/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

what do you think

drew a kid that came into the gallery i was working in

>>2868056
downsize it. boobs dont work like that..
>>2868063
damn those fingers are long


thoughts on anatomy/hatching?

>>2868072
How do you know the muscle placements so well through the skin?

>>2868072
I assume your goals are to be able to go straight to drawing without using pencil and inking it. So why bother doing an underdrawing in pencil? Just learn to draw with pens. Who cares if you fuck up, that's what you want to do isn't it?

>>2868080
sometimes i do freehand, but with bigger and more complex pieces i want every line thought through before i lay it with ink

>>2868078
some cool ref i found on /ic

thoughts?

>>2868107
I wonder what goes through your type of people's heads. I could never pump out something like this.

>>2868107
some parts look flat due to the fat white borders

pic is something I just finished, hope you pervs like it, kind of inspired by D.Va from Overwatch

trying to make good art

>>2868056
fix her nipples, they look like emoji poops
her back looks like she has scoliosis
her face is okay (maybe her nose is off)
and hands look like crab claws

just got some doodles from the last few days.

>>2868181
Nose is way too tiny imo
>>2868279
I think you drew the nose in side view on the top left one, the pointy bit should be facing the viewer

working through this. trying to focus on crosshatching for a while

>>2868382
How do you know what kind of line to put down and where in this approach to drawing?

>>2868394
you can only cross hatch something in one area four times. | _ / or \, so assuming you've already hatched the object with two lines according to the form, to darken an area you just do one or both of the other two types of line

a lot of it is just following form, as if you were making a mesh on top of the object with the lines, but some lines taper off and don't go all the way around the object.

The hardest part is making sure lines you hatched on one side of an object match up with lines you hatched on another side of the object. that part still eludes me.

>>2868397
Try not outlining the form and pay closer attention to fading from one value to another, the outlines and blocky shapes destroy your depth. I've seen your paintings so I think it's intentional design choice like Cezanne but I hate the wonky looking plates and stuff , I'd rather you show the contrast between the organic and geometric shapes.

>>2868279
that first head is really retarded looking. first of all we wouldn't be seeing her right ear from that perspective and it's way too high. her left ear is too close to her left eye. her jawline isn't in correct perspective. her mouth is off center and is just floating on her face. a head isn't a toy where you can put the facial features wherever you want, like mr. potato head.

your linework is nice, but you're just another fuccboi who puts linework before strong drawing skills. gain some real observational skills, read LOOMIS, stop looking at anime.

>>2868441
>re-read LOOMIS

>>2868382
learn how to crosshatch

>>2868382
lazy

>>2868441
Why are you so mad?
>linework
>not an aspect of strong drawing skills

Guts from Berserk

>>2868520
>>>/beg/

I'm not at all very happy with the dude. But I'm trying to get into system to always post shit I've put down some time on, especially if it's shit as a sort of punishment.
So feel free to tell me how shit I am.

And if anyone actually recognizes who they are supposed to be, I'll give you a BJ.

Anyone got a good way to start a figure?

I just kinda start wherever and it never feels right...

>>2868613
start with a stick figure and then build your forms on top of that

or do a gesture and then refine it with proper anatomy, perspective and lighting

and stop being a degenerate

>>2868613

>>2868552
Another one. Trying to get my head around Reilly, but not sure how to make it accurate to the source material.

20min warmup from morning

>>2868332
Is this better?

>>2869023
another warm-up today after that

what do u think about my Hayley?

>>2869153
>Please make sure your posted image is clear, DOWNSIZED TO AROUND 1000 PIXELS WIDE, ROTATED TO THE CORRECT ORIENTATION,

>>2869153
Everything is good except the shitty face rendering where you smudge.

>>2869039
I think proportionally, the tip of the nostrils should line up with the end of the eyes. But obviously your doing stylized stuff so you don't have to adhere to that to rigorously. I think it's better now tho.

>>2869149
lol...

>>2869226

>>2869242
not place to post your shitty le memes fag boy, stop taking up space

>>2869284

>>2869286
do it again derail this some more

>>2869295

this paintings so fun to edit. i think im done with it though

Gotta fix them gorilla arms (shit, the shoulders and neck are fucked too, now that I look at it) and the rendering is obviously nowhere near done. But, I dunno, what else needs to be fixed before I proceed?

>>2869403
I dont know. i find nothing about it.. appealing. Are you the apple bloke?

I don't fuckin know...

Slowly but surely it's coming together

>>2868715

Been off it for a couple months yet i feel I've improved.

>>2869403
You've come a long way brian. Proud, senpai.

Still hate you tho.

>>2869646
Why would you render out the light before you finish the composition and linedrawing?

