/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

How do you study using a reference photo? Do you just put the reference picture on one side of the screen and then draw on the other side?

Just starting out, this is my first portrait. Someone do the red line thing.

No bully.

>>2992868
very bad read the sticky needs more loomis etc. etc.

>>2992868
Either your horizon line is off or she's so high up you can see the curvature of the earth

>>2992868
where are your eyebrows bitch? read the sticky

>>2992868
What the fuck is going on with the chest here, I'd redline it but I think it's hopeless.

>>2992873
Hey, maybe the horizon is actually lower and what we see in the background is a hill. Or we don't see the horizon due to the mist. Sure, he needs some work on his values and facial elements (oh, and the boobs aren't big enough), but overall, it's not bad for a beginner.

>>2992868
Keep it up, anon, you'll eventually make it!

>>2992868
SYMBOL DRAWING

Try reading Keys to Drawing.

r8 my disgustingly-unorganized workflow

>>2992892
welcome to EB GAMES

>>2992892
Because there's no background/story other than a crow it can be jarring to see such contrast. Using the whole range of black-white values is good but having something like an environment to relate it to is even better.

>>2992877
You're going to look back on those drawings one day and feel very ashamed

Not because you're still a beginner, but because of the content on them.

Does anyone notice certain quirks or habits they have when it comes to drawing?

For me, I tend to make the head too big and I will most often default to a 3/4th pose

>>2992931
I'm still a beginner but I've been told I always draw pouty lips. Maybe I'm being influenced by Kaneko or something.

>>2992931
>> I will most often default to a 3/4th pose
'Coz "muh 3D."
I also tend to fuck up mouths constantly.

>>2992940
I basically just fuck the head up constantly. The entire head. I don't think I've ever made a good head that I was satisfied with.

How do you get better at judging proportions? Do you just grind drawing with photo references? Are there any other exercises?
I sketched myself with the help of a photo I took today. I was quite satisfied with it but there were slight proportion mistakes, so I'd like to get better.

>>2992971
Draw one shape from the image you're referencing and then take measurements of that shape on your reference with a pencil to build a cubit with which to measure the proportional distamcee

>>2992921
Two types of people in /beg/ - those who are actively trying to improve and those who want to post whatever. If he's content with drawing shitty who cares if he's having fun with it?

>>2992868
The mona lisa isn't even that good desu
Look at her lumpy puffy face with no eyebrows and her dumb smirk 0/10

I'm pretty new and I bought the cheap $99 maplebux wacom intuos. Literally the cheapest one since I'm poor. Did I fuck? I've heard the small drawing surface will fuck me but couldn't I just zoom out in the software?

>>2993047
>Did I fuck?
I don't know senpai did you fuck?

>>2993048
I dunno man you tell me.

>>2993049
Well you didn't fuck if you just use it for painting if you plan on using it for actually drawing then you kinda fucked because drawing on a small tablet is fucking awkward at least for me

>>2993047
i hope you've been practicing your fundamentals on paper/pencil for some months at least

>>2993054
I bought it from amazon so at least I can return it if it's too awkward to draw on. It's also cheap enough that I won't feel too bad replacing it with a bigger one if I do end up becoming more serious.
>>2993056
I've been studying keys to drawing and loomis on paper, I just find digital more appealing so I went ahead and got something cheap.

Hello first time here on this board a wrote a short 72 page story a pretty good one in fact the thing is that i think it would be way better as a comic the other thing is i draw like shit.
I am still learning but here is the question is there any way i can contact myself with an artist i together make the comic?

>>2993058
Almost everyone here finds digital appealing. The point is to make sure your baseline skills are to a level where you won't feel uncomfortable on a tablet since it takes harder to improve on digital as it is on traditional.

>>2993073
You don't have the money for a good artist.
But don't worry. Success of One Punch Man, Kaiji, Blame, etc. proves that you can draw like shit and still make it in a comic world if your story is interesting.

>>2993077
Those all have unique cohesive styles though, they're not just "drawn bad"

>>2993077
Well it would be a passion project and honestly i was thinking about going to the local college close to here and try to talk with artists, im a med school student i have still 4 years to graduate so i may improve in 4 years i dont know but thanks for the encouragement

>>2993081
Sadly as you can see by the picture i have a very ametuerish style also i write stories on the sidr my main goal is to finish med school but trying to make this comic come true would be a great hobby

keep on truckin

>>2993097
Ty doggo

>>2993097
thanks dog

>>2993074
Thanks for the advice, I will keep practicing on traditional media while I get used to doing things digitally. I probably won't stop doing sketches and stuff on paper anyways.

