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>plagiarises
>has an artbook he's selling
>none of his works are actually interesting
>makes 3.6k a week

How did Ilya/Kronprinz get away with the shit he's doing?

>> No.2923369
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>> No.2923375

by being an amazingly skilled artist :P

>> No.2923385

>>2923375
Define "amazingly skilled".

>> No.2923395
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2923395

Because normies have zero artistic sensibility, nor do they care about plagiarism.

Here come the russian fanboys

>> No.2923399

>>2923368
Vendettas are against the rules.

>> No.2923402

>>2923395
Never fails to make me laugh.

>> No.2923415

>>2923368
>>2923395

>normies have zero artistic sensibility, nor do they care about plagiarism.
THIS

Stop trying to impress your peers or 'senpais'
You only need to impress normies or autists to get their money

>> No.2923434

>>2923415
I'm not a hack so I can't impress normies, how do I impress autists?

>> No.2923446

>>2923368
i'm glad this meme hasn't died since the last time i was here
just focus on improving your own art
if someone gets away with copying someone else's art with some small tweaks, then good for him, it's his life not yours
it's all in the mindset and we're all different in that regard, so maybe you should work on nourishing your strengths instead of looking for shortcuts

>> No.2923456

>>2923434
Hentai.

>> No.2923463

>>2923434
cater to their fetishes, example : furries

>> No.2923496
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>>2923456
>>2923463
>Hentai
>cater to their fetishes, example : furries

>> No.2923501

>>2923395
hahahah

>> No.2923522

>>2923496
l o l

>> No.2923603

>>2923369
What's with that right hand?
Also
> perspective of the stockings is different even though the legs are in the same direction

>> No.2923607

>>2923603
>perspective of the stockings is different even though the legs are in the same direction

He is clearly above your level of perception, it was done on purpose.

>> No.2923634

This is fucking embarrasing. Besides that, how is this fun? What kind of satisfaction does this give you?

>> No.2923645

>>2923634
It's fast and easy. I'm surprised he does it at his level though, he's not a beginner 13-year old-deviantart user creating their "OC", it's someone that earns money for their art.

>> No.2923703

>>2923395
Thank you for saving it, I thought I'd never see it again

>> No.2923717

>>2923375
>relying heavily on reference
>"amazingly skilled"
Yeah no. Nothing he does is terribly inspired in any way, shape, or form, of showing especially great technical skills. He does middling to good portraits and that's about it, he's no better than say, Sakimichan or the like.
>>2923395
This guy knows what's up.
>>2923446
This kind of thing shouldn't be overlooked, because then aspiring young artist believe this is ok. And, if you care about your art at all and do actually git gud, you probably wouldn't want other people using your art to make money. This isn't bad because he's copying shit, who gives a fuck. It's bad because he's making money off of other's work, and that's reprehensible.

>> No.2923828
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How do they keep getting away with it?

>> No.2923831

I honestly dont see a problem with this. I use reference for drawings all of the time.

Just another thread to bitch and moan and gossip about something instead of drawing I guess.

>> No.2923837
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>>2923831
There's a difference between using reference and straight up copying someone else's work but with "muh style" and passing it off as an "homage" to the original

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>>2923831
Oh yes, """ referencing""". He referenced soooo much some of the thumbnails look the same.

>> No.2923861

>>2923840
>>2923837

Tracing isnt illegal

>inb4 muh artistic honor

>> No.2923863

>>2923861
It is when you're making money off of it.

>> No.2923874

>>2923863
>implying fanart comissions aren't a thing

>> No.2923877

>>2923861
It is illegal, though.

Copyright infringement is illegal.
When you literally copy an existing visual work, you can no longer play the "b-b-but it's fanart" card, as you are not infringing upon a concept, but a literal, physical work.

>> No.2923888

>>2923874
You're being retarded.

Fanart is the use of a character in a new work.
Tracing is literal copying of a work for which you have no right to copy (hence copyright).

It is the difference between making a video of darth vader dancing to gungam style and remaking a new hope and putting it on youtube.

tl;dr: fuck off ilya

>> No.2923897

>>2923888
but fanart comissions are a thing, you're just being obtuse

>> No.2923898

>>2923828
Not sure what's the worst, the guy that was autistic enough to find and do that, or the artist that was retarded enough to totally trace those parts.

>> No.2923902

>>2923368
He's pretty much the Anime style Lichstenstein.

>> No.2923903

>>2923897
Did you not read the post, or are you retarded?

>> No.2923910
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not 2D art but rwby is being caught stealing weeb models

>> No.2923911

>>2923874
>>2923897
>if a thing exists, it must be legal!
Child rape gangs are a thing, too, you fucking moron.

