/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Working on that competition shit to motivate me/ fill my portfolio

from last thread, would appreciate advice on this photostudy esp how i could make the hair better

took way longer than i intended to draw this

>>3135466

oops resized.

>>3134795
any help with the mouth area?

Critique welcome.

Reposting from the last thread.

>>3134795
The OP pic is awesome, maybe too barroque, but still awesome.

photo study from reference thread

>>3135494
bueno...

My objective here was contour lines and contrast? What did I do well and wrong?

>>3135494
you're not thinking of the mouth as an arc, which is why it looks so flat/out of place. the lips are not flat as a line but arc towards the inside at the extremities. it's probably the most common mistake with mouths. Tried making a quick way to explain it in a visual way, it helped me a lot when I stopped thinking about it that way.

whenever you want to make a smile/groan just remember the way your teeth arc. Lips usually coil and stick around your teeth to a certain point. hope it helps.

>>3134795

>>3135652
How much of this is photographs

>>3135689
That's photobash so 90%

>>3135641
Very nice. I'm not the person you're replying to, but I'm glad that there are still people here that are so helpful.

>>3135689
>>3135700
Its a zbrush model actually. i am trying to spice it up with photos tho

>>3135652
creepycool/10

what are you going for with it? /3/ might be more helpful if its modelling crits you want

>>3135720
Thanks!!
I'm mainly looking for design/anatomy critique, creature design isn't my strong suit.

By the way, the first link under Figure Drawing Tool is dead.

blah

>>3135571
The drawing is nice. I think she has a very big nose and eyes, but I can't see the ref, so I'm just guessing.
I like the looseness, but use another brush to soften the edges rather than trying to do soft edges with this one, it doesn't work

>>3135809
Thanks for the tip , Im really new to digital drawing since my tablet cam only last week so I have no idea about that kind of tehnical stuff. Just downloaded brush preset from some youtuber who draws nice , any brush you would reccomend for smoothing ? Any more tips would be welcom too !

>>3135882
I personaly don't like to use a textured brush for the whole drawing. I usually use the flat round brush to draw and block colors and maybe some edges, and then you render with the soft round default brush and a textured brush.
If you still don't want to use the round brushes, at least changes it when rendering diferent materials

Quick study from the reference thread

not sure where I'm going with this but it's a hybrid bird/old man

First and only worthwhile thing I drew today

Did not feel motivated

>>3136052
i dig it

I tried.

I did to train the painting.
r8

I did this to train the shaded.

>>3135554
blog? interesting style and lights
>>3135652
cute!

Any tips for studying photobash?

>>3135807
Looks good at first sight imo, since it is kind of a playful style i guess its good, i am pretty sure you gave been asked before but why do you only do self portraits? I myself like to practice drawing people i consider attractive and beautiful

>>3136181
Brian already answered that and said he has no one else to draw from except himself.

>>3135396
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SYIPBS2F0k
pretty deec tut

>>3136182
But aren't photos of other people good enough? If he likes to draw himself then more power to him, i am not saying its wrong, just curious

She's around 60% done

I'm not sure what about this drawing I don't like, but something feels off. The colors? The hair? The skin? The eyes? I can't tell. I like how I did her body but something is 'off' and I need advice.

>>3136229
I'll tell you what I personally don't like about it and it's that the armpit areas look too muscular. Also the lines along the ribcage contribute to that a little. That's really my only gripe with it. Otherwise it looks really cute.

>>3136229
The biggest issue is that the face and head proportions are very wonky. Top of head is too big and asymmetrical, facial features aren't aligned properly.

>>3136256
i think he was trying to draw animu on purpose

I did this... thing

>>3136229

I actually like the face and hair the most.

Latissimus goes into the arm pit. hers continues as an unified form all the way to the shoulder.

You correctly show the left side of her body, but when it comes to her left arm it looks as if you were looking at it straight on, not showing the side plane of the arm.

>>3136227
why are your edges so damn messy?

>inb4 i start out rough then refine it

If something is worth doing, then it is worth doing right the first time. get your edges perfect with the first applications of colour. use the lasso tool

>>3136227
why are your edges so damn messy?

>inb4 i start out rough then refine it

If something is worth doing, then it is worth doing right the first time. Get your edges perfect with the first applications of colour. Use the lasso tool. Then you won't have to waste hours on 'clean up' because you didn't jump the gun.

>>3136229
the hot pink patches on her torso look like a sunburn to me, especially since they're a different colour to the blush on her face. eyes and hair are nice tho

>>3136186
muchas gracias anon

>>3136179
Yeahh, watch one of anthony eftekhari tutorials, he's a matte painter at blizzard. or learned squared maciej's character tutorial has alot of photobashing techniques explained in there as well.