>>2993085

How about doing a webtoon?

http://www.webtoons.com/en/

>>2992892

I like the sketch better. The rendering have too much contrast.

>>2993119
Im sorry i did not specify it would be great as a web comic.
Also i have some 3000 dollar that i would waste on it do you think i could comission like a 15 page comic with this money?

Trying out charles barque i hope i didn't need to read the first 20 pages because I'd probably take me days just gonna study the stuff

Can I get a critique on this please?

>>2993163
rotate
resize
read the sticky
take your time

photoshop tips? i only know how to use layers... and not to any great effect, either. im working on this one from ref and am struggling with her skintone. the ref is yuka kinoshita, she has a mukbang channel on youtube. shes got these really red cheeks that im failing to capture.

meh, give me pointers.

>>2993171

finally passed the asvab, I can start drawing again with my free time. I feel so refreshed anons, i'm finally drawing for fun now. because i love it. have these quick minute sketches! hang in there dicks.

>>2992848
Here's a sketch that I did just now How did I do?

>>2993174
Soft watercolor brush (opacity controlled by pen pressure), layer in multiply/linear burn/huehuehue mode, some tone in-between pink and red.

>>2993193
a two-hour study is going to be more beneficial than three two-minute doodles

>>2992848
Quick 7 minute gesture. I think I'm getting better desu.

Begun working on a drawing of my new waifu....... DGBchan. She's going to make me a millionaire :3

Help meowt

These are Donald Trump's hands btw.

>>2993196
thank you spank you. That really does help.

Literally the first thing I ever seriously drew. The upside-down Igor thing. I've been really motivated to learn lately so I started Keys To Drawing after I finished this. I hope I can make it anons.

>>2993239
TWO

>>2992848
oh shit that's me

>>2993317
felt like you put some effort in and it didn't get noticed. got you brethren

>>2993179
You need more than pointers. Have you tried looking at references? You probably didn't. If you're at this level, there's no helping until you learn your anatomy.

>>2993338
and how should I do that?

>being casually drawing one picture a day for a week
>not master artist yet

am I going to make it lads!?

>>2993351
i laughed

>been doing nothing but figure drawing
how long did you guys figure draw before you got into muscle anatomy and stuff?

>>2993399
Mix it up if you feel like you're stagnating or need a break

>>2993344
read the sticky first. Use a reference next time.

Yo my faggots do you know any good digitala articulated manquins my fucking niggas.

should i just get a tablet? im scared to mark the paper when im practicing and it deters me from drawing gesture. i feel like having a drawing tablet would help me progress through iterative drawing, but they're so expensive.

is iterative drawing a fundamental thing for growth or should i wait until i get better to get a tablet?

>>2993437
Your art is shit nigga
Practice anon you have potential and wait a bit more for a tablet.
Learn the foundations.
Also suck a dick nigger

>>2993437
you're going to get worse because it's an unfamiliar medium and if you don't know what you're doing you're going to get frustrated and have buyer's remorse

the medium doesn't change your skill level, if you're shit then you're shit

o_e

>>2993437
you will never get better if you fear messing up that bad. A good artist has made so many mistakes in the past that they knpw what not to do. while you're not making art in fear that the line wont be good enough.
Try drawing something ugly on purpose. it can be liberating.

>>2993440
>>2993441
thx anons, ill keep practicing then

>>2992848
hey can you change #1 to "i recommend clipping tool" its better than sharex.

>>2993097
thank you

>>2993239
too big, breaks realism lol

Back to basics with head drawing

Is it okay to start off by using a tablet? I keep hearing mixed opinions.

>>2993557
Why would you want to? You can get a year's supply of pencil and paper for the same price as an "ok" tablet

>>2993557
You can do whatever you want. If you don't want to save months or years of frustration by not starting with a pencil and paper that's your choice.

>>2993560
Because I mainly want to focus on digital art

>>2993562
Can you elaborate? I've heard people say this but I've also heard people saying that getting used to a tablet is hard as fuck and that they wished they just started off digital, though they definitely could be in the minority.

I've been using paper for Keys to Drawing and drawabox stuff but I'm wondering if it's okay to mix in tablet practice alongside paper

>>2993571
You should probably learn to draw before you decide what your focus is going to be.

how do i draw anime

>>2993583
*blocks your path*

>>2993583
Watch Shirobako, it'll even explain why you'll never be a character designer and how you're an untalented piece of shit.

