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PLEASE READ ME !
Mission: The purpose of this thread is to allow the community to learn together and provide accountability for interested Anons. We will go through lessons and books together to provide us with some structure. Through these experiences we will find how we compare to our peers; which will hopefully drive us to improve and add credibility to critiques. Artists of all levels can join. For those that are not interested, you don't have to join.

>Update: Ok, so our last thread seemed fairly popular. We do have a some people who seemed interested which is good, so I'll continue making these threads.

>Hopefully you all finished the required readings and lesson1 of DABox. If you didn't finish, that's okay, just post your late work in this thread and we'll critique it.

Curriculum: Due before next Tuesday.
>Draw A Box: Lesson 2
- Make sure to do all the parts IN ORDER.
Self Critique for DABox: http://drawabox.com/lesson/2/selfcritique
>Ernest Norling perspective made easy
- Read parts 7 to 12 (Read through part 12).
>Gnomon: Scott Robertson
http://list.youku.com/albumlist/show/id_26583094.html?sf=20100

BEFORE YOU POST YOUR WORK!: If you have more than 5 pages I recommend you upload to Imgur. You can still post your FIRST FIVE pages on here, but post the rest on Imgur... or don't, it's your choice.

>After Posting Your Work Remember To Critique Others Work. Pay It Forward. Thank you very much!

I hope this takes off and hopefully this will help you. Thank you very much Anons!

LastThread >>3082938

>> No.3091988

The focal point should be the exposed innards. Why else show the section and it includes the scale texture.

>> No.3091993
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>>3091979
dont waste your time.

>> No.3092127

>>3091979
I'm gonna post soon after work.

>> No.3092269
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you should keep an archive with all the threads and due dates for homework, that way people can start over and follow through the "program".

pic related is motivation

>> No.3092290

>ctrl+f "community study" thread on the catalog
>7 results
What the fuck is going on

>> No.3092308

>>3092290
seems to prove the point that the mods only show up when some cunt gets his feelings hurt and don't give two fucks about this board.

>> No.3092312

>>3092290
A bunch of people liked my idea and made spin of threads. I believe the first one was the community study anatomy thread.

>> No.3092313

>>3092312
By "first" I mean first spin of thread.

>> No.3092315

>>3092269
How do I archive a thread?

>> No.3092460

>>3092315
Go to warosu.org and search for the post. Make a google docs or something with all of the links in it.

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I'll stand with this anon, although there is probably a better method to this than using 4chan as the platform. You should use something else, some simple forum or something. Maybe a discord channel and only use this to promote it. I'll join it though.

>> No.3092513

DRAW A BOX = ISIS

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>>3091979
Here you go.

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>>3093104

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>>3093106

>> No.3093113

>>3093102
>>3093104
>>3093105
>>3093106
>>3093107

So far it's NGMI, but keep it up, you might make it with some luck and guidance.

>> No.3093190

>>3093113
fuck off you abject loser

>> No.3093193

Is there any art study book with detailed step by step pictures of how to do something and without a fucking essay? I hate loomis figure drawing. I'm here to draw, not to read shit.

>> No.3093529

>>3093193
Try Hamptons books, less reading. Additionally you could try to do Proko, only problem is Proko is all over the place but you could use his videos to kinda see some of the steps that might be tricky in Hampton's book.

>> No.3093562

>>3093193
Then draw, don't read shit.

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>>3093800

>> No.3093805

>>3093562
Mindlessly grinding ain't right. How can you study without using your brain?

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>> No.3094366

>>3093193
just skim it so you get the gist of it, copy what's in there, then make your own

>> No.3094555

>>3094033
what is this?

>> No.3095153

>>3092489
Not sure if people would want a discord.

>> No.3095172

>>3094555
is it so bad you can't tell what it is?

>> No.3095302

>>3095172
No it's fine. But how does it relate to post? What DABox lesson is this from? Just curious.

>> No.3096849

>>3095302
Something like that is covered in lesson 14 via thumbnail painting.

>> No.3097007

>>3095153
I'd be down anon

>> No.3097094

>>3091979
Thank you OP for this thread.

>> No.3098472

Bumpin. How many people actually do this? I've been doing it on my own and not posting.

>> No.3098508
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>>3098472
I just got to lesson 2 after drawing like 40 pages of lines and shitty boxes
Still crap but I like the arrow exercises they are pretty fun
I'd post more here but it's hard since I got banned and have to use my phone for scanning and converting all the files and disconnect from my wifi every 5 seconds
Heres a of some arrows. Still not good but I'm starting to understand it more

>> No.3098511

>>3093102
Good shit m8
What kind of pen are you using?

>> No.3098970

>>3098472
Please post. If you don't post then the thread will be empty, and I'll have to assume no one is interested.

My work is the first 7 images. I haven't gotten any critique. If you would like to critique it please do.

>> No.3098989

>>3098508
it'f fine.

>> No.3098995

>>3094033
Your construction seems nice.

>> No.3099820
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3099820

Hello how are y'all doing today?
Been doing the organic forms with contour lines part for a bit today. Tried out some weird shapes but I figured it'd be better to get the simple shapes down pat first.
Still not as good as I'd like but it's fun so that's ok.

>> No.3101322

I've been following this topic for a little while and've really been enjoying the work posted.
So what this guy said-
>>3097094
thanks very much for the setup, op.

I've completed 2.5 pages so far, but found this at a pretty bad time, since I'll be out of town and unavailable for a week and a half, but here's hoping the topic'll stay alive till I'm back and can drop off the first assignments and collect the next. Stay well, guys.

>> No.3101836

>>3098511
I'm using a random ballpoint pen I found lying around my house.