>>3136210
????

https://youtu.be/dGq8thVrQ3Y

>>3136363
reported

Practice/concept art for the webcomic I'll never make

>>3135641
thanks senpai! very helpful

>>3135700
Retard

>>3136182
:(

>>3136191
>But aren't photos of other people good enough?
not for fine arts practice. If I wanted to be an illustrator I'd grind out photostudies everyday, but that's not really where I want to allocate my skills.

Like the other anon said, I don't have models. I used to go to coffee shops to draw people but I got kicked out of one cause someone complained and haven't tried again since. I can go to figure drawing classes but I don't like being the best artist in a room full of 60 year olds, and honestly doing self portraits and drawing my hands is just as good of practice.

Working from a mirror and drawing what's around me also has the added bonus of if I get tired I can just stop and do something else. If I'm at figure drawing and I've already done my one good drawing for that day, I'm kinda stuck there until the session ends. And then I end up just kinda screwing around and not drawing seriously because I don't have the energy for it.

As far as "don't I want to draw attractive people", that's mainly what I did at coffee shops. I drew a lot of attractive girls, and it was fun, and I've drawn a streamer who I'm friends with over 50 times probably. But I find I'm more experimental when I'm working on drawing myself. Sometimes when I have a model I feel pressure (especially if they're attractive) to make a good painting of them. If it's a portrait of me idgaf and I can make it as ugly or stupid as I want. That depends on the model obviously, I've had girls pose for paintings and encourage me to make as weird of a painting as possible, but that's not the norm in my experience.

>>3136323
I haven't drawn in nearly 2 years, so I forgot some crucial steps. Thanks for pointing that out though.

>>3136227
Face looks great. So many anons fall apart at the face. You've actually managed to get some likeness and exaggeration into your work, which is way harder with digital than traditional

>>3136370
I love him anon. I like the face a lot too

>>3136647
Really? Shit man thank you, 'preciate it

>>3136360
Nice. But don't get lazy on his torso

>>3136370
Please use some references for the clothing and specially that mask, it's a very nooby design, with zero construction.
Avoid placing the gun in that profile prespective, give it a little more depth, and also it's standing in an impossible way on the floor.
I see you have worked a lot on placing the shadow, but there's a lot of weird shadows and lights that make no sense. Try to think on the overall lightning on the figure rather than individually on every object.
Finally, unlike the other anon, I hate the head, it seems like a random shape with eyes and a two-lines mouth. I don't know if that line is a nostril or what. It's just confusing, and the lack of shadows doesn't help

>>3136403
Cool. Weird eyes, but I guess it's intentional, maybe...

>>3136179
>blog? interesting style and lights

Thank you, I'm glad you like it
https://www.instagram.com/jordi_milian/
I've been a bit busy this summer, but I'll start to post again in brief

learning to draw clothes.

>>3136073
Thanks m8

>>3136766
nice. why does it have that creepy 2hu not-bad-not-great vibe

>>3135709

I thought you painted it from scratch....

>>3136922
Maybe some other time xD

Are the glowing eyes too much?

>>3136912
>that creepy 2hu not-bad-not-great vibe
i have no idea what this means

my boy Kaiji.

>>3136766
>>3136912
>>3136956
I think anon means that it pops out and is kind of eerie because there's no one wearing the clothes and the background is blank. The rendering really makes it come out at you, hopefully one day a cute girl will wear these clothes.

is this sexy? i want to get aboard that hentai-foundry cash train.

also would anyone mind redlining and/or ripping this to shreds before i start coloring

>>3137032
face isn't all that appealing nor is the hair
everything under that is good but could be better

>>3136052
tiny baby hands

Anything to fix before ruining it with color?

>>3137032
The eye on right sags a bit

I'm making a Bloodborne fan comic, here's a coverish thing for Laurence

im trying

>>3137072
Do you even reflection? You just copy-pasted it. It doesn't work that way.
I have a tip, the prespective on the reflection is the same than on the object, so just imagine the reflection is standing on the object upside down.
Other than that, I like the composition, but try not to rely soo much on filters and chromathic aberation, you'll end up depending on it

>>3137091
Oh my, you're right I just flipped it, thank you for the reflection tip for some reason my brain didn't realize it worked that way.

The filters are because I hate how sterile digital art looks otherwise, but I do agree it's overdone.

>>3137061
OK, I'm not liking where this is going. How do I make this more interesting?
Is the face too simple? I thought it was kind of funny, but maybe it doesn't fit with everything else.
Probably it's a problem with the colors
Help /ic/

>tfw you find out Eminem was a better artist than you

>>3137224
i like it

>>3137239
I saw that too. His handwriting definitely shows just how skilled he is with his hands.

I made this for a contest to make the album art for a split for some local bands. How does it look? Anything glaring that could be improved?

>>3137355
some lines are sloppy, i'd imagine if its going to be actual album art you'd want it to be very clean.

