/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2897787
How does one get as good as the OP?

Reposting from old thread:

Can someone help me redline the torso? I can't get the volume right.

Also want to transition to digital; I want to import my pen/pencil drawings to a digital canvas then paint over it.
Is GIMP as good as photoshop? It's free...

22 pretty shitty studies + #23 from imagination

also i just went back to using a micron because i have a bucket of them

>>2897787
Who drew OP?

>>2897904
>>2892674

>>2897901
Nice.

What do you do when you want to draw pic related pose, but with le anime style? The head is too big and the arms look fucking long if you do that.

Do you shorten the neck? The head? Just don't draw it? Am I a nigger?

>>2898035
I AM A NIGGER WHY DID THE FUCKING PIC DIDN'T UPLOAD I AM MAD FUCK.

>>2898035
looks like someone forgot the pic

>>2897787

>>2897814
go get krita and download david revoy brushes

>>2898035
just enlarge the head to make it animu. if you want animu with realistic proportions you gotta improve your stylization first otherwise you'll just end up copying the ref

>>2898035
with anime you have to understand emotion comes first and consistency comes second

if you want a emotion *awww so cute* you draw proportions closer to babies proportions, like shorter arms relatively to the head. If you want the opposite, to make a character imposing, you draw the head smaller relatively to the rest of the body

depending on what you want to push, you draw the point of reference smaller or bigger, when a point of reference is the things we, as humans, are easier to pick up in a subconscious level, such as humans, heads, hands, eyes etc

>>2898041
>>2898044

Hmm, it makes sense to not be really strict with proportions then. The problem is I like the female body, but find most faces/head disgusting. Incorporating just one aspect of stylization into a fully normal body would probably look like a nightmare.

Guess the answer is, as always, le draw and test it out someday u will learn XDDD how I hate art end my misery.

>>2898053
>The problem is I like the female body, but find most faces/head disgusting.
I agree. Grab a copy of candydoll models or japanese young gravure models but don't get caught tracing them for drawings or don't let the FBI park that party v& if your country has shitty laws for legal child models. You can ref them on google images and not download them if you're scared.

Anime proportion is closer to doll/mannequin proportions (almost impossible bodies IRL or AAA models)

making very good and dynamic poses and clothes is hard

>>2898053
>Incorporating just one aspect of stylization into a fully normal body would probably look like a nightmare.

But that's literally what 99% of anime looks like. Unlike western stylization, most anime doesn't stylize the human body much at all, it idealizes it. Unless of course your definition of anime is chibi or gravity defying hentai balloon tits.

Just focus on clean outlines of the anatomy and leave out most muscle detail inside the silhouette and you're good.

>>2898114
keep grinding nigga

>>2898122
>tfw there are different ideas of idealistic
Blew my mind just now.

security implicator

Scifi is the best.
(Except for barbarian)

>>2898137
Awwww yiss it's bagboss

>>2898137
>he's back

I think I'm about done

>>2898036

>>2898260
Needs a chin, besides the Chin Chong already there.

>>2898323
/ic/: where every redline comes with giant knockers

>>2898038
It's like she got pucci-fied

>>2889445
I know this is 6 days old but the redlining on the left panel is wrong (the cathedral's perspective is correct). The abacuses (pic related) are rotated around the Y axis, so their lines converge towards different points on the horizon. Just mildly triggered.

fell off the bandwagon
first pose was too boring also i drew the knee on backwards (thank you to the anon who pointed that out in the previous thread)
redrew the far right version earlier today but now she doesn't feel like she's 'sitting' on the pillar correctly so i guess i'm going to do some more construction work

>>2897787
46'30

>>2898434
>redline

page 4 of a comic i was working on

>>2898038
Nightmares are made of this.

>>2898643
>inb4 le "thank you that's my goal fufufufufu"

>>2898634
Head is too big for that angle on the top panel. Shoulders too, I'd say.

>be me
>draw lolis gettin fuckt
>/ic/ says get lots of refs and LIFE study
b-but that's i-illegal, anon!

>>2898477
Wanted to point that out when I saw the redline v. but thanks for clearing it up

>>2898655
is there a loomis guide for lolis? Looked into loomis few years ago but didn't find any ref for loli proportions

>>2898653
this. I suggest you draw a triangle as the vanishing point is exactly at the eye level of viewer below (on first panel unless she's leaning frward like micheal jackson)

>>2898655
How hard is it to study from anime and manga?

>>2898655
>not moving to a country where your passion is legal
ngmi

>>2898650
did you draw that??

I'm trying to develop a simple style that would be useful when doing porn commissions.

Any tips?

>>2898757
You move definitely don't render like a porn artist.

>>2898757
It's like you're not even looking at the reference image

>>2898767
Could you be more specific? Do you think that I would benefit from emulating someone (for example Shadman, since he is successful and have simple style)?

>>2898773
Yeah, I find it really difficult to capture likeness of a model without simply copying it (like I did on this study). If you have any tips about fixing that, then I'll gladly listen.

>>2898817
Well you're resorting back to symbol drawing when you are trying to stylize. Instead look at the forms and see how you can change their proportions or emphasize/downplay parts.

