/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

we can be the bumble beeginners. buzz buzz lol

>>3091001
buzz buzz lol

critique appreciated

>>3091017
The figure on the top looks like a man with tits. Did you draw tits on a man or a mans body for a a women, or was the ref an overweight man with tits?

>>3091025
no

>>3091001
>>3091006
buzz buzz lol

I never really learned how to draw, like reading drawing books or watching tutorials, I just kind of picked it up along the way when I was trying to pass time. This worked fine for me since drawing was only a hobby and I would draw once in blue moon.
But now I want to get a bit more serious and actually hone my skill.
Please give me some critique and tell me where I should start. Thanks in advance.

>>3091035
Right, forgot to mention, but I feel like I'm shading a bit too strong and the contrast is off.

>>3091007
what's up with the references?

buzz buzz lol

Why is reading loomis so hard
should I just copy all the drawings in his book I don't understand anything he's writing

>>3091041
good. now paint it.

buzz buzz lol

>>3091053
yeah you should be doing the drills, by which i mean just drawing everything that is not words.

i dont get why people stress over the writing in a how2draw book. i find most of them too flowery and pseudosciency anyways.

gonna try and shape a skull out of this form, lets see how it goes

>>3091053
You're just not ready to learn.

>>3091063
This type of coloring is all I am capable of.

>>3091092
is it photoshop? the waterpainting sorta vibe is quite comfy

>>3091092
very good, very good. now to challenge you, id like for you to make dramatic colors and lighting.

>>3091102
buzz buzz lol (i like it)

Do you guys ever feel like participating in drawthreads but dont have your own 'meme' or 'fun' style?

i just... drew in pencil. and did some paint studies. im not sure how to participate. do i just learn anime faces and let that carry me through? What do drawfags want?

>>3090997
Posting some refs, because someone has to.

>>3091109
thanks! i used this reference

>>3091111

>>3091113

>>3091116

>>3090997
getting back to drawing after a 3 week break

>>3091110
ik what you mean, but honestly, most people appreciate any sort of drawing you do. it's not like /ic/

>>3091075
So after one hour of drawing I get this abomination. I think I'm overstepping my boundaries right now.
Wish I knew how to draw teeth. kms.

>>3091129
that's not bad. the eyes are a bit dissimilar (try mirroring the image)
i'd rather focus on one thing at a time. like you're trying to get painting and drawing right at the same time.
i like the style you're going after tho

>>3091118
tried this one. im beginning to think just using a palomino for everything is inflexible

Hole in knowledge

>>3091127
imagine how that smells lol

>>3091127
god damn, this has to be photoshoped right?

>>3091131
Thanks. Appreciate the sincerity

I know y'all get rock solid to loomis, so how should I go about breaking loomis down into excercises?

>>3091111
that ass's impossible

How to practice form?

What exactly is the big difference with drawing from life and drawing from photos?

>>3091174
Just draw with your eyes and not with your dick.

>>3091172
Great question that I would also like an answer to

>>3091178
lol solid advice actually. thanks

>>3091097
procreate on an iPad pro
>>3091098
uff next time

>>3091172
>>3091181
Same.

>>3090997
Re posting

I'm still struggling to go back to traditional after a year of digital

Thoughts?

just started with Loomis, i think i understand him so far, any tips? how many times should i repeat the exercise, is the same if i use a tablet instead of paper?

>>3091195
did u water mark it because u thought someone might steal it?

>>3090998

Why is drawbox controversial? It seems like a good resource to do if you're just starting out.

>>3091227
Is the paper brand

>>3091176
Drawing from life has more control/variables. You can change position just by moving, you can adjust the lighting, and you get infinitely more detail. Some of the more subtle things, like light on skin aren't translated to film/digital, either. You also get the whole figure, were a lot of times, you're only getting part of the figure. You can also, in some situations, have the model alter the pose to be more pleasing, or into a better pose. Also, most reference people use here is photography, which has different standards/goals in terms of lighting and contrasts, which makes it hard to see the form.

>>3091195
Why are you drawing on pages from a planner/notebook? You shouldn't be drawing on lined paper. Blank paper is available as close as the nearest copy machine, and is dead cheap. Hell, they sell blank white paper in reams at my grocery store, in the section with the pens and pencils.

>>3091227
it's on the paper, idiot.

>>3091227
embarrassing

>>3091228
probably cause just grinding lines and boxes like a retard for months can be excruciatingly boring and it doesn't teach you to draw what you see, which personally I believe to be the most basic and fundamental skill of any artist

it's good but shouldn't be the only thing for a beginner.. if I had done only that the past few months I wouldn't be able to do ANY sort of figure or face or study or drawing from imagination, I'd just know how to do boxes, which I also know now..

