photoref if lifedrawing isnt an option, at least when youre just starting out. otherwise youre copying the mistakes artists make (like that skinfold where bicep meets forearm which i got really wrong.)

Trying charcoal from imagination, no sketching or refs.

>>3147856

>>3147858

>>3147439
this belongs in the tutorial thread

>>3147843
are you trying to make a caricature for MAD magazine?

>>3147843
how?

>>3147862
oof, the proportions are that bad? i was going for appealing exaggeration, not the grotesque humor vibe mad magazine gives off.

>>3147916
nani?

>>3147843
Hey mad props to you ! Your arm inspired me so I did leg from photo but then did arm to get a feeling for how you're rendering since leg didnt cut it for me . And the fold you made is actually what stuck out the most for me , I liked it. Also like how your contrast range is just right for smooth transition , I still jump from light to dark too boldly like here >>3147557

>>3145870
Thanks

>>3146439
Sorry. It is just me.. anon

>>3147336
/beg/ please

>>3147843
>only used 4 values yet can produce this amount of realism
What? How do I learn this?

>>3147843
? just blend

>>3148061
lots of blending. im structuring the values using the method in this >>3126354

>>3148059
the content is stupid but it does look appealing, definitely not beg tier

bump

>>3147843
>the eyes dont feel right either, but i cant figure out why
I think it would be natural to squint your eyes (maybe not as hard as in the photo here) with that mouth expression. Right now it looks like her upper eyelids are simply lowered a bit.
Not sure if that's the problem, just my 2 cents.

>>3146028

>>3148642
NANI ? Sank you master

working on this, trying to work from pure dark to light

>>3148878
Gotta colour these ones later.
i feel kinda satisfied on how the lineart came out.

im doing a fanart

>>3148953
Since when are there space marines in game of thrones?

>>3143555
Reminds me of battleborn

>>3148642
thanks for the tips , I started limiting my palette and it definitely removes the problems with constant value change , this skull under hard light already feels more "fleshy" and smoother than skin of the ogre study

>>3148439
thanks anon! i tried giving her more of a squint, and it looks like that may have been what was missing.

theres just so many mistakes i cant even be assed finishing this anymore

>>3149107
just flip it and use liquify tool

>>3149110
That's cheating though

>>3149107
Wait, I actually really enjoy the color scheme and how smooth it looks. Usually it would be bad for it to be this smooth, but I don't know why it looks pretty apealing with these colors.

should I finish it for you?

>>3149148
That'd be amazing go for it!

>>3149111
all successful artists do it though

>>3149111
no rules just tools faggot.

>>3149171
here you go. I tried fixing the most important things. I actually did the eyes, but it didn't save so I said fuck it.

here you go. I tried fixing the most important things. I actually did the eyes, but it didn't save so I said fuck it.

>>3149171
>>3149210
and the original size.

>>3148953
Everything is really cool but the helmet is throwing me off. He kinda looks like Garrus instead of a medieval pirate.

So many bad practices I need to break- in this case trying to get used to using colour while avoiding the smudge tool to over blend.

>>3149210
holy shit this is great you actually made her look human. i'll need to reference this next time i do a portrait, thanks a lot anon <3

Hey guys. I came here last year and looked for help and you genuinely helped me and kicked me in the butt. So I tried to improve and here I am again.

I'm just looking for ... Opinions or a direction, what to do next? What's the worst eyesore?

Sorry for the scrambled mess.

am i gonna make it?

>>3149272
How long have you been drawing? It looks good.

>>3149272
shit anatomy

pose lacks dynamics, looks stale and lifeless

>>3149272
Poor values and messy work, your phone's camera doesn't help. Keep at it though, I've seen worse.

>>3149280
being doing shitty doodles since childhood but started figure drawing this year

>>3147932

halfway done. Trying to get better with watercolors. Pretty meh. Dunno how to get large smooth areas that come up on hard, detailed edges. Paper still buckles a bit when wet even though I wet-stapled it to 1/4 in mdf.

>>3149342
I'm real into it but the black hair blobs could use a little more definition.

>>3149272
Draw from your arm more. Draw from direct observation ONLY and do it every day. You're doing fine, keep going.

>>3149241
You're using a very limited vocabulary of symbols over moderately developed fundamentals. "Sameface". Draw people+statues from life a lot more, use charcoal to focus on gradation and value shapes. don't use lines for a while.

>>3149107
>>3149210
Sweet mother of jesus. The difference putting them side to side.

>>3149377
The worst part is making the eyes black. 100% ruins it.

>>3149377
one looks asian and the other a disgusting white american woman, yuck.

[`-`]

I need help with the right cheek, can't get it right no matter how long i tried, can someone redline for me?

>>3149357
>Dunno how to get large smooth areas that come up on hard, detailed edges.
You either need to get better at wetting the canvas with water, paying close attention to the edges, or layer darker colors over lighter, when they're fully dry. If you want to try it, they sell liquid latex, which you can use to block off edges. Your sky looks like it dried while you were working on it - did you wet the entire sky, even the parts in the tower, and then do your wash? The way to do this is to soak the entire sky - anywhere blue is going to be, you want it wet, like shiy wet, and then start your washes - but when laying down the water, don't go all the way to the edges of the tower - when you start the wash, use your brush, like a small round, to push the wash to the straight edge, to define it.

