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2878649 No.2878649 [Reply] [Original]

Why aren't you using BOXES LMAO yet, so you can be just like Kim Jung Gi?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVn205YsQhY

>> No.2878667

>>2878649
i am, now fuck off faggot

>> No.2878694

>>2878649
I thought everybody was doing that?

>> No.2878695

>>2878649
dude

boxes

lmao

>> No.2878971

>>2878694
Everybody besides KJG

>> No.2879074

>>2878971
>Everybody besides KJG

The man in the video teaching anatomy must be some kind of imposter then.

>> No.2879100

>>2878649
Did kim jung gi get exposed to some hardcore radiation or gamma rays when he was daring as a kid that gave him these crazy abilities? That makes sense, he's like one punch man. He has these crazy abilities but whenever someone asks he just says ayy boxes lmao. He probably doesn't know the true cause of his powers himself.

>> No.2879112

>>2879100
>man spends literally decades drawing nonstop morning to night and focusing on form and memorizing what things look like
>"he must have been hit by radiation because he draws well!"

>> No.2879113

>>2879100
He got hit in the head by a baseball and has drew ever since.

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2879144

and to think he only started drawing because he got too old for modeling!

>> No.2879149

>>2879112
I'll take "What is a joke?" for 200 Alex!

>> No.2879164

>>2879144
>tfw being good looking really is a requirement to make it

>> No.2879165

>>2878649
I suck at perspective and drawing boxes, so I can't. Although, anime anatomy class with boxes when?

>> No.2879167
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2879167

>>2879144
I thought he was just fat
turns out he is THICC

>> No.2879210

>>2879167
Would drinking Kim's titty milk transfer some of his power on to me or does it only work through semen slurping?

>> No.2879569

>>2879074
Yeah, but that's the thing. He's not really drawing any boxes if you look at the video.
Even when he is drawing actual boxes, he's not really drawing boxes.

>> No.2879574

I would unironically suck his cock and swallow every day for a year if I got his drawing skills

>> No.2879575

>>2879164
>asian
>dyel
no

>> No.2879659

>>2879574 you'd regret it

>> No.2879685
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2879685

>>2878649

Any more vids like this? This is awesome.

>> No.2879689

>>2879685
>never complain
How do I do this?

>> No.2879693

>>2879689
It's really quite simple, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH1fX_ZTjuo

>> No.2879698

>>2879689
>>2879693
shorter version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37HXByCFyhg

>> No.2879700

Jung Gi said that he used to draw 100 boxes, 100 faces and 100 figures every day. On top of that, he drew 10 miles of straight lines every single day. For three whole years straight. Even when his linework started to look shaky due to drawing so much, he didn't hesitate. He also ate 3 meals a day, even if it was a single banana in the morning. Oh, and turn your room temperature to cold to get used to it (so that your mind and body get used to cold temperatures.)
After a while he noticed that his hair was falling off. That's when he realized he has gotten better.
Bare in mind that he did that EVERY SINGLE DAY for three years straight, without a single rest day.

>> No.2879701

>>2879700
WAN BOOXXXXX!!!

>> No.2879704

>>2879700
If someone even did this there's no doubt they would be good anyways, itMs 3 whole years.

>> No.2879710

>>2879700
lol

>> No.2879904

>>2879685
>want to draw cute anime girls
>will be regarded honorably
What did he mean by this?

>> No.2879940
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2879940

>>2879700
Kek

>> No.2879973

>>2878649
Ok.

But how do I eyeball perfect boxes in curvilinear perspective?

>> No.2880000

>>2879973
Practice

>> No.2880011

>>2879973
Well developed spatial memory, muscle memory and good knowledge of the subject you want to draw.
You'll want to have built up the key parts of the image in your mind before you even put pen to paper.

And all these things can be improved by practice.

>> No.2880013

>>2880000
>>2880011
Can you recommend any exercises?

>> No.2880015

>>2880013
I hear ISIS give lessons on drawabox

>> No.2880024

>>2880013
Draw more boxes lol

I honestly don't know. But I would imagine:
Perspective drawing like a mothafucka.
Construction (Loomis and shit).
Draw from life and take a gesture drawing class with live model.
Draw from imagination.
Draw from photos.
Draw more.
Work in real life 3D, like sculpture.

Do anything where you would imagine your sense of 3D space is improved.