>>3091195
Yo can you show me one artist you like who mixes pen and pencil? I know none. Is there are style in specific are you going for? I like the poses but I just hate the medium. Full ink or full pencil would look way better, and I'm not even gonna ask why the fuck you use lined paper.

>>3091228
The author is not very skilled himself, and there are some pretty bad examples there, especially with ellipses. The illustration to the first lesson used to be wrong, but I checked now, it's been changed, now it looks better. There also was a very bad drawing of a camera in "everyday objects", now it's been changed for a barrel, which, I must admit, gets the perspective quite right. Circles in perspective can be a very difficult thing to draw 100% correctly, and frankly, it's not that important, but still. And there's still this ridiculous tank there.

Posted this in the last thread, rough sketches before I ink, feeling better about it, the anon in the last thread told me to sketch over it, I think I improved the form, wouldn't mind a second pair of eyes on it tho

>>3091268
Do you draw with a mouse?

>>3091249
>>3091249
I like using pencil for shading and more obscure tones.

I like pen to sharpen the librart and make it stick out in a stylistic way.

I want to do something in the fashion of California crisis (pic)

If u have tips on how to do that I'm open to feedback

>>3091272
Nah, I just have shaky hands

drew some seacats

rip me a new one

>>3091159

You stretched her face and made her look somewhere else.

>>3091273
Pretty sure you can do that with charcoal of various hardness.

>>3091159
>>3091291
lol what the heck, hold in shift while resizing to maintain your aspect ratio bro.

>>3091291
yeah. muh style

>>3091298
it happens. i lay my sketchbook flat on my table and look at it like that. a lot of my drawings come out smushed

>>3091294
Or pencil and ink.

I think my biggest flaw are my ink strokes and my messy drawing.

Feel what I should do is go trough a pencil rendering book and some pen and ink one

Thanks for the advice anomalous

>>3091119
one more unfinished Leyendecker study, calling it a day

>>3091041
His head is a bit too big for his body, expression anon.


>>3091092
Colouring also looks a bit funky and too white in areas.

tried to draw american hero don frye

How do I study shading? What should I read?

>>3091273
eh, I'm a beginner, I was talking from taste, not expertise

the biggest difference I see between that and yours, is that California Crisis looks like very clean line art with very specific different tones of shades, like a black, grey and white comic book, while you don't filly use line art, you just kinda sketch it with pencil and then add a couple of ink lines on top..

maybe take the line-art approach.. sketch.. erase all pencil marks to the point where they are almost invisible.. ink the lines, then with charcoal maybe add the shadows, you're not gonna achieve those greys with pencil alone, it's gonna look scratchy, unless you spend hours blending it, but that's just a waste of time

another option is to get like 2-3 grey markers.. it's what the pic you posted looks like really

I deserve all bad things coming to me, god fucking damn it.

>>3091382
it's very beginnery indeed, but there are actually some good bits in there, the legs, her left leg in particular, the pose reads quite well. so don't be too discouraged.

>>3091386
What pisses me off is that I have done better drawings like a month+ ago and I've been at this for like 5 months.

Mostly the shading turns to shit if I don't spend hours and hours blending, while I see various begs here who can just simplify the shadows with some scratches and they look fine.. it frustrates me that the only shading I am capable of is smudging and blending for long periods of time. This drawing I actually wanted to cross-hatch, but it turned out so bad I just put shade over it and it became too messy to be able to smudge and fix, it's why it pissed me off so much, the initial drawing looked okay, also the face infuriates me. But thanks for your words I'll keep trying.

>>3091404
Before you move on from your initial sketch/construction try putting in really light lines around the areas with the most light and shadow. I don't remember what its called but putting indicators like that will help with the placement of the darkest values which will when you move past your sketch you already have some kind of idea how you want to shade it.

The people that frustrate don't just immediately slap down values that end up looking right, they spend the time looking at the figure and understanding the values before they put them down.

Also quit working with a white background. look at some loomis figure drawings

How do I know I nailed the proportions?

I can't... ever know. I CANT EVER KNOW. I JUST CANt............AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.... hahahahahaha... what is this farce... ahahahahahahahahahaHE EHEHEHEHE OHOHOHOHOHOHOH UHH UH UH UUHH UH UH UH.....
...URRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH IT HURTS IT HURTS IT HURTS IT HURTS IT HURTS FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>hair turns bright red
>stomach juts forward
>cigarette appears in my mouth
YOU DID THIS
YOU MADE ME DO THIS
*SMACK*
YOU FUCKING IDIOT
*SMACK*
PROPORTIONS IT DOESNT EVEN BEGIN
*SMACK*
TO CUT IT
*SMACK SMACK SMACK SMACK SMACK*
HAHAHAHHAHAA EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
*disintegrates into a pile of graphite dust*

>>3091419
Are posts like this reportable yet?

