/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Did a quick still life with the same concept as the landscape in the last thread. Much easier once I used simpler subject matter. Still a very perspective heavy exercise, but the more I do it the more I'll learn

was gonna do a bunch of thumbnails but then spent an hour on this

dude for a comic im doin

a guy from a comic im working on

am just working on portraits by stippling...

>>2992225
I think it's pretty neat, what's the blue flame stuff?
also I feel like the palette (as limited as it is) isn't that cohesive.. I'm no pixel artist though, I tried an edit but might not be what you're going for.

Did some more work to this
To the anon replying in the previous thread, I'll try to take tat into consideration

>>2992306

looks like an ayylmao, eyes are off (and too big), nose is wonky. I'm not sure if there'd be any good method for planning a drawing when stipling, unless you did an underdrawing for feature placement in pencil then stipled in pen.

>>2992414
love this! super nice lighting wow

>>2992306
I love the stippling but you're ignoring the subtle details of the face.

Here's what I mean. The eye on the right in your reference photo has more of it's iris visible since the child's not squashing his cheek.

Since more of the iris is visible, the eye looks wider

The nose you stippled is pointing straight at the viewer even though the child is NOT looking straight ahead in the reference

So more of the right side should be visible.

The eyebrows are to well defined in your image. In the original they're thin and faint

the eye on the right is too close to the nose

The lips are also tilted downward a tad too much and are too defined.

Most of what I've just pointed out is meant to show that the subtle details make up the face and if certain details are off like the eyes, eyebrows, nose or lips, the whole portrait can go wrong.

People with soft features can be pretty hard since there's less room for error and you must be subtle. Maybe try using a basic grid for the proportions? You could sketch out the face in very light pencil then go over with stippling

>>2983150
Not final

What you think?

>>2992821
really nice but can't tell if man or womin

>>2992836

>>2992838
I think it's pretty obvious that it's a man

>>2992836
>>2992842
Amazing dude. Keep it up and keep posting!

>>2992847
thanks mate, got a lot more art coming

>>2992847
cheers mate
Last one

>>2992861
cute anon

let's put it on the fridge

did more to this

>>2992859
blog?

>>2992967
>tfw Brian is getting better while you aren't

>>2992255
pixelated as heck anon. work big and then size it down for saving as png etc

>>2992414
anon you rocking fun! or fucking rock idk anymore it's so sexy I lost my mind

look AT MY ART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>2992859
how the fuck, this is incredible

I legitimately just started drawing I really enjoy doing cartoony drawings I want to eventually start animating but this is one of the few I've started with.

help me out here, /ic/

half of me tells me something is off about the pose while the other half says it's fine.

>>2993215
No one holds a fist to their head like that. They usually prop themselves up at either the cheek or the chin.

Drawn from imagination.

>>2993227
the main thing is that her fist is sitting at her glasses.either further up or down.

>>2993158
nice work man, lines looking really thick, solid, tight.

>>2992838
you probably been watching too much tranny porn

>>2992967
i did more to your mum last night
>>2993227
no you dumbass you never seen a girl tryna look cute while shes talking to a guy? obviously not cuz you're an ugly virgin whos never interacted with females, I on the other hand see this all the time from first person experience

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFuck faces

paper placement of figure left me with good room to make a composition, fun drawing

>>2993509

cont'd

>>2993540
Nice lines.

>>2993480

>Fuck faces

Actually pretty good though d00d, hard angle to draw from.

>>2993149
is he though?

wip
first time seriously painting digitally, it's hard af. Having trouble with my edges/blending/hair/everything. I gridded it so placement was accurate to my ref and I could focus on rendering digtially. Anything that sticks out in that regard?

>>2993480
nice. slight feels.

>>2993634
Thanks. I made a batman tonight too

Im planning on doing a painting with a goose mother, who would rather be on reality tv, so her goslings leave her.

Im pretty happy about this sketch, so i would like some of you to shit on my perspective and tell me what to change before i go ahead and paint it.

>>2992821
You are godlike

>>2993215
I think her back is a little too stiff, she's too upright, needs to be more relaxed.

>>2992821
How can you shade like this? My linework is pretty okay (praise loomis), but I just can't understand how to render at all.

>>2993734
He probably just smear it out.

>>2992248
Pretty cool, but his pose seems a bit weird, like he's pushing his shoulders forward as much as he can.

>>2992414
Wonderfully calming to look at.

>>2992821
Holy shit, anon! Is that charcoal?

>>2992414
Cool lightning and colors, but composition is meh. You should pass more time on it

>>2992967
I assume those blobs of white are supposed to be secondary light shadows?
If so, paint them in. It will help you see the image more clearly and be able to see what needs to be
changed
Having a big clump of white distorts your perception of values and colours

>>2992248
reminds me of one piece. especially because of that hat that looks very devil fruit-like

>>2993892
the concept is that my point of view is a reverse light source. That what is obscured by the objects is a shadow I am casting myself. I tried to add impasto to it to further the concept.