And when practising, draw with a medium you can't erase. So you'll have to put more effort into the placement of each line.

>> No.2880027

>>2880024
So you don't know?

>> No.2880033

>>2880027
Doing things like that have gotten me better at it, and I think it makes sense.
But no, I don't know.

But really it doesn't matter. Because if you want to get gud, you need to do these things either way.

>> No.2880042

>>2880000
nice numbers

>> No.2880058

>>2879704
But that's literally what he did.

>> No.2880069

I don't so much want his drawing ability as much as his work ethic. If only they could bottle that.

>> No.2880154

I'm sorry if I sound like a faggot, but is there a book or tutorial for the box method of drawing?

>> No.2880159

>>2880154
Yeah. It's not in English though.

>> No.2880160

>>2880154
My mommy told me not to talk o people that sound like faggots.

>> No.2880165

>>2880159
Is it in pictures?

>> No.2880405

>>2880154

Scroto. Robo bean.

>> No.2880414

>>2880154
1. Imagine a box.
2. Draw the rest of the damn owl.

>> No.2880542

>>2879700
what is this from?

>> No.2880546

>>2880542
It's a reference to a comedic scene in One Punch Man where the main character is asked how he got his superhuman strength and lists some ordinary daily exercises.

>> No.2880710

>>2879700
This is actually a lot of drawing. If any anon does this they could probably get good.

A more human level would be 10x instead of 100x and like 10 pages of sketches

>> No.2880760

>>2880542
Two-Kick Tootie

>> No.2880801

>>2880542
3 pump man

>> No.2880837

i do, in the same way he uses them, invisibly in my mind. although i cant do it as well as he can . i do think about this when drawing.

>> No.2881074

>>2880542
4 jump chump.

>> No.2881129

>>2880542
Ricky 5 Fingers

>> No.2881156

>>2880710
Yeah, I actually read somewhere that in his youth he filled a whole sketchbook in one day. Don't know how true it is though.

>> No.2881159

>>2881156
I mean, I could do that too, but sketchbooks aren't cheap so why would I do that

>> No.2881328

>>2880542

Two slap woman

>> No.2881359

>>2879700

Jung Gaitama

>> No.2881397

>>2879144
Yup, there it goes...my dick's out

>> No.2881399

>>2881397
Degenerates not welcome

>> No.2881402

>>2879144

Wow, I always thought N. Korea's dictator was fat. He's pretty hot.

>> No.2881408

>>2879973
His boxes aren't perfect jsyk cus he draws in a very organic intuitive way, his stuff isn't precise neither does it need to be

>> No.2881410

>>2880542

Six-Slam Sam

>> No.2881608

>>2881408
Why does his stuff look better than mathematically correct perspective?

>> No.2881801

>>2881608

Because reality sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Ok0Wx1bCE

>> No.2882340

>>2879074
>sinix
>appealing design

>> No.2882344

>>2881801
>>2882340

Literal quote from this video: "don't let Kim jung gi fool you with his random drawings of boxes".

Feel free to ignore everything he says.

Sinix couldn't draw a symmetrical face in perspective even if his life depended on it.

>> No.2882351

>>2882344

His faces look fine, the guy just isn't interested in a rigid formulaic approach to drawing them. His approach is more intuitive, and if you watch any of his tutorial videos you can generally tell he has a damn good grasp of what he's doing.

>> No.2882358

>>2878667
this

>> No.2882368

>>2882340
>>2882344
you, gentlemen, are never going to make it

>> No.2882370

>>2882351
>>2882368
I really am not sure if you are trolling or not.

Can you honestly not see his mistakes in perspective?

This isn't a bashing thread, it's about who you should learn perspective from and it's definitely not sinix.

>> No.2882374

>>2882344
>>2882368

>'King Jung gi usually curves his perspective therefore he's changing the rules for appeal''

Is Sinix retarded? Does he not know what Curvaliniar Perspective is? That's not ignoring the rules of perspective to make something appealing, that's just following the rules of perspective.

>> No.2882381

>>2882370
for a man of his skill level, it would be natural for him to break the rules

>> No.2882386

>>2882381
Ah, trolling it is then.

Did any of you guys achieve good results with Kim's box method?