>>3091422
God I hope so

>drawings hardly ever look wonky when i mirror it

I'm.... getting stronger...

>>3091411
so by not working on white background, do you mean adding a soft layer of charcoal on everything, then erase for highlights? or add grey around the drawing?

I've seen and done plenty of figure drawing but I can't manage to apply it to more finished drawings.. my figures always are a bit fucked on proportions, or I just take too long to the point where I'm just copying what I see.. any tips for that? well, my figures in general just suck, idk how to "capture the pose", seen so many videos and stuff.. dunno, even construction with boxes seems easier..

>>3091284
>mace
my nigga

>>3091172
>>3091181
>>3091194
Read what he says, attempt to apply it yourself

This wouldn't sound so mystic if you took a minute to actually read it. If he tells you how his mannikins work then draw them yourself, if he tells you about how to use a plane to foreshorten a figure then attempt to do it yourself, if he tells you to draw your own figures then draw your own figures, come on guys, there's no secret to it

The exercises are literally "look at the page's drawings, draw them as well as your own versions of them"

Thoughts?
I messed up the fingers and I think the cloths creases look wrong.
I think I need to just use pencils when I do the finer details and creases for now on.
Also how is the shading? I'm trying to make it look like he's coming out of the shadows and I wonder if I got that across.

>>3091434
God damn it Why do I keep getting those white lines across the hair?
It looks fine on paper but when put through the scanner I keep seeing these ugly white lines across the hair its pissing me off.

>>3091434
I'm glad you're posting here now, looking forward to seeing more of your stuff as its made

>>3091439
Thank you.
Deviant art is an echo chamber so I never get criticism there.
I want to improve as an artist so I have to know how to improve.

>>3091434
face has zero form. looks like it was drawn on a balloon

>>3091443
How do you think I could fix that?
Just keep practising drawing real faces?
Or anything else?

>>3091129

study skulls

Not an expert but I did an over paint. This is what one week of skull studies does. 5 sketches of skulls and one attempt of fully rendered realistic skull per day. It's not even hardcore like most people here.

Study and analyze light/form/planes/values

>>3091434
Does anyone know what's going on here?
On paper the hair looks looks fine.
But for some reason on the scanner it has like white lines all over it like its faded.
Its annoying the crap out of me does anyone know how to fix this?
And yes I have drawn over it many times now and it still comes out faded on the scanner.

>>3091455
not that anon but that's inspiring. thanks

Please destroy any pride I have in this

How would I go about doing the butt/hips area of this? It's supposed to be someone about to nock another arrow into a bow if it helps.

It should be kinda big as well, reference;
https://68.media.tumblr.com/e0f28849287477e8d9b1e0d0ae7f5820/tumblr_o1eyy9ZjNd1s3ma4qo1_500.jpg

how big should i be drawing? how thick should my brush be?

R8 my lineart and strokes pls

>>3091268
For better or for worst its finished

>>3091572
The guy with the stick needs much longer legs. Work on proportions.

>>3091577
Part of me wants to chalk the long arm up to "muh style" like in Hellsing, but I know you're right

>>3091118

>>3091569
>blurry pic
>didn't resize
good job

>>3091569
>>3091583
My bad

Feedback on line art and strokes appreciated

I'm reducing my linework a lot but still struggle to apply what I've learned drawing from observation, I've done it for so long I don't know what the fuck I'm doing when I draw from imagination at all.

>just want to draw comfy bara husbandos
>inb4 loomis

heres the first draft, I'm losing interest because I know the composition isnt interesting

I always notice a lot of people in beginner threads tend to draw directly from observation; "studies" they're usually called here.

I would avoid that as a beginner, there's a way to use references but its not by direct observational drawing when you have very little knowledge. In the beginning they take a long time and more often then not we simply draw what we see in a flat way without having to think of space or form. It wont make you truly any better except at copying whats in front of you. That's why so many "trained" artists and teachers can only draw observationally and not at all from imagination. They only know how to copy what's in front of them. You would think looking at something alot would let you draw it better but infact you might be shocked at how little that helps. Consider that we've been looking at our hands in front of our faces our entire lives yet hands are among the hardest things to draw. Only by breaking it down to simple forms do people really learn to draw hands.