>>2993583
You trace it or the more socially acceptable term is an ink or a paint over

>>2993571
it's easier to learn on traditional

strimboy

I'm totally scraping the hair, save for the top on her forehead. I fixed the face position to match the eyes and then realized the hair was still drawn like it was viewed from the front. eyebrows do lessen the uncanny valley factor though.

>>2993690
I don't know about that. Sketching fundamentals, maybe, but the convenience of having a single tool that can do anything compared to hundreds of dollars of various pencils, pens, brushes, markers, paints, papers, canvases, etc... it kind of balances out pretty quickly. I guess it depends on what you have access to, how much cash your have to spend on your hobby, and how much work space you have, though.

>brian on /beg/ op pic
top kek

>>2993751
If you're just starting out you should definitely learn with traditional since you just need paper and a pencil or pen or any instrument. Investing in a tablet makes no sense unless you definitely know you're going to use it.

D'ya think this "sex symbol of the year" gurl needs some Loomis?

>>2993726
This expression is really unnerving. Coupled with weird shading (it's just like her face is made of burnt clay) and a really wide space between her eyes, it makes her look pretty unappealing. Would never hit 'er euphemistically.

>>2993744
Women have thinner eyebrows. My pic is actually a pretty moderate example. Good to see you gave her healthier skin tones, but I'd still go a bit further towards red. The nose actually needs it heavily, right now it has got necrosis. Don't infect her with the Tumblr Syndrome though.

Pic related,I'm doing a lot of copying, will doing these exercises help drawing from imagination in the long run or is there a different way to go about it because right now I'm trash at drawing from my head.

>>2993761

>>2993437
You don't need a tablet at all
Keep practicing and learning how to use a proper pencil, that's a priceless skill that most digital niggers would sell their souls to master

>>2993759
yeah I'll try to thin them out when I start rendering,
the nose is especially problematic since it totally sticks out from the rest of the drawing, it had a lot of post production editing to fix the angle and now it sticks out like a sore thumb

>>2993761
there is nothing wrong with drawing from a reference

Trying to do the dynamic sketching/drawabox stuff, I just can't get texture to look right, though. Is there anywhere I can see a lot of examples of it?

>>2992868
Just why is the mona lisa such a famous and well known painting?

>>2993826
her shit eating grin

>>2993826
Just look at those hands

>>2993826
Because a little over a hundred years ago it was stolen from the Louvre which got it all over the media which made it one of the most well known paintings among the general public.

>>2993277
I'm in the same boat, anon. Don't ever lose that motivation. I've became obsessed with drawing and have no idea why I didn't start sooner.

First atempt at full body male drawing, it looks stiff to me.

So how's the drawing?

Apparently the number of sheets of paper you've burned through isn't a good indicator of progress

>>2993761

How beginner are we talking here. I drew these based off a few references. Just trying to start off simple and get the poses down

>>2993889
damn

>>2992856

1.21 gigawatts! 1.21 gigawatts. Great Scott!

>>2993863
Pretty shit, kouhai.
The girl's body and limbs are so unnaturally thin, she looks like a cardboard figure. Even anorexic gals don't have anything like that, and the shapes imply that she has some meat on her bones, which is outright impossible. Her proportions are mostly horrendous, and the face... yeah, cymbals. You did much better with the chef, although you probably owe this relative success to his loose clothing. The face is still far from normal, and the lengths of each part of his arms vary abnormally.

Both bodies are stiff, yes, and their positions don't look natural/3D enough, but I'll let someone else explain that. There's also moderate chicken scratching, but that's less noticeable with all the bad proportions. Now, what you need is to closely study 3D references and memorize the form, then learn how to draw faces... no, actually, looking at the skull of your chef, you need to study heads as well.

https://sketchfab.com/models/e8813c9dc7764c9fb8bc956ff7543bba — basic female.
https://sketchfab.com/models/ea4c6664cb3f45cfba8fcd961e02d1de — slender female.

For faces and heads, any guide that lies closer to your intended goal. Your current stylization does not look good, although the expression of "disgust mixed with slight fear" on the girl's face could be considered a good attempt at expression (not a face). The cake and the man's clothing are still the best parts of the picture.

>>2993891
A complete beginner. Your aim in drawing these is unclear, but these doodles are neither barely decent gestures nor barely decent attempts at copying.

>>2993815
Just remember that lines aren't real. Draw the shadows and the texture will pop out, just like any other form.

Unless there's actually like a line painted on the surface.

Is the building too saturated for the background?

>>2993925
Saturation is technically ok, but the color of bricks seems too brown for convincing Kremlin's walls. In other words, I recommend to move the hue slider a bit towards red.