It's a Pentel R.S.V.P BK90 (Fine). https://www.walmart.com/ip/RSVP-Ballpoint-Pen-0-7mm-Fine-Line-Black-Ink-2-Pk/19412039?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1150&adid=22222222227015958762&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=42966081032&wl4=pla-81457523312&wl5=9016895&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=112549851&wl11=online&wl12=19412039&wl13=&veh=sem

>> No.3101996

>>3101836
Nice I think I have one of these
I like the blue in your sketches I'll have to buy some blue pens next time

>> No.3102261

>>3091979
Gonna use this for dicks, thanks op

>> No.3104009

I did the 250 boxes and cylinders challenge. Is it okay if I posted it here?

>> No.3104088

>>3104009
Please go ahead
I want to do the box challenge after I finish with lesson 2 so it'll be nice to see how someone else did it

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>>3104088
Nice. I will go ahead and show them.

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The numbering might be hard to understand at first.

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>>3104331
>>3104332
>>3104333
Good shit.

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I did one dissection
Shits tough and my hands are too shaky for some reason
But it's fun. I'll post more when I get back from work
Here's two of the things I tried to copy for the textures.

>> No.3104558

>>3104522
Thanks.

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Hey guys, since this is a study thread I was wondering what the best way is to study values and form. Do you guys know any books/videos about these subjects?

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Here are my boxes. They are shit, I clearly did not know what a cone of vision is until about box 150.

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>> No.3105553

>>3104583
Proko has some vids on shading, you might be able to find more on "New Master Academy". Scott Robertson has a book on Rendering. Thats all I know...

>> No.3105561

>>3105553
Thank you for the help. I struggle a lot with values and form.

>> No.3105583

>>3104331
>>3104332
>>3104333
>>3104731
>>3104732
>>3104735
>>3104739


Are you fucking serious. No wonder you guys "grind" for years and never improve.

Protip: you have to get out of your comfort zone to learn anything. Drawing hundreds of cubes is an absolute and total waste of time.

>> No.3105600

>>3105583
Excuse me sir this is a Christian board so no swearing please.
But seriously it's just an exercise. No one here is just drawing boxes for years and expecting to draw people perfectly

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>>3105583

When I was drawing these I was out of my comfort zone. I hated drawing every single one of those cylinders. The after around 150 I started to like drawing boxes. The exercise did help me to understand perspective more and what the human eye can actually see.

>> No.3105903

>>3104731
>>3104732
>>3104735
>>3104739
Congrats. Must of taken a long time. It all looks good.

>> No.3105940

>>3105837
looks great

>> No.3105961

>>3105837
do you use any kind of digital stabilizer? those lines look clean af

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>>3105961
Nope, no stabilizer, I grind my lines until they became good.

Followed this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1lleIBzn3A

Grinding does work. I did the same for the circles I made with the cylinders, they are all free hand, made in clip studio paint with no stabilizer.

>> No.3105999

Anyway, is anyone doing any homework ? This is what the thread is for in the first place. So we can become better..

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>>3105999
I'm doing the homework. Albeit pretty slowly. Work is kicking my ass right now and I'm pretty tired when I get home.
Did a couple more dissections. These are pretty fun to do.

>> No.3107843

>>3107518
Chicken scratch.
<-- If you're shading use contour lines. Your crosshatching makes your forms look flat.

I suggest you stop and go do lesson 1. Do all the exercises for lesson 1.

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>>3107846
One of the more idiotic 'infographics' I have seen in a while.

>> No.3107917

>>3107843
Where is this?
I did lesson one and it's just circles and boxes no mention of shading or anything

>> No.3109034

>>3107917
It's in Lesson 2 PART 1: ORGANIC FORMS AND CONTOUR LINES.

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>>3105997
what do you think of my forms

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My attempt at arrows. Could have been better. Did 2 pages and merged them into one.

>> No.3109747

>>3109236
The shadows are a step in the right direction.Try using a smaller size brush next time and look into crosshatching.

>> No.3109838

>>3109746
Damn this is good
I'm gonna stop with lesson 2 and just grind lines and circles again

>> No.3109844

>>3109746
Are arrows helping you? I'm not really sure how to apply them.

>> No.3110547

>>3109746
Fucking sexiest arrows I've ever seen Anon. Gaahaaahh.

>> No.3111000

Im so mad at myself. I stopped mid lesson 2 because I saw the shape subtracting exercises. told myself I'd take a few days break and that few days turned into two weeks

>> No.3111043

anyone with michael hampton book Figure Drawing: Design and Invention? poorfag here.

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>>3109746
they're delicious anon

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>>3109844
I literally only just tried drawing them and the only thing that comes to mind as application is hair movement, maybe a scarf in the wind. From what I see when you hear arrow most people think line arrow, What I was thinking was more along the lines of the ribbons in ribbon dancing for some reason.

>>3109838
>>3110547
>>3111082

Thanks. I do try my best and I will get good even if it kills me. I still think they need work. If you see any areas where I can improve feel free to point it out. Gonna do the blobs exercise now.

>> No.3111295

>>3111000
Hahaha, that happened to me too anon. Just try to get back in the groove by drawing some circles then slowly get back to where you were, that's what I did.

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Alright, so I did lesson 2 organic forms with contour lines 2 pages. One with contour lines and the other with contour curves. Didn't do contour ellipses because I just finished drawing a shit ton of ellipses for cylinders. The next one I am going to attempt is dissection I want to see how It will turn out for me.

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>>3104532
your texture is to even, its the same everywhere which makes it boring
look at the op, in the focal point the scales are darker and more plentiful and the further it goes the lighter they become

also pic related, theres lots of hair on the edges and it becomes less in the middle

>> No.3111883

>>3111043
Ask on the book thread not here. You'll get more responses there.