/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I haven't gotten replies for 3 posts, pic related, quick hand.

Am I doing something wrong here? Is it that bad?

I'm surprised there's no dedicated ergonomic digital painting control peripherals in place of a keyboard. Something with a couple touch rings for rotation and zoom, maybe a trackball or trackpad for panning, some logically grouped buttons for common operations, and some programmable hotkeys.

Or at least put more effort into the built-in controls on drawing tablets. It's so useless when they only put 5 or 6 buttons on there, easier to just keep your hand on the keyboard instead of shifting back and forth.

>>2975842
Work on your line quality. Flwoing lines, that aren't chicken scratches. The hand doesn't have dents in the outline like that. Forget shading for the moment - keep practicing so the drawing has ONE line per outline/surface/edge, not loose smudgy lines and jagged, broken lines.

le sameface strikes again

>>2975858
The new Cintiq pro has one.

I have a Cintiq 24HD. The express keys and radial menus inside the apps I use are more than enough for what I need. If you spend the time to set them up for the commands you use the most, you don't need the keyboard - and I've been using Photoshop since version 2.5, and know the power of the keyboard for that app.

The new peripheral for the Cintiq Pro looks very interesting - it sounds exactly like what you're talking about.

>>2975866
Handheld controller? That actually sounds like it'd be pretty nice, if you could fit enough buttons on there.

Not that I'll be able to afford a Cintiq any time soon.

>>2975858
I've seen some videos of studios with their art guys working with these fisher price abominations.

>>2975866
Looking further, it's sold seperately from the Cintiq, for $100. You can use it with the cintiqs, or Intuos. But the reviews say it's buggy - but - some people are claiming it'll work with other tablets, with the wacom drivers.

I'll keep an eye on this, I'm wondering if it'll work with mine, it would mean even more express buttons.

There's also a generic one, for other types of tablets, too...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NC2LEYP?psc=1

>>2975875
I was actually considering something like that. I don't have a lot of desk space so I want something smaller than a full size keyboard.

Where to find packs of casual photos, which people not posing, just do they everyday people things?

>>2975842
needs more perspective
too flat

>>2975864
drawing different eyes usually gets rid of same face

sketch in progress

>>2975899
Facebook

i need help on this

>>2975864
that nose is gonna hoover me up

>>2975904
No. Most of them posing, and this is not "packs"

>>2975782
Is this any good?

Am reading trough "Figure drawing for All it's worth" and would love a bit of guidance, have been using an online pose generators and drew manikin after manikin but I'm not sure of when to start going to the next part (adding muscles and volume)

Should I just keep drawing the manikin till I can draw him accurately in any position? Or is it better idea to continue the book?

>>2975899
http://oh-hi.info/2016_9-12/?from=B0172837-y720px.jpg
Some anon posted this somewhere once. Might be helpful.

>>2975923
Just continue with the book. You can always go back to the manikin if you feel like you need to. You can also try adding anatomy ontop of all the manikin you drew.

Help please. I'm looking for a piece where it is a man sitting on a chair overlooking a beautiful landscape. The mans head is the sun kinda looks like the argentine flag. It's very colorful

>>2975785
There was an attempt
Feels like I can't see the big picture before I draw in the details.

Question

When studying Anatomy should do more quick sketches or fully render pieces? (Master copy)

>>2975842
damn that's really good. I can't draw anything like that.

>>2975955
where's his other eye

>>2975946
I really hate art students.

>>2975955
You're shading and line-work are good enough, but you desperately need to work on your proportion.
Learn how much space things take.
Also, do at least some minor construction, I feel like you drew this portrait without it.

>>2976052
Yeah, I'll try to work on that.

>>2975861
Is this really necessary?

I feel like just pratice until you can feel the mass (3d form) of an object.
Chicken scratches and all.

Your "line" will improve with your understanding of the form. When your cofindent your lines will naturally become less scratchy.

Trying to get better at anatomy, am I doing this right? My process is as follows:

1. Draw a human skeleton from reference.
2. Draw the skeleton from memory, compare to reference, draw it again.
3. Same, but with flesh on.
4. Once I start to understand the proportions and how things should look and connect, I look up poses and try to draw them starting from the skeleton.

>>2975861
Got it. I didn't mean to make it look so scratchy, I was doing Dodson and was restating frequently. My fingers unfortunately do have some dents, I'll take a picture next time for reference.

should I erase lines then to get it to one line per outline/surface/edge? Because until now instead of erasing I just go over it with another line.