>>2993285
thanks anon

tfw you get paid $10 each for a few portraits

I wish the graphic design board wasn't trash

>>2993734
not him but practice shading to describe form, leave no whites of the page visible except for the highlights

random stuff

what do you think???

How do you get into painting? I feel like I don't understand it at all

>>2994149
2 things. That's a very fat wrist and that you don't like drawing faces.

Especially looking at her mid section I think you should pay more attention to the shapes that make up bigger parts.

Try looking at your ref with both images zoomed out. Turn the ref into grey scale first. Then compare the value ranges.

>>2994161
Do some studies of actual paintings, like portraits and junk, before trying to tackle something so grand. Remember, you never learned how to do math by just writing numbers, someone had to show you how they work.

from life. was difficult. need pointers.

Just started on this guy, Octopodes are my favourite. I have a year off from University to work on my 2D/3D work and don't want it to go to waste, have a long way to go and a lot of work to do this year if I want to get where I want to be.

>>2994358
I like it but watch the perspective, angle of the left eye and maybe move it a bit further down and the left nostril seem to face a whole other direction?

>>2994362
Incredibly helpful, thank you, anon- I often don't see these things with the first sketch and on flipping the canvas I definitely see what you mean, I'll fix those first thing in the morning.

>>2994368
No problems, you got more of this somewhere?

I'm trying to struggle my way through Ctrl+paint, is it normal that the portraits always look creepy as fuck?

Do I have to convert to anime if I ever want to be able to draw a remotely cute girl?

>>2994135
Simple forms, my man. You can be stuck with those small format drawings without perspective for a very long time, or buckle down and learn how to connect a couple boxes and cylinders together in space.

>>2994117
Love your rendering, but there are a few issues. The building in the background looks like a paper cut-out. Give it a much broader value range to add some plasticity, reference a photo if you're not sure.
Also be careful with the blur. I'd suggest to use it either on moving objects or as a depth of field effect - which means the part of the street that are the same distance as the front of the bus (the focal point) should be crisp as well.

>>2994370
Not yet- admittedly I've been pretty shy about posting my work online but I'm going to force myself to set up a blog/online presence in the next few weeks.Would be a nice way of tracking progress I think, if I can avoid the urge to compulsively delete the old stuff.

>>2994377
whats with you faggots picking the absolute worst pics to study from? A fucking selfie from a top down angle with hair covering 25% of her face and soft flat lighting, and you wonder why you're struggling, huh

>>2994389
Ah, just do it man, it's tough getting started but once you get the ball rolling it's rather liberating to be honest. I'll keep my eyes peeled for your work on this board. ;)

starting this, trying to keep things simple

>>2994377
got a link for that pencil line brush ma man?>>2994117
I love this how do you achieve this texture?

>>2994392
I saved the photo from a porn site 'cause I thought it looked cool.
It's a pretty stupid reasoning now that I think of it, thanks for pointing it out.

>>2994413
It's a very simple one, but Iike it.
>https://www.davidrevoy.com/article326/krita-brushes-charcoal-pencils

>>2994377
yea. scary looking picture happens a lot to pictures with smiling girls, it happens.

values are waaay off.
hair isn't as dark as it should be.
shadows for the face are too dark.
skin isn't light enough.
fix her left shoulder, raise it a little higher so that its at the same level of her mouth because your perspective is inaccurate.

it doesn't look horrible but you need to finish your rough draft of the whole picture before blocking in color/shading because you will throw yourself off.

i'm kinda stuck on hair texture, any tips?
I'll fix her chin too, looks pretty big.
Other than that, what else am I missing?

>>2994457
top of head looks too small. hair doesn't look as volumunous. and yeah the chin looks messed up.

>>2994441
Thanks for the insight. It's pretty cool when criticism actually motivates to draw more.

>>2994457
It seems the trouble you're encountering now go all the way back to your initial lay-in. Do you use straight lines to envelope your drawing before you add depth? Straights are easier to judge angles and proportions on.
Check out Bargue's plates.

Also it could benefit from more planar definition, her eye is sliding to her side plane.

One of my final pieces, what doi you think

>>2992821
I think this is the finish
>>2993720
many thanks
>>2993776
oh it's just a graphite pencil
charcoal for experienced artists
>>2993734
Loomis is a very weak manual for drawing.
Drawing from life is very different from that taught by Loomis.
At the moment I can not formulate the method of my work, I just do it as a teacher teaches me.

>>2994497
I would very much like to learn how you get that style of rendering. Are you using several graphite pencils or just one?

Also, do you use the eraser a lot?

I did this
>>2994345
I'm happy with it, but I would rather want that refined look you got going there. I used a mechanical HB 1.3mm pencil and eraser. I like it, but it has that grainy, iffy texture to it. Might be the paper, tho... Your paper looks very smooth.. that might have something to do with it?

Your style is very nice and refined, I like it!

>>2994252
That makes a lot of sense, thank you. Also, now I'm mad that someone already painted the exact same thing but better

>>2993227
>>2993721
alright lads. Which one?

That's a sketch I did for the tower girl thread. Trying to practice a lot on perspective, but struggling a bit. Any tips?