It's nowhere near done, just hope it gives off a hint of vapourwave

>>2868053
something feels off, it doesnt quite have that level of realism im aiming for but i dont know what im missing

>>2869808
This is really good, anon! Welcome back to drawing, don't stick around here too much, you get stuck. :)

Also, looking at this photo from the thumbnail size, it looks like some mutant with a very cylindrical head, and a huge nose and eyes. kek

>>2869861
I don't know. I think the edges are wrong, or at least they're not accurate. The contrast between the hard and soft ones make it look unfinished.

>>2869861

I dunno, I had a play around. You could try and work on the colours a bit

>>2869808
That happens to me all the time. Especially noticeable during live model drawing sessions that have pauses during the summer and around Christmas.
You'd expect the first few drawing of the season to be complete shit since you're a bit rusty from not doing any live drawing for a few months. But they are often much better than the ones I did before.

Perhaps a pause can be good to let things settle a bit from time to time.

>>2869817
Why would you shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane?
These are difficult questions

fucked up the knee

>>2868771
And another...

Critique is welcome

>>2870078
>>2868771
>>2868552
I dig 'em. What's the size of your book? Maybe play with some cross hatching to push volume and depth further?

>>2870057
Aside from the chicken scratching that looks really good anon, feels dynamic.

>>2870087
The pages are ~A5.

I liked the flow that came when I only shaded in one direction.
But I'll get to cross hatching.

>>2870087
this is the absolute worst tutorial image I've ever seen

So, how does it look?

>>2870078
also, nice

First finished digital work ever, took about an hour. What do you think?

>>2870213
Buttplug?

>>2870211
I like it.
But I would like some darker and heavier shadows to emphasise the shapes more. Because as it is some areas feel fairly flat. Especially around the head.

>>2870224
ye i didnt shate there yet, i just finally came up with the shapes for it and shaded the mask. this angle was a bitch and im still not sure if its right- hence the post
lineweight will be emphasised more, its about 50% done
thanks mate

>>2870217
No, it started out as a bone but then evolved to large futuristic glasses. Like?

>>2870230
I really like the the idea (reminds me a lot of what I used to draw a couple of years ago), and the shading for the body is pretty good (it just could be a bit more contrast)

But that head, dude. Especially the back of it.
It might be difficult if you've already began to ink it, but if I were you I'd try to re-do it pretty much from scratch. Especially the back of the head. And I do think it's salvageable if you're clever about it.
Because right now it looks like some weird alien cocoon.

>>2870242
>Like?
Not really. It's lazy and you can't see what it's supposed to be.
0/10 Apply yourself.

>>2870249
Why is it lazy? Its my first finished digi work, first time posting here too. If anything, your crit is lazy.

>>2870247
you mean the shape of the head? shiet man i drew it so many times.. this one felt the best of em all. could i trouble you for a quick redline

>>2870250
It's lazy because you didn't put down an effort. And even if it's the first thing you did in digital just to see what that's about, it's not worth criticising because there's nothing there to criticise.

Read the sticky and gain a better idea about some of the basics of drawing. When you've got something worth criticising I'd love to do it.

makin some backgrounds for a cartoon

>>2870262
here's the last finished one

>>2870260
shit nigga are you always like this? Real crits please. I lit it from a constant light source, added shadows, fresnel, people in foreground, rotated my brush strokes. Shit was hard as fuck. You suck at reviewing, you should read the sticky you idiot

>>2870266
If you can't handle being criticised then you shouldn't post your art here anon. This guys critic is right

>>2870266
different anon. but what you did could easily be recreated in less than 5 minutes.
Thing is we as the viewer cannot tell what your object is. sure we can see that there's small people in the perspective. but that doesn't tell us much besides a size comparison.

>>2870272
i can handle criticicm, thats why i posted itt. When I get "0/10, no effort, kys" replies thats when I tell you faggots to learn to crit. There exists people who cant provide real, valid constructive criticism.

Tl;dr - constructive crits only, idiot

>>2870279
>but what you did could easily be recreated in less than 5 minutes.
it was my first time drawing in PS

>Thing is we as the viewer cannot tell what your object is
not knowing what something is or its purpose doesnt make it bad. If you look through books of real objects I'm sure theres plenty of things you couldnt identify.

I purposefully went for a sci fi theme

>>2870257
Sorry for the shitty redline.

But I hope you see my point. All you really have to do is to fix the area where the skull and neck goes together on the back of the head.
Or, if you can't figure out a good way to do that, perhaps you can hide it? Is it possible to turn the weird back part into some kind of helmet?

>>2870282
>When I get "0/10, no effort, kys"
Fuck you man. I was trying to be encouraging even when your art is unironically worse than fucking Chris Chan.

