/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Here's something I drew this morning

>>2940498
i have no clue what the fuck i did

Into the dark abyssal hell I go...

>>2939252
It's-a me.
Should I be focusing instead on 30min studies or will this be okay? I just struggle to keep up with the timer. That's normal right? Will this train me to draw faster?

>>2940560
its better to do shorter studies i think.
also show your construction when posting.

>>2940500
How's that?

>>2940521
Well, this time the image is too big. You should resize it to half of its size.

I like what I see, you're definitely improving. However, take a look at these models again:
https://sketchfab.com/models/a1c0dec2a8564e80a62e607bb16db2e7 — female

Men of different races:
https://sketchfab.com/models/7bb018ad519b41cd9611554b6d3ebdac
https://sketchfab.com/models/da03801af1a9467580ad4c48659f9eb4
https://sketchfab.com/models/4a3ac672401843739b25f81cbbac684c

10 minutes into hampton and chill she starts pulling her shirt down and gives you this look. wyd?

>>2940502

>>2940540
You're focusing on 2D shape and latin names when you should be focusing on function and form. Muscles are powerful 3D shapes that pull bones, if your studies don't get that idea across, they are not very beneficial.

I got carried away a bit, but see pic related.

>>2940500
any thought

>>2940500
what do you think

is it true that the more sex you have, the better your drawing becomes

>>2940695
probably to an extent.
its just generally psychologically healthy to at least do it on occasion.

Where do i start /beg/? I just want to learn how to draw in that cartoony western style.

>>2940699
Read the sticky

>>2940699
1. kys
2. sticky

my first time digital painting in photoshop and i have no idea how to blend shit. any good tips/tutorials?

>>2940695
>>2940696

>>2940722
reference pic

Absolute beginner here. Mostly interested in poses at the moment, which I guess I need to learn proper perportion, but I'm trying to make my shit look less ... stiff. But like I said, completely new, and if you think these are bad, you should have seen the stick men before them.

>>2940722
mixer tool

>>2940724
grill or no?

>>2940722
Go on fucking ctrlpaint and learn about brushes and edge control.

>>2940750
Read the sticky. If you're an absolute beginner, then gesture is the least of your problems. You should first start off with life drawings. Read Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson, do the exercises, then move on to perspective, gesture, anatomy, etc. If you can't draw a person in front of you, how can you expect to draw it from imagination?

Reposting my drawing in case nobody saw it.

>>2940772
grill, source pic is Alexandra Gaier

>>2940777

I recognize this gay blow job

>>2940777
i dont know whether its ok to make fun of you.
are you just an incredibly naive soul to be protected or actually retarded?

Just dumping a few more references

>>2940774
>Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson
Thanks!

>>2940786
I believe that kid is either the latter or a troll. In case you didn't notice, she (I doubt a male user would ever use such a design for his tumblr) only replies to what another user aptly called "ass pats" and never listens to critique, only mocking actual attempts to draw "dynamic" poses.

>>2940777
>>2940818

Autism, many such cases!

>>2940818
>she only replies to what another user aptly called "ass pats" and never listens to critique, only mocking actual attempts to draw "dynamic" poses.

Explain? Did this person disregard your advice or something on tumblr?

>>2940818
why would such a person post on 4chan.

This is of the guy in the first post.

>>2940824
pretty good for stylised

>>2940820
Are you a newbie here? Look up her (?) posts in the previous threads starting from March or February and follow the discussions. All of her images are called "image.png", I believe, so you can use that for quick search.

>>2940821
Well, duh, I wonder.

tell me about hair, how do i draw it?
spaghetti strands dont look so good

>>2940837
this just makes me feel like she is a fragile and delicate mind who is finding pleasure in creating something aesthetic and receiving "critique" from the community. i feel quite awful whenever i think this to know such naive purity will inevitably be stamped on by this place.

if you are reading, and you probably are, please respond telling me that you are trolling or actually retarded. for my conscience.

This is my first realistic drawing ever. The left one is the first attempt after which I felt deep sadness and wanted to die. But then I tried again after 5 minutes of depression and did a little better. I know the hair is horrible but I was focusing on the face. Do I have any potential? I'm 22 btw, is it too late?

>>2940843
Draw lines beneath where a mass of hair greater than 1 would create a shadow

>>2940695
>>2940696
Of course not, you brainlets. Nothing will improve your shit drawings besides getting better at drawing.

>>2940613
well, I would be a bit frightened at the sight of her skin tearing apart into two, so there's that

Like a stormtrooper I've missed everything.

>close eyes
>see visions of the shitty loomis heads i draw
end me

>>2940958
>he's so bad at drawing he gave himself ptsd by looking at his drawings

>>2940902
Hey, her face still looks good at least.

They are sharing roadkill photos.