>>2993939
>>2993925
btw this is St. Basil's Cathedral and it isn't actually part of the kremlin

>>2993942
I have no idea how I didn't recognize it. My brain sure degenerates from sleep deprivation easily.
Well, I'm not a fan of churches and I barely ever paid any attention to it, but it seems the color is on the mark then.

>>2992850
Need to work more on my charcoal technique.

>>2993947
Not him, but I love the way you reply, Anon.

>so shit at proportions
>fuck it ill overlay loomis's proportion chart under it and just draw my shit over it
>still looks off as shit
kill me

>>2992850
Im at work so i only had like 10 mins, critique please

>>2994029
noice. the faceial features are crooked like a stroke victim, and the mouth looks little too big, but nothing to concerning. looks pretty good for 10 min doodle at work.

I'm still reading Loomis, and trying to set up the head from different angles. As you can see, though, nothing is solidified

>>2994066
I like that you're working hard on figuring your way through it though.

>>2994022
You'll make it, Anon! Failure is needed to succeed

>>2994022
>>2994085
Believe in me who believes in you!

>>2992849
I kinda suck at painting... and art.

Are there any books i can read to help improve in rendering, painting, values and etc. I'm drawing a comic and every bit of art "gainz" will help.

Also Critique I know it's a sketch and it's off a bit here and there, but i wanna see what's not obvious to me.

Why does using a reference feel as dirty as plain tracing? I'm pretty decent at it by now and have actually been accused of tracing, even though I wasn't. Like I know it makes my work 100 times better, but it's like fake talent, you know.

>>2994183
You use references to better understand what your drawing.

If you reference a pose, your gonna have to understand what's causing the persons body to move that way. Why the muscles contract and extend. Their center of gravity, how light effects the shadow, value and etc. How different sized people (Fat, Skinny, Lean or Muscular) look in that pose.

Hell if you feel referencing is dirty, THEN how the fuck are you gonna draw anything from real life...

you are REFERENCING real life after all...

>>2994183
if you didn't use ref you'd probably draw even less and post on 4chan even more

Ignore the eye, pressed too hard and it ripped a hole in the paper and ruined it.
Reference from the "hyper angle" book.

what do you think so far \ic\?
have i captured the likeness. I know the proportions are a bit off. I made the lips and eyes too big and the eyes might be out of sync.

>>2994183
you should maybe draw more fantasy / cartoony stuff on the side even if you don't have taste for it. makes it easier to defend yourself if you can show you can draw imaginative stuff just fine too

>>2994247
Where's the mole above her lip?

>>2994255
oh my god my unobservant eye didnt even see that. well i guess it's time to scrap it and restart....

>>2994253
you made her look like a taiwanese ladyboy

Was politely informed by my family that it looks like she's dressed in a plastic bag, back to the drawing board...

>>2994066
You are so close man.

>>2994253
You know I've been drawing cartoon and fantasy stuff for year and I really draw from real life... But I feel like i can learn a lot from doing both.

But right now I'm at a level where, I'm constantly trying to find out what can be improved upon. pic related, was an attempt to gray-scale a comic, but i realized this is'nt very appealing.

why is life drawing so much harder than from a photo

>>2994270
Because we have no idea what we're doing...

Today I re-drew a drawing I did one year ago.
Don't give up anons, keep drawing!

>>2994284
That's progress. Congrats!

so whats the proper way of "studying anatomy" ? is it just drawing from reference and understanding where everything goes?

also unrelated question but can you criticize something as symbol drawing if its from your imagination? it wouldn't apply there, right? or am I misunderstanding what Symbol drawing is?

>>2994294
>unrelated question
It's actually very related. If you have a good understanding of form and have built an internal library of how stuff is, you'll be able to draw from imagination and make it look authentic, because you've internalized how eg an eyeball would look if it was there and won't need a reference to do it. If that makes any sense.

>>2994294
get a gf and "study" her "anatomy"

>>2994165
http://www.floobynooby.com/ICG/artvalues.html

>>2993996
Thanks, lel.

>>2994195
There's something with both of her forearms and hands, but I'll refrain from saying anything else until I see the reference.

>>2994183
I have been accused of tracing when I drew arms entirely from imagination.

>>2994307
That's cruel.

>>2994307
Fuck that, what's the best software for that?

>>2994284
There's no progress lmao

>>2994307
If /beg/ could get a gf they wouldn't need to learn to draw so they could make their own waifus

>>2993761
Don't get memed. It's necessary to draw from reference because you don't remember what things look like. You can't rely on your shoddy memory of things just yet because you've never paid attention like you are doing now.