>>2898834
>stop symbol drawing
>see how you can change their proportions or emphasize/downplay parts.
I don't understand: what you're describing sounds to me like a caricature made in a realistic style (on the left) rather than a stylized picture (on the right).

Could you give me some examples of art that's stylized but doesn't use symbol drawing?
Sticky doesn't explain this topic very well.

>>2898891
I mean, isn't symbol drawing necessary to develop a simplistic style?

>>2898891
>Could you give me some examples of art that's stylized but doesn't use symbol drawing?
Look up the artists that do character design for Disney films or other animation studios. They may draw an eye as just a few lines but there is a lot of knowledge behind those lines and it will be different depending on the character or the angle it is viewed at. Looking at comics might help too. I like Moebius a lot for very simple faces.

>>2898899
I'll check them out, thanks!

Progress from >>2893263

>>2893346
She looks nice, maybe it's a bit late but try to make her nose less wider, she will look cuter

>>2898928
How do you render the hair? It looks so nicely done, and I've been having trouble with it lately moving from a sketch phase to the rendering phase.

>>2897787
hi there

here's an update on the comic i'm working on, i'm wrapping it up soon because i need to turn it in on friday

>>2898891
not the anon but to me style must always be consistent. If you have different styles they must each be consistent on itself. Consistency is practiced by drawing same stuff every time. What is it that you draw all the time? is it boobies/flat women or muscular men?

symbol drawing or simplified styles are preferred in the industry because you don't traverse the uncanny valley with simple lines. Semi-realistic styles like datura, redjuice, or illya are heavily stylized and perfected to avoid the valley.

If you can't notice the unfriendliness of the one on the right (of >>2898817 ) then you're not ready to draw semi-realistic styles or the uncanny valley welcomes you hand in hand.

>>2898960
I think I saw your stuff before and you make the torso so strange looking.

>>2898976
yeah i need to polish up on my anathomy, but right now i need to get this done for school application

>>2898756
Check the file name, just another handy anime reaction picture to make a point about setting better goals than "spoopy".

>>2898928
I'd say the mouth is too narrow on the right girl's head, compared to the lewd girl's mouth, and that the top feet have toes that are too big. Unless they are men's.

>>2898260
pretty

>>2898260
nice
her right eye looks a bit weird to me

Trying to get better in line art because I suck hairy balls at it, any help will be really appreciated.

>>2898757
>>2898817

Try capturing her likeness first by copying and and looking for what makes her 'her'. Try copying, THEN stylizing. What I notice in your drawing is: Hair looks flat because of little contrast, she looks at a different direction, nose points forward instead of slightly up, colours are more saturated.

In my first draft, I explored the shape of her eyes (wings and bags), face (kinda tilted), nose and mouth (relatively broad, possibly because of tilt). It's horrible. But hey, it did its job.

In my second drawing I tried full on weeb fake 'anime' stylization. Completely failed. Eyes too big, shape of her face was wrong, went full voldemort and she wasn't showing off her chin like in the reference.

In the third drawing, I took a step back and went a bit closer to the ref. Problem was that the face tilt was lacking (shape was wrong too) and her confident expression was gone.

The fourth was my final draft. Focused on eyeshape, eyebags, slight tilt (nose and chin),expression and simplifying. Could go further than that, but I'm tired.

Does this help you out?

Disclaimer: I am merely a beginner who has no clue how it's actually done, throwing in his 2 cents. Just compare your grayscale study to my first drawing. I don't even know how you managed to do that. It looks cool.

>>2899029
find the stabilizer tool of your photoshits*
you can even use mouse for line if set properly

>>2899039
That's sounds so cheap to do, I want something more freely and fluid.

hi

sketch doodle thingy

sry resize

>>2899033
fuck, she's hot

>>2899067
are you this anon >>2883216 ?
have you considered drawing lain and why you haven't finished it yet?

>>2899067
Y-you actually drew a nearly full figure!

>>2899050
pls hav my zika babies XD

Drawing some backgrounds, here are the thumbs.

>>2899235
And here are the finished layouts.

>>2899238
And I also did a dumb comic

>>2899241
>tfw thought this was going to be deep and meaningful
>ends with a joke
At least I laughed.
Although that first strip really got me thinking. I could contact any artist I wanted, I just don't know what to talk about.

>>2898937
Thanks. Maybe you already have heard this but hair is basically ribbons, always think about it as several ribbon groups/masses, paint some strands just to reinforce the form of the hair, lock its layer and throw some and use a soft brush in multiply mode to throw the shadows and make it curve much more, use a color dodge layer for the highlights.

>>2899004
Thank you!

>>2899245
Exactly. I think it'd be nice to talk to Firez, giant loli anon, and wide eyes anon. On that subject:
>>2898928
Thanks, I'll work on it. I was thinking it looked more like a flip that way, but aesthetics matter more. I agree with what another anon said, also, some of the feet look male from their size. It looks fantastic, though!

It's a sketch. So is it gud?

>>2899297
Breddy gud.

>>2899300
Your line work looks atrocious from furious etching of the lewd bits. And, wrists and hands show no construction. They're scribbled, and tiny.

