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I started doing concept sketches for a new witch-racing game, but I've been looking at these sketches for too long, I can't even tell anymore! Can you guys help me?
http://imgur.com/a/m7BmA

>> No.3084869

Flip your canvas

>> No.3084879

>>3084869
thenk u i always forget that

>> No.3084881

>>3084867
>neon jelly bracelets
>pastel everything else
Actual torture.

I think both witch designs are cute but the pastel one in the OP image is way too desaturated and incohesive in color scheme. Her skin is desaturated enough that it blends into all the pastels, and there's non-pastels that clash in my opinion. Very cute bat familiar though.

>> No.3084885

>>3084867
The face is nice but the expression seems a bit vacant. The red lips on the broom stand out too much compared to the rest of the palette, as well as those bracelets. Perhaps reincorporate those pinks/blues on the girl's design into other areas, like the bracelets and ring pop.

>> No.3084891

>>3084881
thank you! seems like everyone is critiquing the bracelets lmao I'll fix it
I was going for that 90's jelly bracelets

>> No.3084893

>>3084885
thank you! and omg you noticed that her necklace is a ring pop you're like the FIRST person

>> No.3084914

IMO there's so many thin-and-long components in your art. like : broomstick, stretched arm, motorcycle handles, braided hairdo.
Which could be okay with proper composition, however it isn't presented.
Speaking of composition, bat's overall position is somewhat awkward. because it's fit so tightly in the negative space. empty space between broomstick and hair are identical. which usually does not happen in real life. not natural.
then again this is my own opinion so decision is at your hand.

>> No.3084943

>>3084867
thumbnail looks like a straw stuck in a penis /w a girl riding it

>> No.3084947

>>3084867
dont work in a white canvas. Dont present your work in a white canvas too. Her anatomy is strange, how her legs are rotate towards us, leaving us to see a below view of it. It would need a certain force to her to do it and for sure she would not keep this relaxed smilling face. You need to correct that. I like the bat.

>> No.3084951
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3084951

>>3084947
>dont work in a white canvas. Dont present your work in a white canvas too.

Hmmmm

>> No.3084953

>>3084943
hah

>> No.3084957

>>3084947
everyone likes the bat

>> No.3084958
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3084958

what about this??

>> No.3084963

>>3084951
It's best to work an a neutral grey canvas

>> No.3084971

>>3084958
You could go darker/deeper with the greys of the hair, pants, and cat. Right now the red hat overpowers the image. I understand you're stylizing here but the hips look a bit too thin for her head. Other than that pretty nice.

>> No.3084984

>>3084958
i like it, just refine, detail, polish, certain parts more like the hair/jacket unless your going for a more simplified look, id maybe make her left leg a little more visible or have her leg under a little more noticable

>> No.3084988

>>3084984
thank you, i was kinda really fuckin lost with the legs I gotta admit

>> No.3085072

>>3084867
>>3084958
The mix of thin outlines and thick and heavy ones is jarring to say the least.

Also, thick outlines are shit-tier, just don't.

>> No.3085082

>>3084867
Aside from what everybody said about the outlines, I think the second biggest problem to point out is the coloring.
>everything is flat
>suddenly boobs and face with airbrushed effects/makeup, braids with gradient-like effects, etc.
The change is also wild when confronted with the pale witch because this time everything is "detailed" with her except the hat, cat and the bristles.

Try to re-do one of them with these restrictions:
>only one line weight (either thin or thick or in the middle, no change), no wonky stuff, be precise
>uniform colors (example: fully filled in and flat)
Not imposing anything on you, I just think it could be a great exercise to help you be more homogeneous.
Also yes, the bat is cute.

>> No.3085132

>>3085082
thank you! I always have tons of problems with keeping the lines uniformed digitally, Also I rushed the first one lmao, I'll follow your advice and post an update later!

>> No.3085139
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3085139

i told her u guys like her

>> No.3085149

>>3084867
pandering to the whole diversity narrative are we?

Fucking pussy. "I'll be liked if I draw black people".

Make sure to make a witch in a wheel chair, you fucking ableist.