>>2975900
How do I add "perspective" or make it seem more realistic, shading and texturing?

>>2975987
Appreciate it but I have a long way to go. I can see my mistakes now and didn't bother posting my next hand. The one I do this afternoon I might.

>>2976134
This will probably teach you to create technically accurate drawings, but you may have trouble making appealing drawings if you don't sprinkle some gesture studies in there too.

>>2975903
WIP
is this worth continuing?

whenver I try to paint with my smaller brushes they always squish out and make wider lines than I want. am I not putting the paint on the brush or something?

i just started painting in general, using acrylic

>>2976134
Honestly, you don't need to draw everything from a skeleton.

Its a waste of time imo. You just need to get a BASIC understanding.
Do more form studies and gesture drawings. find different pictures of the figure in different angles and draw it until you can rotate it freely in your head.
Draw it until you feel the form.

Do large chunks first and add small details later.

Just draw a lot you'll learn where everything goes..Connects, bumps etc as you become more observant.

>>2976159
it looks a bit off right now, moreso to do with the shape of the head in line form, and perhaps with how the mouth is placed. Keep going however, it's not awful and it will be good practice. Is there a ref?

how do you divide a cube in perspective? in scott's book he says you draw a cross on a square to find the center. would you just connect that center to the vanishing point?

>>2975881

You can always get a 60% keyboard too.
I've been enjoying my extra desk space since getting one

>>2975864
Op?

>>2976197
From the thumbnail it looked like these hands had been typing so hard they were bleeding.

>>2975936
something about your heads is just so unappealing.

>>2975936
Everything was fine until the face
eugh

Less restatement this time. And the next hand is going to be only single lines no restatements.

>>2976328
you can ghost the lines if you want? the ones you have are shakey af and have no weight variation

Still trying to get gesture. Am I doing these properly, or am I still stuck copying the outline?

traced over original sketch with first tablet. Still scared of shading and line art.

>>2976135
think about where the light would be hitting it, add light to where it hits and shadow to where it'd be hidden from the light
for shading you can try using the side of your pencil or just look up some pencil techniques and try them out

>>2975780
Thoughts?

>>2976387
She could fist her nose with that tiny arm.

>>2975864
If you know it's same face why don't you try changing it up first?

>>2976387
use form

this shit is hard

Here is another head drawing. Please don't mind the elf chick on the right. Feedback is appreciated.

steps forward=n
steps back=2n
Gonna hamfist this shit till it's kawaii. If chinamen can do it I sure as hell can.

>>2976328
I don't think pinkies work that way...

my kitty cat.

>>2976416
Me too.

>>2976427
He's quite close. The middle phalanx is just a bit longer.

how 2 have good lines ??

>>2976423
11/5/17 looks cute

>>2976423
You need consistency especially in the eyes. Just a thought. Love your work. Full images when?

>>2976431
did he died

>>2976443
>>2976423
I agree

I think you should study pupil placement too, it'll help when drawing your characters. It seems like you're placing them all dead center, which gives them somewhat of a crazy look.

>add a photoshop filter
>image looks infinitely better
Why the fuck is an image filtering algorithm better at art than me

>>2976443
w-which one
>>2976444
>>2976451
>the eyes
>pupil placement
Will do
>Full images when?
Figured I'd learn to draw heads properly before I learned to draw bodies I could put them on. My anatomy's pretty fucking rough otherwise.

>>2976455
Its ment to look unclean :3

>>2976456
Middle one

>>2976456
Second to last one for that date.

Guys, I've been looking through some of my older stuff and realized that I have hardly made any improvement in some time.
I can't believe how many years I've spent telling myself that I'll git gud one day, but never putting in the practice that I need.
It's like I'm living on false hope.
Feels bad, man.

>>2976465
I remember those tits.
Post current stuff.

>>2976456
If you want to "learn heads properly", would advice trying to learn realistic heads. There's no issue with going for the current heads (tho even then, you should do different angles) but you'll only ever get good at using similar heads, learning how to make realistic heads will make you good at using any head type.

>>2976456
Oh hey, someone who like MGRP

>>2976482
I doodled like 80% of these with with my mouse, which is what led me to dig out my drawpad again and use that. MGRP is kind of the reason I started drawing, I guess.