>>2941003
please tell me you are a troll or a retard. i couldnt bare it if you were such a sheltered person posting here.

why havent you taken the dodge-pill yet /beg/?
why bother shading or adding colour when you can just dodge/burn your way to better rendering.

>>2941007
he's been at it for awhile. just click the litte dropdown and be on your way

>>2941003
Who are these from anyway

Foreshortening problems: poses like this are the freakin hardest for me. I decomposed it into boxes and got it up to the pelvis... but then i look at her right leg (the extremely foreshortened one) and have no idea what to do.
Made it into tubes to try to get a grasp of it but really can't figure it out.
How would you proceed in this case?

>>2940858
it's alright for a first attempt, definitely not cringe-worthy or anything

and it's never too late senpai of course starting early is better, but even if you were in your forties it would still be worth doing as long as you enjoyed doing it

>>2941029
(cont) pic related, i really couldn't figure out that leg so accomodated to have her less "crouched"... but now it looks like the figure is about to poo.

Did i even get the torso and pelvis right?
Any help here would be appreciated

>>2940603
I've saved all of the models; perhaps I'll do some studies of them soon. Truly brilliant reference material, thank you

>>2941012
Because it doesn't fucking work, I learned that on my second week. The reason is the way those tools work.

>>2941027
dreamlagoon.tumblr.com

Which drogo is best drogo?
Halp

Which drogo is best drogo?

What the fuck do I do if I can't draw symmetrically? I flip the image and everything looks fucking off

>>2941062
Flip it, fix it, flip it again, fix it again, till it looks good both ways. Don't draw from start to finish without flipping. If you're drawing traditionally.. well idgaf, use mirrors or some voodo

started learning proper figure drawing yesterday. starting with gesture, these are my first ever.

any pointers moving forward? glaring errors?

i am not sure where to draw the line bw gestural line of action and contours. i noticed in some examples by proko and hampton they indicate the flesh of a calf, for example, with two contour lines, instead of a single "gesture" line. i am guessing it's still ok? as long as these quasi-contours still reflect the character of the gesture?

>>2941083
forgot pic lol

>>2941056
The first one, no matter its sex.

>>2940858
think of the hair as shapes and then give those a bit of a texture

>>2941033
Line quality and perspective are out of whack. Scott Robertson would help a lot.

>>2941099
i think he is past that. boxes are a little off but generally its p good

>>2941056
Damn, 1 is op as fuck
Blog?

>>2941113
it's like those morons on /g/ asking for source on gifs with the source in the file names..

Is there another good place to start besides Loomis? I've tried his first book so many times, and I just can't get into it.

>>2941104
the boxes are fundamentally incorrect and indicate a lack of training in perspective. the ellipses only prove the point further - the degrees are wrong for the angles at which they are viewed.

ANYONE can chicken-scratch out a halfway ok box. what that doesn't mean is that you understand the thought process necessary to use them correctly.

>>2941118
having looked a bit harder, i agree about the boxes. solution is drawabox and 3d space exercises.

>>2941117
keys

>>2941122
>Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson
Keys seems neat.

>tfw got basic knowledge of fundamentals
>no motivation to draw something because i have no creativity or waifus i like to draw

>>2941146
go and find an instance of beauty or culture near you. try and find inspiration.

>>2940695
Incels are better at drawing since they channel all of that incel rage into their studies.

why am i not improving

>>2941288
literally impossible to give a genuine answer without more information

>>2941288
post Your WORK

>>2941291
been posting my drawings for months in here and rarely get any responses, the ones i do are really weird cryptic replies like "what are you doing", im literally bursting in tears here because i have been drawing every single day and all that effort at the end has been meaningless, litearlly no results. i am a total wreck, i've been crying the past 2 hours in my room i dont know what to do anymore

>>2941303
POST youR FUCKING WORK

>>2941303
>crying

lmao its just drawing

if you show where you started and where you are now, i'll try to give you something in-depth

What should I read after Keys to Drawing?
I'm getting near the end. Perspective Made Easy?

>>2941303
git gud

I dun geddit.

>>2941388
>have to learn advanced calculus before i can draw

Fuck. This is taking longer than it should. Or rather, I should have spent more time painting it instead of lurking the web and doing dumb doodles. At least most of the work is done. Making a proper background shouldn't be so tiresome, right?..

Now, plz bully me and my lacking skills.
P. S. I wish I could give her a beautiful face she deserves...

>>2941322
pretty good advice there

>>2941412
That face looks very skewed.

>>2941412
>give her a beautiful face she deserves

You'll realize that things get a lot easier (especially "stylizing" like this) if you understand how things like form and light work in real life. Right now it doesn't really look too appealing to look at... almost unsettling. But if that's how you roll then power to you.

>>2941099
>>2941118
Thank you friend. Do you have any source for Scott Robertsons' lessons on perspective? Those are what you mean, right?

made my first painting, critique please

>>2941420
Yeah, I know. It's sad when you fail to even draw the face of your waifu attractively.