Just look at the face you drew. You have the picture in front of you yet it's still missing a lot. Imagine if you had to draw that without a reference.

The only problem with copying is that you may be mindlessly doing it and not thinking about how to retain what you copy. So say you're drawing an eye, and just copy it without thinking about how it works, how the eyelids, brow, eyeball form together. That's gonna keep you reliant on copying and will never teach you how to construct a drawing of an eye on your own.

So it's not references that are the problem. It's the lack of study.

>>2994333
I like 2D more than 3D, I'm probably autistic but I can't really deal with the stress of having to consider how I make other people feel or worry about them not fucking me over.

>>2994337
Helpful, thanks for this, I'll make sure I study more instead of copying.

>>2993902
This is very helpful, Thank you!

How come I never heard of sketchfab before, this will proof to be realy usefull for future drawings.

I never grasped the whole thing about 3dimensional forms, probably my biggest issue.

Are there any good small exercises you can do in 20 minutes each day to improve on basics? I need some that I can do during lunch breaks at work.

>>2994351
>I'll make sure I study more instead of copying.
Do both in large quantity.

>>2994356
You can do little form studies. Like drawing cubes, cylinders, spheres in space with a light source. It doubles as line work practice too.

>>2994351
>>2994357
Isn't the purpose of study to understand how something works by copying its appearance as accurately as possible?

>>2994066
Keep going, you're doing well. Your faces are still bordering on uncanny. I'd suggest to go find a handsome face and study it. Try to bridge the gap between your faces and a handsome face. There's a beauty standard to all faces. You can make it your default and just make adjustments from there to create any face you want.

>>2993891

- ditch that book.
- get a cheap sketchbook or print paper.
- Go through keys to drawing. link in sticky

>>2994361
Accurate copying may not be enough to convey to you what's happening to the structure of the object. Especially if you're only paying attention to values and not the form. So it's important to also learn how an object holds together in 3d and what's happening beneath the surface in order to understand how to draw it better or draw it from imagination.

Study also shorthands copying in that if you know the structure of the object and understand how lighting works, you can recreate your own shadows. It saves you from needing to copiously copy each inch of value from the reference.

>>2994284
>progress

reddit

Progress after reading Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. Thoughts?

Is sketching like a monkey on meth a good way to learn?

>>2994374
How good does a monkey on meth draw?

>>2993338

Break shapes down. This board is a great wealth of knowledge when you filter through the self hating artists and shit talk.

Start a reference folder, take a look, and work on it. Nobody became better just by asking what they can do, practice helps.

>>2994380
I head that if you leave an infinite amount of them in a room for all eternity, one of them will eventually paint the Mona Lisa.

Does anyone know how to fix a small wacom intous draw? It keeps lagging and won't draw smoothly.

>>2994383
you summed up history quite nicely.

>>2994103
No, believe in the you that believes in yourself.

Would appreciate a bit of feedback on this picture.

seeing al the "begginer" art i feel like my "drawings" don't even count as one. anyway, feel free to rip my shit apart

Critz plz

>>2994429
face looks a little off but it's decent

>>2994432
Off how?

>>2994434
look at the (from your perspective) right side of his face.

>>2993826
this >>2993837

>>2994434
compared to the reference the jaw looks a tad lopsided and wide and the bottom lip seems big. that's what jumps out the most to me.

>>2994439
Still don't understand

>>2992850
jon wasn't cooperating

>>2994444
Sorry didn't read I'm stupid

>>2994406
Longman is loooooooooooong.
You have fucked up his legs greatly. Fix the connection of his legs and torso, i. e. move the pelvis upwards and the legs even more upwards (study the human skeleton to see how they should connect). His closer leg is also bent unnaturally, it's like he has just landed after jumping over an abyss instead of resting against the railing.

And I like the rendering on the upper portion of his body, it almost looks like a paintover which is both bad and good. Everything else still seems to be in early WIP stages.

>>2994474
okay, will keep this in mind.

that you describe the rendering as 'almost like a paintover' is quite a positive comment imo, considering that I used no references in this particular piece.

>>2994486
Then it is more good than bad. Your shading looks quite appealing, but you need to make the shadow on his head (on the illuminated side) much softer since human cranium is round.
By the way, which colors and modes did you use for skin shading? I'd like to try out your approach and see if my shading benefits from it.

I still have to fix the nose, but I feel like I'm getting lost in this piece, it has no direction. I tried to subtly make the eye land on her through composition of the rings, with the golden raito in mind. I am unsure of the background color and of well..
everything, I think I should just redo the hair again since its so blurry

>>2994525
Looks great to me.