>>2976486
Oh fuck you're drawfag anon? Good luck with your shit. If of the things I want to draw is mgrp but I'm much worse than you right now

>>2976467
There is not a whole lot to see....
https://fludd108.deviantart.com

I'm taking some time to fix all construction before I really start to polish it and give the skin some better undertones(blue vs red) and turn the eyes more grey, I've been staring at this for too long so I would like to know what your unbiased opinions are on what needs fixing.

>>2976491
Nah, that guy came after the drama with the translator. I sincerely doubt you're worse than him.

>>2976122
Is it necessary? Your advice leads to the same place. You make the judgement.

>>2976191
I had to eyeball breaking the closest vertical line into thirds as well as the first column. Then I used the center line to produce the other two columns in perspective (notice the orange and red lines).

>>2976497
Oh, I bailed before the drama and never really returned. I didn't know he was apart of it

>>2976496
teach me

Illustration i did for Money..its for a Pullover :DD

>>2976509 it was like 2-3 years ago so the eye looks extremely shit ..dont laugh bout The brow xD

>>2976473
>learning how to make realistic heads will make you good at using any head type.
Just so you know OP, this isn't true. Don't fall for the beginner memes, just keep stylizing.

>>2976509
Quick tip - when doing something commercial, work at 200% size. When it's reduced, it will tighten up the art.

It is a whale...wale..whatever need some advise what i did wrong ..if theres something wrong :3

>>2976486
>if theres something wrong :3

you

>>2976516
Explain :D...it was scanned and fixed etc then printed :3 .. Do i have to make it bigger?

>>2976517
>>2976509

pillow shading

>>2976526
Pillow shading?. Explain :D ...you mean where I used my fingers or blending sticks..or the hatching? :)

>>2976512
>xD
Stop that.

>>2976493
Seriously only 10 drawings in 3 years? Don't expect much progress with zero practice.

>>2976531
Why do you care about --> xD <-- ?

>>2976537
There are some other ones that weren't posted there, but you're right. That's the main problem I'm trying to get over. I keep telling myself that I'll put in the work, but never do.

>>2976419
It took me some time to understand why it looks bad.
1) Her nose is humongous. Its lower parts also slide a bit away from the central vertical line. Finally, the base of her nose isn't aligned horizontally with neither her mouth nor her chin. (I mean that the angle is different.)
2) Her eyes have different shape.
3) Mouth line might be too horizontal/straight for this angle, given that she's smiling.

>>2976456
Reminds me of that qt owl girl.

>>2976496
IIRC, you lost the original's expression completely. I have to add that your current version looks like a bedroom look on a young woman's face. I reallllllly hope the closet pedo here isn't me.

This shit is hard, I've been trying to visualize water flowing thought the body, but I still can't get it.

>>2976547
>bedroom eyes
tho it was conceived on a loli request, it wasn't really meant to be sexual, just a child

>>2976448
no, just being lazy. NOT dead

>>2976514
Can anyone vouch for this? I wasn't planning on drawing realistic heads anyway because fuck real life but I'd like some confirmation.

>>2976589
I dunno, I'm still new, but I read that the more you understand about the body the more you'll understand what you can add/take away before it starts to look bad

>>2976547
>Her nose is humongous. Its lower parts also slide a bit away from the central vertical line.
Alright, I'll work on those changes. Thanks!

>try to draw and use a pencil for the first time in five or six years
>just end up scribbling lines everywhere because i can't think of anything to do

>>2976606
You're already miles ahead of half the people in /beg/.

>>2976610
i find that very hard to believe :(

>>2976441
attempt #2

>>2976606
I used to do that, now I draw cute anime girls as warm up. Why did you pick up the pencil in the first place though? Something resonate from inside of you?

>>2976626
Draw bigger.

>>2976634
how big are we talking here

>>2976517
You need to work on your design.

>>2976630
my days consist of doing literally nothing and have been like that for many years now. im tired of consuming and want to create, i've always wanted to, but now that i'm trying i just get anxious despite it being the only way i want to spend my time. i can feel a physical pain in my chest and start to get a headache looking at anything at all i consider art and not being able to make anything myself.
even this brings that on. it's very depressing. even with this i sense a lot more perceptive skill than i could ever hope to achieve because i look at what little i can do or the way moving a pencil feels to me and i have little hope i could ever create something that feels natural.