>>2994689
The right one. (I'm not one of them.)

drew this guy

>>2994926
she got no neck

Album cover for a friend of mine.

I'm trying to sketch out season 0 Yugi, in a cartoony kind of style, I'm trying to work out the rust.
I'm noticing that hes looking very stiff, how cold i fix that? any critique?

I am working on the old Yugi from season 0 of Yu-Gi-Oh.
I'm struggling with making him not look so stiff.
Any suggestions/ critique?

I'm getting back into painting, after a couple months or so busy with my dissertation

Finished this one a couple days ago

Working on this one, and it just looks kind of boring and off. The red cloak is sitting on a very high chair, and there will be a procession of small people leading up the steps. I get the sense that something about the values is off, but I'm not sure what. Help/advice?

>>2995103
The problem is that you got darks against darks, there is no contrast for the character. a white marble throne would make the red really pop, instead you are losing it to the darks.

>>2995106
Ah, I see. I'll put that in next draft. I'm also having some issue with the slice of bg cutting down on the left side of the piece. Should I keep it or omit that part? If I should keep it, how can I fix it to make it look better?

>>2995004
This has a Juan gimenez vibe, I like it

>>2995108
Put a "rules of third" grid on top of it, can you make it align to one of the lines it can give you a nice effect, the stairs however kinda bother me as they exit the frame.

>>2994976
beginner thread

>>2995114
I was thinking that(after Ro3-ing it like you suggested) I could make the stair smaller, and thinner. You think that would help make it less annoying to look at, because it bothers me too

Critique?

>>2995129
>When he thinks there are rules

>>2994614
No worries, he probably stole the idea from someone else.

>>2995129
Nice edge control.
Isn't there a bit of a shadow under his jaw on the ref? It's blending together which makes his head look like a giant worm.

not really sure what i'm doing with colours.

need a bit of help with the colours here. been staring at it for too long. is it too peachy?

4h. Mudbox sculpt. This program is fucking shit for sculpting. Zbrush is so much better... At least I tried.

>>2995182
>>>/3/?

>>2995195

... the fuck? I didn't know this board existed! Thanks man! Is this a new thing or what? I used to hang out here like 6 years ago and I came back this spring. Cool.

>>2994949
Was trying for an upward view. Oh god I need to practice.

>>2995198
Well, not new, but probably like 6 or so years ago.

WIP, i feel there's is something wrong about the direction of the pipe is facing, maybe i should fix it. Also don't know how to handle the negative space in the lower left corner, HELP

Will you guys hold my hand through this?

I have to make a SWAT guy and I don't know how to make him look interesting cause his outfit is all black and its already really dark.
Should I make the fabric on his costume a different color than the armor? Which should be darker?

I have like four or five hours to finish this.

>>2995384
Make the swat guy stand out instead having him blend with the darkness.

>>2995394
He has to blend into the the bottom of him has to blend into the background so that way the composition is cut off in like a circle/diamond shape. Should I make the rest of him brighter?

>>2995356
I think it looks fine, Maybe make the pipe smaller at the end that's highest so that way its more foreshortened? I think it would be like that.

>>2995398
Then paint the outer line of him brighter to bring out the shape

>>2994953
Camt read it bro

I'm probably going to get trashed on but why not post this I guess.

>>2995308
Yeah you probably should learn how to do that perspective. I'm not one to talk since my art pretty much looks the same as your in that perspective but I'm sure there's a guide somewhere.

>>2995129
based image

>>2995384
Problem:

>I have to make a SWAT guy and I don't know how to make him look interesting cause his outfit is all black and its already really dark.
Should I make the fabric on his costume a different color than the armor? Which should be darker?

Solution:
You can solve this by differentiating the materials of the uniform. They may be the same (or similar) color, but you can still add variation by making some matte (plastic, uniform fabric) some reflective (gloss plastic, metal), adding varying shapes, some elements that are different color (unit badge, lettering on the back) and so on.

The PROBLEM with the Solution:

You will not be able to accomplish the above, because the subject matter does not match your current skill level. You will fail at differentiating the materials, because you haven't spent many hours painting still life paintings of different material objects. You don't know how to depict a glossy thing, a matte thing etc. This is only one of your problems. Do you see how you have no value hierarchy in your illustration? How the trees end and suddenly the grass starts (belonging to a vastly different color and value family)? How the grass right next to the glowing guy is the same brightness as the grass far away from him? You don't know how to depict those things, because you never painted a landscape in plen-aire, or even studied any movie screenshots or landscape photographs. You are even too lazy to grab a toy gun or a broomstick and shoot some photo ref to have a decent pose of the swat guy. And even if you weren't, you couldn't use the reference properly, because, again, you haven't spent many hours practicing life drawing. Now, you can learn and accomplish a successful illustration by:

>>2995504>>2995384
option one: studying the subjects outlined above with the purpose of studying, and after maybe 2-5 years knock it out just the way you want

option two: trying to produce artwork you don't have the skill for, banging your head against the wall and spinning your wheels for many years, until finally accepting option one.

