/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Draw while shitposting.

>>3020839

I print out my references, go to the library and draw for 2-3 hours before classes start in the evening. I'd say it's pretty fucking effective given the short amount of time spent.

>>3020836
Cut your time you spend with smartphone, computer etc. digital art is cancer in my opinion.
Try out pic related.

>>3020836

I have self control. But if you ain't got it, go to a bookstore or cafe with only art supplies and no computer.

>>3020839
Don't... pic related.
>>3020836
Stop shitposting then. Make yourself a rule.
Swallow your pride, put in some time and effort, and post in beg. Who knows, you might get some helpful critique and start to improve... Or you might get shit on by somebody like yourself. Let it roll off.
...Or cry harder, rub your eyes red, and shitpost through the pain.

>>3020836
I like to use this.

http://neilblr.com/post/58757345346

Counter hits 1.5-2 hours, take a ten minute break. If you're working traditionally, attune the .exe to a pdf or your reference sheet or something.

If you don't draw, please leave. /ic/ has enough problems.

>>3020922

Screw Milt Kahl. I listen to music at work. It HELPS me focus.

>>3020906
This guy is shit at painting from life. He's standing in front of water but his painting looks like trees. What a fucking retard. NGMI.

>>3020836
Cut out Internet. Go hermit mode. You already have all the information you need. Now you just need to shut up, sit down, and work.

>>3020906
The amount of insecurity it must take to even make a comparison image like this is truly impressive.

>>3020906
so I gather from this image that you have a beard and a ponytail

>>3020966
>Don't see a tree on a cliff

Dude, seriously stop digital art. Too much computer & smartphones makes people retarded, it's not even fun anymore.

>>3020974
>>3020976
(You)

>tfw I used to buy a fuckton of material
>tfw after a single 1 week course from a professional I realized all I needed was $4 sketchbooks, an 8b pencil and an inkpen.
>Made my best drawings with a budget of less than $30

>>3020906
the sailor moon guy looks fun, the other guy can't paint and he looks insufferable

>>3020836
Download one of the following:

Focal Filter

SelfControl

Freedom (got a referral link for this one: https://freedom.refersion.com/c/e7c7b )

>>3020836
They don't. /ic/ is just talentless neets who can't commit to anything who just shitpost and drain the talent and time from anyone actually dumb enough to come here and want to work improve.

>>3020836
not being a little bitch helps

My formula:

>get a sizable playlist of music you really like, some +1000 hand picked songs should do
>get a collection of stuff you actually want to draw, not as only as reference, but inspiration
>lot's of coconut ice cream, capuccino, yorgut, etc. empty belly and a restless tongue = no concentration
>fuck tables, get yourself a hard tablet of wood (not a tech tablet), paper and spherograpic pen,
>sit on your bed or something, you won't stay in the same position for long
>don't say you"ll feel like sleeping, faggot
>put the paper on the fucking wood tablet or so
>draw
>go walk the dog, 2 kilometers a day should do
>watch anime and shitpost when you start feeling alienated (yeah, I know...)

Currently running low on coconut ice and my playlist isn't complete. I clock 4 hours or so every day as a a smelly filthy neet. It's not 16 hours a day but I'm content with my gains so far.

Drawing protip for when not drawing:

>start imagining how things are behind themselves like you are constructing them and taking them apart
>this will get your brain aquainted with a "drawing mentality" and you pumped up to put it into action

I call this "passive gains". Basically when not drawing, think about drawing.

>>3020979
nigga too shy to even put his hand on imaginary gf baka

>>3022014
Lol the hover hand

>>3020836
You sound like the self-aware version of >>3023962

>>3025077
Surprisingly astute necro.

>>3020906
>Thinking all digital art is trash because alot of people use digital for ugly anime girls and starting out without fundies.

>>3020979
who was in the wrong here?

I don't.
I spend 10hours a day commuting and working, plus on days I go to the gym or go out.
Then at home I can only really start doing shit I like between 10pm and 1am; this includes shitposting, playing vidya, watching animu and movies, reading books and mangos AND drawing.
That's why I'm never gonna make it.
Fuck the engineer meme, I want to be an artist.

>>3020851
>do you find more comfortable to have your references printed rather than looking at a screen?

>>3020836
step 1: close 4chan
step 2: write down a balanced schedule where you mix boring stuff(books,studies,etc) with fun stuff(drawing anime,porn,painting,etc)
step3:???
step4:profit

without schedule:5 hours per week
with schedule:48 hours per week

>>3025882
How the fuck do you spend 6-7 hours a day doing art ?
Are you a NEET ?

>>3025897
im not a neet and i can easily pull that.
cut vidya
cut friends (except every now and then you know)
stay up late
cut relationships and all that dating shit.

its not hard. just do it. work up to it and it becomes easy to do that and want to do more.

>>3025908
post where all this has gotten you

>>3025911
i have been doing this for a bit over a year and a half and this is 1 year progress. i drew at least 2160 hours probably closer to 2700 if you include days where i worked more. that year. i will also post my blog tkgmalice.tumblr.com so you can see where i am currently at this will be my second year of drawing as much as possible in November.
im not the shit or anything but i am at least improving a bit. and i think its worth it. im actually starting to like some of the stuff i do (not a lot but some) . and i can say that after cutting all that other stuff and really trying to get better i am over all happier as a person.