>>2976640
>physical pain in my chest
>headache

what kind of autist shit is this lmao? it's literally just drawing

>not being able to make anything myself

i guess you're happy being a statistic

>>2976638
as big as my ding dong ;;;)

>>2976642
i'm not happy being that. and the anxiety i feel from that is real

>>2976638
Hard to put in to words when you're not drawing digital. At least, the pencil lines ought to not be so thick. Ignore this faggot:
>>2976643

>>2976640
Start lifting so you can learn what progress and dedication are, then apply that mindset to drawing. You'll never get anywhere by being an anxious low-test twink.

>>2976640
That's how it starts man. Everybody goes through that.

You're going to keep seeing artwork that's going to pain you for not being able to create things like that. You're going to get anxious about starting because you're seeing it as such a huge endeavor and you want to just skip the journey and get to the end right away. It is in fact very depressing to keep yourself in that cycle of inspiration and doubt.

But there is no right way to start drawing. There is no right time. The beginning stages are going to be extremely clumsy and slow. You're going to stagger a lot. But what other choice do you have? It's either you go through that, or you never learn ever.

The beginning will be rough, but you know what? If you diligently put in the effort, practice correctly, slowly taking step by step, you'll get better. Drawing will feel better, become even a little easier. You'll start to see progress which will give you a lot of confidence in yourself. You may even start to enjoy it and feel gratified.

Drawing is just like any other skill. It's just a matter of learning, practice, and effort. If you give yourself the time to consistently do that, you will improve. Just draw past that little voice in your head that's telling you all kinds of non-sense about not making it. Given time, you won't even have any doubt left, you'll just keep drawing because you know you can do it.

>>2976364
I dunno why, but I really love this.

Can I do a rendition of it in my own way of painting?

How's this /ic/?

>>2976644
I'm getting the feeling that you're taking it too seriously. Yes, you need discipline and dedication to the craft to get somewhere in an appropriate time but you'll feel a lot better if you loosen up. Any established artist will tell you that.

>>2976652
>>2976664
thank you...

critique me

what book has exercises to help me learn figure drawing/basic anatomy? studied perspective/drawing on the right side of the brain already.

>>2976662
How do I get as good as you?

>>2976639
Can u design it better plz? Legit question :D I dunno how to "design" it better

>>2976681
You flatterer you.
Just do a lot of photo studies. I find that helps.

>>2976431
He cute fluff

>>2976455
Can't really call this much of a fundamental exercise if it is stylized so much. A lot of the expressions are weak on the faces because you haven't moved the cheeks upwards with the mouth's muscles. Also the nose isn't flared and one eyebrow is not correctly placed on the angry-face. The skull looks like it's from a chimpanzee because the forehead slopes dramatically. You should focus on keeping lighter values in your sketch style, a lot of it is too dark to make out any definition in the shapes because you've compressed most of the detail into the darker end. Was it also meant to be 3552x2000 large? Remember to resize your drawings.

>>2976496
Careful with the wrinkles where the hand touches the face and the wrist. She's too young to have thin skin that wrinkles like that.

>>2976678
can someone respond before i fall asleep

>>2976682
I'm not >>2976639 but the issue is that the centerpiece is one of the least interesting objects on the whale. Trees belong in the background, especially when there are buildings and people about. That being said, don't just leave it empty. You need to shuffle things around until you have a good composition. Other than that I love the piece good job

>>2976678
Just fucking draw, you don't need exercises you dumb ass.

>>2975782

>>2976701
ooh someones nice *and* helpful

>>2976678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ufz75UvHs
This video is all you need.

>>2976697
This was on another thread idk try these

>>2976707
i appreciate the repost and will check these out, thanks.

>>2976701
How do you draw anatomy if you don't know shit about it?

>>2976711
Trial and error.

>>2976676
Art's missing details in crucial places, but you took the time to make the noses red. Really?

>>2976721
Holy shit I think you found the joke.

>>2976721
It actually helps me later to define that nose is in a different plane than the face.

>>2976722
Is it some sort of meme post? Because I haven't seen it before.

>>2976711
Dude just draw what you see lmao

/beg/ is cancer.

I just don't know how to practice as a beginner, all I can do is draw stick figures and asymetric portraits. Do I start with Keys to drawing, drawing on the right side of the brain or fun with a pencil?

>>2976732
Keys to drawing

Loomis is a meme

>>2976732
I did a little of keys to drawing, I think Right side of the brain teaches a lot of important concepts in drawing. After those two I'd say do drawabox. I didn't fall for the loomis meme, do proko instead of him.