>> No.2882391

>>2882386
>>2882381
>>2882370
>>2882368

Is no one going to adress the fact this guy thinks Curvaliniar Perspective is just a Perspective where you ignore the rules for appeal? That's a major failure in his understanding

>> No.2882405
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2882405

Asians really love their BOXES

>> No.2882406
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2882406

>When you're a lazy ass that hasn't learned how to take pride in suffering and waste your time shitting on others who have made it and are trying to teach you how to make it but you rather keep bitching that face pain.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>> No.2882409

>>2882406
>when you're a shill trying to promote a channel only to fail miserably
Kys

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2882413

>>2882409

I would, but I've got boxes to draw. Ayyy lmao.

>> No.2882421

>>2881608
because our eyes don't see in correct perspective, they are round therefore visual distortions

kjg draw what his eyes see, not how mathematical calculations tell us things are

>> No.2882426

>>2882421
If that was the case everyone would draw better before studying perspective.

It clearly isn't.

>> No.2882437

>>2882426
there is drawing what you see, and there is drawing what you THINK you see

learning perspective is you a good way to show yourself where you are wrong in your THINKING, and correct it

kjg himself said his drawing skill upgraded after he learned to draw boxes in perspective. he knows perspective, but he doesn't draw correlating his subject to perspective points, but to a box around the subject, box which is in perspective

>> No.2882440

>>2879685
This is not fucking possible, you'll get stressed and depressed at some point goddamnit

>> No.2882447

>>2882440

You're scared of pain and suffering, you keep running way from it instead of embracing the darkness.

>> No.2882450

>>2882440
if you get stressed and depressed that means you are doing something wrong, and taking a break won't fix the problem, unless the stress is from lack of sleep

figure out what you are doing wrong, them keep going

>> No.2882506

>>2881399
lol faggot

>> No.2882605

>>2880542
7/11 Man

>> No.2882622

>>2882440

Well, yeah. The quote doesn't discount that. In fact, the quote itself is built upon the principle idea that working hard at anything is going to rough and emotionally unrewarding unless you begin to learn to enjoy what you're doing.

Not just brainwashing yourself into accepting the hum drum monotony of the tasks, but to strive to do it better and keep yourself engaged with improvement.

>> No.2882675

>>2879689
Just don't

>> No.2882695

>>2882405
boxes and perspective are from the european renaissance dingus

>> No.2882715

>>2882695
>implying Asians didn't discover it as well

>> No.2882736

>>2878649
I even downloaded this video. Still trying to understand how he does it.

>> No.2882738

>>2882715
They didn't though. Linear perspective was discovered in Europe and later brought over to other places like Asia. Asia only had atmospheric perspective.

>> No.2882758

>>2880542
Eight-Bait Mate

>> No.2882769

>>2882715
Depends what you mean by "discovered". They lifted the techniques (as all artists do) after seeing Brunelleschi and contemporaries circa 14th century. Before that, eh.

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2882779

>>2882715
this is what western influenced (i.e., from the European culture that formalized its observation of spacial geometry) looks like

the Japanese painted and drew what they saw, but they never studied convergence

>> No.2883101
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2883101

How do you use boxes to figure out foreshortening? Like for instance this foot? How would boxes tell me what's bigger than another body part?

>> No.2883140

Loomis already taught this shit using planes.

>> No.2883401
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2883401

Imagine you were viewing this figure from far away, all the body parts would be the same size, nothing would be bigger than anything else.

Krenz Cushart draws his figures by drawing the figure in the desired pose except in an orthographic view. He makes 2 of these drawings (front and side) and then breaks them down into perfect squares on both sides.

So a figure kneeling could maybe be 2.5 squares long and 1 square across.

He then draws a cube in perspective at his desired angle and transfers the orthographic views into the cubes.

TL;DR how Scott Robertson or Feng Zhu would draw.

>> No.2883414

>>2882758
9 keks anon

>> No.2883418

>>2883101
it doesn't tell you what's bigger than other, it tells you what's in front and what's behind.

How big or small is up to you to decide depending on how much you want to accentuate the perspective. The smaller you draw what's behind, the farther it seams, and the bigger (the more it takes up from the canvas) you draw what's in front, the closer it looks

try to play with it having that in mind

>> No.2883451

>>2879685
how to be a good goyim 101

>> No.2883467

>>2882440
>but it will get hard!
why do you think so few people make it?

>> No.2883534

>>2883401
shhhh

>> No.2883694

>>2883451

Funny, because Jews are the embodiment of working hard non-stop and that's why they get to the high positions why the lazy asses at the bottom cry wolf.