>>3136563
I see, thanks for explaining all of that to a random anon like me. You got kicked out of a coffee shop for drawing people around? Fk, i had a slight interest in doing this but now it's gone, i couldn't deal with the idea of me getting kicked out of a establishment, is sitting in a park drawing people doing stuff, like yoga, have the same consequences tho?

>>3137375
Brian talked about the events in a podcast, if I recall correctly. It's actually not such a big problem as Brian makes it sound like, he's just chickening out because he got told to stop once.

>>3137355
It took me a little while to notice that the black-greyish thing is an elephant, but maybe that's just me being blind so take this with a grain of salt

>>3137370
They look fine to me but again, maybe i am just blind

>>3137370
Good point, I will try to clean it up more.

>>3137380
Any ideas to make the elephant read better as an elephant?

>>3137378
Well, i can't blame him if this was the case, i too would chicken out after the first time i get kicked, but that's just me being a pessimist and a faggot, i don't deal too well with public embarassment

>>3137388
Maybe make it switch places with the stingray, the most remarkable thing about an elephant would be his trunk (not sure if this is the name, had to use a translator) so if you make them switch sides it would be easier to notice it, but make sure that if you do this dont let the same happen to the stingray, this is just my opinion tho, hope it helps

>>3137375
link? I'm curious. That sounds like really weird and dickish behavior to kick out a paying customer because he was drawing people. Unless Brian came in with a 30 foot easel and a satchel of brushes + paint I don't understand why. I've seen watercolor artists like James Gurney paint in restaurants and coffee shops with portable kits and no one ever complains.

>>3137423
I dont really understand what you mean with link. Now that you put it that way it would indeed depend on how hard he was staring at the people he was drawing, and i dont mean it as a offense or anything but brian isn't the most attractive guy there is so maybe it was just some girl who got creeped out because she thought he was staring too much at her, a plus would be that he didn't buy a thing in the coffee shop making this another reason why he could be kicked out but all of what i just said is hipothetically

>>3137423
https://soundcloud.com/user-444323605/same-old-shit-podcast-episode-3#t=4:54

>>3137423
>>3137429
>>3137436
keep in mind i look like a pedophile, as well as being a man who is asking women if I can draw them. perception has a lot to do with what is deemed acceptable

>>3137440
the dream is having enough money and fame that people stop thinking its normal to root against me and ostracize me. pretty sure all the kids in my high school thought i was gonna shoot up the place so whatever. nothing new to me.

>>3137436
The answer is actually at 15:40 but it helps to listen to Brian talk about the experience before it.

>>3137447
im less dramatic about it lately. i just get easily upset when women pile on the assumptions and negativity surrounding men onto me, when I myself enjoy literally none of the male "benefits" otherwise. It's not like I've slept with anyone I've drawn out in public.

>>3137423
I meant link to the podcast sorry if I was unclear. Just listened to it and it seemed like he was being fairly respectful. He went up and asked politely if he could draw them and if they said no he left them alone. Kinda sucks that one little complaint was enough to turn the owner against him since he was doing it for a year.
>>3137436
Thank you!
>>3137440
True, true. You do look like che guevara's inbred cousin but still. You sound like an autistic neckbeard on here however you sound like a normal dude when I actually listened to you talk. I'm assuming it was just some really uptight "let me talk to the manager" crazy person who ruined it for you. Based off your description of the events, most people didn't seem to mind at all and you were respectful.

Also gg on the podcast, it was a decent listen.

>>3137429
I meant link to the podcast sorry if I was unclear. Just listened to it and it seemed like he was being fairly respectful. He went up and asked politely if he could draw them and if they said no he left them alone. Kinda sucks that one little complaint was enough to turn the owner against him since he was doing it for a year.
>>3137436
Thank you!
>>3137440
True, true. You do look like che guevara's inbred cousin but still. You sound like an autistic neckbeard on here however you sound like a normal dude when I actually listened to you talk. I'm assuming it was just some really uptight "let me talk to the manager" crazy person who ruined it for you. Based off your description of the events, most people didn't seem to mind at all and you were respectful.

Also gg on the podcast, it was a decent listen.

>>3137464
>You sound like an autistic neckbeard on here however you sound like a normal dude when I actually listened to you talk.
im incredibly humble if you've ever met me. got dealt some bad cards in life, and i take a lot of that frustration out on the internet and my art, but otherwise I'm even-tempered and try to stay positive.

>>3137472
Yeah I feel you. I sperg out all the time on here, wouldn't wanna be associated with what I post at all.

Howd i do

>>3137491
>>3137493
terrible, just give up

>>3137491
/beg/

Looking for some feedback on her.
Also would you fap to this?

>>3137523
Yes now blog?

haha thats the only really steamy pic i got anon. experimenting with more sexy art

>>3137525
haha thats the only really steamy pic i got anon. experimenting with more sexy art

>>3137082
Beautiful lines. Brian you goofie degenerate, whats your end goal?
Yo what ever happened to the brazilian girl who was a traditional oils god?