Instead you need to learn how to intuitively "feel" the forms in space. learn to draw basic forms from any angle. If your into the figure then learn basic proportions and then construct little figures with basic forms like circles, squares or even sticks. Never do it perfectly from the front or side since that'll flatten it and try instead to have then standing in space, make it look like its standing in 3d.

You'll learn to "see in 3d" and you'll start to intuitively feel the forms going through that space. Once you get a good feel for doing this you can start learning anatomy from someone who breaks it down into basic forms like vilppu and only when your deep into anatomy should you be using photographs or direct reference, mostly to double check your work and confirm your drawings are making sense, not for copying.

I fucked up everything.
Also, how do people render so smoothly? using the smudge tool makes things look so blurry.

>>3091007

How am I doing, no point for me on doing these exercises daily If I'm not correcting any mistakes I'm doing.

>>3091618
fuck you man.

is the forearm lengh okay?
I can't find the right measure \:

>>3091618
Your tracing is pretty solid. Keep up the good work.

>>3091631
So I did mess up, and Im still just copying the outline

>>3091628
also I drew this red anatomy arm over the painting to try to figure it out but it seems ok to me

>>3091118
pls send help. I have no idea what I'm doing.

Why do you guys always tell me to draw bigger????

How am I suppose to see what Im drawing if its so big?

How do I tell if it looks right or wrong when its so big?

>>3091601
I've completely hated "studies" in the way you're describing them here and its the reason why I've given up art so much in the past. for the past two months or so I've been going for an approach more like what you're talking about here and have been feeling like I'm finally making some progress on figure drawings which I'm happy about. The problem is, I have an incredible amount of trouble applying any of this logic when drawing faces; they look just as fucked as they did on day 1 for me. Any tips?

Was going for something disney-ish C+C welcome

Is proko a good site to learn to draw?.Also I ve seen some stuff about a kangaroo and people making fun of him, what s that about.He seems like a decent artist

Is there any hope for me?

>>3091709

>>3091651
Honestly, faces are just really tough.

Inventing faces from imagination is a really good test of how good you truly are at seeing and solving problems in 3d. You have to imagine squareness, forms turning away, depressions in the face, the wrapping of the eyelids together in a way that makes sense, having to imagine features sloping while still lining up, etc etc. Not to mention we're so good at identifying faces that even slight variation of proportions can turn everything to derpyface.

Avoid doing the face from the front when your practicing, it doesn't take any spacial thinking. and don't get discouraged if you're not internalizing any of the anatomy. Your meant to keep going back to it, no one gets it all in even a few goes.

I recently saw a video on drawing faces from various angles by the youtuber sinix. His method was simple and seemed like a really clever way to wrap your head around it, i'd give that a look.

>>3091662
He largely draws from observation and the kangaroo thing was him trying to draw from imagination mindlessly with no reference. He just cant do it.

His videos are very helpful though. Honestly almost all of it is just repackaged vilppu but the visuals in his videos can be extremely helpful and vilppus videos can be long and dry. If you dont mind his extremely annoying jokes and demeanor, he's a great resource.

>>3091720
does anyone ever actually have nips pierced vertically?

>>3091631
Why do you think it's traced? Those look like pretty good gestures.

>>3091721
i had a gf who did once, thought it was hot

>>3091649
People just say shit arbitrarily on here sometimes. Just draw whatever size you want.

Drawing smaller has the advantage of getting a whole read of whatever your drawing at a glance. When you draw larger it can be easier to get lost in specific parts of it and fuck up proportions or have something going in a difference perspective or something.

Be very critical of when people tell you to do shit on here, alot of advice is bad or pointless and you can learn bad habits just as easily as good ones so only do something if it agrees with your common sense and your goals in art.

>>3091722
Im not him but they're clearly gestures from michael hamptons book so he probably assumed they're direct copies.

I dont know if they're copies but you gain very little from directly copying others gestures.

>>3091715
I definitely will, thanks for talking about something other than to grind loomis or git gud etc

>>3091628
use big brushes to block in instead of this scratchy rendering you have going on

>>3091729
that's all well and good to say, but for a beginner it might be a bit hard to understand what you mean, perhaps you could post an example, or a paintover for him

>>3091654
the body you've got the right idea but the facial proportions just aren't cute

>>3091726
Yeah there not copied there my own shitty gestures, not sure if I should take as a compliment that someone assumed I copied. I will say that the Hampton books are helping me understand the concept for than the Vilpu books.

>>3091755
Then they're not bad at all.