>> No.3085157

>>3085149
:(

>> No.3085167

>>3084867
>>3084879
>>3084958
>>3084957
>>3085139
Are you a grill?

>> No.3085172

>>3085167
no grills on the internet

>> No.3085178

>>3085172
Then why do you draw like a grill?

>> No.3085180

>>3085178
i think drawing like a grill is fine

>> No.3085189

>>3085180
Yes, when you're a girl. If you draw like a girl when you're male you're just a shit artist.

>> No.3085194

>>3085180
Gays not welcome.

>> No.3085210

>>3085189
/you're/ a shit artist

>> No.3085226
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3085226

>>3085189
Not really

>> No.3085232

>>3085189
stop posting

>> No.3085244

>>3084867
I thought that broom was coming out of a cock

>> No.3085260

>>3085244
thank u

>> No.3085270

>>3084867
I'm not sure about the lips on the bike, design wise and the bandaids pop out too much. Maybe you can darken them?
Either way I like you, OP. Ur a nice gal and I like mango as well.
10/10 would be frens with

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>> No.3085274

>>3085271
Ooooh now I see it!!! thanks

>> No.3085275

>>3085270
i would b frens with u 2 anon

>> No.3085306
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3085306

any better?

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3085480

>>3084958
cat is nice

>>3085149
you dumbass, the primary consumers of witchy aesthetic are tumblr users, wiccans, basically groups that overlap with feminists. OP would be a moron to ignore them. in fact he should have some other characters with slightly different bodytypes and maybe one that's dressed less fanservicy.

>>3084867
overall these aren't very cohesive for themed racers. like the broom doesn't match the girl, in colour scheme or aesthetic. in the red one the handlebars have a motorcycle grease vibe that kind of goes with the girl, but you could push it more with the rest of the broom. look at the prop design for the harry potter movies for inspo. and racing games. like wreck it ralph, each racer has her own cohesively themed kart and outfit.

>> No.3085907

>>3085480
Ooh! i wanted the kart (broom) to be customizable by the users.

>> No.3085908

>>3085306
If you lighten her skin, your art will get more notes.

Just saying.

>> No.3085910

>>3084867
Beginners thread!

>> No.3085932

>>3084867
>Sexy witch girls riding flying brooms with bicycle handles

Son of a bitch, you stole my idea.

>> No.3085937

>>3085932
gasp
did you think it would be a racing game tho

>> No.3085975

>>3085937
No, but I had something very similar in mind

>> No.3086076

>>3085975
oh well like
you can work with us if you'd like

>> No.3086149

Looks like a disgusting succubus with venereal disease. Triggers my immune system.

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>>3086076
>>3085975
>>3085937
>>3085932
buncha retards
this idea is decades old
when i was a kid during 90s i had a book about witches in modern world and ALL of them had bicycle handles on their brooms

only not this stupidly drawn with an uncomfortable handling
Your idea is not original.

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3086169

>>3085149
Literally can't draw black people without it being pandering? Kill yourself.

>> No.3086170
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>>3084867
>>3086169
Not into /pol/ but i agree that you _are_ pandering.
I can see when artist just pandering and when she just drawing a black character.

1) character in OP picture is not black. Its a white girl with bucked-filled brown color
2) you are tumblr girl that wants to look cool by drawing a white girl with brown colors

If you was actually wishing to draw black character it would be visible that the witch is black.
now its some white stacey with brown colors.

>> No.3086172
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3086172

>>3086169
i mean look at this shit
what the fuck
this is literally a white person with unnatural skin color

if you cant draw black people just dont or you will look like a shitty artist pandering to popular group

>> No.3086174

>>3086170
Or maybe they don't know how to draw black people? We have big noses but I'm sure there are those that are unable to draw them due to no previous experience with drawing black people.

>> No.3086176

>>3086172
not to mention its not even black skin
the skin tone is too light. you didnt even tried. Just stupidly splatted anything around brown to some random girl

>> No.3086177

>>3086172
You do realize not every brown person is African, correct?