>>3137508
not me

>>3137553
NIce clothing

>>3137553
cute

>>3137553
dope

>>3137553
fingers looks a little odd and boneless. I made a ref, perhaps it helps.

>>3136712
> implying I didn't use references
> being this condescending
> ''nooby''
> criticizes shadows for being inconsistent but doesn't explain where or how nor does he explain how to improve it other than with some vague college class advice. If you're lazy don't bother criticizing at all
> criticizes the head for not having shadows
> being this blind

The head works fine, you just don't like it personally which is ok, just don't pass that off as legit objective critique. The way the gun stands works fine too, saw it on the reference I used.
Overall, what a joke of a critique. The gun perspective/depth part is the only decent advice, the rest made me laugh

>>3137298
That's helpful

>>3137224
maybe add some rust and some arrows

>>3137224
The armor looks incredibly heavy, bulky, and stiff. I'd imagine him buckle under the weight.

I think it would be fun if the armor had more movable parts that rattle along with his bones.

Other than that it's drawn well. Design is the main flaw.

>>3137553
hey that's cute

>>3137636
>someone took the time to critique your work
>you shit all over it
if you don't agree with the advice just shut up and don't reply, this is the kind of post that derails threads.

>>3137636
Getting this offended from someone trying to help you
I was talking about that mask when I said nooby, and it really deserves worse.
When I said the shadows were inconsistent, basically I refered to the half bottom of the figure being in shadow, which makes no sense. There was some other small details, that you kind of could see in the quick paintover
And don't get this attached to the head. I dindn't want to change the design of the head, and I tried to fix it with some rendering and shit, but still is flat and unconsistent. It will probably cause you many problems if your plan is to make a comic with it, which implies drawing that head in many perspectives.
And something else I realised when paintovering, DON'T paint shadows with black. Use a cooler or a warmer color, but not black.
The paintover is a bit messy and you were using a more cellshaded kind of painting, but you get the idea.
Also, the overall colors have been changed, that a problem with my monitor or something. Ignore that

>>3137693
I got ''offended'' because the ''please use some references'' part really got on my nerves, first of all because I did use them, and secondly because it came off as condescending to me. I really, REALLY hate being treated with sufficiency. That and the way you worded your other tips made it seem to me like you were one of those anons who give ''critique'' without actually knowing what the fuck they're talking about, but your paintover clearly proves otherwise. I'm genuinely surprised you insist on critiquing me and to such lengths too. I apologize for my reaction, sorry.

Moving onto your current critique, it's useful. The reason why I put the half bottom in shadow was because I thought the arms above would obscure what was below. I thought it made sense since the light source is placed directly above. Don't worry about the head, I drew that type in different angles without problems, trust me. I tried painting the shadows not black many months ago but it didn't work out. I'll try it again when I'm done with this mini series of costumes this drawing is part of.
Thank you for your patience

>>3137657
draw him with armor pants around his ankles because he's a skelington so his pants won't stay on

>>3136712
>Nice. But don't get lazy on his torso
?

>>3137734

shush. Not that anon but I use refs and still get "lol use refs!!" all the time. It's no biggie. You're taking other people's opinions too seriously and personally. Just do better next time.

>>3137757
reduce the size of your head, and fix the perspective on the right cheekbone.

>>3137734
>Someone critiques your work
>Get pissy
>They show that they can draw better than you
>Oh sorry you're right my bad

shit head

>>3134795
Have a poorly drawn moo

>>3137808
>Someone critiques your work
>Get pissy
>They show that they can draw better than you
>Oh sorry you're right my bad
That's how it should work. Assert your dominance on /ic/ through your work.

>>3134795
I have made a redraw! >>3137765

WIP

>>3135641
Also not the anon you are replying too but as someone who finds mouths really complicated, this is very helpful. Saved, thanks anon!

>>3136396
Good job anon!

>>3136766
While it is great that you are teaching yourself to draw Lolita fashion, I highly recommend staying away from Ita-lolita. This should help if you are interested, http://fyeahlolita.blogspot.co.nz/2009/10/how-to-avoid-being-ita.html

I've been drawing for two months straight -
every day spent drawing at least something -
and here's some stuff I drew for using as reference; I've been dedicating whole pages to different body parts (still need one for feet, but I keep crapping it up) so I have something to look at if I'm stuck.
Usually these references (and a lot of my sketches) come from shows or comics that I follow; I literally pause the show or zoom in on whatever body part I like the look of and try to draw it as accurately as I can. Sometimes I feel like I'm not learning how to draw 'the right way', though. People are telling me that a body is made up of circles, squares and triangles but I struggle to wrap my head around it; I look less at the shapes and more at the lines and what parts they form; does that make sense?
(also sorry for the image quality, I swear I'll get a better picture-taker)

>>3137940
go back to /cgl/ anon. I'm not learning to draw lolita fashion, it's just a random dress study to practice clothing in general.