>> No.2923918

>>2923911
How do I join one? I like kids

>> No.2923921

>>2923415
>You only need to impress normies or autists to get their money
But I don't want money

>> No.2923924

>>2923921
Literally never going to make it.

>> No.2923925

>>2923924
Don't have to. I draw for fun.

>> No.2923928

>>2923840
Studies are stealing now?
Can you point to any case where he has tried to sell these? Claim them as original work?
Can we round up studies by any artist and say they're stealing?

>> No.2923929
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>>2923877
then why hasnt he gotten in legal trouble?

>> No.2923930

>>2923840
Whats wrong with turning a photograph into a picture. even if it is shitty.
Some of those just look like he just added a filter to it.

>> No.2923934

>>2923928
>tried to sell these?
Selling is irrelevant, what he is doing is still commercial use and he is still profiting from them.

>Claim them as original work?
Literally what was happening until he got caught, then he "apologized" and started calling them homages.

>> No.2923941

>>2923368
Because style. He has one that people like. Even other artist started copying him.

>> No.2923947

>>2923910
RWBY is filled with plagiarism. They've also stolen entire chunks of fight scenes from HxH.

>> No.2923968
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>>2923828
>>2923898
Yeah actually the guy didn't get away with it. The artist that drew (or traced) that was the author of the manga and anime adaptation "No Game No Life" and some autists found examples of him tracing/referencing other people's art, it caused a huge controversy and the anime's second season was cancelled because of that.

Tbh most of those pictures were just referenced and there are examples where he traced just the hand from a completely different picture. I have no idea how these autists found those but that's some next level vendetta.

>> No.2923973

>>2923968
A lot of nips are Kantoku fans and can recognize anything almost immediately.
Guy traced a lot of artwork from Kantoku.

>> No.2923987

>>2923947
It's not stealing, it's "homage"

>> No.2923990

>>2923929
Because he wasn't tracing, anyone with actual artist skill knows that.

Were they studies he should have cited sources too? yes.

Were they outright traces? No. It's painfully obvious when someone traces, even when they edit it.

>> No.2923995

>>2923968
Damn, I had no idea No Game No Life had been cancelled because of tracing.

Also, why'd the mangaka choose a shitty hand to trace?

>> No.2924006
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>>2923928
Here's an example.

Some may say he's still profiting off them through patreon, considering his original/plagiarism ratio.

>> No.2924014

>>2923910
The first time I saw anything RWBY related, I thought it was just a MMD animation.

>> No.2924026

>>2924014
same here, anon. same here.

>> No.2924030

>>2923987
t. Rooster Teeth

>> No.2924034

>>2924030
>Misses the sarcasm.

>> No.2924037

>>2924034
>implying i wasn't reverse baiting you

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>>2924037
FUCK.

>> No.2924044

>>2923861
He's not tracing, or atleast not doing it mindlessly. You might not like the fact that he copies but He knows his stuff either way

>> No.2924209
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is this copied?

>> No.2924215

>>2923910
Jesus lookie lookie what I found looking for that
https://youtu.be/T8Uj82yGFV0

>> No.2924220

>>2924209
I find most of his fan art is usually the ones that are traced, this one seems to be fine.

>> No.2924233

>>2923368
Maybe his parents are funding him through Patron as some tax evasion stuff? Id unno, what do people get for their money? A free drawing?

>> No.2924247

>>2924209
Must be one of his "studies."
It doesn't look impressive either way, anyone can fucking draw a portrait like that.

>> No.2924336
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2924336

>>2923368
That is ok
see Wlop,
all artists draw that shit
Ruan Gay Jia too
Fuck off shitty web, post your work

>> No.2924346

>>2924336
That must have taken you quite a while to cherry-pick. I just checked out his DA gallery and I couldn't find any of those images save for the Nier one and there he says in the description: "This is a scene in the Nier 2 trailer, really impressive so I spend some time to paint it over. "

Most of his other work looks completely different from what Kron is doing and is clearly not copied 1 by 1.

>> No.2924356
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>>2924346
you are so stupid

http://wlop.deviantart.com/gallery/40949342/PhotoCopy

Also, check artgerm
and all the hyperrealism artists draw photos 1:1 all time and they sell that shit
What is your stupid problem?
Draw your shit don't care about the others, also post your work, ilya is better than you

>> No.2924357

>>2924336
This artist is better than Kron

>> No.2924362

>>2924356
Those images are from over 4 years ago, some from as much as 7 years ago and they are all labeled as photo studies. Not exactly seeing your point here. None of his regular work that makes up 99% of his gallery looks hyperrealistic and copied 1 by 1. You sound slightly mentally challenged.

>> No.2924366

>>2924362
he sounds like your typical normie, just ignore him before we catch his stupidity

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>>2924356
What am I supposed to see when checking artgerm?