>>3025926
>types paragraph forgets image......

>>3025926
>2700
>only improved that much
im about to say fuck art

>>3025938
well i started by not learning properly that year ( doing studies ,gesture warm ups every day and grinding anatomy and all that what not) and only attempting from imagination with little reference. then i did the whole draw a box thing about half way in and tried to improve my methods after that. i have been doing a lot more of it. so hopefully i will be going faster soon and its kind of working i think.
but its not for everyone i suppose.

Is it a good investment to quit 4chan.

>>3025947
it would help if you post a lot (i have found myself getting sucked into just reading all the stuff at time) but i just try to minimize it. but /ic/ is very useful.

>>3025926
>>3025929
>TWO THOUSAND AND SEVEN HUNDRED HOURS
>THIS MUCH PROGRESS
i give up

>>3025929
>studies bodies
>completely ignores the hands
what's the point retard?

>>3025938
>>3025953
You do know it's different for everyone, right? Some would take much more hours to get to this level, some would take much less. Think about what exactly you want to do and figure out a plan to get there.

>>3025958
like i said , i wasn't learning in the right way. if you go to the posted blog i often will draw hands (not well as a result unfortunately) but i do.

>>3025897
>>3025882 here
not a neet but in a position where i can draw and work at same time
>post where all this has gotten you
i just have few weeks under my belt and not much improvement to show but here i go... last one is copied the rest are from imagination
>>3025926
>cut vidya
>cut friends (except every now and then you know)
>stay up late
>i did the whole draw a box thing
well seems like i am not the only one doing this good to know i am on the right track

>>3025929
The left side is not that great. But the page on the right is pretty alright if you ignore the hands.

>>3020979
I do both tho, digital is just really nice with undo and layers

>>3020906
This so much. But not for the reasons that fag said. I think digital art is cancer as a beginner because its easier to get distracted and go on 4chan or whatever. When I draw and practice traditionally I can usually hammer out 14 hours easy. Maybe that's just me though

>>3021484

Tools start to matter when you go beyond sketching in value only and want to make completely painting with vivid colors that last.

But yeah, I agree generally.

>>3020942
That's not true. You think it helps you focus cause you're an idiot.

Listening to music and doing another activity forces you to multitask. You can't do two things at once, no one can. Yet a lot of people are convinced they can, even though they do both activities poorly.

Don't be an idiot. Learn to fix your shit now!

>>3026405

I’m not sure that this is true. I avoided listening to music whilst I drew for long time because of this logic, but I find if I chuck some msuic on, it seems to pacify the restless procrastinating part of my brain and I can get into the drawing zone much more easily. Doesn’t seem to affect the quality if my work negatively either so imma keep doing it.

>>3026405
>>3026599
Science incoming!

Instrumental music helps focus if the environment is distracting. If that's not the case, it is indeed a crutch that decreases productivity but gives the feeling of higher productivity because your brain is stimulated.


But what the heck does it matter what someone else does? Let people do their own thing.

>>3025959
Basically this.
Have a goal, and make it specific. The more specific, the better.

If your shit looks bad, that means you've seen other artwork that looks "better". Figure out why that better artwork looks the way he does. Copy it, break it down, study it, then apply their methods onto yours.
Getting gud is easy, family.

>>3027577
>Getting gud is easy, family.

In theory, yes. Doesn't go quite as smoothly in practice.

>>3027580
Why not? Sounds like you're a bitch. Keep practicing.

>>3020851
>tfw all your references are too lewd to be visible in public

>>3025938
>>3025953
Honestly just about the right amount of progress for someone at two thousand hours. I haven't seen the other milestones though since few people keep track of their hours.

>>3027526
>Instrumental music helps focus if the environment is distracting. If that's not the case, it is indeed a crutch that decreases productivity but gives the feeling of higher productivity because your brain is stimulated.
>tfw have noticed this lately
Time to cut music too now.

>>3028517
I'm >>3018298

>>3018300
>>3018301
>>3018303
>>3026684
>>3027781
>>3027784

A bit over 3500 hours starting in 2012 (80 hours in 2012, 170 hours in 2013, not sure about 2014 probs around a 100, a bit under 1500 in both 2015 and 2017, 150ish (don't want to count right now) in 2017 so far). But I read a shitton of animal encyclopedia as a kid, so that helped. I'm really bad at architecture/mechanics/vehicles by comparison.

>>3028522
>in both 2015 and 2017
*2015 and 2016

a bunch of fancy shmancy supplies (even though are necessary and great) isnt the answer! (sometimes)
just get a piece of paper and pencil
inspiration isnt gonna walk right through the door
just get drawing

>>3027577
>>3027580
It's definitely not easy, but it sure is simple.

>>3026405
>don't listen to music
>get to hear colleagues/flatmates/neighbors being loud as fuck

I'm not going to come out and say it helps, though. I've never seen or felt any noticeable difference either way, outside of music being less annoying than annoying people making annoying noises. Any argument for or against it is founded squarely in pseudoscience.