You could also put a light wash of the blue where the tower is, and then lay the beige over that. A tower that high is going to reflect a little bit of blue the closer you get to the top. Like a 3-4% wash of blue behind the tower as an underpainting, if there are any pure white highlights preserve them. Let the blue completely dry, then do the other colors on top. I call it local color.

>Paper still buckles a bit when wet
You need heavier paper, like 300gsm (140lb).

Also, don't staple it. You need to stretch it. Staples just don't create the surface tension you get from craft taping it down and letting it dry completely - you get paper that's like a drum head and will not buckle.

One last thing - don't tape your edges like that. Paint past the edges of the frame, just put down pencil lines. If you matt it after, you can hide where you went past. This way, you're losing part of the painting when you matt it. You're also rising tearing the paper. That blue tape is for taping walls, not paper. You'll never get a clean line anyway, and the paint will build up at the edge, like it has on some spots on your painting.

I finally got a tablet yesterday and I've been exploring all the tools and functions; does anyone have some tips on starting out with digital art? Also I did this with GIMP but plan on getting photoshop soon

>>3149495
Whoops forgot to resize

Just came back from a couple months break of drawing. I thought I'd be shit but I'm just as if not better than before. Unfortunately, I don't have much time to draw anymore since I'm back in school but where there's a will, there's a way.

In other news, I'm thinking about getting a model for posing sometime soon because I suck ass at bodies and Kentaro Yabuki has some 3D model releasing in a few months in collaboration with SH Figuarts for like $60. Here's a link to it on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Figuarts-Yabuki-Kentaro-Action-Figure/dp/B071KWBV19.. I'm also gonna pick up this book to learn some nsfw poses: https://www.amazon.com/Sexual-Hibiki-Otsuki-x30BB-JAPANESE/dp/B01M09QX2O.. I think this is a good start to an nsfw artist journey so maybe you guys should look into those products too. If anybody has any other recommendations that'd be great as well ^^

>>3149514
>Yabuki releasing 3D models
This is interesting, I wonder why it's even listed under his name though. They sort of look like any other figure aside from the legs.

>>3149516
Yeah I don't know for sure but maybe they're trying to do some promotional stuff to get his name out there for whatever project he does next. I somewhat want him to return to to love ru but I'd understand if he's tired of that and if everyone else is tired of that too. I just hope that he takes a break and streams occasionally like redjuice because those are always interesting to watch. Anyways, there's a video they made yesterday showing how kentaro would use the figures: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWbP48yrh8E . I don't know if he actually uses these to draw but it'd make sense because his stuff always has such consistent proportions it's ridiculous. Either way, he's a anatomical genius so he can use models all he wants imo

tits study

Can I get some feedback on this?

>>3149570
You are drawing too small. Start big, no matter how ugly it is. I learnt the hard way.

>>3149494
You're describing almost exactly how I did it, except the dark blue wash, where I left out the tower. If I did dark blue near the tower,I feel like it would sacrifice the crispness & be impossible to lighten to the right value. Everything else was soaked though.

>You need heavier paper, like 300gsm (140lb).
thought this might be it, but I checked and it's 140lb.

What do I look for with craft tape? It's quite like a drum now, byt stapling is a huge pain in the ass, so if there's a tape solution I'd MUCH rather be doing that.

Thanks for the tip about the blue tape, but I've generally had really good results with it. I just have to be vigilant about wiping the edges.

>>3149357
Will look into that thank you. I hate sameface artists really don't wanna be one of those

>>3149692
>>3149494
Also, forgot to mention: the paper dries to a perfectly-flat drum head, it just buckles while wet. Unfortunately, that causes pigment to pool during vibrant washes.

here's an example of the taped edge. This was just a sketch so it's a little sloppy, but it usually comes out razor-sharp.

>>3149701

>>3149495
Hello there fellow beginner, I use photoshop but the principle is same for any program , start out with grayscale studies and limit your self to only 2 , or 1 brush , dont get lost in technicalities for now , Im a day shy of 3 weeks in my self but improving with limited tools is easier than getting lost in all the options for first few months I guess ,

>>3144498
thx here are scanned version

>>3149701
Do you tilt your paper when you paint?

>>3149387
Top kek this is the same guy that was complaining about the same thing, and not enough genetic diversity in white woman from art right? yet ran away when confronted.

Working on this right now.

>>3149747
Sometimes

>>3149219
Is it a bad thing he look a like Garrus?

>>3149855
no refernce ti Garrus can be bad , but the Deep Ones from GoT should have more fishy or even cthulish face , thats my take on them

>>3149210
tumblrd

>>3149860
This what i was going for, the greyjoy kraken basically wrapped around his head as a helmet. but i might have to make it more obvious.
His description:

"Victarion is a large and powerful man, with a bull's broad chest and a boy's flat stomach. His hair is flecked with grey.[3] He wears plate armor in combat, a helm in the shape of a kraken, and wields a cruel axe.[3][4]"

>>3141828

These were really fun to do even if it's not stuff I think is good enough to ever put my name to haha.