You know who really makes it? The people who do a lot of boring stuff (studies, as opposed to artwork) with the long term goal in mind. Those unable to delay gratification (producing artwork and harvesting money/likes/whatever) are doomed to thrash in confusion and either give up or learn to delay gratification. Good luck, you can do it!

>I have like four or five hours to finish this.

But in four years, not hours.

>>2995505
My mantra.

Friends ask to see my work, but it's all just piles of uninteresting studies. It's embarrassing to not have any big "landmark" works to show off, but I keep grinding those fundamentals instead.

3 years deep, I hope we're both right.

>>2995518
It's good to make an illustration from time to time, you don't have to be so strict. I wrote it that way, because people usually go to the other extreme.

Calling it a day on this one

>>2995543
the mood is good and it's a nice illustration, but design-wise the most interesting part to me is the jungle above, the snakes are just fat columns (could be much more interesting shapes) and it's unclear whether this is some kind of lair entrance or just a wall with a drawing on it
you also use too much white imo

>>2995543
Solid. Ssssssssssssolid.

>>2995543

Good one, I like it, looks very professional. Maybe think about adding some more dimension to the central glyph, maybe something with space above it and below foliage? Like you know, add more shadow there to accentuate that there's a slope and the glyph is was made by material removal of the stone wall.

But idk, don't suggest yourself too much with me, I'm really /beg/ tier. 5/5, would put into Tomb Raider concept art.

>>2995543
eh i prefer version on the OP, you kinda over did the details and ruined the edges,why is there an additional layer of atomspheric light in the midground, theres a good flow in your op image but now its so saturated with light it just loses focus, shame.

>>2995465
Yeah I think I'll use egg a lot and try out some videos. Should've learned this stuff before learning to colour.

>>2995633
Ah perhaps. Just out of interest, what do you mean by egg?

>>2995504
that looks so good i don't even care about the reaming you just gave me

>>2995596
>>2995633
Shit, I feel like I'll never get this right

>>2995615
Thanks for the suggestions. I won't change it anymore, though. Has been paid and sent off.

>>2995605
Thanks

>>2995543
How do I learn to paint environments?

>>2995678
Man I don't know. Do lots of studies I would say.
A fun thing to do is taking two different environment references and trying to combine their traits in a single image. That helped me a lot.

If you need stuff to study, here is my dropbox:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/obtpxoz9aul0x48/AADbBnc4wbN9aNPNLrqkk8kza?dl=0

>>2995685
Thanks, I'll give my best shot.

>>2992115
excuse the terrible sketch and possible anatomy issues I'm gonna cover her anyway, but can anyone tell me if the perspectives retarded please?
trying to get a slightly top down angle

>>2994405
first general colour pass, i think i'm gonna darken the background a bit more

>>2995613
the face in profile really betrays your lack of understanding of form. you don't understand what you are looking at yet. that doesn't come with "anatomy practice" or whatever vague shit /ic/ usually recommends that's going to come with drawing observationally and understanding what it is you are drawing. It can help to try to draw what you are looking at in a different perspective to make your mind try to understand exactly what it is you are looking at with the information your eyes are giving you.

>>2994345
no pointers?

>>2995993
see
>>2995991

>>2994345
bit hard to see, but looks okay. i think you slightly animed your proportions, unless you have a tiny chin and huge eyes.

the rendering is all fine, could be better,you may want to think about the 'head egg' a bit more when you're doing the tones. i know this portrait is probably mostly very observational, but it's worth checking against the concept just to make sure you're getting a sphere and not something that looks like light relief.

over-all is very promising, keep it up.

>>2995997
ok, fair enough. noted

>>2996009
Yeah, the eyes are way to large, but I had to wrap it up at some point, or I would never have finished it. The chin, sadly, is pretty accurate. focusing more on the actual forms will be a priority next time, as the post above also stated. This was very much just copying the value shapes and not focusing on the actual 3d forms that much. thanks!

>>2996118
could be using a bigger brush for a lot of that.

>>2995004
I love you Daniel. I'm liking this Mullins like brushwork from your late works

>>2995685
another anon but thank you very much! environments are definitely my weakness.

>>2995160
Here's the reference.

>>2995129
>>2996206
You made it look even better than the image.

>>2996134
Make sure that the facial features are aligned and learn how to draw eyes.

I'm looking for advice/critique on my brush strokes. I used only a hard brush by the way. Im new to digital painting and am not sure if i am going about blending the right way or not

>>2996255
the ref for reference

>>2996255
it's the wrong way
your brushstrokes are too small and come off as chicken scratchy, use fewer bigger strokes and blend with color picker

>>2996271

blend with color picker? what do you mean? im using corel painter btw.

Today I learned I don't know how to color sunsets

>>2996302
ref, as you can see the whole sky is a mess in mine

>>2996302
how are you getting your brush strokes to follow the perspective? pen tilt? like on the ground especially

>>2996274
search sinix on youtube
he uses painter

>>2996334
It's called a palette knife brush, mine is a really ghetto setup from a gnomon video of a guy 10 years ago. Basically just a really flat elliptical tip with angle set to pen tilt.

