/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3053945
lotta kids hang around here. most kids are shitbags

>>3053948
every year the demographic gets younger. I'm gettin too old for this site but I have nowhere else to go

>>3053950
How old are you anon?

>>3053959
32, been visitng this shithole for almost 2 decades. I really might be here forever

>>3053960
But can you draw?

>>3053960
I'll be 30 this month. If it helps you learn something there is no shame in staying.

>>3053945
Maybe because it's anonymous? There's a reason why "post your work" is a standardized response to these very negative people.

>>3053945

Normies, Anon.
This is one thing that /r9k/ got right. The Normies. They infest everything and this is why we can't have nice things.
Think about it, if there were half as many people tomorrow on /ic/, but they were all serious about art and gifted by God with a functionning brain... no more daily thread asking where to find Discord or why Genzoman a shit. This place would be a paradise for artists. It will not happen. I currently have 70 Hidden threads.
Normies.

>>3053973
Do you really think neckbeards and such are really smarter than normies?

>>3053973
don't kid yourself, all the normie approved outlets like tumblr and reddit are infinitely more supportive and helpful than this place.

>>3053983
Then why are any of us here?

>>3053987
to hide behind anonymity

>>3053945
hurling anonymous abuse behind a keyboard is nothing new or unique to this board.

>>3053960
>>3053965
>grandpas on this site
lmao losers

>>3054000
fuck off, you're the reason people keep making the "I'm 25 is it too late for me" threads

>>3054000
Can't be a grandpa. I don't even have kids. ;_;

be the change you want to see?

This isnt reddit

why are there so many meta bitching threads lately holy shit

>>3054010
send me a link to a great artist who started sometime in their late 20's

good luck

>>3054010
the reason they make it is because they're old losers, not my fault

>>3054058
this

>>3054053
this

>>3053993
and this you faggot.

>>3054058
https://www.artstation.com/artist/cryptcrawler

>>3054072
>no bio on any page
>dig around for his personal info or an about topic
>closest thing I can find is crimsondaggers interview
> "I have been drawing for my whole life"

ok

>>3054065
but anyone can draw amazingly if they want, its a technical skill, nothing more

>>3053945
Because it's 4chan. 4chan is nothing more than a bitchfest now (yeah people have always bitched but c'mon there's an obvious difference across the entire site). 4chan used to be cool and honest, now its just a piss pool for self-centered idiots with no social skills.

>>3054058
fucking van gogh started at 27.

>>3054058
If say Mike Mignola started drawing right now in his 50s for the first time ever, he would surpass someone like you in 2 months tops. It's all about talent / aptitude and hard work, kiddo. You will never have what it takes to be great even if you started drawing in your mom's womb.

>>3054095
He is referring to doodling as a kid, what literally every child in a developed nation did. So I guess by your definition, we all have been drawing all our lifes. If you had actually watched that interview you'd know he is talking about being an alcoholic who started taking art seriously in his late 20s.

>>3054059
ah the miracles of youth
dont worry, its not like youll ever get old or anything...will you?

>>3053945
I agree and disagree with you. If this place was a fap fest then it would just be another DA and everyone would stagnate or be flat out lied on how "good" their work is. Or there would be a lot of inexperienced kids that never drew calling shit "stupid" and declaring it as criticism without really pointing out the flaws. Do i agree with it, fuck no, but its the internet.

>>3053945
are you confusing lack of asspats with hostility or something? There's a lot of great advice esp. for beginners thrown around if you're willing to actually google the books/videos/etc people tell you to read and study and shieet. What more do you want? It's a fucking hobbyist board on a mongolian basket weaving forum, not your personal art teacher.

>>3053945
Agreed man, most folks around here lack any civility and instead of gitting gud they abuse of their anonimity to hurl rage insults at other anons because they're mad they can't draw for shit. They're pretty pathetic really. Pic is an accurate representation of these big bad keyboard warriors

>>3054298
He never saw the fruits of his labor, so I don't think he's a good example desu

I wish we were more like 2011 era /fit/

That was greatness

>>3053945
Literally everyone on here gives advice above their own level.

>>3054378
doesn't matter. he got gud.

if you're doing art to get successful, and ONLY to get successful, you're ngmi

pay me $3k / month and I'll tutor you

>>3054428
Post your work.

>>3053960
I'm curious, what was this place like 2 decades ago? Was it better or any different than it is now?

>>3055241
was probably the same

>>3055267
>probably
>cause idk
Heh okay kiddo

>>3053945
Because those bucket crabs failed to git gud, and they can't stand the idea of others succeeding where they failed.

>>3055241
Early on it was much smaller with about half as many boards, and the demographic was much younger. There wasn't much to do on the internet for normies, so it was mostly teens, nerds, and businessmen. There were much less rules, and it was pretty lawless with the kind of content that got posted. Spamming and thread killing was common and often went unpunished as the staff was tiny.

I can't say it got better or worse, the place just became much more normie friendly now. On one hand, you're much less free to act and say what you want, on the other subcommunities like /ic/ can flourish since the people conducive to building a learning environment would never have come here in the previous lawless state.

>>3054423
I just don't think dying a depressed suicidal is worth it.

>>3055363
he was murdered by a 16 yr old
no gun was found on the scene and its known he had a quarrell with the lad

>>3053945
It's about thinning the competition.

>>3054065
Drawing is a skill that is learnt through practice. Anyone that isn't disabled can draw good.

>>3055358
Sounds like it was more interesting back then, but /ic/ is probably better now since being a learning environment is part of our main purpose. thanks for replying btw

>>3053945
Stop being so whiney and grow some balls, faggot. This isn't tumblr.

>>3055695
this, never share the good resources with these scrubs. the market is saturated as is, everyone else can go fuck themselves

>>3053945
>does anonymity and art not mix well?
No. Too much of this forum is taken up by shitposters and trolls, half the threads are the same "how do git gud at drawing porn" posts, and there's way too many people with no skill or talent who have reduced art to a grim, sterile process of repetition, as punishment for others, so they feel good about their failure.
Any attempt to actually teach is met with bullies, neckbearding, and just the usual garbage that 4chan is known for.

>>3054378
Lol dumbfuck

It could have something to do with the conversation-shaping role of 'transaesthetics', where there are no more baseline artistic standards but every piece, or individual, is viewed through the same few lenses.

>>3056122
Basically I'm saying that the loss of the Western cultural etiquette and standards of politeness made contemporary art possible. Modern Art might be the stimulus to a certain behaviour pattern; the same argument some people have made about rock music. We should try changing the ad banners on /ic/ for the next three months to something more tasteful... even something like that could influence behaviour.