I'd try for more poses with spread legs so you have to imagine them standing on a plane more, those are good practice and be wary of how much you exaggerate the spinal curve. Its ok to exaggerate it in gesture, good even, but just keep in mind when it goes too far. The spine isn't nearly as flexible as people think and its a common beginner mistake to exaggerate that too much in finished drawings.

>>3091720
Move on to stylization thread...

>>3091732
>>3091729
>>3091639

>>3091530
Interesting design choice on making the pelvis longer than the rib cage at top right
Bottom right feels copied, try roughly sketching in the spine, pelvis and rib cage and see if it makes sense

>>3091546
Start by drawing the spine, alternatively check out Loomis for a figure in a similar angle, like his female mannikin page

Hello,ive just started out,does anybody have tips on hatching or maybe rendering this cube please.How can i get rid of the chicken scratch feeling and made ir smoother? This just give me a fucking seizure yesterday.Thank you for your time and patience

>>3091810
if its a flat plane then draw straight lines.

ze creatif prosess

>>3091172
keep reading until you get to the skeletons
draw the skeletons in basic positions

hard-critique my book dany pls.

i only have a sketchbook ipad app & my finger so i can't learn proper layers or anything, sorry.

>>3091829

i like it but its kinda flat
not boobage but like wrap around the form ya dig

>>3091829
Absolutely fucking wasted talent on an ipad app.
>not getting a wacom
Goddamn it anon.

How can I find models

Is /beg/ the most active thread because no one ever actually improves?

>>3090997
How do I do eyes?

I can sketch them, but I can't paint them. The top two are mine, the bottom two are kind of what I wanted to achieve.

>>3091448
Loomis.

Man, you have good tools and creativity. But if you add more weapons to your arsenal, your art will be able to be more unsettling

Godspeed

>>3091854
I'd say eyes are the very last of your problems.

>>3091854
that's cus you're symbol drawing.

eyes don't have an outline

>>3091845
I have like $900 to my name there's no way I'm buying a computer n a wacom RIP

>>3091833
Thanks, i tried to make the darks darker but i think i'm scared about putting different colours onto skin

>>3091863
What are some other problems you'd like to point out?

>>3091865
The digital one on top doesn't really have defined outlines like the sketch, but the sketch still looks better though?

>>3091869
Dude build a computer yourself. My original build costed $475 (granted it wasn't very good overall), that plus some upgrades should do it.

>>3091869
Try taking commissions.

so how shit is my dark mall

>>3091871
>sketch look better

nope.

>>3091875
I can't exactly afford art classes to get to that level where people are willing to pay for drawings, but I'll work hard to get a secondhand computer this year maybe :)

>>3091889
Improve a bit on the ipad app and try taking commissions. I think you could.

>>3091895
I'll try my best anon

>>3091899
There is no try there is only WILL. You can download cracked iOS apps from appcake (https://www.iphonecake.com/).).

You need to work on drawing noses, shading underneath hair and shading skin (body not face) which is hard as a fuck with fingers, but you've done enough of a good job that you should be able to fix that too with just your fingers.

>>3091901
Okay, thank you for the link and the help! I will practice it and post an update in a month

>>3091429
doesn't have to be charcoal, just try putting in values around your figure. It makes it feel more like the belong in the space if the values around them help to describe their form. especially around areas where there is a highlight it will be made brighter if its not against a white background.

>>3091739

Messed up all the proportions. Gotta measure more next time. Oh well.

My first try on pixelart, what should I change?

>>3091946
About half of the pixels there.

>>3091946
your hobby

>>3091946
That doesn't look like pixel art, that looks like regular drawing but done with 1px tool. Go read about what pixel art actually is.

>>3091946
>>pixel art
>blur
>all those unsorted pixels
>literally just fucking drawn in ms paint
look up how to pixel art, you disgusting nigger
>inb4 m-merely baiting!!

>>3092045
Not baiting,I'm using the old version of asesprite and I've been looking at how to do pixelart but it hasn't really worked for me.
Could you give me some advice? Or a link to a good pixelart guide for beginners

>>3091780
Oh, I see
I actually like that clumpy look that small brush strokes leave, but I'll practice the way you described. I feel like I should be able to do it, even if I prefer the clumpy look

also: can someone help me to do waterfalls?
when I was oil painting it was pretty easy, you know

just put a white waterfall shape than took a fan brush, load some light blue paint and stroke lightly horizontally and vertically to make the waterfalls, than used a large bulky brush to mess up the end and make the splash (the same way you make clouds)

but how can I do that digitally?

This is why I draw

>>3092058
big picture, sorry!!
here a small one

>>3092059
dude, what the hell I love memes now

Guess i can put this here as well.
Behold.