The 'thing' you made has no substance that makes it possible to give it any critique. Read the sticky and learn construction and we'll try this again in 5 years.

>>2870298
no fuck YOU, man. Learn to give constructive crits you lazy fuck.

>>2870288
>it was my first time drawing in PS
So, what do you want? A pat on the head or a softball critique? I suspect both.

>sci fi is meant to be unrecognizable
oh, you're trolling. Or don't know what shape language is.

>>2870288
alright. well, start simple. stick with hard/soft rounds while you're learning no need to get crazy at the start. (rotating brushes etc) you can do a lot with just the basics.
pick up perspective drawing and start learning basic rendering/construction etc.

this added stuff didnt take too much time. keep working at it

>>2870282
But that was constructive, you fuckass.
Honestly, he wasn't even rude. I couldn't for the life of me to understand what was going on in that picture

>>2870291
i see! i can work around it, cheers mate!

>>2870330
No problem

>>2870323
i figured he gotta be trolling and ignored him. cmon, it didnt take him an hour, those freaking anal beeds. he did it in five min to troll ya obv. any kind of mods here

>>2870309
ty for this crit. This is how crits should be done.

>>2870323
>>2870337
>you

finished this. these stretched canvases are so fun to paint on. so much better texturally than pre stretched ones.

>>2870262
>>2870265
cool color, texture, lines

>>2869023
Don't stop doing your shit mate. No matter how much hate and insecurity /ic/ projects onto you. I have seen your work before and I am really in love with your coloring and surreal settings. The bright saturated contrasts etc. I have a more realistic grounded aproach and really know my fundamentals and I love this shit. I would love to see your development through the years. Fuck the hate bro. You've got potential and a good eye for this for sure.

>>2869386
I agree. You're an idiot.

>>2870412
My dude, Brian, you gotta find another subject, something contemporary, something that interests you, that will say something to the viewer. Reproducing these still lifes over and over again (not exactly reproducing over but food, material, and vases) isn't saying anything.

I suggest looking into one of your interests outside of visual arts, be it political, psychological, or environmental it's worth looking into, explore some concepts beyond what is in front of you, literally.

You're already very skilled in painting, so I don't think it should be an issue to figure something else out. The only thing I see being an issue is conceptualizing ideas. The more you work on conceptualizing, the better you'll get.

This painting is beautiful, but I'd hate to see talent like this going towards painting bread forever. Just consider what I've said, don't take it as an insult. :)

>>2870412
why does everything you paint look the same?

warmup

>>2870412
I like this a lot, good job!

>>2870262
>>2870265
good shit as usual mob.

doodles from tonight

doodle from tonight

>>2870943
slow down boss

>>2870098
thanks, though I was planning to clean it up

What should I fix?

Started this one today, I haven't gone all the way with a painting before but its always been my dream to work with card games and or get into game art so I'm gonna do it for the MAGIC BOYs

>>2871715
practice alot more form/value and structure, also its too strongly contrasted and needs alot more rendering between midtones and shadow, also complimentary loomis meme

Gestures for today, glad my community has stuff like this!

>>2869811
I come back to /ic/ after a few months away and I find out someone stole my line...

Keep up the good work, though, someone needs to hate Brian while I am gone

>>2870262
>>2870265
>dat mood
muh diiiiick

>>2870444
this.
for the love of god expand your horizons

Some Concepts for a future animation

>>2870887
Practice more, this sucks

I'm messing around with minimalist styles. I'm not sure how i'm doing. Is this to detailed? Not detailed enough? Is it at all appealing?

>>2872394
Theyre cute to say the least

>>2871719
You need to work on composition.
Avoid having the horizon line split the canvas in equal halves, that cancel each other out.
You should lead the eye by creating asymmetry and hierarchy in the composition. Your major shapes are nearly identical in size. The wall stops right in in the middle of the picture, and suggests a centered plumb line. This along with the centered horizon line forms almost a crosshair dead smack in the middle of your picture. It's a very efficient way of killing any dynamism.

You should be mindful of your value grouping too.

i need help with frog texture. i dont really do digital art.

>>2870999
might be as far as I take it

>>2870211
bad, dont repost

>>2870887
Very nice!

Trying to work on my coloring with colored pencils.

feels bad man, had to rush the feet because I was on the train and I'm not that comfy drawing outside of home or in public outside of coffee shops

>>2872905
Another one of mine, I'm sort of conflicted between these two styles; the pen one usually ends up worse for me but it's generally more fun to do, whereas using pencil is what I've done more of but feels too bland for me.

>>2871776
Damn, that's a lot. Thanks for your help, I will be busy then.

>>2872905
>>2872910
You rushed the whole drawings, haven't you?
More seriously, if you are not baiting go to /beg/.