>>3137224
(s)he's very cute, i like the contrast between the limbs and the armour. almost like this was a fat person before death
if it's supposed to be comedic, maybe exaggerate some of the parts size and shape, like the glove and boots
the belt could have more personality, maybe scary/goofy engravings depending on what his backstory is
also something about the way the foot hits the ground looks off technically.

>>3137734
did you just critique a critique
y

>>3137957
I think you just have poor taste anon.

I'm not exactly sure if this is the right thread to ask, but I'm working on the lineart for a drawing, but the face just seems really off to me. I can tell that the proportions are fucked (I think), but I'm not exactly sure what to change and how to fix it?? I've already asked my art teacher what they think and they said that it's fine, but I can tell that it's not

>>3137955
I don't consider myself qualified to be giving advice but I would suggest drawing real hands and feet. Don't reference a drawing for that. Once it makes sense to you, you can stylize it.
I always avoided drawing hands and feet and I really regret it now that I'm taking drawing more seriously

>>3137983
post in beginner thread
get a better art teacher

>>3137983
This is my first time doing this so I hope it makes sense.
I really like your drawing overall. It just seems the eye is too high compared to where the mouth is. I tried to move it to where I think it would look better

yoh critses

>>3138054
guys what you think of my Rick and Morty

>>3137916
might help to draw cross sections to make sure things don't clip into each other and perserve the form of the snake. Also, the upper arm is a little too long (should reach to the bottom of the ribcage) and the wrist and hand are too small.

>>3136766
really nice man
Any resources or just refs?

>>3136587
Thanks, man! Means a lot since faces are the hardest for me.
>>3136227
Made a little more progress in pic

>>3138057
nice.
would become trending on rebbit

Wew isn't this lewd?

>>3137032
not bad

>>3138054
size to 1000px and post the right way up

>>3136950

>>3138179
>why am i turned on by the fish's scales
where did you get your brushes?

>>3137239
I was looking for that sketch he did of Moby a few years back. Maybe it was at the VMA awards?

>pic unrelated

>>3138185
I'm not too sure i just googled something like skin texture lol. this is the one

>>3138179
Curious, could you paint at this level freehand?

of course not

>>3138195
might be able to get close but nah not this level.

why do you feel the need to lie on an anonymous siberian chinchilla fur braiding discussion forum?

>>3138206
Why do you feel the need to be honest?

I dont need to lie to make myself feel better.

>>3137239
>tracing
What am I doing with my life?

>>3138087
just google maid cosplay

my comic

>>3138054

>>3137553
season !!!

>>3137916
Snake in the bottom left corner attracts all attention, make it darker.

>>3138228
How can you tell it was traced? I was pretty surprised by his skill and that makes more sense.

>>3137239
the pretentious signature though
>M. Mathers

oil portrait
critique pls

>>3138374
>>3138079
Thanks for the help! Made some changes

Been drawing a bunch of lewds lately and make a quick pic of Deku's mom, Inko from Hero Academia. Think she looks alright for just a couple hours of work.

its pretty furry-ish but put that aside. i put a nice amount of time into it and feedback would be cool! there are probably some mistakes i havent noticed and i want to draw similar things in the future.

Somebody draw this bitch as pure skeledon.

Ok so how do you stop the faggotry inside from telling you that you are only doing a sketch of something instead of focusing your shit to do something as best as possible and accept your huge faggotry as a part of life >? like so what do you say to your self?

>>3138179
Blog?, I like your work I wanna get into Zbrush but it looks pretty daunting so I've just sort of left it there and worked on my 2D painting skills any advice on where I should start or courses I should take?

Concepting a creature for my next artwork

>>3138453
why are you afraid of colors anon , they wont bite , pic very much related

CAUTION!!
The following image contains spooky content that might be unsuitable for sensible people
Do NOT open in case of heart disease or autism

>>3139177
i like the contrast of white on black better

drawing a plate, need to find some angles again but I'm fairly happy with it.

>>3139270
Cool, do you make comics?

>>3139190
looks pretty accurate. I wonder how one can get that dark thougj.

>>3139166
Cool design, keep us updated.

>>3137491
>>3137493

good

Don't listen to these cunts...

>>3137504
>>3137508

>>3139178

I think that front feet is bending. Is that intentional?

>>3139270
Loomis

>>3139275
bland. give her some character. also textures/patterns

>>3139275
I like how clean it looks.

>>3139297
I might experiment with some intresting textures just for fun tomorrow.

>>3139301
Glad you like that! :)

bojack sketch

A quick sketch trying to be really loose

>>3139338
I know you're going for a dimly lit scene but you don't have enough defined shapes to make sense of what's happening, or even where we are in this painting.