>>2996334
Not him but you can just set up the initial strokes with with a perspective rule and then paint along them afterwards if you are having those problems.

>>2996255
Block in the entire image with the value that is closest to the background. Then block in the values of the face, hair, torso, etc.

Use a big brush to do it. You can use texture as well, but it's not necessary to.

>>2995668
Thanks, I tried. Please understand, what I wrote was never meant to discourage you. It's just that I was once where you are, and I took option two for some years. I consider them wasted and would rather you avoided that fate, hence the tough love approach.

>>2995409 It's Greek

Tried to make the back features more prominent.

>>2996512
That...Looks really creepy to me anon. What's your reference?

>>2996518
Creepy? The eyes?

>>2995868

>>2992115
not back, just came to check if brian is still delusional and others are still doing "studies".

>>2996255
FLOW OPACITY

>>2995543
I'm not an expert, but i made a few changes you may or may not like. The image colors were all pretty same-y like the forest, ruin walls, snakes, and water all kinda looked like similar hues so they all sort of blended together. There wasn't enough contrast separating the snakes from the walls and the flowers didn't really catch attention. Basically added more contrast and fucked with the hue/saturation a bit.

>>2996219
Alright. Thanks a lot, anon.

>>2996662
this is worse, just no

>>2996670
gr8 input
>>2996662
I think this works a lot better, I like the isolated highlights on the snakes' heads instead of the general ambient light, and punching up the contrast on the wall and emblem thing really makes them stand out.

>>2996662
Awful. Every change you made is for the worse.

What do you think?

>>2996468
the colours are great!

>>2995965
i like it

>>2996690
stay in /beg/

>>2995504
>>2995505
>has spent 4 years on studies
>produces that
>tells others to spend 5 in the angstiest most frustrated way possible
Are you okay?

>>2992248
lol that's usopp

>>2995965
adding details and stuff, now there's just the character to finish and some frills to add, i suppose

>>2996701
thanks, my dude

>>2996662
You overworked it and started over-emphasizing the things that weren't working instead of fixing them. Recall the paintover and notes I did for you in the previous thread. Also you blasted up the contrast and killed the depth.

>>2996749
>Recall the paintover and notes I did for you in the previous thread
The person you're replying to is not the artist - just some nub trying to help. Work on your reading comprehension, nerd.

>>2996468
really nice, great colors, pretty good perspective. the only thing that bothers me is the chair leg looks like its apart of the teachers hand. there is no depth to distinguish distance between them. it comes from the perspective being wrong, look at the bottom leg and how it curves, then look at how the it looks bent as it goes up into the top part of the leg.

Working on this atm. Not sure how to make her body and hand. Also if you guys see anything else wrong let me know

>>2996118

that bagina though

I have an updated photo I just finished this, added some shadows and what not, need to upload it to my comp later.

>>2996730
I'm sure you could do better, but

Your wrist is injured atm

Or

Your tablet's at the shop

Or

It's beneath you.

Talk is cheap and easy, and anyone can do it. Demonstrate or stfu, at least I helped him.

>>2996872
>le post work
>I helped him (uh dude if you draw for five years you'll improve, good luck!)
I think you should get help; all those studies must have melted your brain.

>>2996858

What you are trying to convey? Placement of her hand is pretty crucial. If you want to go for "Don't worry, stay with me" route she should entagle him or at least be in a position where she could apply pressure to stop him from going forward.

I have some propositions, based also on reference online http://bfy(dot)tw/C2Ls :

- grab under his pecks in a wide hug and connect with other hand in the centre of a chest just below

- hand goes in the centre of the chest, resting behind the material and over naked skin, is partially obscured, it's curled a little

- hand grabs his boob/peck like you'd grab woman, place her other hand on his hip/just above it

- hand grabs his shoulder tightly

I'd also adjust her position, as you have drawn her she seems distanced too much from him, should be "glued" a lot closer to him. Remember to give detail to where her chin touches his shoulder, also around fingers and palm because it will be biggest carrier of expression in this piece.

Tweak her position generally, I'm also not convinced her head would be straight like that and placed in that area.

I personally am for her hand to grab his shoulder because with this you can also interlock her hand with his biceps and girls seem to like to do that, feel the manly hand etc.

>>2996768
>>2996749
Quoted the wrong post, but my criticism is still the same.

bones

>>2994457
Get out of here von Habsburg

>>2996900
I take it you think there is a better way to improve, then? Care to share your superior strategies?

>>2996944
No, of course anyone that draws for five years will improve; you spent two posts to say nothing. Very frustratedly. As though venting. Once again, are you okay?

>>2996953
dude go draw or something instead of trolling jfc

>>2996742
this is done enough, i think.

>>2996941
i like this! lower half could use a little more refinement/definition since it's a little vague, though i'm sure you already knew that. the cloak could also use some folds to help break up the form, i think.