Just kinda sketching stuff. Tryna get these shoulders right, but I cant seem to understand the arms.
>>inb4 study more/loomis/etc...
Currently working on it, this is me time work.

>>2872948

Hands are doing this, not tryna strangle herself

>>2872948
Try to pose your hands like she's doing and see how painful it is.

Push her elbows more to the front, she's holding them way back.

>>2872996

Ironically just tried doing that. Thanks for the tip.

How can I improve this?

>>2873013

Deepen the contrast of the shadow values, maybe make that nose not paper thin. Hairline needs a more robust definition, it looks like there's no hair past the first few strands being pulled back. There's muscles in the neck you forgot to render.

>>2873013
Why the cross anon

>>2873028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB_U5R2_FUs

Ain't it weird that people are so ugly when skulls are so cool?

Also, today's work: skulls

>>2873026
tried to follow your advice but somehow... it got worse. I think she looks older now.

>>2870930
:ok_hand:

some crit on this? just started painting.

>>2873367
>just
>just
>just

Really now, anon.

>>2868677
this is kinda what faces look like on acid, so if that was what you were going for. Great!

>>2873372
?

I have little to no skill at art as of yet, feel free to shit on this, but if you want to constructively criticize that'd be cool. Original image credit to toxicness, this is my take on it.

>>2873367
atleast make something oc instead of copying

>>2873372
shut the fuck up noob

please help.
I've drawn hair on her over and over,
Ive redrawn her face from bitchy to pin up
I don't know what pretty looks like.
I need her to look hot and pin-up-ish.

>>2873397
Hard to say without seeing what kinds of hair you've tried.

>>2868181
she looks too young to be smoking.

>>2869861
>>2869893
Damn brother, this is so good.

Could pass for concept art shit.

Draw a body now yo.

>>2873417
>concept art shit.
kys

>>2873398
dis??
I went back to my first one.... I want her hair to be up but I just...can't.

ugh, fuck me runnin i am DYIN u guyz
this shit was due YESTERDAY

drawing this angle is frustrating

>>2868441
Why don't you just tell him to go do Reilly?

>>2868279
Hey, Reilly abstraction would help you fix your issues also looking at rl women a lot if you're going to be drawing grills. Like magazines and stuff. If you're still having trouble with heads you can go look up "Huston head construction" on youtube, it has head construction drills towards the end, too so you can practice what you learn. 10-50 head constructions a day for a while will fix you up quick. And I mean ugly, quick sketches, not pretty ones.

Calling this done, not really trying to make an exact copy.

>>2873637
>... And then she farts!

>when you spend a bunch of time on drawing something in the middle of the night and think "omg, I'm so fucking good KJG and Michelangelo can go suck my dick" and then wake up the day after to see that it's shit

>>2870412
I'm starting to get sick of your bread bullshit. The same thing over and over.

>>2873664

Das breddy gud, anon!

>>2869149
lmao. terrible. you probabaly think your so good too.

>>2869149
Reminds me of Ald'ruhn

>>2874038
Looks really good! I would say make the shading behind her boob a little lighter and not so dark - makes it stand out and not look part of her body.

Spoopy time

background for a short film i think it looks kinda boring or like too much texture

>>2874038
Weird proportions and inconsistent values. Pay closer attention to your ref.

>>2873664
not bad, you are not seeing the whole picture though. Notice how the faces look very different thumbnail wise. Try flipping the canvas occasionally and pick less detailed models so you don't get lost in them, and don't zoom in

>>2874090
Could you do a draw over?

>>2873777
>>2874092
Thanks, anons
>Try flipping the canvas occasionally
I was even trying flipping it upside down and I still couldn't get it right, I also tried zooming out far and making changes, but I kept goofing up still. I think my main goof was that I tried to add textures before establishing the form and values so I kept messing up after that
>and pick less detailed models so you don't get lost in them, and don't zoom in
thank you, will definitely make this my priority in my studies from now on.

I was going to draw my apartment, but it got a bit crowded...

>>2874120
>>2874038
I mean I don't have the ref you are using (I assume, since you called it a study) so I just made this up. But here is a quick attempt at unifying the values and colours and changing the proportions a bit. I feel the biggest issue is you made the head too small, and the values in the shadows and halftones are inconsistent.

>>2874183
LOL

>>2874183
How did it make it so much better

>>2874203
dude they're both shit

>>2874183
Thanks anon, appreciate it

>>2874038
fixing

>>2873826
lol relax

some portraits

Very rough but if you have any remarks please let me know

>>2868677
I think we should be able to see the contour of the eye socket in the far eye, that would help to better define the contour of her whole face on that side

>>2874466
firez what the fuck is that sideboob? i mena come on dude are you even trying anymore?