>>2941424
>> Right now it doesn't really look too appealing to look at... almost unsettling.
Uh, the face or the whole picture?

>>2941428
fucked up finner.

I like it a lot.

>>2941428
we got a time traveler here yo

>>2941428
if matisse actually posted this today he would be told to read the sticky

>>2941435
>>2941447
oh. I didnt know it was famous. Still like it tho....still fucked up finner

>>2941303
>the ones i do are really weird cryptic replies like "what are you doing"
just feel it out lmao

>>2941428
blog?

>>2941412
>>2941420
I'm not a painter. Im not an artist. I dont like anime shit. Idk what your going for, but I fucked around with your work in ms paint. Maybe it will help

Studies
Trying to make cleaner lines.

>>2940499
Well, it could have gone worse.

Any tips for doing values / shading? I mean obviously there are a lot of issues with this, but I'm really lost when it comes to anything shading / coloring related.

>>2941495
While I'm not good enough to give workflow advice, I can say that working on a white background made things harder for me, so try not doing that, at the very least block the whole thing on a new layer underneath with a mid-value, I Like 25% grey

>>2941099
>>2941029
>>2941033
hello
this girl is beautiful so i drew her for practice because i am beginner

>>2941517
here is ink

>>2941518
>>2941517
>>2941518
The sillohuette is incorrect, if you had started with that the whole thing would be better.

>>2941506
Huh. Thanks; I'll try that from now on.

Digging the Yalpen, by the way.

>>2941495
Scott robertson's how to render will teach you how to fix the problem. Also remember a change in plane is a change in value and since the face has many planes you will have more values than what you have. you understand basic concept of shadows and how they are on planes facing away from the light but you still need to study more (reflected light, core shadow, how different hues have different greyscale values even on the when on same brightness, hue shifting, ambient light, etc.

>>2941529
pretty easy to say that in hindsight
i see that you're right though could you help me fix it? i am still learning

Redline plz

Mostly on the feet, legs and hand.

>>2941447
Had he read the sticky maybe fine art wouldn't be shit now.

>>2941539
Simply put, Take more time starting out, that's what I've been struggling with for literally years and am only now realizing it, working in sketchbooks and digitally removes the permenance of your (or at least my) work and so you rush to the fun stuff, yes we all probably -can- draw a box in perspective well enough, but how many of us -do- when faced with practice time, up until recently, not me.

>>2941546
i looked at it and thought the same thing, it's good to know i wasn't wrong about it. i think the problem is the angle of the arm and leg correct? i will study more and make you proud

>>2941546
cant even get this shit right huh

>>2941518

>>2941567
thank you, i rushed too much i see

>>2941537
Gah, right, good notes to keep in mind for sure,
and How to Render looks to be just the kind of resource I was hoping to come across. Thank you, truly.

>>2941564
excuse me sir, but i think those feet are too small.
my studies have told me that the foot should be able to fit on the inside of the forearm.

>>2941571
I think the lesson here is to think about macro angles. your local shapes/sizes are good.

>>2941571

>>2941581
Alright, how is this? Stretched it out to the sameish size but it looks weird to me.

Tell me what am i doing wrong before I continue working next monday

>>2941578
You are welcome. I also have another tip anon, try bridgman's complete guide to drawing from life. Check the sticky or the Discord for any more resources and practice on your own for a week or two before jumping back in here. You'll make it anon, I'm sure

Anon do you know of subsurface scattering? I think it might help if you maybe put a thin border of slightly a slightly more saturated and lighter version of your shadow color in between the shadow and the light area. Also, if the hand is being lit that much from the front then her hand should have a lot more light than what you have there.

>>2941593
http://www.floobynooby.com/ICG/artvalues.html
Here's a resource just in case that was too confusing.

>>2941588
It looks much better. Everyone starts with this problem, they always make the hands and feet much smaller than they actually are. Feet have to be long and triangular to support our weight.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>2941604
subu is very uncomfortable. the drawing is mostly good though

>>2941608
is there anything more autistic than talking in 3rd person

>>2941146
If you love drawing waifus, then draw waifus.

Fill a book with them. Draw different positions, different shading. Different volumes and different numbers of lines.

Each time you do it right, take a note and keep going.

If you get bored, draw muscly waifus.

>>2941644
whats going on with her right wrist

Faust. I decided to make this after seeing a Rembrandt gravure of Faust.


Opinions?

>>2941648
whats going on with his right wrist

Thoughts?

>>2941644
I ain't an expert, but I think the perspective of the hair, horns, and bow is wrong (relative to the face).
and her left eye (right eye for the viewer) is slightly higher than the other?
and like >>2941646 points out, there's something fucky going on with her hands

pretty Kanna, tho.

My third finished drawing in this thread already.

