/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3066428
if you can't deal with it like an adult, at least act like one when you address it.

>>3066428
Hate is fun, Compliments (from people i respect) are nice, Constructive shit is useful why does everyone have a feelings deficit anytime anything is said?

>>3066428
When I was young I took criticism really well and would always listen to what people told me. I had an iron skin and insults didn't bother me. Now I find if someone is critical it can kind of hurt and I often disagree with what they say.

>respond maturely on the outside
>cry on the inside

>>3066428
I learned that ignoring any sort of critique leads to stagnating, so I just take it and don't talk back to it to correct my mistakes. And I definitely don't ask someone to 'post their work' every time I'm being criticized.

>tfw no criticism because no blog and don't post art because I'm too self conscious
>keep telling myself I'll start a blog when I git gud

>>3066452
Just start right now. When you 'git gud' you can just delete your older posts.

>>3066428
If it's constructive criticism then I try to learn from it.If it's blantant shitposting like "You suck", "Give up", and "KYS" then I ignore it. Why do you think /ic/ is so shitty? It's filled with shit posters, artists who shit on those who are better, and few artists who actually want to improve.

>>3066442
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>>3066454
>>3066458

Post your work and let's see how well you respond to the criticism.

>inb4 post yours first

>>3066428
is this some 12yo's blog?
>boohoo why u so mean? :(

>>3066428
I take it a little personally when I first here it, but I can tell when criticism is genuine and when someone is just being a dick. Honestly, the best remedy is to get over yourself and learn, and I'm still trying to do that.

>>3066581
have some sketches, have a blast.

>>3066582
Nah it's honeyboyy.tumblr.com and I don't think he's 12 but maybe.

>>3066581

>>3066428

Imagine how much criticism I get for drawing shit like this?

Pro tip: Take suggestions, reply respectfully, don't give a fuck and move on.

If the guy keeps annoying you with bullshit, shit post.If it is irl. Punch him for invading your personal space.

>>3066428
I typically demand criticism and just ignore compliments. Why would I not want to know what I'm doing wrong, it's the only way to improve.

Honestly I hardly ever get criticism from anyone other than myself but it's not like I have really posted anything in a long while either.
Last time I posted here though I did get fairly decent critique that said I should work on my perspective and also my lines are too stiff so I took that and worked on it but that was a long time ago.
I do tend to avoid asking for criticism at this point though unless I am asking a specific artist I trust or respect to give it to me straight and thorough.

>>3066452
>start blog
>haven't updated in months because of this
kill me

I love criticism (on my art anyways) because it tells me exactly what to work on. I'm always getting annoyed because I can't see my art from the point of view of someone who hasn't seen it yet. Once I've been staring at the same painting for so many hours I can't even tell if it looks weird or not because everything starts to look weird. Like when you say a word too many times and it's not a word anymore. BUT. I've found that taking a picture of my paintings with my phone and then flipping it horizontally exposes all the things I need to fix.

>>3066639
crapfish you melt down like every other month

>>3066581
can you quote the other posts too? thx

The person in OP's pic was being a dick, though. Constructive criticism is good, but just saying "read some art books" isn't actually helpful. Also, some artists are just doing it as a hobby/for fun (especially younger ones) and they don't necessarily need critiques on their Steven Universe OCs or whatever the fuck tweens draw nowadays.

>>3066445
For me, it really depends on what I'm being critiqued on. If it's something new that I'm learning just for fun, then I don't mind critiques at all no matter how harsh. But if it's something related to what I want to specifically and if it's something I worked really hard on, then it stings like hell when a teacher or whoever doesn't like it. But I still appreciate the criticism and do my best to improve for next time.

>>3066719
Used to, but not now. I admit I have matured quite a bit. Mostly since I had this transcision to finally being an adult and accepting the fact that I was born to become a low tier hentai artist. And I love it.

The reason of my meltdowns was based on identity crysis and emotional suffering from an ex-love interest. But I settled my case. Grew the fuck up. And learned to be a more stable and rude asshole. So, sorry that you had to see me in my crysis era.

Sometimes it's harder to decipher if someone is actually critiquing your work or just being an asshole. Especially if it's online and through text, where things like sarcasm aren't easy to convey. Critiquing artwork is also an entire skill people have to develop and work on. Just saying you don't like something sounds rude and isn't helpful. Tell them something you don't like about it, then give them a couple ideas on how to fix that. Then tell them something you do like about it. That's what they taught us in art class and it works really well. (Plz no art school jokes I only took a couple art classes in college)

>>3066428
>Do you take it to heart and feel insulted?
ALWAYS. But I use it to do better. How? by not doing this >Do you block it all out?