>> No.2883702

>>2883694
Working hard at back-stabbing and thievery. If it were as easy as hard work, the Chinese would be running the world. Wait...

>> No.2883715

>>2883702

Exactly my friend. It's time to stop investing time hating others and put that energy to grinding fundamentals instead.

>> No.2883760

>>2879100
most likely.

>> No.2883764

>>2879574
what the fuck would you do with that skill then? you'd be gay as fuck, after a year of sucking cock and we all know you want the skill to impress bitches. check mate .

>> No.2883769

>>2879700
immersion. yeah, no one wants anything this bad today, there is too many compromising goodies to curb your iron ambition

>> No.2883777

>>2880546
thanks

>>2881410
this actually doesn't sound bad

>> No.2883779

skusme guys, why has no one made an actual doll with all the skeletal muscle stuff from gelatin and or liquid filled or silicon tubing to really make a nice doll, isn't there 3d printers and all that shit now /?

>> No.2883853

>>2883779
They do, they're called real dolls and people are too busy fucking them to draw em.

>> No.2883867
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2883867

I wonder how many neigh sayers actually spent two weeks drawing boxes in perspective by eye for 3 or 5 hours a day before coming here to shit on this technique.

>> No.2883874

>>2878649
Can someone explain to me how this method work?

>> No.2883875

>>2883867
How did you know I did that

>> No.2883876

>>2883867
D:

>> No.2883877

>>2883874

Yes.


This method works by using your knowledge of Perspective and basic forms and then substracting complicated subjects into these basic forms. Once you acquire a good understanding of how to make any basic forms into any angle in perspective, the rest is just knowing the landmark of your subject and the relationships between the proportions.


Basically, grind perspective of the basic forms like a madman and you'll get there.

>> No.2883883

>>2883875
>>2883876

Because this technique requires mileage and understand of perspective, not a magical or genetic predisposition. I mean, even the guy is telling you to draw fucking boxes.

>> No.2883894

>>2883877
>grind perspective of the basic forms, and human anatomy*
ftfy.

>> No.2883953

Its obvious that the box method is bullshit.

It's the most basic construction used in art since the beginning of ages.

KJG just tells you what you want to hear. That there's some magic shortcut to getting good that is independent of practice and genetic predisposition.

He was teaching this for years and not a single student of his has suddenly gained incredible ability that Kim demonstrates.

Stop believing in magic and start believing in yourself. Yes, we might not be as good as Kim, but we can still make art that both we and other people can enjoy.

>> No.2883955

>>2883953

>The Box method is bullshit
>Yet that's what they teach at FZD and CGMA
>Both with proven records of making students good


Aha..could you explain why this method is bullshit?

>> No.2883957

>>2883955
The tool doesn't make you good, it's bullshit. The person had the potential to be good all along.

>> No.2883964

>>2883955
Becsuse the box method is literally linear perspective.

FZD and CGMA teach it as such and don't mislead their students into believing they know voodoo.

>> No.2883967

>>2883964

And Kim misleads people into believing it's voodoo? Cause to me it looks like the people saying that are a bunch of lazy asses than would rather bitch about muh genetics than put in the work themselves

>> No.2883969

>>2883953
>Its obvious that the box method is bullshit.
>90% weibo artists use box method
/ic/ 2017

>> No.2883970

>>2883969
>knowing about weibo artists
Chink please go.

>> No.2883973

>>2883970
/pol/tard please go away to your shit hole
just really, what are doing here?

>> No.2883976

>>2883970
>no maimed limbs from ww2 wounds
>no foreigner friends or enemies
>"chink"

edgelord, fuck off to your shitfuck

>> No.2883979

>>2883953
He doesn't have any genetic predisposition, he has years of experience. Just watch the fucking video, he does like 35 figures in 45 minutes. He's 42 years old and probably averaged 200 figure drawings a day for more than the last decade. He's said he always tries to break down designs he sees every day in his mind, so he's doing conscious intelligent practice, even when he isn't drawing he's practicing visualization.

I haven't seen anyone suggest that this technique will make you skilled quick, it's just a practice methodology (one which obviously works). You're the one believing in magic, spouting your genetic predisposition bullshit.

>> No.2883981

>>2883967
He presents his box method as something radically different from linear/curvilinear perspective. And learning it by drawing boxes is a very slow way to learn it.
>>2883969
They're using linear perspective, regardless of how they call it.