>>2941713
1) See bait
2) Press ▶
3) Press "Hide Post"
4) Profit

so i reviewed steve huston's freebie and what i get is you mark down measurements and then bullshit the rest. i know there's the advanced lesson where he gets more LOOMIS but why doesn't anyone tell you it's this easy?

>>2941726
>people tell you it's easy
>/beg/inners whine and say it's not
???

>>2941604
nice body horror, the leg is overdesign though
>>2941638
its moe
>>2941412
nice rendering but the face is still shite and the body is off.
>>2941303
which posts are yours?

>>2941654
7/10 id fucker

fuck this is hopeless isnt it?

>>2941856
"The device is called a Psychic Dominator..."

what do i do to not end up like eric?

>>2941858
next time eric, just ask "what should i be doing right?"

>>2941857
what is that it sounds neat

>>2941858
i think the root of my problems is i try to take too much stuff on at once

>>2941861
what should i be doing right? im having a lot of trouble with the lighting and the fact that the tower stuff is sort of grey scale, against the clouds which are also sort of grey scale

>>2941873
im not sure desu. you've gotten to the stage where there arent many objective things you are doing wrong. i think you need to be more mindful about your practice or perhaps just practice more hours. you've spent time grinding the 3d space and line exercises right?

I don't want to disturb by creating an entirely new thread for just a small question.

I am looking for the name of the art style in pic related. I am sure it has European influence. Thanks in advance.

>>2941483
Ew. 3d disgusting.
What I was going for is this, if we remove the hair and most of the shading, but:
1) My construction was incorrect from the beginning and the lines are wobbly, to add to that.
2) I stopped caring about these lines after I started rendering.
3) I myself don't clearly understandthe exact angle I wanted to show. I think I wanted to make her glance at the viewer who's about 30 degrees to the left of her head's direction...

The outcome is only natural, I guess. Btw, disregard the "jawline", it's just a leftover from the hair.

I wonder what would be more productive: trying to fix the face in this or leaving it be as a memorial to my mistakes. Both worked for me in the past.

>>2941893
>you've spent time grinding the 3d space and line exercises right?
what are those? i mean ive done peter hans line exercises. as for perspective i havent done a whole lot of formal studying

>>2941916
you should probably do that i think

>>2941914
you're still thinking in 2d which is why it's coming out so fucked up

talk less and work more

>>2941918
shit infographic, not sure what you get by fucking up people who are in the learning process of drawing

>>2941929
whats wrong with it

>>2941914
Could you please put the face in the right place? 3D construction is important even for anime waifus.

>>2941914
Could you please put the face in the right place? 3D construction is important even for anime waifus.
Edit: added pic

>>2941932
we need people like you in /beg/. thanks for being here.

>>2941932
why the derp eyes?

any idea to get hair the "right way" ?
i've tried a trillion combinations of hairstyles but they never look good
if i use a reference it comes out okay though
my favourite artists use like minimal lines to explain hwo the hair moves so i'd try to mimick that as well but it aint working out great.

>>2941932
I could try and learn, and hopefully master drawing heads in a period of time not exceeding another month, since it'd be a "bery shamefur dispray" if I'm unable to draw a proper head from any angle even after four months.
Thanks for the image, saved. His (?) eyes seem to be misaligned, though.

>>2940560
Have to do my daily or I won't get gud. Trying to de-stress myself while drawing, it really isn't that painful once you're drawing. The dread beforehand is painful.

>>2940563
Thank you, I'll do that.

>>2940563
have i gone back in time? i posted the exact same response word for word to eric like a month ago? are you alternate timeline me?

i feel like this contradicts everything i have been taught about horizontal lines from different angles.

I would like some critique on this one... The background is not ready but ye.
(Picture resized to be rule-friendly)

does anyone know if the Turcom TS-6580 is good?
its bigger and half the price than the wacom intuos draw.

>>2941978
ok for what it is

>>2941975
What's the problem?

>>2941918
why not just post a link to drawabox since thats all that infographic is?

>>2941991
i had thought that the one no the right would be vertically straight down too. i thought that no matter what angle a vertical line is always vertical.

>>2941975
How accurate is a loomis head? I thought headshapes were more like straight lines instead of a simple circle

>>2941996
Verticals are straight down in one point perspective (when your eyesight is parallel to the ground), when you look up or down verticals start to converge somewhere above/below horizon line.
If instead of looking up in sketchfab you'd hold middle mouse button and move up/down there would be no vertical convergence, since you will be still looking straight ahead

>>2942013
ah i got you. thanks.

>>2942013
one point and two point*

>>2941982
Yesterday I took a dump, a mighty behemoth of a turd and lord did it stink. Yet I fished a single colossus hunk of fecal matter from the toilet and ported it onto a plate. Not just any plate, my good china. I set the table elegantly and began to play classical music from my expensive but tasteful sound system.