You never bottle it up inside by not doing anything. I channel that feeling out by doing it again. I get knots in my stomach and I feel like my ego was trampled on over and over, especially if the person who critiques my work keeps pointing out the mistakes. But I use that negative energy. Because that's all you can do. And if you're in this business of creating visual work where it is 100% subjective, you better be ready to handle what people may or may not like about your work. I once made a mistake during one of our assignments in painting class and was hammered so badly by the professor all I could do was grin and bear it. It made me angry and embarrassed to be humiliated like that in front of friends and fellow art colleagues. But I used that and created a follow up of the assignment that it as not only praised by the professor, but that she even insisted she buy that work from me for 2K! And, that it was submitted on display at my former college art gallery for the entire year.

So use that criticism to your advantage. Don't keep it locked inside you and don't seek others to hold your hand to soften the blow. You will grow as an artist that way.

I never feel sad when people criticize my work because I can see it too. Chances are I saw it before anything was said.

Any pessimists i aint talkd to dem + i aint got no phone in my apart-a-ment

>>3066428
There's a difference between valid criticism and someone trying to get a rise out of you.

The former is always appreciated, the latter can be ignored

I thank the lord above whenever someone takes time out of their day to address my measly artworks, what works and what doesn't

It is literally manna from heaven when most people just don't say shit

>>3066428
I think about what was said and then work on improving specifically that. If you take it to heart you're not gonna make it. If something was said there must be some truth to it because it has to be visible to be pointed out, no matter how nit picky it still exists bottom line, so fix it. If you take it to heart it's because you know they're right but you're too lazy, stupid, or too far gone in denial about your own skill to fix it.
There's my serious answer.

>>3066428
Critiques are not just being told if you did something wrong. A critique is giving you something you can never do yourself - seeing your work through someone else's eyes. It also forces you to listen to what's being said, processing it, and either agreeing with it, or defending your choices. All of that is important to any artist. Yes, you have to filter out ass kissing, just-being-polite commentary, and shit talking, but that gets easier over time.
When you can put work up in front of people, and defend it, that's a sign you're on your way. When you look at any square inch of your work, and give a solid reason why it's that way, you're well along the way.
If you can't defend it, then you have a clear idea of where and what you need to do to improve. Even if it was a random brushstroke that was unintentional, but looks cool, you should be able to say "It was a random mistake, but I like the way it looks, and I decided to keep it."

>>3066452
How do you know what "gud" is, then?

>>3066594
>have some sketches
Kek, like you have anything else to show.

>>3066740
>low tier hentai artist
>hentai
You are just another western weeb trying to drawn "anime" not a hentai artist

>>3067330
Not him, but "hentai" is now something special, that's a cut above "anime"?

I don't have to deal with criticism because I don't produce crap. The best thing you could do.

I've been posting my stuff on /ic/ since I first started drawing, there's absolutely nothing bad anyone could say about my work, deserved or otherwise, that would make me react emotionally. I'm pretty self-critical as it is, and I hate almost everything I make shortly after I make it as soon as I start to see flaws, even if it was a really big improvement on what I was doing at the time.

I made a deviantart account not too long ago, and the first thing that really stood out to me is that you get absolutely nothing but praise for everything you do, regardless of how shitty it is. I can see how somebody who only posts in an environment like that could turn out weirdly sheltered and defensive when exposed to anything even slightly negative.

When you're so used to everything you shit out just being heaped with more and more praise, having that go on for years, and then somebody pops out of the woodwork talking like they're on /ic/ I'm sure it's total culture shock, they just have no idea how to deal with it.

For people like that, everything they produce is like a ticket to receive praise. It's a total kindergarten ego trip.

>>3066896
show what you've got m'dude

Why would I get insulted or block it out when someone's taking their time to pinpoint problems that I didn't see?

>>3066594
I think it looks rather interesting! Is there a particular style you're trying to emulate? Or is it one of your own creation?

>>3066623
I would also really like to see this one finished!

>>3067446
my dad asked me 2 years back why everything i drew looked like those japanese shows ( he likes dbz, deathnote and avatar), I couldn't bring myself to tell him i was a fucking weeb so ive been transitioning towards realism with a touch of evil/grotesque/refinement ever since.

Heavens no. I'm so self-critical that I always see my own mistakes and know what to study to better learn the subject before anyone else even realizes or tells me I fucked up. No one can tell me anything I don't already know. I've always got my next study session planned around my latest fuckup.

>>3067451

Me too, but I've been burning out all my art energy at work. Don't even want to pick up a pencil when I get home. Still I'm whitling away at it.