>>3092057
1. Download Paint DOT net
2. Understand how the program works
3. Use it to draw pixel art

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For fuck sake
I would link you a couple sites but 4chan is being a nigger right now so you got to do your own research

>>3091601
Dude..are you me ?

>>3091884
Cloths look mostly good but the face is pretty off.

>>3092101
this is a lie. there is nothing good about this

>>3092101
>>3092101
this is a lie. there is nothing good about it

How I'm supossed to add feet?

>>3091773
Thanks anon, I'll work on that, I guess I curved the lumbar too much .

>>3091530
Pls respond ;___;

>>3091780
nice seeing this regularly. one thing (if anyone cares at all about beginner mindset): i was trying to hatch in the values with a tiny brush. do not do that. it's suffering.

>>3092155
>>3091780
here's something i made a little more recently.

time in between the two: roughly 6 months

idk i find it interesting. its not really improvement tho, ya? just basic common sense shit you pick up.

>>3092157
I think it's much better. Got a lot more detail to it
Wish I was as good as you, hopefully I'll get there one day

>>3092148
What kind of response do you want? What kind of pride do you have? Those are complete garbage, like what the fuck is even going on there? Have you got even the slightest idea of how a human body works? Let's examine them all one by one. The first one, what the FUCK is going on with that rib cage? Not only is it curved, it has no semblance of 3d whatsoever. That deltoid, are you kidding me? It just wraps around the whole freaking arm, lol. I won't even say anything about the chest, let's assume it's like that because of the rib cage, although, honestly, there's much more there. The second one, you already fucking got a critique on that pelvis, what the fuck do you even want now? You want me to write something about that mess of lines that you call an arm, that's shorter than the torso? Becaue there's literally nothing else there to talk about, you didn't draw fucking anything. If you'll excuse me, I won't continue, becaue the other two are even worse.

>>3091530
looks like you still don't quite understand the torso, particularly the ribcage. none of your poses had ribcages, also the boobs are very unreal

otherwise it's a nive study, pay attention to the breasts, ribcages, pelvises and necks and you should be fine

>>3092157
That's very nice. Have you tried full rendering?

>>3092163
nice study* sorry

>>3092162
ignore the toxic shitposter. just keep getting better.

>>3092164
a couple times, from movies. it stressed me out immensely, i need to try again.

>>3092161
thanks anon. i know you will. but we not too far apart, assuredly. its consistency that is a bitch.

I tried drawing from imagination for a change

>>3091111
fuck I suck

>>3091644
Can I get a crit pls?

When starting on the loomis meme, should I
>read throughout his books
>copy his drawings
>just draw a fuckton of figures
>everything above
??? I'm not really keen on reading his stuff though

>>3091602
you should start zooming out with a big brush, then zoom in, and correct the values, then zoom in, and on and on and on until it is rendered to desire.

>>3092183

Lads I just bought the cheapest Wacom to start with and to learn/practice drawing. I noticed my hand is shaky and it's pretty hard to get into digital drawing. They gave me this program called Artrage lite to start with. I see a lot of people use photoshop? Should I try that instead?

Pic related is my first ever digital sketch lol

>>3092186
no point in telling yourself that. keep practising
follow the sticky ( https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj ) patiently and a bit everyday does wonders

BEHOLD THE POWER OF THE MIND !
>tfw can't draw bodies yet

>>3091160

>>3092210
interesting reference

>>3092216
kek
thanks for the laugh, anon

>>3092216
interesting reference

>>3092122
The simplest way is to try the pose yourself, and see how it works. Also look for references of walking cicles.

>>3092199
you could at least tell me what i did wrong.

also nice digits

>>3092122
Also the usual, keep working on anatomy and perspective.

>>3092234
not him but its pretty good honestly. do more of them until you get tired and then do more.

i want to die

>>3091118
She's part of the rebel alliance and a traitor, take her away!

>>3092234
dude's just being a moron, it's actually pretty decent, but your hand and feet are minuscule

>>3092234
Not him, but the hands and the feet are too small and the arms are too short, but those are just details, the major thing is that there's no perspective pretty much anywhere.

>>3092255
>>3092236
thx guys, just a question about the elbows, knees etc: is it ok if i draw them a spheres instead of cubes? or is it going to be a problem later on?

>>3092255
again, nice digits.

>>3092234
Not that anon, but you should link the legs to the pelvis the same way you did it with the arms and torso. The legs are attached at the side of the pelvis, not in front or below.

>>3092236
>>3092255
Stop doing this shit, I remember my own frustration when the only response I got was "pretty good, keep working". It was not good, there were a lot of mistakes I didn't notice, and you all didn't bother telling me, or, more likely, didn't notice them too.