>>2997015
=^|

drew this today

>>2997378
not bad, needs more or less shading I cant tell which

the shading you did is alright, but when its not applied to things like her hair and arms it looks weird

you got flat colors (not bad) right up against parts that have gradients (boobs/face& hands )

>>2997378
Rendering is far too stark in the nasal area. It seems as though you're using gray/black to darken there, when you ought to be using darker tones of the same colour. Unless you're going for some weird eyeshadow thing, but then why are her eyelids so light? Also, I don't see why you extended the shading so far beyond her nostrils; shading is supposed to communicate the depth and form of the subject, so I recommend you give a bit more thought as to what form you're trying to communicate in the naso-labial area. It's getting darker the closer one gets to the tip of her nose, when it should actually be catching more light than the bridge.

>>2996800
thanks for pointing that out, that leg was supposed to be foreshoterned, but i think the lighting makes it look bent. Fixed the lighting on that leg and also moved his hand so the area doesn't look confused.
Also i tried something, i removed most of the linework for the bg and make them just paint. Don't know it that works better or not.

>>2997435
very nice, it looks better and the leg doesnt bother me as much. i think the background looks amazingly better without the line work! awesome job anon, youre an inspiration to us all.

Right, think I'm done with this

>>2997435
I really like the bg without linework as well

>>2997435
I really love the stuff you do. Do you take inspiration from any artist in particular?

>>2993263
Shadow

>>2997528
not bad, lad

>>2997530
thanks

uff

>>2997580

Did you use layers for this? I'm looking for a 1 layer painting technique

>>2994413

Not OP, but its likely just a noise filter.

>>2996468
I wish it was a window in the background with sunset illuminating the room in warm colors like here.

>>2996662
Looks unnatural on my monitor, and I'm pretty sure my color settings are cool.

:shrug: rip me apart I Guess

Am I any good? I used to draw a lot when I was a kid, but for the last 20 years or so, I rarely ever pick up a pen or pencil and draw. The last "good" thing I drew was probably 5 years ago. I'm always told by people that I'm really good, but I tend to be a tough critic on myself, and think I'm pretty mediocre. Definitely above average, but that's about it.

Prometheus...

>>2997031
whats up with the bike to body skill discrepancy?

>>2996468
If there's one thing that bothers me, it's how low those desks are. They're low, but they're not that low, anon.

>>2997630
If you didn't expect someone you know to draw then that would be good it's full of wobbly proportions/perspective. You seem to have the right idea of shading it out first and getting the overall perspective and proportions right though.

Just some ideas. The back engines look too detached. Maybe try some thin black outline on some of it. And try to add some strong shadows to ground it, it's easy, fast and can add a lot if done right.

>>2997630
If you didn't expect someone you know to draw then that would be good but to me it's full of wobbly proportions/perspective. You seem to have the right idea of shading it out first and getting the overall perspective and proportions right though.

Just some ideas. The back engines look too detached. Maybe try some thin black outline on some of it. And try to add some strong shadows to ground it, it's easy, fast and can add a lot if done right.

>>2996953
> you spent two posts to say nothing

I wrote two posts accompanied by a visual demonstration. Those two combined carry some information intended for the author of the original illustration, which, judging by his/her response was of some use to them. If you were interested in drawing, you'd understand. Seems to me you're more of a writing kind of guy, so I can see how that could confuse you.

> you spent two posts to say nothing. Very frustratedly. As though venting.

LOL, my sweet, innocent child. Just wait until you start getting hired in the real world and get client feedback. Oh, wait, you won't, because you don't draw, "le post work" frightens you.

i want to get gud at colours

Im getting back into drawing again after 7 long years. Wanting a cheaper end tablet to start on. What should I get wanting to spend 100$ or less?

>>2997724
wacom intuos small or a bamboo if u can find one

>>2997724
huion so you aren't stuck with a tiny fucking wacom small

>>2997469
I like your use of flat brush and natural colors. The rocky formations lack depth and variation - the same level of detail and values all across.

tear me to shreds
I dont know how to color. Do i start with gurney? or would you guys recommend something else?

Playing with brush settings.

>>2997815
this is a sad kron copy
its pathetic in so many ways i dont even know man.
learn your fundies. find your own style.

it's finally finished

>>2997625
i don't have to. you already ripped it yourself.

>>2997814
That's a good point, I got slammed hard over those yesterday. I honestly need to practice painting rocks.

>>2998053
Alright, you win. Here's an edited version I made to get rid of the ripped marks.

Im addicted on doing little sketches, its so fun

>>2997700
Could you post your ref?

>>2998045
lol

>>2998045
Is this specific piece heavily influenced by Kron? Yes
Does this mean i'm not spending 10x the time you are on my fundies every day? No, I'm working hard as fuck.
Are you incapable of actually critiquing my piece? Yes.

>>2998048
Looks like quite good photocopy although you fucked up color of the water. Probably some weird stylistic choice, I feel it doesn't fit the hyperrealistic style.
Otherwise really bland and boring as most hyperrealistic paintings tends to be.

>>2998244
Fuck you. My works rival even the likes of Adolf Hitler. I am a master of MSPaint.