>> No.3086179

>>3086174
>Or maybe they don't know how to draw black people?
i too just draw white people with brown color because im too lazy to learn how to draw black people first.

do you even know that you making OP sound racist instead of defending her?

imagine if OP was drawing black people with white skin all the time. how stupid it looks

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3086180

>>3086174
black people aren't hard to draw. just find that middle ground between racist caricature and white washing. turns out they look just look like black people. surely you've seen a black person.

>> No.3086181

>>3086177
by this comment you just threw your whole opinion to garbage

>> No.3086183

>>3086179
I like how we're automatically assuming she was attempting to draw an African American. Africans and Europeans are not the only races that exist in this world.

>> No.3086185
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3086185

>>3086180
i was mostly saying about the fact that in tumblr girls literally just splat random brown tones to random white characters and call it a day "Yup! im progressive now. XD all my characters are randomly brown"

OP did exactly the same shit.

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3086186

>>3086180
also: black people know what they look like. every individual person takes some amount of pride in the way they look, regardless of what it is they look like. If you were drawing a girl with big lips and a broad nose, she knows wtf she looks like. She'd be offended if you drew her with anything other than that. If you made her nose or lips or eyes bigger or smaller or "prettier" or "uglier" that usually reveals more about you than it does them.

>> No.3086187

>>3086181
Uh, wrong guy.

>> No.3086188

sorry :(

>> No.3086190

>>3086185
those things are a different species

>> No.3086191

>>3086183
>I like how we're automatically assuming she was attempting to draw an African American
>>3086172
>this is literally a white person
i like how you have shit in your eyes and completely ignoring stuff i wrote.

Character in OP's picture is a generic white american girl.
But with brown color.

Answer me what race is she?
Obviously she supposed to be black since blacks are the most popular brown colored group in tumblr.
I doubt she was trying to make her look Maori.

>> No.3086196

>>3086191
>She is black because that's what I assume she is because my assumptions are always right

The fact that you're denying any other possible option is really lazy. Anyway, you're right. I'm sure OP was attempting to draw a black girl, hence >>3086188

Though I hate that her being a black girl is the only option because 'muh that's what tumlr wunts'.

>> No.3086197

>>3086186
>isis

>> No.3086199
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3086199

i mean is this face a bit more r e p r e s e n t a t i o n a l ? I doodled her unrelated to the game im working on

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3086203

>>3086199
i tried to blackify your witch, OP. howd i do

>> No.3086204

>>3086203
i kind of having grey-blue eyes as a witch trait, didnt think it would hav this kinda backlash

>> No.3086205

>>3086203
Not OP but the nose looks off-center. I might be wrong but it looks a bit off.

>> No.3086206

>>3086205
sorry i drew it with a mouse and im tired

>> No.3086207

>>3086185
>>3086179
>>3086172
>>3086170
I don't think you guys needed to talk so coldly :(

>> No.3086208

>>3086206
Nah it's decent enough, good job.

>> No.3086209

>>3086206
i like it anon, i'll try to fix it based on that

>> No.3086342

Is there a reason why you are not using perspective?

>> No.3086369

>>3086342
I mean, no but im re-drawing the whole thing rn

>> No.3086407

>>3085189
top kek.

>> No.3086659

>>3086076
>you can work with us if you'd like
That would be nice, I'm actually into game making myself. What vacancies do you have in your team?

>> No.3086718

She looks like she flying away from a dick.

>> No.3086872

>>3086659
we're just an indie project with 2 people so far, we JUSt started, i gotta talk with my buddy tho

>> No.3086891

>>3085260
Did I mention that it looks like the broom is coming from a penis?

>> No.3088374
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3088374

Ok based on stuff you guys told me I kinda tried drawing it following your advice

>> No.3088377
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3088377

here's her face (sorry for the grainy thing i only took screenshots)

>> No.3088378

(aaaah I should be clear I didn't re-draw the black witch this is just a separate witch i drew following the advice given on this thread

>> No.3088383

You are still not using perspective.

>> No.3088386

>>3088383
this is not supposed to be a stand-alone piece, it's more of a guide to work with regarding character design when i render it in 3D

>> No.3088391

>>3088383
I mostly practiced with keeping uniform colors and lines, I kinda see why people said it was all wobbly n stuff