>>3139343
i wasn't actually meaning it to be like this. i made a painting, i hated it and threw on a bunch of dark filters in frustration. idk why i even posted it

>>3139278
Thanks anon, some more progress for you.
I think it's pretty much the design I wanted now.
Maybe I will integrate subtle patterns in the black-brown transition.

>>3139337

>>3139425

Nice! Personally I don't like the face. It doesn't match the Intricate design. Too beastly?

>>3139453
Hm, yeah. I will probably give it another shot. It's hard to make the face of a lemur not goofy, I'll do some studies tomorrow and see how I make this work

>>3139446
ok im done with this, any crits appreciated

>>3139539
>>3139539
I appreciate you defining some hard edges, but you put it where it doesn't really matter that much, like the hair, the neckline, and for most of the suit.
there's some important details that are blurred out on the face or just lacks proper definition.

>>3139190
looks accurate. just fix the center part, shadows and folds and all

careful with the rendering part. that's where you want to be the most careful otherwise you'd end up pushing or pulling forms where they shouldn't be

>>3138754
what's his character supposed to be? too vain for my liking

8x10 still life of an apple on gold fabric

>>3139539
I know it is a stylized sketch but I would have gone with a thinner neck, put some detail on the clothes, also I would imagine a horse holding a cigarette in a different way since they do have some range of movement in their "lips"

I really like the hatching it makes the forms pop

>>3139178
That front foot feels really off, fix it and it'll look great.

Turns out the client really liked the raised eyebrows

>>3139622
I like them too. Really like the hair thingy too. Really like the designs in general. What were the influences?

Really doing the lines

>>3139622
This looks a million times better than the last time I saw it (before redline). Looks more proportional & attractive, while maintaining the sense of fantasy.
Good job.

Nose can have a little minor adjustments, like being moved slightly to the right

>>3139622
Have you ever tried working with thicker lines? all your work has such a chicken scratchy quality to it.

Drawing a fish design, gonna do the female now.

Anyway I can make it follow the design constraints better?

>>3139711

>>3139711
How do I get as good as you?

>>3139711
Neat, anon. I love the jaw and how you drew the wireframing for it, do real animals jaws work like that?

>>3139711
This is fucking good. 10/10 anon.

>>3139715
I guess drawing would be the simple answer, but in truth there are way better artists on /ic/ than me so I'm not the best to give advice.

If it helps you I started researching and contacting ex FZD students, I started putting together all the information I could on their curriculum. There's not much as I've only started compiling about 2 days ago but I'm hoping to get every single brief and homework they give at FZD for each week and each term so I can do my own homemade version of FZD (ridiculous hours included). I'm gonna be doing online courses to fill in for the seminars they'd give to students that way I can still get feedback on my work as that's what's mostly important to improve.

Download this, have a look at the Mock FZD document, I still gotta re-upload the students FZD folder as I lost the link to the original a while back but until then the document will have to do (ignore my edits). Once I finish it all I'll post it to /ic/ it'll be the same fundamentals content and briefs as FZD just without the cost.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6nikbycfe0cgpxg/FZD%20Mock%20Term%2001.docx?dl=0

>>3139718
Yeah snakes have weird jaws I found out it's something called jaw disarticulation, I thought it was cool so I tried implementing. Though now looking at it it feels kinda generic because I've seen it been done. I might try implement a spring loaded spear jaw kinda like the goblin shark, that might be cool for the female.

>>3139631
Thanks, the guy basically like those works of mine that are kind of fantasy oriented, so i tried/still trying my best with the description he gave me

>>3139657
Thanks and yes there were many subpar details before :/
I also will review the nose it is still not very convincing, like I'm not seeing/depicting its planes well

>>3139668
I have but it makes things more plain at least in my case, I feel in this way I have more control about form while keeping things delicate but it is a shame it isn't conveying that for you, I will keep at it though

>>3139733
>Once I finish it all I'll post it to /ic/ it'll be the same fundamentals content and briefs as FZD just without the cost.
Different anon here. I'd be very interested in this and I'm sure other anons would be as well.

>>3139733
sometime ago somebody posted a google drive with a lot of FZD shit did you get that?

>>3139867
Possibly, was it iris hopp's work?

>>3139275

>>3139275
Made some slight adjustments

>>3139622
For fuck's sake man, fix your godamn noses. It was already pointed out in the last thread. she has a flat nose bridge, a down syndrome symptom, fix it.

>>3139622
For fuck's sake man, fix your godamn noses. It was already pointed out in the last thread. she has a flat nose bridge, a down syndrome symptom, fix it, she looks retarded.

>>3139930
head's way too big, eye placement wonky

>>3139711
this reminds me of one of those sharks with the dislocating jaws. anyone know what gif i'm talking about?