Working on this one tonight, sword was a flat toss in

>>2874477
Add not him but if you add some fat tissue it looks similar to pic related also he said it is very rough like it is understandable he wants some feedback before continuing

>>2874484
How did you create that cloudy effect? Airbrush?

Finally found some good paper that allows me to do what I want with Copics. Perspective and proportions are goofed, but I wanted to get the idea down before I got bored of it. You know how it is.

>>2874050
Is that a life drawing or ref?

>>2874200
>>2874206

Are you implying he didn't make it better, you retards? Really look at the original.

>>2874549
moebius ripoff

>>2874503
chalky with minimal strokes

>>2874565
kek, not ripoff, direct reference. I wanted to practice the way he shades/hatches, and also test how well the dip pen nib I have can replicate moebius-esq lines, and how well the paper can hold them. Moebius is a big inspo for me, I want to steal his secrets. I guess I should've mentioned this.

>>2874562
im not implying anything? i JUST said they're both shit attempts

>>2874658
Let's see your attempt

離れKuragara

>>2874678
more like KURASHIT

>>2874549
I like this a lot!

You pointed out a lot of the issues by yourself which is excellent! One thing I might add is the girl looks really stiff. Now I don't know if she is anatomically strained by the thing coming out of her mouth, but if I think if you drew her strained in some way, even subtly (arching back and some expression on her face) she might seem a bit more "fluid".

The yellow creature is very charming!

It would be cool to see this drawing redone if you happen to want to explore it again.

Got anymore works like this? Would love to see them.

>Worked all day for 4 days
It's not like I wanted to draw or anything anyways

>>2874678
I like it, has an edge to it.

>>2874674
>>2874347
>>2874183
keep it simple stupid

I drew FDR last night, ink... From that photo where hes sitting next to Churchill and Stalin

>>2874779
Did someone really commission a wolf? How does that even work? I've never heard of that before. Do you draw animals for a living or something?

>>2874780
Lots of people have wolf OCs on the internet, someone on fb asked for this wolf with scars on the nose.

>>2874779
My only comments would be that wolves generally have less stop, legs for days (longer and leaner looking, can be achieved just by making the legs slimmer) and tend to be more cowhocked. Otherwise, this looks pretty good. You're better at fur than I will ever be.

>>2874803
>animal anatomy critique on /ic/
Yay, thanks man. Your kind are few and far between and I really needed an outside perspective on it. I'm not continuing on it tonight but i'll take those pointers into account tomorrow.

>>2869615
Hi anon, here's my take on it, broken up into stages. Stage 1 is changes to the overall proportions, stage 2 is a rendering base and stage 3 is a lighting suggestion. If you like it and have any questions let me know.

>>2874978
Wow! Not the guy you're replying to, but thanks for posting this and a breakdown. How can I get such nice forms and brush work? Do you always go for a indirect/overcast lighting first?

>>2874991
I was using pic related brushes, the bottom one literally just for the bground in stage 3, painting on an ipad in procreate. If you're asking for methods of developing the skill or rendering forms, I'd recommend painting plaster casts from life, be it digitally or traditionally ( digital saves time and money, traditional is harder, moore fun and more satisfying) and trying out different lighting setups on them with varying ligh direction and intensity. Also the techniques used and described by Scott Robertson were helpful to me personally. Brushes are not important to me for modelling forms, but very useful for realistic rendering of textures and variations on surfaces, so there was no need for fancy brushes here.

Forgot pic

>>2875000
Do you have a site or blog? How long did the paint over take?

>>2874991
>Do you always go for a indirect/overcast lighting first?

Not always, and I wouldn't recommend doing anything always, but it's often a useful approach to isolate problems rather than trying to tackle multiple variables at once, especially if you wanna try different versions or if the subject is complex.

>>2875000
>>2875001
Taking notes of all of this, thank you. I meant brush work as in I like how you didn't blend in the lines you painted together, especially in the pecs, it looks really pleasing, what made you decide not to do so?

>>2875004
Thanks again for taking the time to help.

>>2875006
Mainly the fact that blending would cost the time I could spend making the next brush stroke lol. I wasn't going for any particular look, just trying to get it done quickly. The paintover took about 1.5 h.

>>2875003
No website to call my own, but i post on dA and artstation. I'd rather remain an Anon tho

>>2875014
>Mainly the fact that blending would cost the time I could spend making the next brush stroke lol.
Oh, thank you for clearing that up kek

>>2870265
200% jelly this is sick

>>2875011
It was my privilege

>>2874779
I second the anatomy stuff >>2874803 said
I would also add that the pasterns look too weak, especially when taking the perspective into consideration.