>>3092260
Focus on perspective, that is your main issue. See those lines of the face? Where is their vanishing point? See the ellipses on the right arm? The pelvis box? Fix all that.

>>3092260
The elbows and knees are going to be a problem in any way, since they are more linked to anatomy, so dont bother for that right now. For the moment just try to catch the general proportion of your figures.

Do you think their size appears to be considerably different?

How's my Hyde?

>>3092272
>>3092266
>>3092258
>>3092273
perspective, got it.
Thanks for the feedback anons, good night.

>>3092277
No, but either the torso is too big, or the tits are too small. Hard to tell without seeing the whole figure.

And fix the dinosaur arm.

>>3092277
when the tiddy as long as them arms

>>3092284
>> No, but either the torso is too big, or the tits are too small.
I have to admit, this piece of insight was pure gold. Thanks, based anon.

>>3092287
Arms can be rotated in vertical direction, you know.

>>3092295
>thick lines for hand
>thin line on shoulder
boom improved

>>3092295
>Arms can be rotated in vertical direction, you know.
You should work in your perspective then, anon. The forearm and the hand looks smaller than the rest of the arm, and it should be the other way around.

>>3092298
>>3092304
And they say this board got shittier. I'm pretty sure I had left it in a worse state.
Thanks again.

>>3092278
I really like it; it looks genuine, and there are some nice shapes

>>3092316
oh stop baiting.

>>3092186

Yes.

>>3091852
beg is the most active thread because theres more shitters than there are people who are good

>>3091852
yes. its the safe-space cancer containment thread. nobody gets better, some get worse.

>>3091644
Can I have just one (You) please...

>>3092365
Well, what do you want to hear? Your picture doesn't look like the reference. The eyes are way off. Your rendering is pretty bad. Try using hard round brush only, no blur, smudge or whatever. Or a hard brush with some texture if you like, but don't change it.

>>3091119
today's stuff - left my comfort zone and it was painful

>>3091644

learn to draw first before you get into painting. From what I see you don't even understand head perspective.

Crawl before you walk. Right now you're sprinting with a blindfold.

>>3091118
mine looks not very similar... :( also can't be bothered finishing the head dress thing or the Sikh medal

>>3092382
It's a good pain. Your stuff is really cool.

>>3092393
Why are you like this?

Do you find this attractive?

Is Loomis, dare I say it, our guy.

"Even in a period of social adjustment and financial depression. The mental depression of our era weighs heavier on our race and future than do our dollars or lack of them."
- Andrew Loomis, 1939

>>3091787
I had looked at loomis but couldn't find it, tried for myself.

>>3092216
KEK

>>3092404
In what way? This was said during the great depression, and before the ww2.

>>3092405

Fuck loomis. His book is all over the place. Do Hampton, he's more straightforward.

>>3092393

Not beg -> >>3086411

>>3092381
I know my shit is bad, I'd like some actual advice on how to improve or what specifically is wrong instead of you just saying everything is bad. Saying I'm shit doesn't help anyone.
>>3092385
Could you explain to me how the perspective is off? Not disagreeing with you but I'd like to understand more clearly.

>>3092405
Draw the head shape, the spine, the shapes of the rib cage and pelvis, see if it looks correct, fix if it doesnt, then draw the actual body on top. I.e. draw circles, draw the rest of the owl. Also, your picture looks loke she has just released the arrow, when nocking an arrow you won't hold the bow in the shooting position like that.

>>3092420
>I'd like some actual advice on how to improve
Which I gave.

>or what specifically is wrong
Which I said.

>>3092353
>>3092364
Post your work. I'll suck your dick if there's not a single beginner post here better than it.

inb4
>i-i never said im not one of them!

>>3092405
>didn't resize
sorry

>>3092419
Thanks for the tip.

>>3092427
I'll try that. And I worded it wrong, it is just after releasing.

>>3092431
i can admit i'm a shitter amongst shitters, i don't see the problem with that

>>3092364
p[eople most definitely get better (not a lot but it's not entirely a waste of time)

>>3092082
critique me anon-kun

>>3092394
Excellent rendering

Critique would be appreciated. Monk and viperfish were drawn from reference, rest are doodles.

Trying some lineart with the popular calarts cartoon style that mostly uses thick uniform lines.

It's not easy, but at least it's easier than my other lineart attempts. My hands are also still terrible.

>>3092157
A few glaring issues but not my worst. I'm a complete art noob, so I'm just diving in head first

>>3092456
>>3092082
is she half giraffe?