>>3139270
make zines and sell them at craft fairs, i'm srs, you have that comntemporary style down
not sure how we can crit this, we don't know what you're trying to achieve here

>>3139196
fix lines first

>>3138832
read the damn op and resize your shit for one

main thing i notice is that it's not particularly clear what's going on. the lights framing the character are good, but they cover up parts of the character including the hand which makes the picture hard to read. get a ref next time, that's not a particularly natural way of holding a comb or coming your hair. get a brush and comb in the mirror, you'll see what i mean

the objects on the table are all out of scale, why is the cigarette case bigger than the underwear

anatomy is wrong but you knew that

hairgel logo doesn't look like a real hairgel logo look at shop ones for ref

>>3139635
face and har is anime while hands are realistic and lined. neck is off. get ref

>>3139940
it doesn't look like you know what you're talking about.

>>3139196
>>3139992
nah, it's fine for a painting.

>>3140007
doesn't look like you know what you think you know about it either.

>>3139999
thanks for the feedback i do appreciate it. it is true i didnt use a reference, i was kind of just going forward with it as it came to mind and i agree with a lot of this.
thank you :)

>>3139711
if its so big you might wanne change the eyes, when they are bigger its assumed the animal is smaller. tiny animals usually have the biggest eyes compared to their body. This huge whale for example has very small eyes

>>3140085
Just had a search around looking at fish close to the size of my design, your are most definitely correct, I'll make some adjustment.

If anything it should make it look a little more threatening if it works out, thanks anon.

>>3139099
I got into maya first before i did any Zbrush. it feels like a natural first step doing basic poly modelling first, it gives you an understanding how 3d meshes work and maybe not as hard to learn. Other wise "Concepting in ZBrush Instructor - Alex Figini" from learned squared covers all the basics of zbrush. really good

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1215490/30 closest thing i got to a blog

Is this the right time to move on from a study?

>>3139733
Look up spearing mantis shrimp, that's another dope hunting mechanism.
And thanks for the info, though I don't think FZD curriculum is that special - their actual secret is discipline, pushing to put in the hours and get out of the comfort zone every week. You have to turn into a chink when you sit down to draw and for that I wish you luck.

>>3139889
Aye, that's the one.

>>3140133
fix her face dog

>>3139711
More fishies, this time a female.

>>3140245
shit, my bad.

WIP

>>3140256
Make sure to draw more attention to the sea creature, I feel like the lighting is too distracting at the moment.

Also digging all the ocean related painting and designs in this thread, keep it up guys it's wonderful.

>>3140245
if it's a female it must have titties and anime eyes /s

looks good, maybe do a pic of them side by side for size comparison? plus a diver or something else for scale.
i can't see any of the colour projection or mating ability stuff mentioned on the list you posted
also what do the babies look like, are they cute or cutehorrible

Studying value with this one.

>>3140328

>>3140245
I tried a few proportion adjustments to make the female look bigger without the need to look at the written scale. You decide whether it looks better or not.
Also if it's for a project where it will interact with humans, a human silhouette for scale is not a bad idea.

>>3140364
what's your ref? the face looks unsatisfying. esp shadow around her nostril. Hair is muddy. Add some more definition.
Dark spots around her upper arm stick out as bad.

>>3140256
looks like a matte painting. cool. looks like a background to something, meaning the actual action (characters, story) is still missing.

almost complete

>>3140376
Thanks for the feedback. I'm still practicing my brush work with references, I kinda have some problems minimizing my strokes though.

>>3140245
M-muh dick

>>3140328
>>3140421
where are the highlights in her hair?

the shadow on her neck is not nearly that dark.

her lower waterline (lower eyelashes) are not that dark.

her left eye is not flat.

the space where her lips meet is darker. the shadow under her armpit is not that dark. she has defining shadows around her lips that you didn't capture.

she doesn't have a shadow on her back.

Most of the value on the clothes looks pretty good though, keep it up.

>>3140364
the fuck did you do to her arm

>>3140397
this is probably just my personal taste but i feel like a more realistic eye would look better. considering the proportions of the body, and how well rendered the forms are, the current super stylized all black eye seems a little out of place, . only other critique is the arms look a tad too short.

>>3140397
You are polishing a turd friendo. Practice forms, you almost got it on the cat but you go back to flat symbol drawing when it comes to the details.

>>3140245
something about the way its back fin connects to the spine feels like an afterthought

Made this today to study painting with a flat brush, and some interesting light sources.

>>3140364
This one was not mine, probably someone sent as a correction I guess.

>>3140435
Thanks a lot for the tips. I'll make some adjusts later, especially in her face, but I won't stick a lot with this drawing, since it might chain me a bit.

>>3140457
Noted

>>3140467
what details are you referring to?

study of Dave Rapozas work , refernce is low resolution but its still great picture so I chose to do it

>>3140133
>their actual secret is discipline, pushing to put in the hours and get out of the comfort zone every week. You have to turn into a chink when you sit down to draw and for that I wish you luck.
Not that anon, but any tips on this?