>>2976135
Doesnt matter if they're realistic
just draw them at different angles

I didn't draw today. This has been happening frequently lately. I think I'm losing interest. I was so fucking hyped four or so months ago, drew like 6 hours a day. Now it's barely three, sometimes. Sometimes it's less. And not every day.

Is this what it's like to grow up? Kids dream of being artists. Adults realize that it just cannot be.

>>2976737
Did you do all the lessons to the letter? How many lessons per session?

>>2976725
tumblr noses, my dear anon.

>>2976744
have you tried comparing your art?

And I dont think losing interest has anything to do with adult vs juvenile thing. I'm guessing you're just feeling the pressure of growing up. Stigma gives a lot of stress.

>>2976751
I don't know why but your faces are just so unappealing, I saw a few people comment on it earlier but I have to admit it too.

The problem is that I can't quite put my finger on it, it might be from the quite large noses that you draw plus the eyes and mouth seem a little too wide as well.

>>2976744
Don't force anything. Take a brake if you're not feeling it. I once took a several year pause because I lost my determination, but I came back. You can do that too, take some time and think why you really want to draw.
And if you think dreaming is kids stuff, you aren't done growing up.

>>2976754
>comparing your art

With what, my old art? Sure, I'm better now than when I was like 12 years old drawing every once in a while in the back of my school notebooks, but I haven't seen any meaningful improvement in a very long time by now.

Those improvement threads make me legitimately depressed. People get so much better in the space of a year with a practice schedule not unlike my own, yet I'm stuck in the same spot I was two years ago.

It's an uphill battle, and I think I'm tiring of it.

>>2976763
Do you "dream", anon? Has it led anywhere?

>>2976765
thats fair. thats the extremes of doing one thing every day. just getting tired. you must be frying out from not seeing anything good in the craft for a while.

>>2976658
Yeah dude, I'd love to see it. Any pointers you can give me? I've been trying to play around with my tablet and haven't really figured out line weights and such.

>>2976711
Look up some croquis that aren't super deformed for fashion/costume renderings and start tracing over them to get an understanding of the body. That's what I did for about a month before looking up photos of people for reference and eyeballing it. I'm still a little rough with no reference but I can tell a difference. Honestly, just practicing and maybe even looking at your own body helps.

>No critique twice in a row

>>2976762
he's missing a lot of forehead as well.

Is there an easy way to smooth out the nib on a digital pen? I tend to hold the pen almost perpendicular to the tablet and after a day or two the nib gets worn completely flat which prevents it from gliding as smoothly over the surface.

>>2976795
Try to hold the pen at an angle.

Jesus, man.

>>2976364
work on your anatomy
-that right shoulder is dislocated
-the breasts are too far down on the chest
-her back is too long
-her left shoulder is poking out while her left hand is lower than the right one, It should be higher since the shoulder is out
-face is too long
-you cant put your arms in that position with your legs bending in
-eyes are too high
or does she have six eyes? I dont really understand what those red dots are

anyway i redrew it for you in a better pose

>>2976792
ok dude, you just want people drawn bald, that or you've never seen bangs

>>2976751
No forehead/10

>>2976802
What?

You do know how high the hairline is right?

>>2976751

went from elegance and mysticism to taking a shit behind donkey cart

>>2976809
you know how low bangs can go right?

>>2976837
>He's literally drawing himself as a fuccboi anime character

This just became a million times sadder, oh boy.

>>2976837
You drew a picture of a person facing forward
using a reference from a low angled perspective

you set yourself up for failure

>>2976840
its not that cringe, theres worse out there.
I dont like the fact that he's trying to defend himself tho

>>2976842
a low angled perspective would make it so the hair seems higher up tho, would it not?

>>2976840
i love this thread.

>>2976830

>>2976848
>just fuck my shit up

>>2976845
If the head was tilted back then yes.
but in the picture the head is facing forward

we can see under the jaw and under the nose,
in the drawing we cannot see under the nostril
and we cannot see under the jawline

the perspective is not the same, so drawing the bangs in the same perspective as the photo will ruin the drawing

>>2975780
Super sorry for my art being horrible.
Criticism? Compliments? Insults?

>>2976848
>THIS IS WHAT THE OP ACTUALLY PERCEIVES - IMAGINE LIFE THROUGH HIS EYES

Ahh I miss those threads.