>>3092364

/beg/ is for beginners. You expect masterpiece?

I bet you can't even produce the level of work these anons did.

>>3091017
too much line dependency, practice drawing in shapes and forms.

>>3091618
copying gestures is okay to get the idea but you really want to apply what you see to your own gestures from reference or live model.
Then you compare them to the gestures of a master and see how you could improve

>>3091709
yes, it's just very flat. Try to define the shadow shapes and forms.

>>3092420

Breaking down the structure of the face into simple planes. This makes it easier to see the head in perspective. Of course like everything else in art there's multiple technique to go about it.

At this point I suggest you practice observation first. If you can draw from observation you can move on to construction. It's not impossible to jump right in but it will be torturous.

This is just my suggestion you follow it or leave it.

critique this lion please, sorry for the poor image quality

>>3092514
you made that? is nice.

>>3092514
dude, if it's a beginner piece you are surely doing very well
the fur is perfect, very nice

>>3092514
looks nice but
>png
>2490x1900
why

>>3092364
>>3092353
That sounds depressing. I don't really feel like drawing anymore...

>>3092364
I got better, bitch.

>>3092571

Ignore the shitposter...

>>3090997
I am on my phone right now
Any suggestion is nice

>>3091462

Shitty scanner does it, might be the paper isnt 100% flat when getting scanned.

>>3092571
then you're a statistic, congratulations

>>3092574
not bad - seems as if your line quality got better but you're still symbol drawing (you already know to just keep drawing and focus more on value instead of line to finally break free from it) good luck my guy

>>3091462
Put a book on top of the painting while scanning, it's curling on the glass. Wipe the glass off first, so any oils from your hand don't get scanned.

If te drawing laying flat, then the light source on your scanner is dying.

>>3092574
LMAO don't listen to that other salty anon, he probably doesn't even draw. Good stuff buddy, keep it up!

>>3091600
The composition isn't the problem, the lack of skill is. This is far too advanced for your skill level.

Ref

>>3091739
>>3091798

>>3091649
Don't hunch over your paper. You should be leaning back and looking at the overall page constantly.

i cant do it

>>3092393

The mouth is horrendously big, the nose is comical and the heads always look so tiny. Big face, small head = Looks stupid. Its like your trying to copy anime but at the same time want to make it westerny or something.

I dont get it, the hands look really good, the body is unrealistic but if its for porn it doesn't matter...have you like done a million body studies and just forgot to bother with the face? I just cant get over how bad it looks in relation to the rest.

I tried to look through the posts to help but the garbage itt gave me cancer

>>3092629

who are you replying to?

an unfinished drawing form the other day

>>3092084
>post my pony art
>get banned in minutes

>this shit stays up for 10 hours

yes im mad

>>3092629

>itt gave me cancer

I hope it does...

>>3092646
>said the malignant tumor

>>3092650
Kek... I'm not the one bitching in /beg/

>>3092643
It's a shit rule, the furry one too. They're deprecated trash and the mods are too autistic to understand that.

>>3091602
You placed the mouth as if the person was facing straight at you. It looks like her mouth is veering to the left because of it.

>>3092667
and you're just another cantdrawforshitfaggit in /beg
Checkmate.

I have been having trouble with my art for awhile and I really need Critique. Can you hook me up with some art help, please?

>>3092617
you are focusing on capturing the measurments right, which is good. but you need to work on another level of your art that makes it your own. try varying the darkness of your lines. do a 'final' pass.

i see no glaring issues in the proportions. the little mistakes you will polish over time, thats just petty shit. but you must understand that theres nothing else TO critique but the proportions, and as an artist, you might not want to leave it at that. drive it further. dont feel guilty just because its a photostudy.

I scanned this, extracted the lines in photoshop, and am trying to paint it.

only one problem.

i have never ever painted something original before. so as you can imagine, i have no clue where to even begin with the colors.

can someone give an example as to how you would tackle this in a Gesture/Figure? I dont know why I cant seem to wrap my head around it.

>>3090997
any advice on these?

Just finished this up, definitely fucked some stuff up but I think it came out nice.

>>3091884
darkmall/10

>>3092717
that looks very relaxing JD

>>3092721
thanks. I've never framed anything yet, but this one is a gift. How do you pick a good frame?

>>3092709
draw shapes for the head spine ribcage and pelvis. indicate the arms and legs. then fill in the rest if the shapes look more or less right

>>3092746
>>3092746
>>3092746

>>3092746
>>3092746
>>3092746

>>3092746
>>3092746
>>3092746

>>3092715
small head bottom, oddly curved legs right, turbo pear shape left

>>3091164
amazing