>>3067330
Cartoon porn artist then, whatever floats your boat.

>>3067973
You need fundamentals, anon.

>>3067975
I know, but I don't care while it still puts a boner on my pelvis

>>3067463
>>3067463

that took you 3 years to get to? what the fuck are you doing with your life?

>>3067979
the date is when it was drawn

>>3067995

no shit retard.
1st >>3067463 in 2014
and
>>3066594 this year

you waste so much time shitposting on this board, you havent improved within an entire year.

>>3067998
Care to post your work?

>>3067980
>Not wanting to get better because you get a boner
You're a weird man, man

What if I told you you could make your boner even bigger after practise?

>>3067980
It gives you a boner because you're ignorant of what is true pleasure, enjoy your sweet pleb bliss for now.
Once you learn you will never get erect from your art again and will be forced to improve

Also: theres no reason for you to be in this board if you're not asking for critiques

>>3066428
My art has been at a level where normies cant even critique it. I post sometimes in /beg/ and my stuff never even gets critiqued.
How does someone deal with nonexistant criticism?

>>3068120
become so good that people can't ignore you.
or become so bad that people can't ignore you.

>>3066639
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>>3067973
>>3067980
Your art is shit. Why don't you suck your own dick and backflip out of /ic/? Stop posting outside of your containment threads, you reek of special snowflake

>>3068117
m-my childhood
a-anon,
why?

>>3068097

is that your answer to anyone telling you your work has not improved?

"someone said I was bad so I told them to post their work! I showed them alright!"

https://yuki.la/ic/2918697

I had really shitty art, and thought I was decent. This was around 2009 when you weren't allowed to have any self love on the internet. Posting my shitty art places and saying stuff like, "I like how this came out. There's nothing wrong with the eyes, it's my style xD" attracted trolls to me like bugs to a lamp.

For four yrs I got harassed and "critiqued" non stop on every platform I used, nothing good was ever said. A lot of it was fueled by vendetta BNF (for me not liking her precious otp and dumb fics everyone creamed over).
But it slowly killed me.
Sadness turned to apathy. Enjoyment of drawing turned to resentment against the pencil.
2012-2014 I disappeared from the net. Slowly erased all my history. It was the only way to stop the harassment (they even started to fuck with me at anime cons in person).
2014-present I reinvent myself, new name, style, and so on. The trolls are gone. I get some praise on my art, but still most legit crits when I ask for them is not positive. However,
Now I'm 100% metal skin when it comes to my art, but that's only because I 100% loath everything I do, and it has been drilled into my head that I will never be good. I see barely any improvement on my art over the years, and creating art is such a chore for me anymore.

>>3068148

this isnt a blog, post your work and show your progress/failure

>>3068152
Op asked how you handle crit, dumbass

>>3068141
you forgot to attach your art with your comment.

>>3066428
Be like ok thanks for the input and either decide to incorporate it into your work or not depending on whether what they say is constructive or not for you
That's what i do lol

>>3066836
This

>>3068166

are you a plastic surgeon?

>>3068520
Why do you ask? Because of my hate of otoplasty and botched rhinoplasty?

I work in a call center :^)

>>3068621

I was reading through your reddit posts. you're smarter than I expected and I still don't know why you shitpost here all the time.

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>>3068106
I improve at my own rate, but why should I feel tied to only improve if I don't enjoy what I draw

>>3068117
I started drawing because I had no Internet in my teen years and the fetishes in the cowboy comics were not enough

>>3068130
Yeah now tell me something I don't know

Critique is good when it's coming from someone who knows their shit. Harsh criticism/just being an ass has really upset me before and put me off showing people my work.

>>3066428
>post your work on the internet
>get your feelings hurt by even the most basic comments or critiques
>need to shun all criticisms or have a safety net of dicksuckers to cope with them
This is so, so prevalent in online art and on this board, and I've never been able to fully understand it. I don't need a way to ""deal"" with it, I take what I can use from what people say and try to get better. Shitposts and obvious baits are easy enough to filter past if you're not cripplingly autistic. Even the ""mean"" posts usually have some bit of useful critique in them that I can use. It's a meme response but you honestly just need to get thicker skin, and stop emotionally investing yourself so fully into your shitty drawings

>>3066452
>mfw I have relinquished all wants to be known and get attention
>mfw I haven't had a blog in years

It's quite liberating actually, no more having to worry about someone thinking you're just desperate for attention when putting too many tags or if someone liked or faved I can't believe we let that sort of cancer get between us and our work.

>>3068886
>he was a blogfag
I can't believe it, either