>>2976845
He's saying you moved the brow for a lower angle but drew everything else from straight on giving the microencephalitic look. This low/straight-on mixup also lead to misplaced ears that are too high. You went overboard with the eyes so the face looks stretched instead of seeing the sides of the head, and the same with the mouth which should be bounded approximately by the pupils. You also incorrectly placed the edge on the neck muscle, which should be on the inside.

>>2976853
ah, fair point, i misunderstood

>>2976854
Also, this is fan art of this.

>>2976854
very cute anon

let's put it on the fridge

>>2976864
<3

>>2976854
u memeing son?

>>2976854
Spooked my pants off.

>>2976868
socialjusticewhatever.com

>>2976870
I had a joke for this.

Something about a black guy.

>>2976856
i took the picture after i made the drawing cause one of you didn't think bangs exist, i never used that pic as refrence

>>2976455
looks like a tool music video

>>2976456
This is adorable.

>>2976883
What, my attempt at drawing it or the drawing itself?

>>2976676
heres your critique
finish it

>>2976901
Both.

How do i leave the vicious cycle of never drawing the thing i'm bad at, thus still being shit at it and only wanting to draw the things i'm better at?

>>2976908
Stop being a pussy and draw the thing you're bad at or you're ACTUALLY never gonna make it.

When you should be solving problems, but you draw a sad princess instead

I draw a lot of monsters yah I wanna make a video game so bad

>>2976921
So how's that video game going? Also, is that NMS? Double also, MC, nice.

>>2976875
well its okay because that anon fixed the drawing for you.

just try to study what is spacing facial features apart from

ignore the words in the pic, just acknowledge the spacing

>photoshop through the photography plan
>$9.99/month
>photoshop on its own
>$19.99/month

Am I missing something? Is there a difference between the two versions?

>>2976953
>Buying Photoshop

What!?

>>2976957
Ever since they went full cloud shit, the process of pirating photoshop seems to keep getting more and more convoluted

>>2976924
>blames acne on internal organ disease
>look at people actually suffering from issues with said internal organs
>no acne

And these deranged hippies probably go around complaining to everyone about how sick they are because of ridiculous infographics like this.

How's my ms paint drawing?

gestures

>>2976980
Can't see shit captain.

Trying to practice mannequinization, am I doing alright or am I doing shitty ? I am not certain. Any advice is welcome.

>>2976983
I'll press harder next time

>>2976984
Gonna make it

Are there any 3d web apps that let you position human models and stuff that would be suitable for drawing reference?

>>2976991
https://sketchfab.com/miguelozz/collections/anatomy

did the exercise in keys to drawing where you draw some gestures, some connected-line drawing and then a 5-minute burn. I had fun with this, and that's my blog

>>2977000
CWC, is that you?

>>2977004
I wish I could make a webcomic series that's ironically popular

>>2976994
Oh, the skull one is pretty nice. That'll work perfectly.

>>2976986
Thank you anon, I still feel like I won't though.

>i'm going to stick with it this time
>this time for sure

So I followed that anons exercise, and printed a picture out and drew parallel lines over it, and tried the drawing again.
But aahhhh, forgot the head tilt, and things (especially the nose) looks off.
WELL, gonna practice more and give it another attempt.

>>2977026
try to do an underlayer of where the shapes are, sketch the squares and triangles before going in with the hard outline of it, draw a cross axis if it helps to get those angles such as the smile/chin line that should be perpendicular to the bridge of her nose

>>2977036
Yeah, I should've done some basic construction. Thanks for the advice, I'm gonna try that.

I really need to practice abdomens. I'm looking to get art similar to this pic. I'm struggling to find photos of people with similar stomachs, though. Everything is either really flabby or really chiseled. Anyone got anything?

>>2977043
http://xgoxvideo.xyz/7895-flat-stomach-porn.html
like this?

>>2977047
yes, thanks!

what music should i listen to while drawing to draw better

How would you approach doing something like this? Draw it out normally and then lay the pixels over it?

>>2977102
Listen to this art piece:

https://youtu.be/35cTIXoBnuw

Does paint software matter? I don't have a adobe CC license on my mac so I can't use ps6 due to low resolution issues regarding retina display. I recently bought a tablet and got use to the tools on sketchbook pro and it seems to be find with me. I'm no where interested in getting into the industry, I'm more so into fashion design and illustration, logo making etc.

