/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Op here, dumping what I do have myself

Anybody have anymore? I'm a leech sorry

>>2874465
Here's a good one: draw from real life.

>>2874469
Not that anon but I'm op. I do draw from life but there's not a lot of solid resources on doing expressions and I feel weird drawing myself or people I know.

I know something has been posted in a tutorial thread before that might help it "click" with me yknow what I mean bro?

Some people need a different perspective on things to figure it out, there's nothing wrong with tutorial threads so long as people balance it with drawing from life.

But drawing from life isn't the end-all be-all of studying.

>>2874465

>>2874527
Wait is this all from the book? Time to pick it up.

>>2874540
Wonder if the art book thread has it for a cheapskate like me?

>>2874489
Thanks for the honest advice, I feel the same way about still life and portraits, sometimes you just need a little inspiration for that 'click' moment to happen. Again I appreciate it.

>>2874434
How does that make any sense? The mouth shouldn't get less wide if it's being stretched. The side being stretched should align closer to the edge of the eye but the other side should also get pulled a bit too. terrible tip.

>>2874438
Why do digital artists always over-post process? This looked best at stage four or five.

>>2874601
It's totally possible to push a corner of a lip inward.

>>2874612
Because of personal preference.

>>2874537
I dont understand how this works??

>>2874630
It's basically painting the lighting effects entirely separately one by one similar to how a 3d program treats things (ambient occlusion, speculars, local colours etc), and you do it all on different layers then set the layer modes so that they stack into the final result.

>>2874592
No problem. It's how I feel and honestly it's unrealistic to expect people to only study when they draw 100% of the time. Sometimes you just wanna doodle but don't want the doodle to look like shit.

You do you man just don't forget to balance!

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>>2874489
Stupid cooldown...

>>2874489
Found another one on expressions.

>>2876455
Smalltime.

>>2874537
Love that ambient occlusion shit

>>2876478
is that cglas?

>>2876442
derp faces all of them, literally.

>>2876460
>that brush
no wonder you suck, you dont even know how to set up your own shit

>>2876478
What on earth is this ambient oclussion painting? It makes it look 3D. Also using dodge and multiply is actually okay? I thought they were tools to never be used. What's the difference between specular and light too? What about color dodge?

>>2874434
https://mega.nz/#F!akEClTjS!pIazLW7kw7SKjcEU5x1h1g
under info - ic
still missing a couple hundreds that i've dl from recent threads prob i'll updated it one of these days

>>2876478
How can a painting look /beg/ tier half of the process and sakimi-pro-level the other half...

>>2876511
Ambient occlusion is mapping the light intensity where it hits the surface. Learn to shade a sphere, box and a cylinder and you should be good to go.
>tools to never be used
There's no such a thing.

>>2876511
>>2874648 mentioned it
Ambient occlusion is just painting the shadows where light can't reach.
I think it's a nice aesthetic

>>2876442
>put the eyes slightly crossed because it's focusing on something
HOLY SHIT, I'M A FUCKING IDIOT. NO WONDER MY EYES ALWAYS LOOK LIKE SHIT

>>2876545
Holy shit, right anon? It makes so much fucking sense when you think about it.

>>2876448
>5-6 hours of inking an image
Is... is this real?
Is this how much time you spend on only one stage of your drawing?

>>2876558
It's like you don't even draw or something, anon. Yeah, it takes a long time. Like up to 30 hours just to get to a semi-finished stage.

>>2876558
Absolutely not, that person just doesn't have enough practice.

Comic book artists can get an entire typical page inked within 5-6 hours.

time to post a surge of these I have sitting on my phone.

Some butt

>>2876511
ambient occlusion is painting what the shadows would be if the object was lit equally from every direction, so you just have shadows in crevaces

>>2876594
That is the most unshapely ass I have seen

>>2876722
It's what a normal butt looks like.

>>2876723
Then everyone should doing squats if they have typical white ass syndrome

>>2876725
>Not liking a butt that provides just enough pushin'cushion and naturally contours to your hand while making PURE white panties look like a gift straight from the forges of god
What, are you a faggot or something?

>>2876594
>okay okay
>draw a pear
>oh you don't know how?
>well spend a few days learning how to draw three dimensional objects
>okay now draw legs
>oh you don't know how?
>well spend a few weeks learning how to draw figures
>okay now draw thigh highs
>oh you don't know how?
>well spend a few months learning perspective
>okay now add line weight
>oh you don't know how?
>well spend a few years learning how light and shadow works
>okay now add color
>you don't know?
>not gonna make it

>>2876731
>enough pushin'cushion = barely enough muscle to move their legs and can't crush a watermelon between their thighs and will be unable to run from predators/catch prey


SHIT TASTE. Your child will be weak if you breed with someone of those genes.