BUT if your folks thought this looked like a plastic bag before. Now it looks like a Paper bag....

I like the visuals in back though.

>>2994247
the ref looks asian but your drawing looks native

>>2994525
her skin looks too desaturated or ashy, and the hair is too blurry. love the background though!

>>2994451
ok good luck with your brian problems

>>2994530
the ref is japanese/mexican

I'm beginning to learn how to paint. How do I better blend my strokes so it doesn't end up looking like this?

>>2994384
Please someone help this poor anon...

>>2994516
RGB colors (the firealpaca default), basically everything drawn on layers with 'normal' blending mode, except a single layer with 60% oppacity 'add' mode for the highlight coming from the right.
On top of that another 'normal' layer, in which I re-paint all the highlighted areas, to make sure that the colours don't look too unnatural (I also add a fine red line between highlighted area and rest of the skin before blending, to simulate the light being scattered through the skin)

>>2994510
another

>>2994544
Take more time, use a bigger brush and lower the softness of your brush. Also use a round brush. You'll have enough time to experiment with other ones when you've made it.

>>2994384

Google

>>2994284
>same pic downsampled

Ok, revamped, what more? Besides more rendering on the shirt, I need to fix the basics

>>2994570
I see thanks, so first get good at painting then try other brushes?

>>2994588
You can do whatever you want. I'm just telling you a comfortable way to see improvement since hard round is the only brush that will work in every environment.

>>2994577
that's a pretty cool mandala. did you just make that up?

>>2994549
Ah, so it's just a normal painterly approach. I see. Maybe I should try experimenting with painting alla prima again instead of using several multiply layers, so it looks less anime-ish. Pic strongly related.

>>2994577
If that spot near her ear is supposed to be a blush, it's too far back. It doesn't look like a cheekbone either, it's more of a tumah. The connection of her arm to her torso is weird, the angle is too big. Or rather, too small and the connection is too far up, even more because she is lowering her shoulders, as we can see by the forms of her body.

>>2992850

I'm struggling... I always jump into it scribbling and try to get the shapes and placement somewhat in, then try to fix what I can see bit by bit.

Should I keep doing it this way?

Made it a bit better I think... How do I delete my older post?

>>2994621
You click on the small white square in your post, then scroll down to the end of the page and click the "Delete" button. If the post is too old, you cannot delete it.

>>2994621
this looks nothing like niesche, it looks like a dude bro that's chilling poolside drinking beers

Should i do a black background? kinda looks unfinished. don't want to overdo it either... help

>>2994281
Wow...

what do yall think about my coloring?

armors hard

This is the best I can do for now. Anyways, for some reason it doesn't let me delete them, sorry for the inconveniences

>>2994661
nice pun

lol

>>2992867
Yes?

>>2992877
it's p good but their butts are kinda flat and the smaller guys nipple & thigh are kinda big

>>2992892
this iteration looks the best but her face is kinda off, it looks really flat and disconnected with the rest of her body. i think when you were rendering you got distracted and focused on the face too much instead of keeping it consistent with the body, also contrast is wayyy to high/ crow looks fantastic tho

>>2994384
Elaborate further please, because I think this happened to me too

>>2994384
What's your PC spec? What drawing software?

>>2994384
this always works for me:
close all the programs you have open
if ur on windows click the start menu orb and type in services
open services, scroll down until you see this
right click, press stop, then right click again and press start

I drew a picture of axel from streets of rage 2. What can I do to make it better? The shoulders look weird but I'm not quite sure how to fix them.

>>2994669
Good job on thinking about drawing with values rather than lines.

>>2994825
Read the sticky

I need some help, i'm having trouble to find some good color scheme. If you don't mind, what's the best color scheme for her?

>>2994754
It's an HP 15 laptop and Krita software senpai.

>>2994990
good critique anon, but can you be a little more specific than that?

Why is it that I can spend so much time on a piece but still fail to recognize glaring proportion issues?

>>2994611
Maybe. I mean it's probably alright for anime-styled things, but the main difference isn't the use of layer modes, but that you exclusively use "skin color".

Here's a side by side comparison of the color palettes used in the skin in our pictures. Yours has colors that you would only find in scenarios with perfectly neutral lighting conditions. My skin in comparison is heavily tinted by the lights and colors it is surrounded by - almost blue from the sky lights, almost red from the lights bouncing of the bricks.

>>2994763
You fixed it! Thank you anon kun! I almost went out and bought a new tablet.