We might as well call color theory /ic/ theory and use a color square instead of a color circle. And desperate people are going to buy that as long as the teacher is good enough.

>> No.2883982

>hey kim how do I git gud
>haha dude boxes lmao ching chong
>meanwhile boxes are an extremely common construction method but nobody is even near KJG level

Face it nerds, Kim is a turbo-autist or something.

>> No.2883983

>>2883973
>>2883976

Look at them cuckholds retort in pain. He will cum inside us!

>> No.2883994

>>2883981
Are you some kind of captain obvious who trying to act pretentious or something?

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2883998

>>2883982
>nobody is even near KJG level
turbo autists, memes lmao XD

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2884007

>>2883982
really makes you think

>> No.2884010

>>2883982
He's the best at one very specific niché, that is to sketch random shit from imagination. There are dozens if not hundreds of artists who are better overall draftsmen than he is. I know for a fact if I wanted to commission the best illustrator or comic book artist money can buy, I sure as hell wouldn't hire KJG.

>> No.2884021

>>2884007
Who is this artist?

>> No.2884030

>>2884007
>buildings drawn in 1 point perspective

Really gets the noggin' going.

>>2884010
>that is to sketch random shit from imagination

And that's exactly the point. His visual library and direct drawing skills are unprecedented. There are plenty of people out there with a better knowledge of anatomy, and whatever else, sure. KJG is not the best artist out there by any stretch of the imagination. But his directed drawing ability in particular is autism tier, and that's the point.

>> No.2884033

>>2884007
>tfw can never be able to do this because no idea how to even study cityscapes

>> No.2884037

Anyone here who had a positive experience with the box method? Did it teach you anything linear perspective lessons could not?

>> No.2884038

>>2884021
Daisuke Tajima
>>2884030
>buildings drawn in 1 point perspective
Well it's pretty EZ. How about you draw the same? Even with ruler. With stream. Special show for /ic/

>> No.2884042

>>2884030
Do you realize it's curvilinear? You must be fairly new to art.
>>2884038
Thanks

>> No.2884060

>>2884042
Uh I've been doing art for almost 25 years now. Been in the business for 10 years. I've been part of massive productions (won't name them for obvious reasons) and I've taught analytical drawing in a few ivy league colleges.

So don't you tell me what Curvilinear is.

>> No.2884065

>>2884060
Prove it by teaching us analytical drawing right now.

>> No.2884066

>>2884060
Your experience doesn't mean shit though in this case. You used the wrong term. Whether it was from ignorance or was a simple mistake, it still is wrong. The other anon was right to correct you.

>> No.2884068

>>2884060
This is pure baiting. You just open yourself for attack.

>> No.2884072

>>2884065
>>2884066
Spot the newfriends.

>> No.2884090

>>2884060
>hur dur I'm not retarded I was just trolling
kys

>> No.2884104

>>2881608
Because nothing in real life, visually at least, is perfectly mathematically accurate outside of the pyramids

>> No.2884429

>>2884007
holy fucking shit

that's some next level autism

>> No.2884489

>>2879569
ceci n'est pas une boîte

>> No.2884513

I literally cannot understand a single thing he is saying in the video, how am I supposed to learn from a guy talking in chinese?

>> No.2884515

>>2884513
You look at how he draws, dumb ass. What are you an artist? Or a voice recorder? Fucking stupid.

>> No.2884516

>>2884513
You aren't, that's why all the asian artists improve quicker than their western counterparts. They keep all of their knowledge hidden.

>> No.2884518

>>2884515
is this bait?

>> No.2884522

>>2884516
>tfw asian
>tfw seem to improve quicker than some people but not sure if they're just slow or I'm quick

>> No.2884525

>>2878649
I watched that video until minute 5 when he starts drawing the skeleton, I have never seen a skeleton with so many mistakes in my entire life, it goes from bones being way too big to bones literally missing, and then the guy has the nerve to call himself a god among artists

>> No.2884530

>>2884525
Post your work

>> No.2884536

>>2884522
kill yourself fucking gook

>> No.2884538

>>2884530
I am a doctor, I know about skeletons that's why I say that skeleton is shit

>> No.2884553

>>2884538
And I'm George Bush.

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2884674

This is literally loomis material guys. Why do people not believe in the loomis.