Then I sat down to my turd, my glorious shit and began by inhaling it's delicate scent. It smelled like poop. Turning it over with my hands, not wanting to waste it on mere silverware, I inspected every crevice of my veritable Mount. Shitmore, yet where the faces of Presidents might have been there were only corn kernels and the occasional undigested bean. The beans and corn kernels I set aside for later use. Delicately, I tore a small portion of waste and smeared it across my lips so as to give myself shit lips. Then I took the remaining dooky, fashioned it into a cylinder not entirely dissimilar to a shit dildo and began to fellate it. Each time the poop graced my tongue I was greeted with a foul taste that could only be described my fecal matter.

Finally I could take no more of the foul substance. I had to have it. As Beethoven's Ode to Joy reached a mighty crescendo so too did I as I stuffed the log into mouth and swallowed, pissing my pants in joy as I did so. I blacked out in happiness and the memory of this event was blurry forever after and yet it seemed that before I had fallen into a restful slumber I had updated my journal. Carefully, I opened it and read the days entry detailing what it was that I had done. I was appalled until I found a single entry that described the event:

>It was good for what it was

>>2942028
Welp, fuck my overly vivid imagination and fuck me for reading that till the end for god-knows-what reason.

>>2942028
Pls be a girl

Gotta crack that chicken scratch habit.

>>2942079
Something seems wrong with the top left girl's arm, it seems broken. Also, your poses are a little stiff

uploading some gestures.

plz critique plz

>>2941428
Pretty good

>>2942078
Sorry anon.

Damned be the day I decided to learn how to draw. Now I cannot even enjoy vidya without guilt. It's either draw and suffer or or just suffer.

誰も私のために祈っていません

>>2941589
Pls respond

>>2942249
i have reached the point where i genuinely want you to be shot in the fucking head so that you wont post your shit anymore. go away.

Do i keep drawing blooks till mine look even half as good as loomis? Mine look retarded. Is that what you do in general? Repeat a page till you got something decent then move on?

>>2942249
No, and if you do you should shoot yourself.

>>2942194
life is to suffer
you are living

>>2941904
English idiosyncratic?
Maybe Synthetic Cubism
Try googling Primitivism
Also, try Googling ClipArt

>>2942307
Also try Googling Vorticism; I think that's what you were looking for

>>2942286
Analyse your mistakes. With your left blook, the facial features are not vertically aligned with each other though they are horizontally.

The heads must be drawn as basic 3d shapes FIRST. Ellipses must be used to keep facial features aligned in perspective.

This all requires approximation. Remember that all the lines that curve around the blooks face are just ellipses

Come on, give me feedback

>>2942310
THANK YOU!

>>2942360
I don't think arms bend that way.

>>2942360
his forearm is perpendicular to his hand, try doing that with your own hand without breaking your wrist

Well, fuck, I give up. Let's attempt drawing attractive animoo faces another time, after I recover from this PTSD.

>>2942268

>posting art
>warrants being shot

thisniggaseriouslol.jpg

>>2942268

oh no better not post my art then!

>>2942268

you are a f a g g o t

>>2942268

i h a t e youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>>2942268

cause see you suck and hating yet i never see you p o s t y o u r a r t

>>2942268

good luck im behind 7 delusional egos

>>2940536
Cute

>>2940777
keep doing your thing anon, maybe your style will evolve into something cool.

>>2942548
more eyes

>>2941589
looks okay fampai

When do memes become dreams?
I just want to draw cute anime girls.

Why do I feel like I fell for the Loomis meme? Every time I try to draw portrait the way Loomis does in his book It looks like utter shit, but when I try it the way Vilppu explained it, it doesn't look as shit, should I just ditch Loomis and focus on Vilppu more?

>>2942573
Yeah.
Try different techniques and pick whatever works best for you.
I usually finish book even if they are not working as well for me tho.
There could be bits of info that may be helpful for you later.

>>2942567
You are almost there.

Keep going

>>2942579
Yea, figured as much, thanks anon.

>>2942364
>>2942372
I drew it and realized it looked pretty weird, so I took a picture of my hand in that position and drew it again.

I'm pretty sure I can bend my hand that way, but I understand completely why you don't think it's possible. I can't really tell where things begin to get weird, but holding a beaker horizontally is 100% possible.

Could you help me telling why it looks so weird? I drew it once more, but it still doesn't work.

how the FUCK do i make drawing with a tablet feel normal? i've been trying for weeks and weeks and it feels fucking impossible

>>2942361
Np

I fergot wher da reference pic wuz but i tried

>>2942588
I think it's a matter of unconvincing foreshortening with his arm. Idk how to fix it.

>>2942585
>almost

lol

>>2940498
I have 3 1/2 hours of ridiclious cold night shift left - I want to try something new with you guys: You can see my "skill level" with the sketches I did in ~10 mins (yeah yeah I suck I'll kill myself later) on the left. If you want me to help you with a drawing just answer to this comment. If you think I suck too hard to help anyone don't reply.

