/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2914353
I wish my brother was my rival. Unfortunately he doesn't talk to me.

Do you want to be my rival?

>>2914353
Everyone in the art world is your rival.

You are supposed to feel the need to catch up to and surpass other great artists.

If you don't feel this, then I don't know how you can get better.

>>2914353
>what is /las/
>what is work until your idols become your rivals
>what is being a better you each day
meme wisdom aside, if you need someone to push you you're not doing it right, not in the long run anyway. if you intend to pursue art seriously as a lifelong endeavor you can't expect anybody to be there for you very long.

>>2914354
I don't talk to my sister either sadly
>>2914355
:D
>>2914357
Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely driven to catch up to and surpass those I admire, it's just a little lonely when all my other friends are into other interests
>>2914359
I think most things in life are like that sadly

>>2914353
I used to have a rival or two when I was a little bit younger. However, the longer you've been in the game, the more all your art friends branch out, change, and the 'rivalry' idea isn't as appealing anymore. A rivalry becomes kind of boring when your goals, ideas, and experience are so completely different.

I would definitely try to find somebody, though. At the very least you should be part of some sort of discord art-group.

This >>2914357 is accurate. I know that when Dylan Cole would teach matte painting and saw students comparing themselves to each other, he would stop them and tell them that once they finished the class they needed to compete against him.

>>2914353
You watch too much anime

i already know i'm missing out by not having a sports anime rival

>>2914353
I'll be your rival

let me start

fuk u u little bich do u actually think ur good at art? LOL you fuking suck

>>2914357
This doesn't work because they are so far ahead. It's sort of like in a marathon, if the other runners are so far away that you can't see them you don't give a fuck, if you're running with a bro that you know and who's on an equal footing with you, you feel the need to keep up.

>>2914353
Before the advent of Facebook, back when forum culture still existed, I had a rival in the art section of a board I used to post on. Finding someone around your own skill level who's passionate about art and willing to experiment, really can push you to better yourself and inspire you to try new things.

It was funny how the psychology worked as well. He thought I was better than him, and I thought he was better than me.

>>2914633
did you guys fug?

>>2914635
He died in Stalingrad while hunting Soviet snipers. I was captured and sent to the gulags for 3 years, and only managed to escape by bribing the guards with hentai drawings.

>>2914353
nobody here has the spine to get a rival who is actually skilled.
they want someone who is worse than them so they can feel good about themselves, but good enough so that they actually can put in the effort without automatically receiving normie praise.

I swear to god if i can find someone who is around my skill level who can btfo me, and i can btfo them i'll fucking cry.

it's not fair. art rivals is they gayest thing ever that i'll never have b/c i'm above /beg/ and below 'make it'.

i've got it up to 16 hours though, i'll fucking show them who's boss.

>>2914353
If you draw cute anime girls then I'll be willing to challenge you

>>2914647
be my friend then faggot
protip: you wont

>>2914647
>they want someone who is worse than them so they can feel good about themselves
are you kidding? I'd be paranoid they'd shoot ahead of me and then being left behind in their dust. When you're complacent with your skill and they're eager to compete that might just happen.

>>2914647
>how to project onto possibly hundreds of artists on an anonymous image board: the post

>>2914353
Start going on good artists profiles and shit on their art and calling them a faggot til they hate you and consistently send in your art asking for critique.

>>2914695
in a world where you can just hit block

>rival
Really? I wish I had a creative partner.
Someone to team up and do some short projects with. Brainstorming and developing worlds, characters, short stories, improving as we go.

I sorta do have something like that already, I earn my living giving life to a project with a friend who has solid common-sense and similar taste in artistic choices. But the theme and universe of this project are his, I'm just a co-author who decided to dedicate a few years of my life to help shaping it up.

Thing is he's too self-centered to actually care about any of my potential side-projects, almost feels like unrequited love.
We used to make plans of being a super creative and awesome studio before actually teaming up, but after this project is done, I don't see him genuinely wanting to do something else not created by himself. And I won't help with a second one, I'll just move on.

The whole idea doesn't even appease me anymore, I wouldn't want his fingers in my stuff after spending MONTHS asking here and there for him to simply read a fucking 5 pages script I wrote to know what my idea was about.

No idea buddies = no stimulus to draw anything that is not work-related.
If I ever become a supervillain, I can be your rival, OP.