>>2997700
Everything is muddled together. Use some sharper edges to help define forms from one another.

Redrew an old drawing.

FUCK THIS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>2992967
shit.

you're going for over exposure of the light, but your image is garbage

>>2996662
damn u fucked that up lmao

>>2997700
>>2998270
Forgot to attach pic related

>>2998316
Congratulations, you made it worse.

Edge between light and shadow should be sharp only where's bone or cast shadow from a different object (especially when dealing with this natural, soft lighting). Pic related, no sharp edges between light and shadow side.

And your hair suck.

>>2994117
this is autism.

>>2997435
this is disturbing, please stop posting this.

>>2998005
what is that skin cancer?

>>2997435
Can you make the girls a bit younger

>>2998381
It's lupus.

>>2998381
Gingervitis

Another study

Another study

>>2998488
terrible.

nothing but terribleness. no weight no expression. take a fucking picture idiot

>>2997435
awkward fantasy.

>>2997469
you're not feng. stop trying.

>>2998283
nice work!!!

>>2998507
>take a fucking picture idiot
what did he mean by this?

>>2998510
my career as a concept artist is ruined because of you

>>2997656
dorp

colour study

>>2998381
>>2998507
>>2998510
>stop trying.

I sense a lot of impotent anger.

>>2998387
>>2998510

But under aged fuckable girls are encouraged. You guys are thread cancer.


>>2998488

I think you caught the feeling well here and it shows better in the thumbnail but if it is heavy rain I would expect the upper sky to be darker even if it is daytime.

>>2998566
Reminds me of Matthew Hollister's work, nice. Background gets a little too close in color and temperature to the face though.

I'm trying to avoid pillow shading on this, but I'm having some trouble establishing a convincing light source. Any advice?

>>2998591
>thread cancer.

4chan is THE ROOT OF ALL cancer.

>>2998566
illustrat, take note of this

>>2996118
I'm the guy that painted this.

Can some people clear something up for really quick?
I'm a noobie to digital painting so whats the deal with leaving Transfer on for some things but not for the other?
Like I didn't put transfer on but I did mess around with the flow a lot in my study, cause I heard you're not supposed to use pressure sensitivity if you're not drawing? But some people here are?

Can someone explain this?

Made this one awhile back.

>>2998642
it looks hideous

another one

>>2998627
>cause I heard you're not supposed to use pressure sensitivity if you're not drawing? But some people here are?

No rules, just tools. The goal is to achieve a certain look and if you found a way to achieve that look then it isn't a wrong way to do it to use pressure sensitivity. Just practice to play around with it and you will find different ways to reach the same result.

>>2998643
Ah c'mon it has a cool aesthetic (no pun intended).

>>2998678
yeah for sure dude, neon vaporwave garbage definitely wasn't played out 5 years ago

>>2998685
some of us born in the 80s appreciate the nostalgia

>>2998644
>>2998642
These are both interesting because they would improve immensely from just a tiny bit of studying. Just look at a real person wearing a clothing and draw them, analyze how the folds work and shit. It's not just a bunch of random squiggles, there's a rhyme and a reason to the way cloth will bunch up. I'm not saying it has to be realistic since that's obviously not the style you're going for, but in order to stylize convincingly you need to know how things work at a surface level, at least.

>>2998648
Well its just that others have said you shouldn't use pressure sensitivity, if you're painting cause you can't control the colours properly. I dunno, thanks man

>>2998488
Tried to indicate zones of light and shadow better, I know it's a quick fix and not as good as actually painting them in properly, but somebody let me know if this is an improvement over the previous version or not, because I can't tell.

Also darkened the sky following that anon's advice.

>>2998743
Sometimes chaos is a desired effect. But you shouldn't use it randomly everywhere.

It's in the brush strokes.

Here's a drawing of mine.

>>2996468
Oh I'm glad you posted this again, I wanted to ask for your blog right when I saw the sketch.

The coloring is good, but not very expressive, almost as if you wanted to make the scene feel cold and non intimate. Maybe a bit less contrast in the background and some more interesting light setup could help?
Like a dimmer, more diffused light, fluorescent light reflections on the white board to add depth, or even a warm light from late afternoon sun coming from a window (maybe left off-screen) - ya know, to make it seem like it's after class when others have gone home, but not this little cutie.

Anyways, love it, you post your work anywhere?

>>2998363
He didn't do a superb work, but it definitely isn't worse. The hard edges aren't used correctly, true, but he managed to lock the focal point on her shoulder, which is something the painting desperately needed.
A balance between hard and soft edges is a valid point.

I don't understand your mentality though.
Even if it was the worst redraw ever, it's another anon putting forth effort, so why be such an ass about it? If you demotivate this kind of people, what do you think this board is left with?

>>2998746
pretty ;-;

How long did that take you? I'm too afraid to paint city scenes cause they look like they'd take forever.

>>2998295
chill anon its looking good, i like the subtleties

>>2998908
Roughly 3 hours, but it's very much a rush job. If you don't care for having a detailed scene you can hint at textures and volumes and save a lot of time. And you can probably do it a lot better than I did (notice how some of the stuff on the leftmost windows isn't even aligned).