>>2899297
Beyond that, the figure is okay, and the face is good.

>>2899274
>talking to Firez, giant loli anon, and wide eyes anon
That sounds so embarrassing, they're all so good. What if I say the wrong thing to them? It's so scary to think about.

>>2899313
Well, I wouldn't include wide eyes just yet, since I'm about to try helping him by critiquing the body he's made. His style is remarkable, which makes him noteworthy, but he needs some more work.

Anyway, that group may seem imposing, but they are still artists on 4chan. They're further along, but that's just what you can aim for.

>>2899067
Alright, firstly, you need guidelines to begin, as the hips are off-center from the rest of the body. If I look at this as an upright girl simply folding her arms, the hips are the main problem. If she's thrusting her hip, then it's not turning at an angle, there's too much going on in the pose, and the socks imply the legs are static.

There are no folds in the skirt, which is okay for the first few tries, but needs to develop into a 3D shape eventually. Her neck appears a touch too long, but the shoulders are forgivable. Use more confident strokes in the sleeves, and the face is lovely, as usual.

However, sketch out guidelines there too, as one eye looks smaller and lower. Cheer up, you can make it. Practice converting references to your brand if you need quick practice, and good luck!

>> 2899029
I got bored of trying to do all the details of this character and just transformed her into other thing.
But I'm already trying to make it again, post when finish.

>>2899360
Oops.

>>2899361
Really great! The first one reminded me of Knuckles le hegdehod, but this version is a lot easier to take seriously. I only see that you need to set some cleaner lines on the hand gripping the staff, to show individual fingers, but I suspect the hand is webbed, so maybe not. Try checking the alignment of the mouth on the face, too. Great work! I hope to see you again.

>>2899361
Cute stuff every single time with ya.

>>2898655
Looks a lot with a scene i´m making.
Anyway, most of the time you´ll be creating poses without any reference, so use a light pencil and erase a lot until the raft of the sketch is more or less acceptable.
PCs and internet today allows you to easily find poses and pics to make collages to trace ontop, and you could also use a poser 3D software to create a reference if you´re having trouble with a specific scene.

Alright, I feel like it went down in quality from the sketch I had. Thoughts on work in progress? I'm considering giving up on this to make Megumeme.

>>2899428
I like it, saved.

>>2899430
Thanks! So you don't see anything glaringly wrong? I thought I saw something after posting, but I am tired.

>>2897787
oohhhh my pic got chosen yoooooo

>>2897802
don't make me blush

>>2899440
Not that I'm aware of.

>>2899442
>>2899443
Glad to hear it.

>>2899442
>don't make me blush

Stop being a fag and spit it out.

>>2899451
traps are ok sometimes and i like cagliostro

>>2899458
but seriously i just looked at artists i liked, tried to analyze their approach, figure out what worked and why then try to transfer that train of thought to other pieces

i still have a ways to go because my drawing skills are particularly poor and it shows-- pushing paint around can only take you so far when you're not sure of the underlying form so it's definitely something i'd like to keep improving upon

>>2899462
i guess it boils down to not just "doing stuff" but making sure you're taking something away from the stuff you're "doing" and actively applying your newfound knowledge-- like if you tried to emulate a certain person's style of rendering, try to think about what worked about how you approached it and what didn't. Maybe next time you can adjust your approach to get closer to your goal. It's important to analyze what you need to do and have a directed approach to solving the problem, otherwise you're just kinda taking a shot in the dark.

Apart from people not taking an analytical enough approach to their art and other people's art I think the other common problem people run into is becoming discouraged easily? I's embarrassing to look at now but this was about 2 years ago when i first started trying to paint so i mean, just don't be discouraged when your pieces don't turn out the way you expected-- as long as you learned *something* it wasn't a waste of time.

>>2899470
>mfw I don't know if I learned something or not 95% of the time.

>>2899470
Thanks. I've been doing that lately actually. Trying to emulate a person's style of rendering, it's so difficult. It's not even close, but I'll keep trying because I know that I didn't right this one time, however maybe the next time it'll be better.

Yeah, discouragement is hard to get through. It's like you spend hours and hours on something and it just doesn't come out right no matter what. Absolutely destroys me for a week at a time. You're right though, it wasn't a waste of time. It just sometimes feels like you might not ever get it correct. I guess it's a little easy to give up, three, four, five times. That's it and then give up. To continue on to ten, twenty, fifty, a hundred times. Maybe it's possible at that point. If I keep thinking it's not a waste of time, perhaps I'll find out. Trusting your own gut is difficult.

>>2899478
Right. It's discouraging but because it's discouraging that means there's hope for you. That means you fundamentally understand what makes what you made different from what you tried to emulate. Now you have to look at why it turned out this way. Was my initial sketch not precise enough so when I went to render I ended up guessing too much? Maybe I should spend a bit more time getting that right next time. Was my pose too stiff for the composition? Next time I should try being more loose and dynamic with my initial sketch. Does the piece lack volume in it's components? Next time I should simplify the forms more in the initial rendering stage to more easily grasp the form. Are the colors all fucked up and disharmonious? Maybe I should color pick another artist's work with a similar feeling I was going for and compare their color choices to mine to see where I went wrong.