I mainly had issues with the fur and the overall perspective. The fur looks like fur you might paint on a side view. I can see a bit of dimension on the scruff, but the rest of the neck looks especially flat.
About the perspective, I couldn't really figure it out. I don't expect you to change it this late into the work either. I was just trying to figure it out for fun. I might get my dog to model out the pose for future reference, since I also had difficulties with this angle in the past.

>>2875108
perspective is a little different of course
hopefully this helps

>>2875113
fucking furfags

>>2875108
Thanks for the crit.
About the perspective, his body is supposed to be half-turned so his head is in side view (actually a little past side view) and his rear is in 3/4. That may be why you're confused.

Trying to redraw something I did a couple of years ago.

>>2874779
>>2875236
Currently rear is too square-on to the viewer. You need to rotate it more to the side.

I redid my redline, with additional random notes on what makes wolves look wolfy.

Finished lineart of my first commisioned portrait but I'm afraid to fuck it up when coloring it, anyways, some crit is welcome.

>>2875274
kind of sketchy

clean your lines

>>2875262
That bottom blueline is definitely what I was going for in terms of perspective. I'll erase some big parts today and re-do them. A lot of the stuff like the precaudal and v-nape were already drawn so i'll probably leave them the same. Gonna have a harder look at some references for the fur direction also. Client probably won't mind.
I really appreciate the redlines!

Ok, does this look better? (I am the original artist not redliner). I went constructional as hell because the legs were giving me shit. Also made some changes I was concerned about like the bulge of the back/longissimus muscle area
>tfw the damaged socket of my external hard drive decided to stop communicating between drawing and posting this pic so now I have to work on this single file on a USB

>>2874556
Life drawing

>>2868158
You finished? Are you sure?

>>2874176
there are some parts I dont know what is going on but otherwise I really dig this. I like the 3-boobed bitch's body, strange face tho

>>2874183
the head is small for sure but the other things you fucked up

>>2874368
thats sweet. Put the light from the face on the armor too

>>2874394
are those one person? too many random lines. its messed up. try doing more clean hetching

>>2874466
her forearm is longer and her arm short

>>2874678
wut

>>2874753
you used one color for the whole body

>>2874779
thats good fur. I think we see his ass too much

>>2875246
nice idea

>>2875274
neck is strange, her nose is more to the left than it should be. Flip that bitch and check it.

>>2875379
looks better

chop shop

>>2875436
rip fur

>>2875459
shrug

>>2875579
looking much better

>>2875579
How much are you getting paid for this, if you don't mind me asking?

>>2875599
$30

>>2874050
thanks Mr.Skelly

Does anyone know the best way to exaggerate figures in perspective? I made this, but it's such a long shot from what I wanted to it to be.

I'm posting the gesture after this.

>>2875684
This is what it was supposed to look like, but the minute I applied any logical drawing to it it ruined the composition

>>2874978
Sheeeeet, thanks, man! Incredibly helpful, I will study the fuck out of this!

>>2875684
I don't you want to fix this kind of pose, anon. The design looks good, but the composition is terrible, so the piece is already bad. It's just not interesting enough. Unless you wanted to do one of those intense like fisheyed lens scenes where you see the character intensively pulling back their arm with crazy VFX wind around them like they're going to swing and cut a mountain down.

>>2875689
That's exactly what I wanted to do.

>>2875689
I think I just realized how to do it.

I have to really think about box distortion in perspective to pull it off, and I have to stay true to my original gesture and get the proportions right the first time, or else I'm wasting my time.

I'm still curious if it's better to design a figure relative to the camera, or if it's better to design a figure relative to a box in perspective.

Does anybody know?

>>2875694
I've realized I'll never be able to really draw what I want to draw until I can properly distort my designs in perspective, and it's likely the same for everyone here.

Is there a good tutorial on this?

>>2875694
Perspective and Camera are basically the same thing, anon. You keep talking about a box for some reason, like you learned from Krenz or something. All you really need to do is play with proportions and foreshortening as well as making the sword and the arm wielding it the focus of the piece. A box distorts the sharper the box's edges converge towards the VPs if you wanted to know that. I honestly have not drawn this pose myself nor do I have a reference apparently aside from a visual one, but basically play with it.

Starting a discord server for this. There used to be a few skype ones with overlap of content but might as well use the channels and controls discord has.

Please add to the OP next time around. The server is for you guys; suggest away for any changes, things to add, so on.
INVITE: https://discord.gg/tCycdqK

>>2875711

I figure objective foreshortening isn't the key to making something look good.

I guess this what people were talking about when they said you don't have to adhere completely to perspective, and it's ok to break it where necessary.

Thanks man.