>>2998295
The better question is why you draw at this low of a res

>>2998295
keep those eyes aligned, his face is melting. make sure to flip your canvas horizontally every now and then so you can see it with fresh eyes

>>2998930
noooo dude you made it worse.

>>2998918
Wow that's not nearly as long as I thought it would take.
Do you use the marquee tool to make the sharp edges or do you just use a really square brush? I've always wondered this

>>2998941
You are beyond help.

>>2998295
WHAT ARE YOU DRAWING THERE FRIEND

>>2998295
WHAT ARE YOU DRAWING THERE FRIEND

>>2998295
that right eye is fucked up lol. Is he supposed to have an extra chromosome or something?

>>2998950
This was done just with a square brush, and the windows were done on a separate layer with a clipping mask (so I can block in the places where they are, then paint a bunch of perpendicular lines to actually detail them)

Marquee is still super useful, I just didn't have an occasion to use it here. I'm not very good at defining forms with light and it's definitely something I need to work on.

>>2998930
>>2998960
Valid point, but you overcorrected.

>>2992248
leg hairs are really uniform for some reason, but other than that this is a nice character design. it may be a bit complicated for a comic though. consider the fact that you have to redraw this guy dozens, if not hundreds of times, simplify the design in places to make drawing this guy more manageable. that is, unless you are dead set on this design as is.

>>2995543
such a missed opportunity to turn the walls themselves into several snakes, but otherwise this is fantastic. maybe make the jungle above a bit more visible too, it would be nice to contrast the uneven jungle with the uniformity of a snake lair.

>>2999006
I'm not the first poster though. I think you are the one who over reacted. They guy tried to put some effort into giving some critique and your response is just to act edge and pretend we can only be sarcastic and ironic. I honestly have no idea why half the people who comment in here even spend their time on /ic/. They would probably fit better in at /i/.

>>2999026
I'm just an observer lol, the previous posts weren't me.

>>2997728
>>2997764
which is better?

>>2999030
Why would that matter? Those two were still not made by the same person. You should observe your own actions a bit more instead.

>>2999039
I think there's a misunderstanding, literally all I've said in this thread is that the correction the first anon proposed to the OP was valid but too strong.

>>2992115
Haven't drawn in a few months. Trying to get back into it. Currently drawing one of my old characters from some years ago.

>>2999067
I dig the attempt at making it 3d and actually minding forms. However, your linework needs some serious work, and I'd concentrate on it more to get rid of that chicken scratch.

>>2998048
>tfw too retarded to tell if this is fake or not

>>2999089
I agree. My linework needs some major improvement.

>>2994926
It looks like you've drawn multiple pieces of her on a straight on perspective (especially the face) and then just squished them together in an attempt to show a worms eye view. Try to understand how the forms change shape and which areas become visible/not as the body tilts backwards for a lower viewing point.

>>2995004
Some of the proportions around the arms/torso seem off? Also the foreshortening of her forearm needs work

>>2995180
I think there is too much white to have a really good sense of the colours. Colour requires context. Try filling in the negative space with a place holder colour or something while painting if you're dead set on having the white background.

>>2995455
Has a few problems but the most glaringly obvious is the hands - could definitely benefit from some work. Try studying some hand anatomy for a while then come back to it

>>2995948
Covering the character in clothing/armor doesnt make anatomy issues acceptable, you should be trying to fix them regardless. Also, it helps you learn so why not! Regarding the perspective, it looks very straight on at the moment, adding a ground plain will likely help you visualize it. Think about how the forms stack on top of each other and look from the top, and also think about how the forms will hide pieces of the body underneath them.

>>2999003
I see, thanks, I always thought that you would need to use it and thats another thing that deterred me from scenes like that. It seems like it could be really tedious.
It looks really nice, I think its the color palette that makes it really lovely. The gestural paint strokes are nice too.

>>2999060
>>2999039
>>2999030
>>2999026

I'm so confused. I was the person to say that you made it worse, you responded that I was beyond help. I was not the person who drew the image.
Now you guys are both talking and I don't know which one of you is the asshole who thought I was beyond help.

The person who fixed it did over correct and made him look like, ugly and bird eyed with his eyes too close together.
I was looking at it on my phone screen though and after see it on the web I think that in the original picture the eye was slid over a little too much to the left.

>>2999201
dumbass

>>2998849
>(Anon A): hey guy, you should fix your picture this way
>(Anon B): actually this way is incorrect
>(You): hey (Anon B) stop being mean ;_;

You're an overly sensitive faggot. If you can't deal with the idea that your shitty critique will be criticized, then you really need to grow some thicker skin. And a real artist won't be demotivated by some criticism; only casuals who aren't passionate about improving will leave because of it. And this kind of loss would make /ic/ a better place.

>>2994466
Great

>>2998488
Composition could be better but good job, I like it

>>2992327
I like your idea but I made a few tasteful changes that I think really resonate with people