I think that's a fair middle ground because so many anons around here dish out tipps but never show their capabilities. I know you don't need to me Loomis level to give tipps but generally I think knowing the other person at least a tiny bit helps and all... just for perspective reasons.

I hope you get what I mean... i'm super tired and cold.... sorry if this ended up as gibberish.

Attempted a tree from imagination. How am I doing?

>>2942650
Pretty barebone - you should use a reference for now. Trees are a beautiful thing to draw: You can use the roots to pierce the ground and make some moss crawl up there - the branches can create a beautiful labyrinth and extent anywhere helping you to forge interesting depths and tunnels for your audience. There are so many more details to trees - The outside of the leafs should be really light while the inner parts are dark and all in all treees can be beautiful value studies.

So really - give it more depth and remember trees life in three dimensional space.

ooops fergot 2 change img siz and roitate

>>2940498
So I just cracked open Hampton the other day and I already know some of the basics of figure drawing, even took a class on it, but I still seem to be struggling with creating fluent lines and exaggerated gestures. Like I'm still trying to copy details instead of getting the form and it could be a habit I picked up. My drawings look ill concieved and nothing close to Hamptons. Could some kind anon help me out here? Do these look semi coherent?

>>2942689
These aren't gesture drawing - you are already a step too far - you are doing construction - gestures are only the C and S curves - then landmarks - then forms - then draw the rest of the fucking owl. I tried to demonstrate it.

Are they cute yet?

>>2942702
Honestly your linework is really fucking smooth - I'd recommend going away from the theory a bit and instead drawing some refs - just so you can use what you learned and can apply it. People don't look as perfect as Loomis draws them.

>>2942699
Fucking hell your right I never even learned the first basic steps, no wonder they look stiff and blobby. Thanks anon looks like I have a lot of practice to do.

>>2942706
I get you - I never understood why the amazing senpai is doing fucking stick figures - until I understood it.

I know this sounds cheesy as fuck but when I draw from imagination I actually like to close my eyes so I can focus more on what I have in mind and simply draw the first gestures 'blind'.

my own eye from mirror took bout 4h

>>2942711
argh shit its the outdated pic

>>2942710
Its hard to figure out on your own I know, every artist goes through it. Sounds like you've already got your own process and techniques down, good for you anon.

>>2942713
pic still shit tier quality but here is the right one

>>2942716
Well I'm also this cunt >>2942648 I just draw too much from imagination I really need to stop that... besides I've been drawing for 12 years ( actually all my life) took me long enough to get a few simple things into my stupid head.

>>2942718
Pretty hard to say much about it. It looks pretty alright. Any specific thing you want to talk about? I don't like how ypu smugded the area under the eye though.

>>2942723
yeh the smudging was to add skin texture over it but then i got bored of this ideai have no rubber here cause im backpacking in nz and im in the middle of nowhere so i cant buy one.

i just like drawing eyes but i suck at full bodys so i want to learn it.

ty for reply anon

>>2942720
Please stop being so hard on yourself anon, it makes me sad I like your drawings. :( Just finish your shift and get some rest. You can tackle this tomorrow.

>>2942728
Aw that's pretty sweet of you thank you :). I drew an artwork all day and finished it just in time before work but it didn't turn out as expected and i'm still super pissed about that.

You do real gesture drawings I'm looking forward to the results!

get a room faggots

>>2942567
within what it is, i like it.

>>2941932
was this supposed to be a guy or a girl?

>>2942756
Get a heart anon. Hang on I can share a bit happiness with you... ...

Just gonna share this exercise I decided to spend my evening on, I pulled up a walk around video from a major city, slowed it down to half speed, and did gestures from there.

>>2942760
Not Anon but I'd say it's a guy.

>>2942764
You should stick to basics like posemaniacs or general other refs for now. I think though generally a good idea - this exercise is still too much for you.

Give yourself the time you need to trully observe the motions and gestures.

please rate. i've been drawing for 8 years

>>2942774
I don't know if this is a meme or not. The colours are horrible - there's some form to the figure and you drew something in one point perspective.

Give us more to work with.

>>2942771
Nah senpai, "Too Much for you" is a meme made by shitters to get you to stay on thier levels. Now, I'm no talented artist but I've learned plenty of other things on a more than average level and the first thing I learned was that you go first into somthing that seems to difficult because it's what you want and you will keep working at it. Nobody improves thier game by playing against shitty players, you go for those better than you and learn what doesn't work so you can stop doing it faster. I'm also a bit confused as to how you would seek to improve 5 second gestures, not 30.

>>2942774
>>2942779
here's another

>>2942783
>Play FPS against bots for years
>Thinks it's brilliant to start with 100% bots
>Will be most amazing player ever
>Never learn the basics and suck forever because the bots kill you instantly

If you already know everything there's really no reason to post here - isn't it? Please when you post next time add a disclaimer that you only want praise so I won't waste my time on you again. Thanks a lot.