Basically, if you're not fucking up you won't know where you need to improve and be able to take the steps to rectify those problems. The above examples I listed above are actually my own thoughts with regards to my own recent work, so I would also encourage you to look at your own works critically to help direct your studies.

i feel like its coming along. not as animated or as well done as in my head as i was hoping but oh well

What can I improve on design wise? Any recommendations?

>>2899541
Her right leg is missing a sock and if you look closely her gloves/whateverthefuck are slightly different colors.

>>2899596

Hello friends! Rate my artwork!

>>2899610
sorry

>>2899541
The tail is a bit of a weird tangent right now, maybe push it to be more 3D, like wrapping around to the front of her body. Other than that, hands and neck area could use some work.

>>2899613
what is this nonsense

>>2896183
>>2898278
i'll join you tomorrow

>>2898036
I'm having a similar issue with a similar pose, don't know it letting her hair obscure the arm is any good and am considering dropping the pose altogether because I just can't make it work.

dear /ic/ I need help with colours

>>2897787
wip

>>2898899
>Look up the artists that do character design for Disney
nice me.me

>>2899975
that awkward concept sketch is far better than anything on this entire board (no offense)

>>2900009

>>2899541
Good job on the rendering.
Design wise, nothing in particular draws my eye. What I mean is, the silhouette is very weak and does little to tell me what she does as a character. Cosplay waitress? Idk
It might help if you exaggerated certain shapes to break up the silhouette.

>>2899050
I like it, but what is she supposed to be doing? That pose just confuses me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rYZLkW8Z78

>>2899136
subtle...
But I see what you mean.
>>2900052
honestly i don't really know. I was thinking it's some kind of fighting stance but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>2898960
here's an update - mostly cleaned up, moving on to coloring the rest

>>2899050
I like how it looks.

Next time I'll color my linework a bit and make sure that light and shadow arena have different hues, just like in your picture.

does anybody know of a good tutorial on how to draw hair? I'm kinda new to painting so, and im having kind of a hard time with the hair.
also idk if i should keep the sword or not.

>>2900295
Thanks anon
but I'm sure there are better artists to reference?

>>2900295
>>>/beg/

>>2900356
The problem with /beg/ is that only beginners visit that thread - it's hard to get high quality comments there.

>>2900009
(you)

dun

>>2899975
That doesn't look like any artist at the Disney animation studios I have ever heard of. Care to post the source? Because something tells me you are a dishonest little faggot who just posted some sketch artist who does drawings for tourists at Disney World.

>>2900426
That was 3rd link after googling that hideous Snow White: http://berry-melon.blogspot.com/2016/09/disneys-snow-white-original-concept.html

>tl;dr
It's legit.

>>2900417
blog?

>>2900417
her back is fucking broken L ol

yeah, another bust

>>2900640
Whoa, really like that eye effect. It looks like a glow somehow. Is it the gradient effect I wonder.

>>2900641
Not him but clipping mask+soft brush m8

>>2900640
why is there diarrhea on her face?

quick sketches, brainstorming ideas

>>2899541
The vibrant colors doesn't fit too much with her facial expression/structure, unless you aim for realism. The left hand carpal/thumb metacarpal looks really sharp, so adjust it to look a bit more deflated. Some fine tuning on the inner side of the right leg with a deeper bow under the kneecap.
Thicc?

>>2900214
The asshole crit from previous thread.
I mentioned before you started posting here that the bag on the first panel shifts from right shoulder to left in the 3rd, then back to right on the 4th.

>>2900214
>>2900759
Actually, it does this consistenly.
Right on 1st and 3rd, but left on the rest.
Also, there's no handle on the MC as he's layong on the ground on 6th panel, nor hair on the 5th.

Just pointing this out, but do whats most important 'til the deadline on friday.

>>2900765
Thanks for pointing these out, hopefully i'll have time tomorrow to go back and fix these

Playing around with different styles that I don't use very often.

>>2900477
http://ahtto.tumblr.com/
>>2900568
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Tried to redo the image with the crit list in mind, but I think I would make more progress if I just grinded the traditional way for a while.

Also, if I could drink semen to get gud I would drink all the semen I could. I would drink cum from hobos and pervs all day. I would get into business school and invest the little shit I have into the stock market until I get fucking rich. With all that money I would buy cum slaves and harvest them all day, drinking and choking on cum until I die.

I would form a new KGB to harvest all the cum, you would all be dry by now. Not a single drop remaining. Thank god every day your cum won't make me good at drawing.

>>2900996
Cute! Got a social media outlet?

>>2900996
>Also, if I could drink semen to get gud I would drink all the semen I could
you should join the freemasons or discordians then sign up for mentorship with the expense of you being their cumdump. it's the rich man super sekrit club and the only way to get close to the elites is to get close to their crotch.

>>2900996
Cute, but your anatomy seems to be lacking.

>>2900997

All this fucking garbage, holy shit this thread should be called /alt;beg/

Shitty boring poses, portraits, garbage proportions, nigger lips, this is like Deviant art but if DA was aggressively vomiting its garbage all over me.