>>2876758
>implying how muscle looks isn't based on genes
>also don't need to crush a watermelon between her thighs nor run away from predators/catch prey.

>>2876594
wheres the rest of it

fuckn bump got a new PC and too lazy to transfer my art folder over gimme these shits

Background Tutorial~

Also, this damn cooldown.

Halfway there, boys~

And the last one~

Are there any tutorials on how to draw a straight line from imagination?

>>2876841
Huh, interesting. Didn't know that.

>>2876460
blog?

>>2876588
>symmetrical legs
DON'T BELIEVE THE LIEEES

>>2876896
I don't get it.

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>>2876834
>>2876835
/beg/ here, how would you go from step three to step four? would you use references, or am I just a lazy ass?

>>2876558
The average pro-level illustration for book covers, board games and shit takes 12-15 hours not accounting for sketching and corrections.

>>2876931
You can use reference or you just use your imagination.

>>2876758
The one producing testosterone is meant to be you.
Maybe you should be looking for a husband instead of barren musclewomen.

>>2876953
>having thigh muscle = barren, test'd up musclewoman

SHIT LOGIC TO GO WITH YOUR SHIT TASTE

>>2876829
oh my fucking god that's what those perspective things mean by "horizon"

>>2876953
Are you daft?
The high test meme means that men with high test will go for thicker women because their brains tell them to go to the females with wider hips.
If women have hip + thigh muscles then in turn they will have wider hips.
Better breeding quality.

>>2876898
Legs aren't perfect hourglass shapes. The inside of the leg is differently shaped than the outside due to the muscles.

>>2876971
A bitch with wide muscular legs or obese thighs giving the ilussion of a good waist-hip ratio will not produce a healthier kid than a rather slim woman with an actually good waist-hip ratio.

Like everything ever, it's bitches being manipulative bitches and playing with men's dickbrain.

>>2876978
Well, yeah, but it's pretty close. Isn't it?

>>2876978
>>2877011

>>2877011
Bruh, that thigh is close to a D shape. What is your definition of "close"?

>>2877014
Fucking perfectly summed up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TXEZ4tP06c

>>2877051
I remember how great this was the first time.
The second time I watched it months after I had learn to draw, I realized this was completely bullshit.

>>2876460
I still appreciate this goofy layer gif.
>>2876836
The env tutorials are good too.

>>2877052
Yeah, but he proved his point, didn't he. You can draw.

I thought it was shit from the get-go because those are some really fucking terrible drawings. I guess you'd find them okay if you didn't know how to draw. But it's a valid point, anyone can draw. I don't know why majority of people thinks it's off limits for them.

>>2877004
Again, how retarded are you. No healthy man is going to go for some obese cunt.
Hips that are wide, will be wide.
You're talking stupid extremes, which not that many people are. And if you go to /fit/ you'll most likely find a thread with nice healthy curvy girls.
You're fucked in the head.

>>2877131
>You're fucked in the head.
this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEAvFGOnjZs
MUST WATCH VISUAL IMA LONER VERY POSITIVE!!!!

>>2876455
drawing in a nutshell

>>2876852
There are some great exercises for that in first chapter of Robertsons book "How To Draw".

>>2877133
Pretty shit, brugh. All noise and no symbolism.

>>2876478
>when the sketch is better than the finished painting
evry tiem

>>2876971
The high test meme is fucking autists trying to normalize their love for fat chicks.
Now fuck off you thiCCQCQQCC memeing faggot

Are there any good tutorials on drawing different kinds of fabric that shows the difference between how the fabric flows or folds and such?

>>2877300
666pigeon@twitter posted this. She's too OP though.

>>2877355
She must really love to paint drapes.

>>2876478
I tried following this tutorial for a quick experiment in >>2877475 so come give critiques, if you want

somebody post the joke tutorials where picture of some very weird people get used as photobash to paint an environment.

anybody have a tutorial on the male pelvis that can finally make things click in my brain?

>>2877498
Not a tutorial, but try to find a pdf of Die Gestalt des Menschen by Bammes. He has some amazing pelvis breakdowns.

>>2876741
>pear
holy shit anon you are fucking retarded

>>2877499
hey thanks, this looks promising so far

>>2877131
>/fit/
No wonder you're such a faggot.