I'm pretty sure I can get just enough out of sketchbook pro to do what I want and more, just like photoshop

>>2977102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6xBpsiSy_k

>>2977102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98

>>2976984
Any advice or critique, I could seriously use it to improve.

>>2977111
after the garbage that was ultraviolence i can't really stand her anymore

>>2977118
If you're going to meme at least do it right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtPsTieXSfI

>>2977113
I don't understand the first part at all.

Sketchbook Pro is a solid app. It has the basic toolset you'd need - and it's honestly one of the best on the market.

I've been designing logos professionally for decades. THE app you want to learn for that is Illustrator. It's the industry standard, and you really should learn vector if that's the kind of work you want to do. It's a got a steep learning curve, but there's nothing like it once you learn it.

>>2977122
You're better than me and that make me sad

Can I do digital silverpoint?

>>2977122
Exception for those non-human, legs proportion still need more work. Most of them looks too long. The most far right bottom (our right), you drew his right leg a bit too long than his left.

>>2977173
Thank you so much.

Morning, may I have some advice or critique over my recent drawing? Please, thank you kindly.

>>2977185
First of all resize.
Second of all practice basic anatomy before going in detail with the shading.

mfw 4stoopid2sender the subject.

any ideas for a background. i dont want to paint it as is because its a kitchen island looking down longways and i wouldnt be sure how to handle the area on each side past the edges. painting is still a wip

Are tendies a suitable subject for doing still life drawings?

>>2977271
Honestly, it'd probably be great practice for texture and shading organic forms.

sup y'all comments?

>>2976970
Doing it in mspaint won't make it any better, anon. Learn where the features go on the head, mouth is too low and move the eyes more to the right, also those eyebrows are annoying.

>tfw didn't think I could draw people in any other angle than just a front view
>tfw when I actually tried it I was way better than I thought
sometimes you just have to jump right in!!! very happy with myself atm

>>2977274
I like the face but the arms and tits look wrong, sorry can't help much since I'm in the same boat as you

i think im going to call this finished but i still need a background, any ideas?

>>2976964
You know that in different cases there are different symptoms for many illnessess, right?

>>2977043
Hater_(hatater) likes to draw muscular girls, and he actually knows anatomy to a decent extent.

>>2977131
I wouldn't say he is memeing... If there was only throat singing, then it would actually work for me.

Personally I'd recommend these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqGxP5kxcag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G1Hfb8oiUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0q-cQrlreA

>>2977272
You might need to stuff yourself full beforehand, or you'd get distracted if they actually look THAT appetizing.

>>2977274
This is not perfect red line but I hope it would be helpful.

>>2977353
thanks!

>>2975946
not that anon but this is useful

>>2977014
>I'll continue this later
>just a quick sketch and I'll do more

>>2977326
A desk would be nice

>>2975781
Okay I fucked up the torso but is my construction okay?

>>2976444
>>2976451
>>2976473
Changed how I draw the eyes, changed the angle, tried to include more of the body but stopped when I got v& for crimes against anatomy.
Improvement?

>>2975780
how to draw things like trees, bushes or hair, things that have lots of details but has to be simplified because you see them from a distance?

>>2977470
You improved, a bit, but may I ask why you're using human proportion in your stylized drawing?

>>2977480
>you're using human proportion
What kind of mutants do you live around?

>>2977470
Why are you choosing drawings that are so close together?

I know that you're excited to see results but you're not going to get noticeable differences in a matter of days, all that's happened here is you've drawn things in a slightly different way at the same skill level.

It takes months to see real improvement and that's only if you study and practice hard, keep a monthly log instead, it'll look better.

>>2977489
Nah man, I meant that the eye goes over the eyeline. I should've worded it better

>that moment when it finally clicks and you're starting to get a hang of drawing something you're bad at
Noses in my case. Feels pretty good man.
Please redline the face if you can.

>>2975780

>>2977517

Any advices on how i get better? I'd like to draw more "realistic" creatures.

>>2977517
>>2977525
Stop symbol drawing and learn proper anatomy. You can start signing your work when it isn't shit.

>>2977105
If i were you i'd draw it without the pixels. But if you are trying to draw it with the pixels, idk; i've never drawn nothing like that.

>>2977513
H-how'd you do it, Anon?

>>2976662
Fuck, nice

sorry for the ugly chin on top, I tried to free hand it

>>2977530
How do i know the body measurements? Do you use a rule? Could you give me information about some books or pages i can borrow for get better?