/ngmi/ or not going to make it general

>>2901066
Post your work

>>2900795
You should be playing around with the delete button.

>>2900640
Wow a portrait, way to brave new grounds.

>>2900417
That body is fucking garbage, the whole thing is broken. I want to vomit looking at it.

>>2900309
You have to know how to draw before you move into painting retard.

>>2900295
Perfect.

>>2899384
Why are perverts always such hacks?

>>2899878
work it into the recycle bin

>>2899758
you need more help than can be given here

>>2899620
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>>2901013
What the fuck is a discordian?

going to fucking bed.

>>2901075
frak.. I should have flipped it. rip

>>2901075
I like how you draw, do you have a blog or something?

>>2901075
Take it with you when you leave then.

dragon princess

>>2901071
You are what the chinese kids call Tsundere?

>>2899620
le laligator

Sup?

>>2901491
The values on the girl kind of bother me, I'll probably try to incorporate more blues/cyans into her as I render this WIP

The values on the girl feel a bit off, I'll try to give her more blues/cyans as I render this WIP

>>2901498
You might be right there, but I have to congratulate you on the anatomy here. The face looks superb, without that more squashed look your work sometimes has, and the rendering is fantastic. Maybe check the construction of her right leg, as it looks a bit too cylindrical, but overall, the background gives the perfect sense of size, panic, and urban atmosphere. Before, there were really only wrecked buildings, so I like the addition of the active and crowded cars. Really good, in my opinion.

>>2901459
>namefagging
>trying to be le casual with le sup
>edgy bug-eyed man cant really compalin isnt stylized but stil
o i am laffin U REALY IS LE FUCKO LELELELEL
ids ur first time huh
DONT WORRT most cloudnt tell XDDDD
pic rlated is my waifu pls r8

>>2901498
How the fuck did she cut a building in half? It would collapse instantly like my fucking erection when I see someone older than 14.

>>2901526
Good question, actually. Taste, too, of course.

>>2901526
Because it's cardboard and not concrete, faggot.

>>2901526
shirai kuroko chan can teleport

>>2898634
don't you dare use that font, and I hope that this is a cropping of the original or you better move the font on the right in the top panel more to the left or I'll fucking kill you.

>>2898634
For "Generic Manga Font" use Wild Words or Anime Ace.

Trying to practice my lineart, which is the bane of my fucking existence

Aside from the lines, does anything stand out as outright bad?

>>2901579
It's obviously meant to guide your eyes to her thighs anon

which one should i draw?

>>2901613
Demon girl on the bench with the excited lewd face, watching the gymnastics. No high heels.

>>2901613
All of them.

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Cover for a mangoo.

concept art sketch, are her feet too meaty? She's supposed to be tall and lanky, typical model sketches.

>>2901699
Uhh, not much of a modeling guy myself but from what I've seen yeah, the legs are way too thick.

>>2897901
I'm loving this, dude.
Not a fan of the style per say, but the draws overall are very pleasent to the eye

>>2901498
She's missing a whole hip. It's apparent when you look from the viewer's right; it goes from ribcage to a sliver of her sides right to the leg muscle. If you did indeed draw the hip, it's extremely poorly portrayed because it merges with the right leg with the shadow cast on her. As a direct result of poor shading on the hip (you used bad tangents), her torso looks comically stout.

Her neck is too short.

Your choice of colors for shading makes her skin very muddy. Try studying skintones in various sources of strong light (although the figure merging into the background with a slight blue hue may be more atmospheric in this particular case); perhaps not even from reality, but artists you respect.

Lay off on the black outline on the collerbone.

I'd be glad to critique again on your revision/ next work if you'd like, anon.

>>2901618
wip
>captcha is free minute
:)

>>2901699
more ladies with too wide legs.

>>2901754
Neck is bending in a Lovecraftian way, my man. Keep up the work!

>>2901758
omgosh BIGGEST PUIBC MOUND EVER XDDDD
i want le buff forearms to

>>2901754
I sure love unwarranted redraws!

>>2901791
could probably raise her left shoulder even more.

>>2901802
I was working with the original angle of the head, tough to make it look correct without me redrawing the whole area.

>>2901758
does this look right to you? (the red is where her upper arm is if she was transparent)

>>2901524
neck yourself faggot

>>2901699
What are her shoes made of? They look like plastic bags, to be honest.

I feel like every time I try to do an interesting pose, it always falls flat.

CC welcome.

>>2900214
so uhm.. this is the finished version for now

>>2901899
On the third panel (with foot) it looks like foot there's no shadow and it looks like it's directly above that root (rather than moved forward a bit).

On the panel with view on the factory boxes have different sizes, and you failed at drawing boxes on a slope (at least it looks more like a slope than a turn).

But I'm just nitpicking; you did a good job.

>>2901902
Shit, I shouldn't be posting when I'm so tired. I hope that you get what I was trying to say.

>>2901902
hmm yeah that that shadow on the root is an easy fix, i'll go back and draw that in
regarding that panel with the factory, yeah, the right side of that one is a complete disaster

>>2901906
sure mate, thanks for the feedback!