>>2994754
No wonder. I've tried Krita and it's heavier than photoshop. CSP or SAI is better choice for low-medium tier PC.

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Ops. I meant for this
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>>2994729
>contrast is wayyy to high
honestly I turned up the contrast to cover up my shitty blending

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>>2995008
or firealpaca, if you don't have any money to spend.

>>2995011
You dont need more than that, everything will fly 10 feets above your head if you didnt read the sticky

>>2995064
Yeah, better than SAI in my opinion.

>>2994284
Sorry lad, you barely improved. Where you even trying?

From William Maughan book

update: armor still hard

Do you like my skull /beg/?

>>2995238
No.

Some of the stuff I've done.

Any pointers?

Is Vilppu a meme now?

I ask because I see a few threads that talk about how useless Vilppu is all of a sudden. I have his oldschool workshop videos downloaded from the sticky, which I'll admit, are sometimes boring and very long but it the dude knows his shit. Should I continue and deal with it or are their more ""efficient"" teachers?

>>2995311
I fucking love this.

Yeah the shit I wanna see when I am fucking you from the side is miss piggy and snow white about ready to get tentacle raped.

God fucking hipsters ruin everything

>>2995325

I didn't even notice the miss piggy and tentacle tattoo desu but now I'm having a hearty kek

how many times should you redraw a figure until you realize youre too retarded for a certain pose and just give up

>>2995337
i seem to have a really hard time drawing figures that are in certain positions (laying on back in this case)

>>2995266
>draw a face
>okay

What's a good drawing tablet that's at least 10''x6'' and not ridiculously expensive?

>>2995410
Huion 1060, the latest one. there's at least 4 iterations and they have confusing naming conventions.

>>2992850
How come my drawing doesn't even have a remote likeness? i understand its a bad drawing and particularly the features and eye spacing are completely fucked. but it just doesnt look like anything in the photo. this is disheartening

>>2995410
are those dimensions for the active area or entire tablet?

>>2993239
Make the index finger shorter.
Don't forget, it moving in perspective

>>2995410
There's the medium Wacom Intuos/Intuos Pro which are a little smaller than that for $200/$350 respectively.

Other than that, maybe the Huion 1060 PLUS, WH1409, or Q11K? I've heard mixed things about Huion quality, mostly with their drivers.

>>2995417
you need to fine tune measurements. loomis is just a guideline for a correct face. the reality is everyone has different shaped heads, eyes are spaced apart different, longer/short upper lips, bigger smaller chin, eyelids angle different ways, nose and lips are shaped all kinds of different ways, where the eyebrows sit on the brow ridge etc, theres and endless list of slight variations to measure

somethings about yours that stick out are
>chin too big
>jaw shape is off
>over shape of head is off
>nose to wide
>eyes way too close together
>nostils way off. his nose is level, your drawing has it diagonal
>the M of the upper lip is too tight in yours
>the C of the lower lip is also too tight
>eyebrow shapes are off

>>2995418
Active area.

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>>2995424
The Wacoms are a little out of my price range right now. I guess it's between the 1060 Plus and the Q11K. I don't really care about wireless or tablet hotkeys, is there much difference between the two besides that?

adv?

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>>2995442
>price range right now
whats your time frame? i have a hard time believing you cant just hold off a couple months and still not be able to afford the medium intuos for $200. you can just keep making pencil/paper gains until then

>>2995444
2

>>2995451
I mean, I could afford it if there was a good reason, but it's not like I'm making money off art so it's a little expensive. Is Wacom noticeably better than Huion?

>>2995464
I never used a Wacom but I couldn't imagine it being that much noticeably better. I'm very satisfied with Huion.

>>2995464
>if there was a good reason
if you intend on painting/using color. its infinitely cheaper. i dont know shit about huion. i have an intuos pen and touch small and youll outgrow it fast because the active area is like drawing on a napkin but otherwise is fine

>>2995266
Is that a caricature, whys his jaw so long
does he have tiny teeth with is tiny mouth?

for the face
-mouth too low
-chin too low
-ear too high
-jaw does not go into ear
-hair line is off , looks like a wig
-eyes look like symbol drawing

for the pose at the top right
if her elbows are going to be close to her chest
her chest is going to need to pop out more or curve in
and if her elbows are going to be out
her shoulders need to tilt closer to the neck

Just started the draw a box thing and I'm in the box lesson right now, and I have a question in 1 point perspective; When I use 1 point perspective do I put 2 perpendicular lines, which one is smaller than the other? I'm confused, can anyone explain 1 point perspective?