>>2914721
>But the theme and universe of this project are his, I'm just a co-author who decided to dedicate a few years of my life to help shaping it up.
>Thing is he's too self-centered to actually care about any of my potential side-projects, almost feels like unrequited love.
We used to make plans of being a super creative and awesome studio before actually teaming up, but after this project is done, I don't see him genuinely wanting to do something else not created by himself.
I would say sorry, but it's too late.

>tfw no harsh but loving Sensei to show me the way

>>2914745
I could be that sensei, but you're weak and would give up the first week. Probably wouldn't even turn in your homework because you would be afraid of critique.

>>2914746
N-no, I swear I can do it. I have to. For my father's sake.

>>2914747
Yeah right, if you are so willing to do it, you would have no fear in posting your work right now. If you want to improve, the current skill you have doesn't even matter. You'll be better than that.

>>2914745

>>2914748
H-hai, Sensei.

>>2914768
>posting it upside down
If you can't expect to get this right, you ain't gonna make it. It's great that you at least have the courage to post your work. That's very first step to making it. Plus your proportions are in control and you're studying. Not such hopeless bum who just talks about dreams. What do you even need help with? Also, god damn flip this thing. I don't even want to look at it until you do.

>>2914772
Sorry, Sensei.

>>2914647
"Is this guy projecting?"

"Yeah, he's definitely projecting."

"What a loser, hahaha~!"

>>2914841
Autism

>>2914494
That's bullshit and something a weakling would say.

The point of having a rival is that they're good at something you're not, and you're good at something they're not.

If your rival is better than you then he has no incentive to act as your rival.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8APtGhFys

Look at this interview, this is a good rivalry. A guy whose drawn and had fun with drawing all his life, vs a guy with immense talent but only started liking drawing after going pro. You can feel that both of them think that the other one has something that they'd want to achieve.

>>2915156

How did I know it's yet another weeb video. It's hard to relate to the Japanese when you aren't one yet you want to draw in their style yet they have the upper advantage for reasons.

>>2915159
>How did I know it's yet another weeb video
what
>It's hard to relate to the Japanese when you aren't one
what
>yet you want to draw in their style yet they have the upper advantage for reasons.
what

>>2915163
try again without being a retard

>>2914354
>Unfortunately he doesn't talk to me

This thread is garbage

Ok, it's clear. In the following week I'll get to the houses of every last one of the people ITT and murder their loved ones.

For orphans I'll throw their computers and tablets out of the window, take a bite from everything that is in a fridge and kick every chair in the flat/house. I'll also piss on the inside of the door.

You can thank me later, /ic/.

>>2914359
Every decent artist left /las/ at this point. There's no need to participate.

Yeah I definitely need an artfriend(not even a rival as mentioned above, a creative partner would be a dream.) that's better than me since I have that competitive drive. Being all alone in the art world makes it so hard to push forward/ have some motivation to keep schedules.

The three rivals of /ic/:
1. Shadman
2. Sakimichan
3. Sycra
The first must be defeated by gitting gud. The second can only be defeated by being gud and breaking down all your comfort zones. The last is only defeated by getting a decent job in the industry.

>>2916300
>The last is only defeated by getting a decent job in the industry.

kek

I wish I had friends and senpais

seeing amazing art posted here sometimes makes me super motivated though

>>2916444
Why wish? We're all here for you.

>>2916453
Yeah but it's not that most art here gets readlines and critique, I wish we had that

It seems like the only person that gets it every time they post (supposedly shitposting but also honest crit) is Firez.

Why not make great artists long since dead your rivals? Why not look to become greater than some of those artists? You don't even need to go back further than 100 years.

>>2916911
They're not "cool"

>>2916912
>Erich Sokol isn't cool
>Frank Frazetta isn't cool
>J. C. Leyendecker isn't cool
>Norman Rockwell isn't cool
>George Ludway isn't cool
>Bob Tupper isn't cool
>Harry Beckhoff isn't cool
>Ronald Searle isn't cool
>Coby Whitmore isn't cool
>LeRoy Neiman isn't cool
>Mitchell Hooks isn't cool
>Earl Oliver Hurst isn't cool
>Abel Ianiro isn't cool
>Mike Ludlow isn't cool
>Vernon Grant isn't cool
>Alberto Vivanco isn't cool
>Wood Caper isn't cool

Seriously you have an plenty of artists to choose from, some of which (in this list) are probably still alive.