>>2901519
>>2901746
Thank you guys so much for these, critique is this is exactly why I still visit this place. I'll try to make her right hips and legs more separated and apparent so it won't betray the size of the torso too. I'll also extend the neck upwards a bit. Regarding the skin tones, I'll probably need to look for reference, but you're right on the figure merging into the background; do you have any good references for these?
I'll post again when I revise these things, and again, thank you for these.

>>2901526
She's really strong, anon

>>2901899
The bag keeps hopping shoulders

Work in progress, I'd like feedback on the pose and the eventual panties.

>>2901974
You work so fast, so many cute girls in such a short amount of time. I'm joyful.

Her pose makes it look like, she's really stiff and can't stretch before her left leg is fully extended. Although, what's her left arm doing?

>>2901979
Haha, I'm happy to hear such praise. Anyway, it's supposed to be her gripping an injured foot, while raging. Her other, undrawn arm is going to be resting on some dumbbells.

>>2901982
I see what you mean now. I guess it's hard to tell without context. I wonder if you've recently jammed your toe into a dumbbell.

>>2901986
Hold on, let me see if a full picture gives more context. And no, I was mildly drawing something from a song. Do the panties look proper for spread legs?

Full picture, thought matching tops would be cute. Text says: "It was an accident! just liek u XDDD".

hands are bit tired. later
>>2901754

>>2901633
sure

>>2901761
saw it coming but thanks

>>2901791
that looked like kungfu stance but i like redraws.

>>2901897
my fallback is abandoning the wip and moving on to something even more inspiring/interesting and on few occasions try to redraw old wips.

a page from today's sketching
the bottom color bit was going to be a pose study but ended up being more like a hair study

>>2902005
How do you draw hair so well?

>>2902004
I have the same method, but when I hit roadblocks with backgrounds. Cool.

>>2902005
I agree, that's quite good hair. It fits with your style of linework. Maybe simplify the hands on the left sketch?

>>2901868

>>2902027

>>2902012
>>2902018
this is actually my first time experimenting with doing the color like this, so thank you, this makes me excited to continue.
i've basically just been trying to think of each hank of hair as a satin ribbon, and highlight or shade accordingly. then i go back in and add strands on top to keep things from getting too uniform.

>>2902002
Are you telling me no one has a frame of reference for a loli with spread legs?
>>2902035
No problem. Are the bags under the lady's eyes necessary, if you don't mind me asking?

>>2902039
probably not, i was just trying to give her face more character.
the lineart was pretty different, actually.

>>2902045
Wow, looks really different there. I prefer this one, honestly, but the hair was good work too.

>>2901990
>>2902002
Oh yeah, looks good. Just sneaky enough.

>>2902045
>>2902039
you can probably just use an adult reference and change the proportions by projecting
you sick evil bastards

>>2902129
ids a irony
U PROABLY dont even get LE METALPHORS XDDDDDDDDDDD

>>2902045
Oh my anon, nothings wrong with your painting but I do prefer the sketch more. Its really lovely and delicate.
This is actually a reoccuring problem that I have, I like my sketches much better than my finished pieces. This isn't the best example but one of them.
Do you have a tumblr/da?

>>2902163
forgot to upload an example

>>2901526
this should be a new banner

>>2902002
want all loli

>>2902129
that's not how the industry works.

>>2899238
i like your backgrounds a bit better than your scripting, but i really, really like those backgrounds. gorgeous lines

>>2902002
looks pretty nice, good job anon

>>2901524
Hey, is everything ok? You seem to be stressed.
>>2901648
If you dont mess up the font, that will be a dope cover
>>2901868
Its really cool but her clothes stick out. You managed to give the head ABD hair a good depth but her shirt looks a bit flat

>>2902002
May I ask what do you use to color and where did you learn how to color? I kinda want to try coloring on paper before going digital

>>2902272
Found a good camera for you. There's a brown color pencil missing. As for coloring, I always kind of scratched out hair like that, but started using arbitrary colors like that red to add a better sense of strands. Skin gets reddish pink when darker, but I add some regular pencil shading there for darker areas.

>>2902332
I never knew color pencils can do something like that! Thank you. Any brands you can recommend?

Can I get a motherfuckin uhhhhhhhhh

>>2902347
I use Crayola because I have no money and they're nice and hard. I have a few Prismacolor pencils, but they smear so easily, I don't use them for anything.

Now, I'm going to make the shadow of her spread leg a bit darker, but do you think the panties look proper? I've no color in mind yet.

>>2902359
i get it.

>>2902371
Thanks for info, gonna study how to make colors look like that with color pencils. As for panties white is cute enough.

>>2902378
Alright then, thanks! See you around, I have some research ahead of me.

>>2902431
Cute! The outfit on the left is wonderful! The rendering of the skin on the top right is gorgeous! The expression is spectacular! The color scheme on the bottom right is fantastic!

>>2902453
I'm liking the dynamism exhibited in your work!

>>2902268
Funny thing I already fucked the font up, my graphic design skills are pretty nonexistant so I've been lurking /gd/ for a while trying to get some placement and font ideas.