>>2876533
>https://mega.nz/#F!akEClTjS!pIazLW7kw7SKjcEU5x1h1g
Thank you friend.

Thanks everyone who contributed I found a lot of what I was looking for.

>>2877507
ahahaahahahahahahaha

>>2876478
i gave this a shot on a simple doodle but im not understanding some things like layer orders for these instructions. i think it looks okay though

>>2874537
last panel ruined it

>>2879377
that looks deviant art tier. Was this your 100% or a doodle?

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>>2880412
Did you read what I wrote?
>Gave this a shot on a simple doodle
>Simple doodle

Your answer was in my original post bru. Yes. It was a doodle. I drew something in legit five seconds for the sole purpose of trying out some techniques.

guys, these are gonna be so useful. thanks for posting these.

pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>>2880475
usually in the stuff I read about perspective, they call the line where the vanishing points lie "the horizon". I couldn't understand how it worked until they said "eye level"

>>2880643
That's because it's called the horizon.

>>2880656
I... know? Can you not read? I said I didn't understand how it worked, not that I didn't know what it called.

>>2876896
What book?

>>2880657
You're the one struggling with basic concepts m8. Merely commenting because your phrasing and putting horizon in quotes seems to imply you believe the word was misused.

>>2880661
I'm sorry but english must be your second language or you failed your literature classes if you think that was implied. Also, many people struggle with such things as perspective as they develop their skills so I'm quite happy I found something that makes it click in my head like that.

>>2880669
Glad you're making progress if it was such a difficulty, but don't get so butthurt after you've accidentally misrepresented your thoughts. I figure it was better to clarify in the event your confusion persisted, but maybe not.

>>2880677
In this case it wasn't because what you said to me was "the horizon is the horizon".

Maybe a good example of this is like saying me saying "They called it a skybox and I didn't understand how it worked until they someone called it a background texture" and then you say "that's because it's called a skybox".

Or maybe a better one would be if I said "They called it reactivity and I didn't understand how it worked until someone called it a instability" and then you say "that's because it's called reactivity"

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>>2881298

>>2881300
mama mia

requesting mickey mouse cake stacking method of design

>>2874434
>tutorial image
>looks like shit
>not even mentioning golden ratio but instead uses shitty eye-mouth ratio

>>2882106
Golden ratio is a meme.

>>2881304
kek

>>2882107
>golden ratio is a meme
Oh like you're a fucking meme? Kindly measure yourself up.
Wonder why aliens look fake? It is because they have no golden ratio and are fake as fuck CGI. Even your inferior western cartoons and fucking COMPANY LOGOS have golden ratio FFS. Maybe try drawing a tree branches without using GOLDEN RATIO and see how dead it is.

Oh see that pepsi logo? what about every disney characters? Take anything popular and you'll find the fucking irrational number. It's even in their "confidential documents" and some "patents" Why do they look appealing when they're simple as a young man's scribbles but not really? What about japan's moe? Oh kindly measure them and see the universal constant yourself. I'm giving you fuckers a hint here.

Even your favorite song have the fucking ratio. That stringed instrument? Go figure. Maybe you're just ignorant but it's not an excuse.

>inb4 sonic/trump ratio
Just because some movie or some psyop shitposter memed it in a bad way doesn't mean it's a shit meme.
If first impression = shit it makes it shit forever.
You fell to the meme and you're a slave unconsciously psyop-ing everyone. Badluck (4you and people who fell for >>2882107).

>>2876545
Hi firez

>>2882306
His brushes sound very sexual

https://youtu.be/DtAzWRfBvAA

>>2882342
>hard and dry with noise

>>2874489
>I feel weird drawing myself
Dude, get a mirror sized appropriately for wherever it is you draw, and get over it. Your own face is some of the best reference you will ever have, because it's always with you and you can usually get what you want out of it.

>>2882670
>holds pen between middle finger and index

enjoy finger cancer, millennial

>>2882167
Dude...
> Saying " ____ is a meme" is a meme

could u guise dump some on clothes?

>>2880660
looks like Design and Invention by Michael Hampton

>>2874619
But it's not something you do usually

>>2877355
oh fuck I love pigeon

>>2884200
Looks like Hampton, but it's not from Design and Invention.