>>2875709
That's good, anon. That's the first step to understanding how to properly foreshorten your designs in accordance to perspective. It's actually not as difficult as it seems when you realize again that you have always seen the world with foreshortening. Sure, it's not as easy with an original design, but you can at least use a base for example a figure, and see how your design will fit on the figure at a certain angle. It requires a bit of thinking, but it's doable. The result is also very satisfying. There are probably tutorials for this, however, you can't always be looking for those quick shortcuts. Best thing an artist can do is draw.

Late night thumbs

Hey guys, anything looks off so far? Left or right?

I've been struggling with the head the entire day and can't see straight anymore.

quik study ayyyyy

>>2875917
You need to think about how the balance works. The guy looks like he would topple over trying to stand on those legs/two little dog nail things which also look like they are in your guys face but you flipped it upside down so it's not teeth? so what is it? what is its purpose and how does the head even connect to the neck. next time before you even attempt to draw out the muscles and other details, make a silhouette, have a plan for what you are doing. because right now, its like a man kangaroo rat bug thing without actually applying any of what happens in real life to make those things work: do your research first. so what i suggest, is take one of your silhouettes on the right, base it off a real life bug and take the shapes/think about how a bug would be able to work combined with a human and start from there.
as to your actual drawing, you completely lack any sort of shape design or cohesion, other than its vaguely scifi inspired and has muscles there is no sort of "flow" or emphasis on certain parts/focal point area. attached is a starcraft protoss concept art, although it is static it looks kind of like what you are doing, and it doesn't look like it will fall over on its face if it tries to walk. anyway good luck, let me know if you need clarification

>>2875951
The head is the part I'm currently working on, the two segments were teeth but then I realized the head shape could also work upside down.
The legs were supposed to work like pic related, for added agility.

I started with a skeleton and added muscles on top, but you're right, I got caught up in detail wayyy too soon. I'll start working from a silhouette to make sure it reads.

Thanks for your time.

Just started this. How's it going?

>>2876176
already perfect, made me smirk in 0.1 seconds.

My latest two. I think of myself as a beginner however I've been told I'm definitely not. No idea.

>>2876285
Sorry I meant to post this

>>2876288
Another one of mine I did a while ago

Destroy me /ic/

>>2876317
People don't look like this, nor do they have massive thick lines around them. I can't take any drawing seriously that looks like this. Sorry. Try looking at Loomis and actually drawing people instead of cartoons.

>>2876320
There's nothing wrong with drawing cartoons.
I'm not sure if this is bait or not, but just in case.

>>2876330
Cartoons are objectively worse. It takes objectively less skill to draw cartoons.

>>2876317
Looks good for a comic book.
Bad if you are trying to draw from life.

>>2876334
Exactly my point. It's good for a comic, but if you want to be taken seriously and be good at art, stop drawing this fake shit.

>>2876317
Sorry for the quite terrible redline.
But the face is not very symmetrical. Especially around the jaw/mouth/chin. And the chin is really tiny, which I doubt is by design.

>>2871091
You're giving me Phil ptsd fuck i hate that guy

>>2871955
Who does he have a fixation on?

>>2876377
Check his blog

>>2876378
How to check his blog? What do I search for? "Brian"?

>>2876374
thank you!
I'm having trouble with low angles the most, so this is really appreciated.

>>2876382
Brian Comforti
Not sure which is his main, but instagram has it laid out easily.

>>2875951
I like how it's pretty much a man with a broken tibia/fibula bone.

What blending mode do you use to color a grayscale? Hard light, maybe?
"Color" is pretty shit, as it doesn't take into account the natural value difference between different hues (e.g. blue/yellow).

>>2876490
Overlay ftw.

>>2876490
here anon try this.
Ctrl+U and Ctrl+B are your friends in greyscale coloring. also soft round with the settings posted in the picture set to overlay and you need to be on the same layer of your greyscale.

Good evening, please destroy me before I sloppily try to do line work with this.

>>2876176
worked a few minutes more on it

>>2876708
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>2872032
more drawin, here's a wip

Gotta fix the perspective of the car badly.

Critiques pls?

>>2876768
Could use a bit more light contrast on the left. It's hard to look at as in it strains my eyes to look.

>>2876769
i like the textures you got going on

i drew tom selleck

>>2869861
add more highlighting and shadows. dont be afraid to use white. I added some white in the highest places( sorry its so small) but it makes the face more shiny adding to the realistic look. The best advice i can give to make pieces more realistic is strong lights and darks.

>>2875246
This makes for great value practice but I'm honestly scared of going any further because I'm not confident in my ability to detail the human body ever since I started studying again.

Would it be best to add a little touches to the bottle and values on the fetus and continue studying? I've finished maybe 2 other drawings since I stopped to make some fun pieces.