>>2995453
I like it, but the tail kinda feels flat like a scarf

>>2995498
ngmi

>>2995498
Post perpendicular lines.

What kind of stuff should I focus on to grind up skill?

I know I need anatomy practice and perspective practice for sure, but what are the sorts of things I should draw to get better at those (and just in general)

I thought there was a chart for it floating around but I'll take what advice I can get

fixed small things, abandoning it now

>>2995563
Imo forms is a good skill to grind

>>2994284
So, you didn't draw for a year? That "progress" could be made in 3 days. And I'm usually the one telling people to take their time, but come on. If it isn't a bait, I bet you didn't even try to get better for real.

>>2995586
>iq tests background is a pattern of care bear assholes.
hm.

hello critiques would nice
i am beginner

>>2995001
forget color, learn how to draw first

>>2995001
What does ABCD mean?

>>2995631
>i am beginner
Yes, we can tell. You aren't measuring when you draw.

>>2995652
tried to lean off of drawing and do more painting but i guess i focused too much on values.

>>2995652
Who is this "we"?
Try offering specifics when you "critique" bud, this anon basically learned nothing from what you said

any tips for twisting bodies. God knows I don't understand how to do it.

>>2995697
Try drawing the ribcage and pelvis as boxes turning in different directions then connecting them. Then fill in the anatomy staying inside the boxes. Try looking up Robo Bean by Proko and you'll understand what I mean.

>>2995589

Why are you like this

>>2995703

>proko

>>2995739
Proko's tutorials are actually really good you meming autsimo. Although he can't draw a kangaroo from imagination, he sure can draw the human figure a million times better than you can. Maybe if you actually draw you'd realize that it doesn't matter where you get the information so long as you get the results.

can anyone give a link to the discord? the sticky one is expired

>>2995188
you're doing well man, keep it up. gotta define those edges better though. I can't tell the parts of the armor apart and everything is blurry.

kill me

>>2992850
How am I doing? I feel like my proportions tend to end up too short.

>>2995806
You shrunk everything below the eyes. The eyes are also too big/wide and too low for the face.

I tried my hand at animating. I got lazy and didn't finish it though. Couldn't figure out how to resize it.

>>2995839
Movement looks stiff.

Is this what pro artists mean when they say they use references? Or is this too much copying?

>>2995839
How long did this take you? A few weeks?

>>2995806
Here are some adjustments. I made the eyes smaller and pulled down everything from below the eyes. I made the face narrower and the jaw and chin slightly wider. Lips larger. A few tweaks like that is all it needed. Plus some shadows and it will look fine.

>>2995857
Yes, I worked on it sporadically. Was all the effort wasted?

>>2995860
I don't know. I like it, it takes a lot of effort to animate, so I'm impressed but how well you did despite some errors here and there.

>>2995859
much better

>>2995851
stpo using a reference to define your character. you're learning nothing

>>2995839
this is far beyond anything I could do, but it feels like you should move more parts.

its stiff because certain parts stay too perfectly still for too long. you need to move things like legs and shoulders a tiny bit from time to time even if they arent involved in the direct or main "action"

the big guys feet should shift a little when he recieves the attacks and the guys shoulders should move as his arms do, they stay right at his side when hes lifting his hands over his head, they should move up on his frame a little bit.

Im sure thats a lot more work though. and I admittedly have no idea what Im talking about

>>2995876
That actually helps me a lot. Thanks for the advice.

>>2995872
What do you think I should be doing to get better?

Hello /beg/,

I have been trying to copy that Picasso drawing upside down for the last 2 hours now and it never seem to come half right, some part are always too big and I can't fit the rest of the drawing on my sheet, what am I doing wrong?

>>2995888
the opposite. think of a pose you want and gather references (more than one if you have to) to make it work (instead of the other way around)

>trying to switch from pen to digital
>circles keep coming out lopsided
>notice stability setting
>disable
>circles work again

Guess the slight latency was throwing me off

>>2995926
nice blog

>>2995913

Not suppose to be perfect! The more you draw the better you get. That exercise is for you to get your ass drawing. If it somewhat look the same then move on to other exercise.

>>2995926
I feel you my traditional nigga
I wasted many months trying to figure out how to make shit work digitally too

>>2995937
Thanks, so even if I can barely fit the two third of the drawing because I drew a big as fuck head I should continue until it clicks?

>>2995928
thx

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>>2995859
Thanks anon.

>>2995788
better than half the shit I see on here, keep it up

>>2995563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piKV5nXL-C4