>>2876544
> the subsurface scattering and bounced light appear out of nowhere on the last step

That's the part I actually want to learn

>>2883210
>explaining the meme
ugh, fun kill.

does anyone have good hair tutorials? I don't understand how to give hair form. everything I draw feels so unnatural

bump

>>2885387
arrow exercise on drawabox, mark chong's (moatddtutorials on yt) tutorial, david finch's tutorial, ahmed aldoori's tutorial

>>2888456
Saw that on Pinterest too anon
Nice palette

>>2884293

Bullshit. All of that is from the chapter on legs. I own the book. Bottom left is page 191

>>2876731
If anyone's a faggot it's you, flat-ass loving motherfucker.

>>2880734
Not that guy but how is it even possible for you to have trouble with the definition of the horizon?? It's literally just the space where the sky and earth meet.

>>2889283
Another anon here... It's not about definition, or knowing what the horizon is supposed to be. It's about truly understanding the concept of the horizon line for yourself and how it influences the appearance of a picture. Defining the horizon line in a picture is about defining the VIEWPOINT of the drawing, i.e. the EYE-LEVEL. Many people could tell you the horizon is just "where the sky and earth meet" but some portion of them would not be able to correctly place the horizon line in their image to match the particular viewpoint, nor could they even maintain consistent viewpoint in a drawing. I.e. they have no idea what is above or below their eye-level/horizon line; making the mistake of drawing objects below the eye-level/horizon as if seen from above, and vice versa.

tl;dr objects above the horizon line aren't drawn as if they were seen from below for no good reason. The horizon line is literally the height of the camera/eye-level, so logically anything above the height of the camera you would see the bottom of that object. This is not understanding that a layman possesses when they think of the horizon.

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>>2888467
Why is the most interesting stuff always in some variation of moonrunes.
You can sorta guess what's going on by looking at the drawings, but would the text really be there if it added nothing of value?

>>2889375
Some tutorials instruct you to set your layer mode to overlay/screen/luminosity for celshading etc.

>>2877051
mm nice pile of bullshiet

>>2882670
its hard to listen to this bitch. way she talks i mean
and how can one draw holding a pen like this? jesus that does not look comfy at all

The most important information you will ever need.

>>2889305
thank you for explaining it to that anon. I'm shit with words.

>>2876442
I like this process one she did better.

>>2876455
>Loomis.jpg

anyone have tips on drawing arms and hands that actually look connected to the body?

>>2889992
I've never learned so many things in one gif.

>>2892279
Do more gesture drawings and draw them from life
It will build your sense of proportions

>>2876844
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>>2876850
Why aren't these and the ones above it condensed into one image?

This triggers the fuck out of me

>>2892358
Agreed it's especially annoying that a single point is divided into 3+ images (the building perspective one).

>>2892358
Here you go, anon.

>>2892597
We the lazy, thank you.

>>2877355
does anyone know what pencil/lining brushes she uses in PS?

>>2892355
>draw hands first
holy fucking shit this changes everything

I love these.

>>2889305
It's wrong to call the horizon the eye level though because that's just not what it is. The horizon is the space where the sky meets the land. Your eye level is a completely different concept but is related to the horizon because that is how you orient your perspective. Calling them one in the same is just erroneous and misleads people into truly understanding perspective. Consider a camera at 100 ft and a camera at 0 ft, you can tilt the camera and frame the picture such that the horizon is split straight across the middle of the view. The horizon is literally in the same exact place in both pictures. Is it the eye level? No, of course not the actual camera height is the eye level; the eye level is a completely separate and distinct concept from what the horizon is. Perpetuating this nonsense just confuses new artists and conflates two separate concepts for no reason.

>>2894739
It's not about where the horizon is on the screen or canvas, it's about how other objects or things relate to it.
Objects above your eye level will appear above the horizon and vice-versa.
There is nothing wrong with seeing it like this, or at leas, I don't see how it can confuse anyone to the point of casuing any harm to the drawings.

>>2894993
Did you even read what I wrote? You literally just repeated what I said: that the horizon and eye-level are completely separate and distinct concepts. No one is disputing that you use both of these concepts to form perspective. The whole problem was the original anon's initial confusion. The original "I get it" moment for that anon was, and I quote:
>oh my fucking god that's what those perspective things mean by "horizon"
They didn't mean anything! The horizon is just the fuckin horizon. There is nothing to be confused about here. It sounds more like he was confused about the concept of eye-level was which, as we've agreed upon, is separate but related.

>>2895050
>>2894993
>>2894739
>this argument is still happening over a dumb comment i made
I-i just wanted to learn things, guys.

Any good ones on eyes and eyelids? I feel it's a real weak point for me.