>>2902268
Funny thing I already fucked the font up, my graphic design skills are pretty nonexistant so I've been lurking /gd/ for a while trying to get some placement and font inspiration. Think I'll settle with this general idea but try to make the font less bold, maybe draw it by hand all fancy.
>>2902431
I dig it anon.

Hello i'm the dude who is trying to be le casual with le 'sup

>>2902268
Thanks for pointing out that clothes stick out!
But what did you mean by "ABD hair"? Sorry, I'm not a native speaker :^/

>>2902555
Those hands look really bad.

>>2902637
Thanks for pointing that out, I will try to fix it.

>>2902555
Please fix the bow the proportions are wrong. She's not holding the middle of the string either.

>>2902635
I meant to say "and" but apperantly autocorrect changed it

>>2901648
cool af

>>2902431
hey what kind of brush u used? if standart le me see setup ples bro

wip

What do you guys think?

>>2902359
This is cool, what medium

>>2903071
Decided to make some quick changes from looking at the thumbnail.

>>2903083
>231x448
What is this? A picture for ants?!

I like how it looks. When you'll add background you could blur a bit edges of the ears to add a more depth.

But why are you in alternative stylization thread? It looks like a fairly realistic rendering to me.

I can draw okayish when its just a sketch, but I sperg and always fail at proper lineart and rendering.

Any tips?

>>2903108
It's just 50% of the canvas. I just felt like 100% was too much "in-your-face" when you hover over it.

I didn't really intend for it to be realistic. I just applied some shading/color practice to a sketch and this is how I would shade/render comic style at this point... Well, I figured it was alternative in that way anyway.

>>2903108
>>2903117 here. Oh and thx for the depth tip. I think the hair parts should naturally be blurred a bit. But naturally that would be otherwise be done by desaturation I guess.

>>2903109
How are you so good? Blog?

>>2903127
T-thanks. I don't really upload things there at any reasonable rate, most of my work is commissioned or stuff like that.

http://dalf.tumblr.com

But now I'm thinking of at least uploading doodles every day...

>>2903141
This image would be 200x better if waluigi was in it.

>>2902431
Blog?

>>2903149
Why?

>>2903141
I really like this soft rendering. How did you achieve it?

>>2903194
Because fucking waluigi, that's why.

>>2899541
There's 1 problem with this drawing:

You posted it in a critique thread.

It's a finished illustration. A wonderful work. You should be focusing on characters and concepts, not drawing ability.

Every single comment about this drawing is full of utter horseshit. There is no goddamn problem with the hands, neck or "silhouette" (only an art teacher would say that).

You're ready to work on story and character design. Sharpen that.

>>2903218
T-thanks Bob Ross.

>>2903198
Thank you. But what exactly do you mean by soft rendering? I don't use any spesial technique.
>>2903201
Sorry, there were no Waluigi in my childhood.

>>2903220
Your colors give a really soft kind of touch that feels pleasing to the eyes. I don't really know how to explain it, which is why I ask.

>>2903219

>>2903218
>>work on story and character design

>>2903231
>bunny
it was a goddamn squirrel friend
his name was fucking peapod.

sup I barely draw anymore and it shows

>>2903231
Way too elongated, the stomach area is the main problem.

>>2903329
Are you drawing on 2dpi?

>>2903329
that looks neat. blog?

>>2903075
thanks I used acrylic, went over with water soluble oil pastel and then washed it off

>>2902903
Minyum's 3rd brush from his set for line sketch.

>>2901899
Finally I get the panel introducing the conveyer belt with the colors in place.

This is my proudest piece, but I feel like I can improve a lot more. I'm pretty blinded by my own confidence with this piece. So some feedback would be great. :')

I've cropped the original btw. I thought the background was a mess.

>>2903985
I love it, anon. Saving it for future reference and to admire.

How long have you been drawing? It's nice to see people along the way that aren't too low or too high of a level.

Also, how did you come up with such a cute yet gorgeous concept? The legs especially are so well done. The colors all around are really nice to look at.

>>2903985
Right leg looks kinda broken, her abdomen is weird as fuck and her face too (probably because of the different eyes). All I can think of here. Maybe the neck is too long too?

Really liked the wings, man.

>>2903989
Uh thanks ^^; I've been drawing since I can remember, but I've only been drawing anime since I was 13-14?

And it was a request I got so not really my idea. ^^;

>>2903993
Holy shit I'm just seeing all these things D: oh god the horror.

>>2903985
She seems to be lacking a jaw. Her chin is kinda just going straight up to her ear.

>>2903997
I've made these changes. Thoughts?

Alright, I finally finished the figures. Thoughts on a background, for the next thread?

>>2904004
Good job on fixing the anatomy, but the face is too narrow, I feel. Compare it to the shoulders for visual aid.

>>2904012
Better? D:

>>2904004
>>2904019
Her arms are too short compared to her forearms

>>2904019
The top of the head is what seems to be sticking out, but you fixed the rest of it!

>>2904020
I changed arm positions to be less awkward and more fluid.
>trying D:

>>2904021
Like this?