>> No.2924375
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>>2924362
Same shit, are just studies , no?
as kr0n...
So... This artist, Irakli Nadar
23k followers in artstation
copy photos 1:1
it was streaming,
nobody care about copyright
kek

>> No.2924411

>>2923903
>>2923911
you guys can chimp out all you want but reality wont bend just because you do.
people literally trace for dumb anime and comic commissions and they get away with it, it's a thing that happens and it will keep happening, illegal or not.

artistic integrity, give me a fucking break.

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>>2924375
and im sure he using this method,LUL enjoy art :DDDDDDDDDDD ebin

>> No.2924419

>>2923968
Isn't he Korean? That's probably why, Jap's fuxking hate Koreans

>> No.2924425
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2924425

>>2924418
he used a ruler, don't stupid grids
check out this girl...
Numyumy...
bait

>> No.2924450

>>2923968
There never was intended to be a second season and there's a movie coming out this summer.
>>2924419
Kamiya Yuu (Thiago Furukawa Lucas) is half jap and half brazilian

Fucking hate this guy but at least I know the facts. I'm afraid he's ruining reputation for all the other western artist who do anime art.

>> No.2924458

>>2924425
NumyYumy is an actual tracer though.

>> No.2924486

>>2924458
it's possible, as Nadar

>> No.2924497

>>2924411
What exactly is your point? Everyone knows tracers exist you fucking moron. Doesn't mean we can't say what we think about it just because it hurts your little feelings.

>> No.2924503

>>2924425
>hair drops no cast shadow
wtf I hate numyumy now

>> No.2924521

>>2924247
>anyone can fucking draw a portrait like that

>> No.2924524

>>2923968
>No Game No Life" and some autists found examples of him tracing/referencing other people's art, it caused a huge controversy and the anime's second season was cancelled because of that.
pure bait
EOP are retarded

>> No.2924545

>people losing their shit over Ilya and plagiarism again
I don't know how you autists on /ic/ still sleep when in reality copying any kind of visual or image that's not actually authentically yours is a daily thing for artists. Ilya isn't that fucking stupid to draw obviously copied shots and works from other artists without being aware there will be autists screeching about plagiarism. He knows there are fuckers out there willing to buy whatever he makes so why would he even give a shit?
Instead of crying out about him copying shit, how about you try it out and learn from that? It happens in /beg/ with photos, and it's a valid way to get better at drawing. I honestly don't understand how you guys can't see that.

>> No.2925216

I don't understand the complaints about artists drawing from photos like >>2924356

Could someone please explain how this is any different from drawing from a real life model? Not all of us have the money/locations to go see live models to draw. Not trying to bait, I'm honestly confused by this.

>> No.2925332

>>2924247

Man, some of you guys have legit hate-boners.

>> No.2926437

>>2923434
fanart

>> No.2926461

>>2926437
I feel like fanart only works if your entire body of work is fanart. If you draw fanart only 10% of the time it's fucking worthless. People will like, reblog and praise the fanart and you'll get 0 new followers.

>> No.2926474

>>2924545
people here are more content with being angry than actually trying to get better

it's just a fact of this board that not everyone is actually here to improve, some people are just here to trick themselves into thinking they're trying to improve-- their lack of noticeable improvement though is more telling than anything and just further serves to frustrate them, starting the cycle all over again

>> No.2926481

>>2924247
Do so and post results.

>> No.2927550

>>2924418
I know you're shitposting, but... Irakli does not use grid, he's just so good with hyperrealism./s

Irakli wishes he could paint like that guy you posted screenshot of.

>> No.2927579

>>2923395
They probably just make him character designer or something.

>> No.2927588

I can't draw from imagination, I can only draw from reference, mostly pictures because live models move and it annoys me. I guess /ic/ would hate me.

It would be better to take my own pictures, that way nobody would find out.

>> No.2928006

>>2927588
>It would be better to take my own pictures, that way nobody would find out.

or livestreams

>> No.2928359

>>2927588
Or you could just be honest and link to the reference. There's no shame in using other people's work as a reference so long as you credit them and use your own designs.

>> No.2928375

>>2923395
My sides

>> No.2928448
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>>2923395
"his body shakes so hard it separates into green and red"

>> No.2928536

>>2923877
It's technically trademark infringement for reproducing trademarked characters and derivative works but that's a grey area because there is literally no law protecting fan art or fan fiction and they all fall under trademark infringement. It's just that almost no one gives a damn unless someone makes alot of money from it and gets noticed.

>> No.2928538

>>2928536
So how often do doujin artists get busted?

>> No.2929650

>>2928538
Not as much as you think because the smarter ones dont get caught

>> No.2929651

>>2929650
How do they do it?

>> No.2929654

Jealousy needs no validation or explanation.

Get mad, Kronnabes.