(Pg. 47, Figure Drawing For All It's Worth)

>> No.2884676

>>2884674
Beginners don't understand the genius of Loomis's books. It's something that only people who have been drawing for a while do.

>> No.2884696

>>2884676
I always felt Loomis was intermediate material and it is a mistake to recommend to beginners, but I tend to get attacked whenever I voice my opinion on it.

>> No.2884737

>>2883953
Dunning Kruger syndrome at it's finest

>> No.2884740

>>2884525
>and then the guy has the nerve to call himself a god among artists

When has he ever done that you autistic fuck?

>> No.2884741

>>2884696
You're pretty much right though. Beginners should do Keys to Drawing before Loomis. It frustrates me in the beginner threads that face study photos are posted instead of basic still lifes etc.

>> No.2885059

>>2884737
Care to elaborate?

I've backed my point, you sound like an angry autist.

>> No.2885066

>>2885059
>thinking his nonsense is an argument

>> No.2885107

>>2884674
"think in terms of the solid" is gibberish to a beginner.

>> No.2886817

>>2878649
How is it even possible to draw like that?

>> No.2887169

Daily reminder that KJG has been practicing meditation for years, and I am willing to bet my testicles he continuously visualizes basic shapes in his mind and attempts to rotate them around, from various angles and under different lighting conditions.

You too should be doing this.

>> No.2887176

>>2878649
will anyone acknowledge that that figure is wrong? the left leg is too short.

>> No.2887181

>>2887169
citation needed

>> No.2887184

>>2887181

He himself said that he continuously deconstructs objects in his head, this is a type of meditation. He's also got a picture where he is shown doing a correct meditation pose, which is why I am willing to bet that's what up.

>> No.2887682

>>2886817
That's the point.

It's not possible.

>> No.2887685

>>2887169
I too meditate (and can sit like that with eas) and rotate stuff around in my head, but that's more of a after effect of getting gud, than the other way around

how to git gud?
maybe i'll make a video after I use this technique of thinking more myself, first to prove it's actually doing something

>> No.2887713

>>2887685
post your work

>> No.2889137
File: 65 KB, 720x960, meditating mural man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2889137

>>2887184
this pic you mean?

>> No.2889140

>>2889137
Lol at that filename. My favourite will always be "the Korean Octopus" though just because of the context on how it came about.

>> No.2889177

>>2889137

Yes

>> No.2889178

>>2889137
Pretty basic pose. Is this really enough to say he's an advanced practitioner of several years?

I would probably also recommend zazen over what he's doing. Focuses more on concentration.

>> No.2889179

>>2889177
Do you practice or have experience with meditation or buddhism?

>> No.2889181

>>2889179

I practice meditation, and keep up to date with the research from a scientific viewpoint. I know jackshit about the buddist side of things, pose names and history.

>> No.2889191

>>2889181
I see, well, I would like KJG to be really into practicing meditation, but this isn't enough to go by to confidently say he does it on a consistent basis. He's sitting in what's called 'easy-pose' posture(Sukhasana). He's sitting with the mudras correctly, but Buddhism is a common practice in South Korea and it wouldn't be odd for him to have basic knowledge of it. He has a good visual memory as we all know.

>> No.2889202

>>2889191

What form of meditation do you practice? Have you noticed any effects on cognition and, or mood caused by it? If yes, what?

>> No.2889205

>>2889140
why is he called that?

>> No.2889242

>>2889202
Zazen, or Zen Buddhism. I was also doing tai-chi, but I don't like it nearly as much as zazen. I haven't been consistent lately but I was very consistent last semester.

It's hard to really pinpoint cognitive benefits because it's hard to self-observe yourself changing cognitively, if you know what I mean. It's similar to mental benefits from exercise or eating a healthy diet. In terms of sitting(zazen), your 'concentration power' clearly grows to some degree. If you haven't done zazen for a long time, even five minutes is a pain. The posture itself is annoying, breathing is stiff, and counting seems impossible. But if you gradually work up your sessions and stay consistent, it becomes bearable and the general feeling changes, making even a 15-minute or 20-minute session completely different in feeling. It's clearly something, but I don't know what it is.

In general I was pretty open-minded and felt pretty able to deal with life's challenges. I also was reading the Tao Te Ching on a frequent basis and reflecting upon it, so that helped as well.