>>2904027
The lower body just keeps getting better and better, but come on! Let me do a shitty fix in Paint.

>>2904030
Another fix?? D: Thank you so much btw. This is helping me so much!

>>2904041
Gorgeous, a little more off the top.

>>2904046
:3?

>>2904047
Liiittle more. Isn't it a bit late to be cuteposting?

>>2904049
It's never too late to be cute posting! >:3

>>2904050
Well, at least the thread ended in an interesting way. And good job, that's it! Round it a little more, though. For the love of my signal, however, could you just crop the head?

>>2904051
Thanks a bunch for the help D: Now I won't be as embarrassed to post my art. ^^;

>>2904054
Mind critiquing >>2904009? The medium is different, though.

>>2904055
Overall, you're really freaking good. I think there are a few things you can work on, but other than that it seems great to me. :D

>>2904059
>makes sadism and rage into happy peaceful scene
My sides are gone, saved. I can't really fix large color pencil marks, though, and I like my faces. I'll round out some things, though, I've heard that one before.

>>2904065
>angry children scare me
To each their own. I personally find the faces confusing on a realistic child's body lol.

But dude you're like 10/10 keep up the great work. :D

Niggers, what makes a good face? I know there are quite a billion ways to stylize them, but 90% of you here are weebs and kinda gravitate to what I like.

So, I can't quite understand what is making this woman's face a nice face. Maybe the thin nose and slightly bigger eyes, but that's not all.

I've seen plenty of stylized eyes and bigger is not better automatically, what do you do there? Make the iris larger? The eyelashes? The form? Just the bottom part? Just the upper part? I want science.

You guys have 15 minutes to answer it. Starting now.

>>2904070
Not gonna make it.

>>2904070
Doll like eyes with soft features are nice, but it's symmetry. The brain automatically finds symmetry really attractive, and that's why you like it so much.

>>2904068
Thanks for the compliment and the realistic bit. I'll try for a less stylized face next time, though. If you don't mind me asking, are you new here?

>>2904076
Fuck, is that why some awfully done shit sometimes looks nice? Holy fuck.

>>2904070
Trying to figure that out myself, my man. Look up some golden ratio stuff if you want the "why", though.

>>2904078
If it wasn't obvious by my faces (:D, :3) Yes and not. I've used 4chan for a few years, but I never started posting till this year.

>>2904080
Yes.

>>2904084
I wasn't sure how ironic you were being.
>>2904070
Small, upturned noses are always cute.

>>2904088
I'm lost :)

>>2901440
Wat?
>>2899620
Anyway I dropped the early 00's comic style face for a more pinup-y one because I felt it fits the body stylization better, but I'm still not convinced by the raised arm.
Opinions pls?

>>2904186
Captcha ate my pic.

>>2904070
What I have noticed is that bigger eyelashes seem to make a great difference. Though I am probably referring to something more like pic related. Its not about the eyelashes but about the make up.

>>2904070
>>2904197
Stylized in anime it looks like this. It's kind of like the make up that one would label as Egyptian. Cleopatra is a good example actually.
In anime for example this make up look though is created by their eyelashes and not really make up, although it looks like it.

what do I need to improve

>>2904210
>furryshit
Rarely forgivable, but points for entering a new realm with alpaca girls.
>graphing fucking paper
Heh. You're doing great so far, kiddo. Blog?
>tiny torso plus le thicc as torso legs
Anatomy sucks, needs work beyond entry-level "girls have breasts and four limbs".
>linework gets more intricate and thinner as you look upwards
>but the fucking feet are at le right angle
>and the jutting foot is thinly done
Atrocious in a way I can't even describe. Linework needs work, basically.
>decent human gesture and line work on the ears
It's like a consolation prize for the eyes. I get that it's a doodle, but please practice more. If you absolutely have to draw furry, look over the non-loli works of Kikurage (Crayon Arts). Study, and you won't face bullying because of a grubby picture.

pls bake new thread

>>2904263
thanks m8, I was worrying nobody would take me seriously.

>>2904472
I wouldn't consider what I said all that serious, but no problem.

I tried to address the changes, not sure if the fade works or not

>>2904514
Right arm looks like its using different muscles for the same thing, And, it seems like the face has the most fade, like she's disappearing slowly.

>>2904574
Thanks for the quick repsonse, is this better?

>>2904611
Yes, now apply the blue fade to the wrecked buildings immediate to her, as they should probably be a bit more faded.

>>2904626
Hopefully it's not faded too much. Thanks again for the help.

>>2904647
Oh, no problem! While this thread sinks, mind critiquing >>2904009? Already got a redline, but I'd appreciate your opinion.

>>2904652
I'll take a look when I can the next day, kind of embarassing to say this but it's already 338am here lol

>>2904655
Ah, good night, and thanks! I was concerned about the look of my stylization, mostly. No rush.

I feel that there is a great truism to the fact that over-rendered stuff tends to be more stiff than sketches, although I have seen few people able to achieve both simultaneously. Very few tho

i drew sayaka

>>2904726
Who are those few?

new thread, now go draw something

>>2905096
>>2905096
>>2905096

Perspective test I did based on a friend's photo reference.