>>3140268
Thanks:))
>>3140388
its actually a 3d model with alot of paintover and photos. I'm not to sure what to do story wise tho mmh.. i was mainly trying to show of the envirnment.

Don't know what the fuck this is, but I think I enjoyed making it.

dont think im gonna finish this... think its a lost cause. at least the composition came out good

>>3134795
>http://sites.google.com/site/4chanic/ http://sites.google.com/site/artandwhatnot/
dead

>>3140813
1) It's amazing how much of a painting's value structure is defined by that early underpainting
2) Painting on canvases you stretched yourself means you have so much more versatility in your values, and makes it all the more apparent when your midtones are lackluster

It's so important to get those midtones IN THE MIDDLE! It's so much better to make a painting too dark than it is to make it too light.

>>3140725
That's goddamn amazing

>>3140702
finnaly finished

>>3139592
Well he IS a demon so he'd be a bit cocky I guess

just studies but kinda fun I think

>>3140980
>>3140725
dope

So how is it? Any critique welcome.

>>3141063
Bin it and never let anyone see it, holy shit that's embarassing

working with thinner lines

This whole picture is a bit of an after thought. The concept is that there's this witch fighting with a big mean dragon demon thing and she is walking out of the forest into the open plains and as she raises her arm she creates a category bazillion sized hurricane that blows over trees and stuff.

Sorry it's so dark, the values are bad, but I"m curious what you guys think compositionally

>>3141063
/beg/

Trying out different ways to represent light and shadow.

>>3141245

>>3141121
Maybe make she face him? Also a more powerfull pose might help to identify who is casting the hurricane there.

>>3141247
I love this, any more?

>>3140397
Finished, moving on to the next.

Feel free to critique ^-^

Doing studies in one brush is so liberating , not worrying about all the texture options

>>3141427
Tight. I don't know how you manage to have the patience to do so much studies and push them this far.

>>3141441
Maybe you are mixing me with someone I only got my tabled week and a half ago but yes I do put in work , pic related was my first study I did when I just got the tablet , so this is improvement made in less than 2 weeks

>>3141427
>>3141441
>smudgy, non-descript edges
>sloppy blobs of value
>quick, squiggly & lazy details
>plain grey background

>"I don't know how you manage to have the patience to do so much studies and push them this far."
>push them this far
>far

>>3141450
Someone else probably has a similar technique and I mixed up the two.
>>3141451
What's your point tiny dick?

>>3141451
Relax bro its a value study not a Louvre piece

>>3141063
Barron you don't have to paint. Your dad's the president.

Posted on other thread but no crit, the ref is some pic I took of a friend with different lightings to practice painting different lighting sources.

Comint nigas.. i gots a question of faith.
do you believe god wants you to be an artist.
Yes why
no Why not

>>3141461
>What's your point tiny dick?
My point is that you and seemingly others on /ic/ don't know what it means to take something to push something "far". To also suggest that that a study like that takes patience is just stupid.

I'll also have you know that my penis size is perfectly average for a white male in the US.

>>3141467
>Relax bro
/ic/ is for arguing and whining about things that are not a big deal. I will not relax.

Done with the concepts, ready to start the artwork

unfortunately I had to push highlights to almost pure white, but any crits on this other than value structure?

>>3141634
Very solid i doubt you will get crits. No one here can draw. Plus you gad refs. You should have posted both.

>>3141441
Cringe

>>3141636
"God" thinks im an abomination why should i care for him?

I'm not ashamed of the autism and furfaggotry. I am ashamed of the anatomy and the rendering of form. Help would be really appreciated. How do you manage tones? I know I started detailing too early, but I was having trouble visualizing.

>>3141744

>>3141269
That's the only ent, but on my tumblr there are some other pieces with a similar feel to them

http://menesland.tumblr.com

>>3141745
stop being weird

>>3141765
No, this is the future.

>>3141634
bruh their ears are all different shapes and sizes and placed differently and your edges need work they all have the same eye brows

Some shrooms for you, /ic/.

Digest as you please.

this one was kind of pain in the ass , Its way easier to do a study of a photo than it is of master painting

>>3141634
love the values , bottom left is best , work on hair rendering I guess ?

>>3141731

Good idea, should probably include ref next time, but the goal is not copying the ref, but to understand how light works on the face, which is why i didnt include it.

>>3141774

Haha yeah I was so lazy to paint the ears, maybe I will paint them just for the hell of it, it is interesting how light illuminates through the ear since its so thin. As for the eyebrows, not sure what you meant by that, its the same person after all, maybe you mean paint it more hairy like?

>>3141820

thanks man! I do want to render the hair, but man i don't even know how to start with hair lol, its like a complete different ball game from painting skin.

>>3141050

dude those are awesome, loving the bottom left where you had thicker lines to balance the detail on fair right of his face.

honestly dont know what to crit on the other than try and hatch in direction of form instead of just one direction, you going to level up fast bro keep it up!