>>2897098
oh, and preferrably a tutorial of right vs. wrong ways of drawing them, I learn the most from those.

>>2874578
>figner tips

>>2874546
can confirm, i picked it up and it's fucking great

>>2876455

>>2874436
a companion piece :^)

>>2897608
That's a decent looking dick

Can someone post the "hentai" coloring guide? it was a technique using blending tools in CSP posted last week IIRC

>>2882306
SHUT THE FUCK UP

HARD & WET

I have a lot of tutorials I'm willing to share

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>>2901318
Stop. Just post link to this site.

>>2901321
what? scared someone might git gud?

>>2901329
>http://www.angelfire.com/art3/kchendemos/
No. You just cancer who ruins tutorial/reference threads by posting shit low quality tutorials ripped from tumblr or epic pinterest instead of original sources.

>http://onlyparkland.tumblr.com/post/124940422856

>>2901317
>http://bordel.haghn.com/Art/howto/studies/

I need some good tutorials on different face features that doesn't show only one fucking position

>>2882167
I absolutely love this place sometimes.

>>2876971
So, are you telling me to bulk up in the thigh and hip area and I'll profit? The bigger the thighs the better the prize? The wider the hips the better he gets?

>>2876971
So, are you telling me to bulk up in the thigh and hip area and I'll profit? The bigger the thighs the better the prize? The wider the hips the better he gets?

>>2882167
Are there any places or textbooks for reading more about the use of this ratio in art? Or anything like it.
I get the feeling that it's the reason I'll see artists draw seemingly random triangles on their canvas to tweak their focal points, and I want to understand the practice better if there's resources on it. I don't see it mentioned in the places I typically look, and most of what I can pull up in a search engine is just introductory stuff.

anyone got any for eyes/general facial construction? I read the thread and might've saved a few but more could always be useful

inb4 loomis

>>2882167
>fail for this bait
>search golden ratio paintings on google
>this shit rectangle thrown at random places in random sizes

LOOK I CAN DO IT TOO! I AM A MASTER YET? XD

>>2876588
this is like some grand revelation on figure drawing and making a head from a sphere. is the artist bad or do i have brain damage?

>>2901819
Neither. You're just bad.

>>2882336
what if its his style to have that mouth breathing glazed over look?

>>2876588
a Good way I heard about drawing arms is drawing them like links of a chain - dunno if the same can be said for legs but

>>2892625
Hard round for 99% of it, and a speckled/dust brush for imperfections and highlights

>>2876558
No, this artist focuses too much on the high res version looking clean. It's a waste of time. Pros use a rough brush and size that shit down.

>>2901686
Not the op but this is fucking stupid. Thats not the golden ratio faggot. You dont even know what it is yet youre bitching about how its not real.

>>2901686
Here you go dumbass, heres how to use it correctly.

For everone else lurking, this is how you become shitty at anything. If you think you know everything there is to know about something, you dont know shit and you never get better.

>>2892307
I don't really see what you learned. It looks cool but that's about where it ends for me.

>>2902320
What the fuck is this shit? Just a bunch of numbers. Left side says 0 and right side says 38 what the flying fuck.

>>2902652
the "0" just means that all 3 divisions are of equal length. the rest are percentages/ratios for locating the landmarks of the body.

>>2892355
I find this hard to believe.

>>2902847
don't study without purpose. know exactly why you're bothering with the gestures
>in this case it has to do with hands
so make sure that by the end of the gestures you've collected a stronger understanding of how the arms and hands connect to the body given their position and orientation in space with regard to the position and orientation of the body.

If you know what you're looking for, studying from life is should be at least as straightforward as studying science or mathematics.

>>2902932
Oh, I was referring to the image. Fucking floating hands.

>>2902847
>>2902940
Within range of motion.
You can place your own hands wherever you want within your range of motion. The arms adjust to this position pretty much automatically. When you move a hand, you don't think about moving your joints separately from the body outwards to reach a point with your arms.

It only makes sense for your characters to be able to do the same.

Also, you can always go and try it out.

>>2902955
My range is very limited depending on the angle of a billion things I make, I really can't see this working. Maybe cartoons can use that shit more.

>>2889375
>>2888468
This one isn't a tutorial; it's a showcase of recently seen coloring styles for painterly(?), galgames, anime and shojo manga.

>>2905660
Interesting
Thanks for the trans

Are there any good tutorials about limbs in perspective? Every drawing with a limb that's pointing at the POV tends to turn into a blobby mess.