>>2942787
Wait what? None of this post has any relevance to what it's a reply to, are you projecting? And on top of that you're implying your time has intrinsic value that anyone else should give a shit about. Post your work or neck yourself you kumquat avocado bitchcake.

>>2942784
That's far more helpful. Are you generally into scenery drawings? Right now what I miss the most ( besides the usual haha fundamentals) is a concept - where do you want your audience to look at - you are not guiding the spectator through the image - hope this video will help you with what I mean. https://youtu.be/1McYZX6KScg

Besides that I'm not really a scenery artist - still I'd suggest to take a look into the FAQ - especially perspective and forms - you've already proven with the human in the other picture that you generally know what these things are - but a fresh up wouldn't hurt.

Also looks at refs and how light hits an object bounces off and where shadows are created - why and how.

>>2942788
I've already posted my work more than once here - thank you anon >>2942699 . The reason you came here is to get tips - the girl is missing any kind of form - and this is not a gesture drawing anymore. Her right lower leg is too long her left arm is too long as well and so on. She feels weighless - that's why I'm saying take your time with references - learn weight distribution and the keystones of construction.

There is no reason to be this childishly hostile - and yes I value my time - tough I'm just waiting for my shift to end - I don't get why people post here if they don't expect criticism.

>>2942790
no I'm not generally scenery guy. i started reading perspective made easy so I've been trying to practice some of that stuff. thanks for the advice ill check out that video and try again

Digital beginner here. I just got an Intuous the other day and can't seem to get used to it. Any Tablet Tips™?

Done for tonight. Life studies tomorrow.
I must go cuter.

>>2942795
>I don't get why people post here if they don't expect criticism.
Hyphenated run on sentences aside, you seem to confuse critique with criticism, any shitposting counts as criticism, this post here that I'm replying to right now is a critique, albeit one I plan to ignore as I disagree but still, far more valuable than
>>2942771
As it was plainly stated, "Just gonna share this exercise I decided to spend my evening on" thus the assumption that a critique was wanted in the first place was projecting in and of itself (Just because -I- only post for critique everyone else must as well, regardless if they say otherwise and if they do, well they just aren't posting for the correct reason). Secondly the poorly constructing and logically flawed straw-manning of
>>2942787
combined with the closing of, "so I won't waste my time on you again. Thanks a lot." seemed to indicate a general disregard for civil posting. Hence the 'childish hostility' (glass houses much?). And finally, long posts are both obnoxious and a waste of time since-
A. Nobody cares, you're going to glance over this, disregard any points I made or just summarize them as being 'wrong' since anything else requires a thoughtful reply and/or admitting you are flawed, both unlikely to happen. (inb4 'i have no problem admitting flaws but -insert blah blah here-)
B. Even if they do care, 4chan an indeed written forums in general are poorly suited for intellectual discussion as they facilitate hasty alt-tabbing and poor research methods, as well as using obtuse language to hide valid points.

>>2942816
Use a harder brush. Be more confident in your edges.

>>2942816
Do you have problems with the projection? Might be worth working on your hand eye coordination - took me a good month getting used to an intuos - and my hand eye coordination is pretty good. Don't get discouraged!

help

i just want to draw cute naked girls

what do

>>2942830
grind for a couple years

bam

>>2942819

>>2942788
>Post your work or neck yourself you kumquat avocado bitchcake.

>And finally, long posts are both obnoxious and a waste of time

- you are really over thinking this bro. Don't take critisicm so personal. Anon didn't want to hurt you.

>>2942718
Quite nice, but it shouldn't take so much time to draw a single eye.

>>2942831
but i want to draw them now

>>2942839
Then draw them now and just lower your standards

>>2942839
ngmi

>>2942839
Buy this and you're guaranteed to start shitting out AAA illustrations even with no experience.

How do you get your blooks to look clean like loomis, mine are trash still. Guess ill grind this blook till it clicks. Tear it apart. What did i do wrong.

>>2942784
cool water dude

>>2942901
Learn how the shapes look/work on their own.
Try drawing cubes and spheres on their own then work on putting them together.

The shapes you're using for the nose,cheeks and chin look very flat.

I'm just starting out with drawing on the right side of the brain and my first attempt of upside down drawing came out like this, I've kind of spooked myself that I'm going to learn wrong due to this outcome. Is it normal for a first attempt to come out like this or am I not thinking the right way about this?

>>2942901
Also a lot of your features don't line up.
Draw some straight lines across to make sure the ears, eyes, cheeks, etc. line up.

>>2942911
that's fine, try it with a different line drawing, something that you like the look of, try to concentrate on the lines and their relationship to eachother and ignore the picture. the point of the exercise is really just to show you that you're physically capable of making a pretty good drawing.

