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>passable for an illustration
>passable for an animation

These phrases are often said, though. It is often accompanied with the preconcieved standards for these mediums. When people say "passable for a webcomic" they already have a set standard for what a "typical" webcomic looks like, thus the standards.

>>2941832
What's going on here? Is the lady trying to open a pickle jar?

Because a lot of great webcomics have shit art. Look at Jerk City and Homestuck. If I were you I would try to distance myself from that label though.

"Passable for animation" is said quite often. The art in animation is obviously much simpler than a fully rendered painting because everything needs to be drawn tens, hundreds, thousands of times. The same goes for comics.

Webcomics make little or no money, so less effort is put into them, with a few rare exceptions.

Like even though the OP is fairly well-drawn, it has minimal backgrounds and the linework is kind of messy. It would be hard for that art to end up in a print comic.

>>2941832
while plenty of people certainly use it in a dismissive way, there is the other side of the coin where in a comic isn't purely about the draftmanship. as long as you can draw in a way where it reads clearly enough for any viewer to understand what's going on in the image you're more or less there, keep in mind plenty of people read comics purely for the writing and/or visual storytelling elements which don't really rely upon the visuals being the pinnacle of their craft

see something like the original art for OPM or mob 100 or almost literally any webcomic gag strip

pic related is one of my friends favorite comics of all time. he really likes the way the tree is used as diegetic panel boarders

also obligatory posting of that one scene from aoi honoo:
http://leseanthomas.tumblr.com/post/95954870901/omfg-this-show

>>2941862
whops, spent so long looking for that post i forgot the comic

>>2941832
Are you retarded? Of course the individual quality of a comic page can be lower than a full illustration since quantity comes with it. One of the importants parts is storytelling. Whether the art is super detailed or not depends of the author, but it can be very simplified if it focuses on the narration.

>>2941832
Most comic artists wouldn't survive a day as illustrators. Let's not even talk about webcomic artists.
This is a simple fact of life you have to cope with.

>>2941851
https://tapastic.com/episode/193543

No dude the backgrounds are actually fucking amazing. Don't let one panel fool you

>>2941896
a simple fact of life that was pulled right out of your ass and means fuck all

an animator wouldn't survive as an illustrator ? an illustrator wouldn't survive as a sculptor ? an amateur runner wouldn't survive as a kitchen chef ?

>>2941832
>>2941909
The comic looks nice, but the characters look like fucking assholes.

Can someone confirm or at least justify why they seem to be so cunty?

>>2941966
Body language

>>2941832
What is this from?

>>2941832
Inez a qt

>>2944255
http://theinheritorscomic.tumblr.com/

>>2941966
Same here, it's real subtle.

>>2941838
This. Just what? And she finger gun "shoots" it? Like wow okay. This is my problem with most comics because I never know if they're too clever or if the format just sucks for conveying information. Maybe I just haven't read enough of them.

>>2941838
>>2944540
I know the comic, she has superpowers and is going to open it from a distance.

Forgot the name though, sorry.

>>2944540
I assume she has powers of some kind.

>>2944540
>expects to know what's going on from one isolated page that lacks either the beginning or the conclusion of the scene
>the format just sucks for conveying information

seriously?

>>2944540

>>2944973
Why'd they do that to the poor chick. She just wanted some pickles...

>>2944970
Well I enjoy the art first and foremost, but it kind of has that book/movie effect. Where it's a combination but it's almost subpar comparatively? Maybe I'm wrong but I haven't been exposed to many. I liked watchmen but apparently the movie is pretty faithful so why wouldn't I just watch that to get the message. And on the flip side you have a book where you're having an intimate experience with the author, reading his exact thoughts. Idk I have no idea what I'm saying.

Because sequential art can get by with good writing, good art is merely a bonus
See: ONE

>>2941832
Web comics are a form that can get away with relying heavily on story or humor, supplemented by passable art. People read them casually and share them on social media, if they're relateable - which makes them successful. It's also a form where you do better if you post reliably and frequently (so art can take a back seat there) and there's also the fact that there are no gatekeepers (ie publishing companies) policing the quality of content put out, which allows bad artists to find an audience if they have marketable ideas. Either way the bar is lower for web comics because a lot of people out there are indifferent to art quality (due to no training) so long as they're entertained. This doesn't take away from the fact that web comics CAN have phenomenal art - and they aren't inherently a form monopolized by crappy artists.

>>2944973
Comic name?

>>2944974
Because they're the school bullies/antagonists to the main character (the chubby red head). From what I've read so far.

>>2944976
>the movie is pretty faithful
>I have no idea what I'm saying

Clearly.

Either way, don't compare comics to books or movies. It's a different form of narrative that has a long history and it's own tricks for story telling (ie, using the anticipation of the turn of a page to build tension). There are a lot of great comics out there, so if you're interested in the form, read a few before forming an opinion. You mentioned The Watchmen, so maybe try Saga, Hellboy, or The Sandman.

>>2944995
https://tapas.io/episode/193543

(It's been mentioned twice already here)
>>2944513
>>2941909

>>2941862
kek, inspirational.

>>2941832
The characters and the writing seem incredibly obnoxious. It's like it's written by someone who's entire world view is based off of pop culture and fiction.

>>2945022
Have you read the comic or are you basing that off of the images in this thread

>>2941966
that's the point

>>2941909
That page is still kind of shitty. The later pages are much, much better.

>>2945037
I doubt most of the artist people here could even manage something as basic as this last panel.

>>2941832
Don't take it too harshly. Unlike published comics, Webcomics have to way of gatekeeping to keep out bad artists, therefore the average level of art in webcomics is far lower than that of published comics. It might come off as insulting, but it is pretty accurate.
It doesn't mean there can't be good webcomic art, it just means that good webcomic art is more impressive when it happens.

>>2945040
i-im still practising, ill make amazing backgorunds one day, y-youll see

>>2941966
"mean girls" character archetypes

>>2945058
this makes sense
thanks anon

>>2941832
The quality is more impressive when you know the author just does this on the side of her real job. She's an art director for some gaming studio and does art shows on the side of what she does on the side.

>>2945198
You which game studio?

>>2945198
You know which game studio?

>>2941832
Because anyone can upload their webcomic, Of course the average quality is incrediby lower than of published mainstream comics.
So when they say it's "passable for a webcomic" they mean it's bettern than the usual average quality of webcomics