>>2905694
Wait why is it warm and cool?

If I read all the images in this thread will I get even a little bit better?

>>2905707
Yes

>>2905707
nope.
gotta practice and apply, first, dude.

>>2897608
kek

>>2897608
So that's how you draw a cockatoo

>>2905832
what this thread realy needs is a tutorial on how to draw Tits and Boobies.

>>2906032
And dicks, and asses

>>2906032
Look here: >>2889481
And I've got a few of them too.

>>2906481
And another one.

>>2905707

If you apply the good advice.

>>2906481
>>2906484
>tfw still can't draw tits because line weight and value

>>2902847
>>2902940
>>2902955
Inverse Kinematics

>>2905702
Sunlight and most artificial light sources tend to be warm, while ambient light reflected in the shadows comes from the environment (such as the blue sky). Of course this doesn't and shouldn't apply to every case.

>>2906532
Well then, you know what to work on so stop crying and get drawing.

>>2874577
just to add to this from experience, do anything that involves extension like the bow pose or cow pose to develop back muscles that prevent herniated discs from hunching over, avoid the flexion ones if you are always in flexion.

THANKS EVERYONE

>>2876969
Anon, you might be retarded.

>>2892597
I actually think the bottom composition is better with clouds framing rather than using one for contrast.

>>2908954
They just have different purposes. One is more heavyhanded for a quick read. If you're not sold on the idea of clouds as a white shape behind the focal point just look at NC Wyeth, he practically invented that shit.

>>2889992
who's the artist?

>>2908965
But they both look like comic pages or illustrations, where you want the composition to be heavy handed and straightforward. The contrast thing does work, but I just think its a lot less picturesque especially if the tower is the focus.

How do you even learn to do anime shading?

I can shade general stuff like spheres, boxes, etc. But when it comes to muscle, fabrics, leathers, etc. I just can't see to understand how the shadows work at all.

>>2909007
Digital shading/coloring:
>Make sure your painting program is set to whole canvas mode and not single layer mode for fill
>Make a layer for base tones (base color layer)
>Fill shapes with your base tones
>Make a low opacity layer (shading layer)
>Pick an off-black color (navy blue/deep scarlet/whatever fits your lighting)
And then either
>Render shadows by just drawing them in
and/or
>Fill everything with your shadow color and use the eraser to render them in reverse

Then you do post-processing by burning/smuding/etc and making new layers for detailed shadows. There's guides in this thread that have similar and other useful information but this is the general process for any kind of digital cartoon/anime artwork.

>>2909007
>>2909070
Oh and if you mean like shadow placement, just think of where the light is coming from and use lots of references. Light is kinda wonky, but there's a cheat code in realizing everything is reflective (which is why we can even see, everything reflects light into our eyes but at different angles depending on the source).

>>2909070
>>2909079
Yeah I meant more of how the placement would be.

I get it to some degree, like there are certain things that are easy to shade, but when it comes to the human body, my brain just breaks in trying to make it look good, even with just a simple layer over the top of it for shading.

Like take DBZ for example, the way the muscles are shaded there, are so weird to me, like I can't use myself as a reference because the light in my house aren't that strong so it ends up being like 1/4 of me is lit and the rest is just pure dark, which looks rather weird I must say on a drawing, as opposed to the little bit of say light on the opposite shoulder from the light source.

I don't know why, never been good at it before.

>>2909091
Use lots of references like I said, light is one of the things you can pretty much never master because it's such a clusterfuck(especially when you're dealing with more than one source). Don't reference actual anime or manga frames because they use shortcuts to make things look good but not necessarily correct.

Mainly don't sweat it though, you can nail down form and construction without touching on light and color. Just kinda keep it in the back of your mind until you need it.

>>2909096
I feel ya on that. I can draw pretty much fine or replicate any reference when it comes to shading, but doing it from scratch truly is a clusterfuck.

Appreciate the help though.

>>2908950
At least read the replies, man.

If any anons had some tutorials related to oil or acrylic painting they could post, I'd be very grateful

>>2889283
yeah right, because the sky and earth meet is always at the eye level

and if you first language uses the ''horizontal'' word as in ''the whole field of view'', good luck, because it makes perfect fucking sens the ''horizontal line'' is at the ''eye level''

>>2912455
I like these bugemen as a concept greatly.

Are there any advanced guides on perspective, ideally on construction for figures or general shapes in relation to each other?

Im not sure if this is the best place to ask, but does anyone have any CGMA courses on Mega or torrent?