Full disclosure these are not traced but they're both off recreations of photos. With the second one I changed a bunch of shit around though because I was lazy.

>>3149869

I'm a dumb guy who forgot to even attach an image.

>>3149871
blog/discord/whatever? I wanna talk to you about something

>>3146260
eww

not my latest but i'd like some criticism, i really like this one but i know i can do it better

Another value study Im getting more comfortable with small palette and taming my midtone jumps


>>3149867

Didnt even saw that as helmet just thought its some kind of oily squid skin thats supposed to present a creepy face . maybe change a tone of squid a bit or make rest of helmets texture more rough sandy metal while you keep oily reflectiveness on the squid

>>3149918
cis white polar bear should check his privilege

>>3149918
Had to make a brown kid to pander and virtue signal, i see. You fucking blinking pigeon. Keep sucking up to the multicultopia.

>>3150121
>drawing characters any darker than pasty white is pandering
Chill the fuck out, mang

>>3150121
>making something marketable in order to support myself means I'm an unblinking pigeon

Post your work or gtfo. /ic/ is strictly meritocratic. Ideology has no place here.

making slow progress

touched up an old-ish study of mine

>>3149918
your hands are super hard to read and your anatomy is really flawed, but it looks ok at a glance for children.

I've been trying to draw with a pencil for years and it still feels awkward. This is going to sound stupid but is there any way I can get a similar feeling as painting with a pencil or should I just buy some paint? I'm not trying to achieve a certain effect, just prefer painting over drawing. I don't currently have access to a tablet.

Found a site that gives creature design prompts. Here are my red-spotted toad / python critters. Fun and silly times tonight

>>3149855
It makes me think of sci-fi not fantasy. I'm just sayin' there's gonna be people who won't see it how you intended.

doing value studies for the first time, really.
is it considered cheating to have line art layers for these?

>>3150847
These rule

>>3150915
Of course not. Can't have values without construction.

>>3142085
>>3142095


You always come up with shit excuses. Your ellipses and perspective are always fucked Brian, focus on getting that right for once.

out of 10?

>>3150944
No ballsack 3/10

It's pretty great desu. What did you use for it?

>>3150850
>>3149928
I'm hoping another support drawign will make it clear

>>3150944
Damn, how good is your imagination work?

well i'm fucking up.
how do i not? study color theory?

Have some bizarre figures, /ic/.

>>3151077

The lower shadows should get more purple-lish. I don't know why that is, but it's how they look in the pic.

>>3150944
I'm not reading the weight of his torso resting on his hips. He looks like he's joined at the hip. Like that's the only way he can sit because his bones are fused together. For how gestural it is, the actual anatomy seems very stiff. 4/10

>>3151077
make a structural drawing before you start painting. it'll be harder to fuck up.

Not my drawing, it's Lucas Graciano's demo from Watts Atelier online 3h figure course. Thought it was pretty shit for being from an instructor

>>3151003
Yeah put those 2 side by side and its very clear , good job

>>3151150
On what dimensions is he drawing , and is he using all 3hours to draw or is it like 1,5 drawing 1,5 talking

>>3151003
Wait is that Silvester Stalone ?

>>3151178
Thanks!
>>3151181
Yeah lol, wouldnt he be a great Victarion?

>>3151181
Well, he spent 2.75 hours on the drawing and is talking most of the time. Lucas is probably the weakest teacher of the three in drawing thought (out of him, Erik, and Jeff). It's too bad they chose to include this in the online course; it doesn't seem like they did any re-takes on anything, which is a shame because there are a few drawings that don't look good

>>3151150
Post your work

>>3151236
Missed the opportunity with not adding him in the show , imagine Silvester Stallone beating his wife to death , would be nice change of pace from all the rape scenes

A little motivational piece for you all

>>3151307
this!

>>3148989
I can see that, I think they'd look really good in a comic though.>>3143555

whoat

How often do you strike that note of perfect feeling while drawing , just doing that one peace for your self experimenting having fun, having that joyous felling . and I dont mean just liking to draw so it doesnt bother you to do studies , I mean really having fun while doing it

done

>>3151601
Ugh, its probably the same amount as when I was a kid but if you did it by ratio it certainly wouldn't be.
Like I'd only draw a few hours a week as a kid and it was always fun.
now I draw like a few hours a day and its only fun a few hours a week.
good brushwork.
>>3151588
is this a real dinosaur? nice job.

hey I just finished this

>>3151714
No, just a bizarre 6-limbed creature I did today

>>3151714
No, just a bizarre 6-limbed creature I did today

>>3146201
hi ahren! i have a question i want to ask you. how do you start your construction when you draw human figures? your sketches look so wobbly yet they always look so cool. i was just wondering if there's a technique/method to how you build your people. or you might have parkisons!

>>3150847
what site?

>>3150847
>Found a site
>doesnt post site
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>3149182

>>3152949