>>2873013
adding depth with shading and highlightig. It makes a world of difference.

feelin a little discouraged. spend like 9 hours on this and it got rejected. Working for someone who needs a design and I realize they probably won't accept any illustrations so I'm out of a big commission...

>>2876827
Explain

>>2876864
Maybe make it so she's looking at the viewer instead.
It also looks like her wrist doesn't exist
Also it looks like you got really lazy at her calves and shoes.
good luck anon.
Nice burger though

>>2876868
not same anon but did an edit for u

>>2876864
the dude is really spot on but the lady looks weird, pinups usually exaggerate the softness of a girls features, i'll do a blended paintover and fix some things to show you what i mean. obviously since this finished you probably won't go back to it and move on to bigger and better things, but it may help for the future

>>2876922
you got it spot on, the client asked me to redraw her face so it was looking at us and said the shoes looked weird, yeah I did get pretty lazy on those parts. I even just took pictures of my shoes and painted over them (bad idea but I was running out of time)
>>2876929
If you did a paintover I'd really appreciate it, I'd really like to get better in this style and am not sure how. Thanks Anon.

>>2876288
not sure who told you that you aren't a beginner - maybe in comparison to ic you aren't because you at least aren't symbol drawing . but anyway, when posting your pictures there's no need to frame it like that, its distracting. next time make sure the lighting is good/scan it so you can show your full value range (white-black) not like sepia-dark brown? the background should be white if your paper is white.
when you draw, since you are drawing in pencil and usually people want to get to realism/believability that way and everyone has seen those amazing russian academic drawings, the shortcomings become obvious - you are copying photo of benjamin cumberbatch i assume, and it doesn't look like him at all. it lacks appeal because of the emphasis on details where they don't need to be: like the neck folds make him look like a turtle, we focus on the shadow area of the coat and the individual shapes/patterns of the coat rather than it just saying "this is a coat." it looks like the neck/head dont connect at all and that there is no real depth to your drawing. try not smudging next time and thinking about directional pencil strokes to show planes -> how would i draw in the strokes of the background so that the figure pops out?
for your oct anatomy final: you are missing a ton of midtones that would make it smooth/every shadow value is the same. learn about how to compare values and blend and planes and shit because its way too graphic. same thing about smudging and emphasis as well, find out which parts to emphasize, and the edges help make depth as well (why would both hands be blurred out especially, hes leaning down on the hand and pressing weight, the other hand reaching out could be a focal point.) and dont take pics with eraser shavings.
anyway, you don't need to render everything you draw, just draw a lot, construct some shit/figures, when you do render make sure to really be careful. i like your dog drawing tho its cute.

>>2876943
i'm afraid i might have made it /too/ blended, since you clearly have a lineart thing goign on. i hope this kinda helps tho

today's work. from life any crits welcome.

>>2870412
>tfw brian is gonna be the new van gogh of art and you will be one of the cunts who never understand art and make gün of him

practicing with limited values. critique?

Abstracty ths morning

WIP Any suggestions? I've been told that the head is too small for this style and doesn't correlate with the body

>>2868677
her head looks a little big for her body, downsize a bit

Tear me apart, lads.
before anyone else does
>... and then she farts!

>>2870213
not really sure what this is supposed to be, anon
also, i see you copy-and-pasted those little dudes standing around whatever object that is. Lazy/10

>>2870288
>"I-It was my first time drawing in Photoshop! It was r-really hard and stuff! Give me good, detailed critiques for drawing something that isn't even detailed enough not to be distinguished from a butt-plug!"

Shut up and go practice more, maybe do some life-drawing or whatever.

>>2873756
landscapes soon. its just gotta warm up. the whole neighborhood smells like cow shit cause the farms are spreading manure so spring must be coming

>>2877475
you should have tried with something more cartoony

Any thoughts?Also I'm a scrub when it comes to digital painting

>>2877516
Besides that "qt sad grl with alien seized eyes crying" hardly is the most original of drawing subjects:

The flower things are made in such a different style than the face that it honestly looks plain bad and sloppy. But I think it's easily fixable if you go over the flowers and fix/redo them in a more similar style as the face, since that's far more interesting.

>>2877629

Thanks for the feedback! And wow, yeah, I have no idea why I didnt think about the waay oversized eyes before you mentioned it.But yeah, nothing that will be released,its so far away from the things I normally do.

>>2877660
>I have no idea why I didnt think about the waay oversized eyes
All newbies do this so don't worry about it. Just keep it in mind and try not to do it again.

Also, pic related is a great rule of thumb to keep it somewhat accurate with minimum effort.

>>2877665
Never really went for a realistic feel, but yeah I take your point.

>>2870262
>>2870265
Who are you and where can I follow desu

>>2877259
why do I like this a lot

>>2877501
Yeah, thinking about it, I really should have, thanks.