If I were to design a 'kjg-box' schedule, there's a few things I would keep in mind. Twice a day at least, 7 days a week, 5 minutes per session at the start, increase by a minute per week until you finally hit ~13 minutes per session, it's hard to really get further than this point, even in zazen it's when I feel it takes considerably more discipline to keep increasing your duration. Rotating boxes is not merely the only thing you should visualize. I would visualize a whole array of the concepts in this blog post. You should also be drawing these things outside of your mental practice, otherwise your efforts will be inefficient. You are replicating the feeling or whatever in your head as if you were doing it on paper. Don't seek to really 'see on the back of your eyelids' i.e. hallucination.

http://autodestructdigital.blogspot.com/2014/02/wield-weld.html?zx=e5616ec0edc96931

>> No.2889246

>>2889205
I think it was at a THU event, Mullins was there and was asked about if he was excited for it or something and responded that he was just there to see the Korean Octopus draw. It was just a funny offhand remark at the time but I like it because it's an odd thing to say and I like Mullins a lot.

>> No.2889264

>>2889242

Thanks Anon, that's really interesting, and potentially valuable info.

>> No.2889286

>>2889246
oh, i remember that, but at the time I though it was already a think and didn't ask about it, thinking I'll get it in time like with most memes

>> No.2889356

>>2889246
Didn't he say "Korean printer" though?

>> No.2889550

>>2889356
Isn't that quite disrespectful?

>> No.2889589

>>2889550
from ic perspective? yes, we use that for those which mindlessly copy

but I don't think mullins use it with that meaning, and referenced how he doesn't do sketches but draws in one go from one part of the page to the next

>> No.2889677

>>2884489
lol

>> No.2890722

So let's say I figured it out.

What should I do with this knowledge?

>> No.2890725

>>2890722

Definitely nothing weaboo, please.

>> No.2890726

>>2890722
Kill yourself

>> No.2890807

>>2889202
Not the anon you're quoting, but I have a basic knowledge of buddhist scriptures and most common "Zen" teachings. None of them apply specifically to drawing or even craftsmanship as a whole. As a general principle Buddhism is concerned more with the overall functioning of the mind than the specifics of how to hone the mind to excel in a particular type of thinking or achieving a certain goal. I'd certainly recommend meditation and Buddhist philosophy in general for understanding the mind, but you're probably not going to find the benefits described in the terms as limited as "you'll be able to do X, you'll be free from Y". In practical terms mediation will help you to realize how your mind, and generally all phenomena, function, and how you can relate to these things skillfully.

Most Zen teachings aren't of the spirit "This is the lesson you should learn", but "Experience this thing I'm pointing to right now." A few canon "Zen" texts you can refer to are the Diamond Sutra, Heart Sutra, Platform Sutra, and Lankavatara Sutras. A big part of Buddhism is actually doing the meditation and experiencing firsthand the things being taught. You can't just read about them, but they are things you can learn and apply to your everyday life. As a philosophy you're encouraged to test what you're taught and only apply it if you find it to be true in your own direct experience.

>> No.2890824

>>2879574
You'd do it even if you got no skills from it.

>> No.2890833

Ok, I've got it.

I have to stop practicing fundamentals and start meditating.

Thanks /ic/, we're all going to make it.

>> No.2890834

>>2890833

No you tardie, you gotta do both. Not only separately, but at the same time too. Meditate while you draw, focus all your attention and completely get yourself rid of distractions. No tabs open, no tv on, no music with lyrics.

>> No.2890840

>>2890834
I dont think you understand what meditation is.

>> No.2890841

>>2890840

Focusing attention on a object, feeling or thought for long periods of time, going back to it once your mind decides to wander off track? There's nothing else to it, it's called paying attention

>> No.2890843

>>2890841
So you're saying that I should pay attention while I study?

>> No.2890845

>>2890843

Yes, and practice paying attention while you're not. So you actually build paying attention as a fundamental skill. It's been proven that meditation has a powerful impact in cognitive preservation and reduction of anxiety, so you can't really go wrong with it.

>> No.2891172

>>2890845
If you were paying attention, you'd realize it was sarcasm. Go meditate on that.

>> No.2891204

>>2890722
porn

>> No.2891209

>>2891172
lol

>> No.2891280

>>2889356
>>2889246
sauce? is this from an youtube interview video or what

>> No.2891293

>>2891280
It was from the event itself. You'll need to probably buy it and listen through it. If you search the archives you might find someone who mentions the timestamp.