Thanks. Also i remind you anon this is not a "Look at my fucking drawings, i'm a god" thread, it's a beginner thread. That's why i'm asking for advices.

>>2977533
Feel the form, or something. Personally I draw a centerlines along the front of the face, going over all the bumps of the face, along the nose. That's why there's a line down the forehead. It'll come to you eventually anon. I still can't figure out what I do wrong when I draw boxes, if that makes you feel better.

Also, please tell me what I do wrong with my boxes, someone.

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>>2977555
nice

>>2977555
Thanks,

>>2977513
Well, you've still got a long journey before you, as the nose that's on the face of that... uh... character looks like a pig's snout.

>>2977555
These faces on their bodies are horrifying.

>>2977547
Inverted perspective in some of them, namely the leftmost one, the one on top of it (maybe), the... ah, whatever, I'll just mark the edges that look bad with my nezumi.

Did you read Norling or Robertson? Oh, of course you didn't. Construct the perspective grid on another layer and see for yourself why those look wrong.

>>2977503
>typical /beg/ who doesn't draw mindset
I couldn't help but reply.

>>2977561
What? Can you show me this perspective grid. I'm not the Anon that drew that.

>>2976197
hello fren

>>2977576
thats a funny looking calculator

>>2977561
Well, as long as it looks like 3d-ish pig snout, I feel like I've made some improvement. I understand what mean you mean by the boxes, too, I'll work on fixing how I draw them. Thank you.

>>2977580
That is the glorious Ducky Pocket.
Each key is can be a programmable macro. It functions as a number pad and it's also a calculator when unhooked from a pc.

...it's basically an RGB Calculator.

>>2977377
that's basically all there was to the reference i was using.
i'm not good enough to color and shade stuff and trying to do so would make me sad.

How long to get this good?

>>2977615
Those anime girls are too dark anon

>>2977575
Here.

>>2977618
I'm still stupid but can you elaborae further?

>>2977576
>has all these keyboards
>doesn't get an intuos pro medium

>>2977438
Construction is alright for the most part, but the pose is too stiff. Drawing a centerline should help or just practice some gesture drawing.

>>2977657
One thing at a time.

>>2977624
1) Pick a cube.
2) Choose a pair of parallel edges that have clearly defined ends.
3) Identify the direction of "going further from the viewer."
4) Using the line tool, draw long perfectly straight lines that overlap with those edges. The lines have to be long enough to cross each other at some point in the direction defined in step 3. To draw a line, just point your cursor at a "closer" vertex, and, holding the left mouse button, drag it away, minding that it should overlap the chosen edge of the cube.
5) Now simply drag lines from the remaining vertices to that point where the lines cross, which is called the vanishing point. Remember that a cube only has 4 parallel edges in each of the three sets (aka dimensions), so you need to draw only 4 lines.

If the lines from step 5 don't match the cube you've drawn, it means you dun goof'd either at cube drawing stage or at the stage of constructing a grid. Determine the correct answer and note what you have learned.

>>2977658
Clevah boiz can do however many thingz zey want at a tiem.

Any /beg/iners interested about iScribble or somethink like it ?

>>2977658
Line of action and construction go hand in hand. You do the line of action first to guide your construction.

>>2976707
is it meme or i can use this shedule?

>>2977645
I think about it every night. I'm not going to allow myself to buy one until I have the skills to justify it though.

So just to be clear.

The general consensus is that if you want to draw supreme qt anime girls you need to master drawing realistic normie girls first.

Is that correct or am I being misled?

>>2977438
I like that leg construction! I might try that.

quick

how do I draw the thumb from this angle?

>>2977710
You're being misled.

>>2977701
>>2977093

>>2977770
Well what the fuck have I been doing this whole time god damn it.

>>2977773
I like to think drawing from life as drawing within the rules of nature. You have to follow that rules otherwise it wouldn't look like the subject you're studying. Once you know your way around that rules then you can easily break it in your imaginative drawing.

>>2977801
Not drawing what you want.

What kind of artist does that?

>>2977804
A new and naive one I guess. At least I can draw what I want to without guilt now. I feel free in a way.

>>2977769
1) Make the gesture you want to draw with your left hand.
2) Keeping the gesture fixed, move your hand up and turn it towards your eyes, making the same angle as in your picture.
3) Observe and copy what you see.
4) ???
5) PROFIT!!!

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