Hey /beg/, I just bought the large Huion GT-220 but have mostly been doing traditional and am trying to transition to digital. What are the best resources to get into the digital flow? I'm downloading some Ctrl+Paint stuff right now.

Redid a pin up from about a month ago.
I'm sure I still made a lot of the same mistakes though.

I'm not sure I'm going down the right track. I forgot to post yesterday, but here's the drawings I made for the LAS yesterday and this morning

>>2942972
Good god I forgot the file

>>2940498
I've been struggling with this head angle for quite a while. Can anyone give me tips on how I can improve and draw it better?

>>2940500

fug

>>2942979
I think the Loomis method is practically useless if the only underlying construction you consider is the cranium, just that sphere that has redacted, flat sides.

While what you're doing is totally viable it's unlikely you're actually going to remember how this particular head is formed. To da that: you need to learn the Reilly method. Look up some videos concerning Frank Reilly; it'll teach you how to properly consider some elements that are behind here such as iterating the cheekbone and discovering how far back the eye is pushed into the socket

>>2942987

Thanks, yeah I've had a lot of trouble using loomis to draw heads at extreme angles.

>>2942548
Need Crits for this

>>2942976

>>2943004
it's a thousand eyes, what do you possibly want

draw a thousand more from life - draw bigger, take more time with them, and try not to symbol draw

>>2943009
Is there a significant enough problem here that I should keep practicing eyes or perhaps do them in a different way? Or should I go back to grinding out heads.

>>2942976
>>2943006
I fucking hate /ic/

>>2942835

yeh but 4h include just sitting there and looking at my eye to figure what and how do draw it on the paper + the normal refining of shadows etc.
i still could need some tips for making eyes look really glossy and wet . still struggeling with that .

SHIFT END BOYZ no more cooking tonight ayy :D

>>2943006
he is the hero /ic/ deserves...

no comment

>>2941483
Man... How did you make it worse

>>2943068
try to change your background to a midtone just to see how it looks :D

>>2942432
IV looks best desu. Those sunglasses are clearly distorted making the incorrect anatomy even more obvious. Plus those aren't very fashionable looking sunglasses.

>>2943075
it.. just blank...

>>2941388
Keep the center of vision consistent when you're adding more vanishing points.

eg If you have a set of 2pp VPs and a set of 3pp VPs in your illustration, don't make the mistake of placing them in such a way that creates 2 distinct center's of vision in your picture. Both sets of VPs must share the same center of vision.

>>2943078
yeah but if you add a background it may look really dope and the highlights in the face will profit from it .
:3

>>2943082
thanks to makes me spend more time in paint :3

>>2943089
keep going dude you will get there :D ;)

>>2943089
>>2943093

Get a room already, fruity motherfuckers.

>>2943094
why? wanna join?

>>2941713
I really admire you're consistency.

>>2943096

How is this for Perspective and Design sketching /beg/ homework? Too lazy? Any advice?

>>2943112
still less lazy than 88% of /beg/

>>2942949
I think the bath looks weirder than before, but I barely remember anything about the last version by now.

>>2942972
>>2942973
Quite good, keep going.

>>2943061
Glossy and wet simply means more highlights and softer, blurred edges.

>>2943077
I concur.

>>2943112
Oohh, that's some quality gun porn, baby, but please make it even better and bigger.
No, srsly, those guns make me want to own them. Probably a sign that I hadn't gone plinking for too big a while.

>>2941967
Posting today's daily.
Edit: resized pic. (who would look at this though? lol)

what do you guys think of this? I'm thinking of doing another version in more detail, where should I start?

>>2943147
Yeah I'm a retard who doesn't understand perspective and thought I could salvage the crooked bottom line by making it appear as tough it tapered but I just now realized that's not how it works.
This was the old one.

I'm rather happy with my gestures but I always have trouble moving to the next stage

What should I practice?

>>2943189
The previous version of the bath looked better, but your anatomy improved considerably. Just fix the perspective, then make the leg sleeker, and finally check the position and the orientation of your eyes and eyebrows... and, I suppose, we can consider this a proper lineart.

>>2943282
Moving to the next stage. Finding out what works better for you: construction, fluid contours, or painting values.

>>2943286
*bathtub
I think I'm getting old.

>>2943286
>>2943290
Alright thanks I'll fix that up.

I am having the hardest time seeing things in 3D. Beyond drawing a cube, I just cant seem to identify how it gets form. :(

>>2943318
wtf? why is it vertical? It's horizontal on my desktop. :/

>>2943320
phones are stupid

>>2943325
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>>2943325
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>>2943325
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>>2943325
>>2943325
>>2943325

I am still a beginner. Started drawing on a tablet for fun. I use a lot of reference and sometimes I copy lines over some parts.

>>2943410
2spooky4me
But I still think it looks pretty good! Maybe try some Sans or Papyrus next. :D