/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Well I'm sorry but i didn't see this thread when i made mine. should i let my thread die and start posting in hear? it said i cant delete my thread because its to old.

still wanna render this a bit more
she looks pretty creepy

>>2834925
i agree

>>2834924
im really sorry in case i didnt see it, but ive been scrolling through pages without seeing one. the reason i was holding off on making one was precisely because i was worried multiple people would get the idea. either way, do what you prefer.

>>2834925
She has a five o clock shadow.

>>2834928
this one looks more official ill post a few here. well tell me what ya think

am I good

here's more

i must inform you it's the time of day in which the sun reaches it's apex in the sky.

>>2834951
no

>>2834951
>>2834952
At least contain these abominations to the lewd thread, jesus christ

>>2834925
I really love your concept. The mid tone I think is the right one but the shadows are too gray or that is what I think.

>>2835033

I don't usually like stylized art, but this tends to catch my eye. They are not overly pornographic and I think the exaggerated figures are awesome.

>>2834925
It'd sexy creepy. Work dat shit yo.

>>2834951
This reminds me of Darias younger sister with pink hair tho.

It's not exactly high art but I thought I might share these two scratchings I did into my lab notebooks. They were pretty fun to make. As usual, criticisms and complaints are welcome in case I do more in the future.

1/2 the planet eater

2/2 the lost astronaut

Thank you.

>>2835096
you are wrong.

>>2835171
No, I'm not

>>2835174
its ok to be wrong anon.
in this case you are wrong.
we still love you.

first person to tell me what to draw and i will do it.

i work in the film/game industry as a junior artist.

>>2835210
BEAR CAVALRY

>>2835210
How many years you been at it? How did you get in?

I don't have any specific questions aside from what to add to make this whole thing less dull

>>2835329
i just dont get the image. lacks story, dont know why shes balancing that on her hand and looking at it...

>>2835350
>lacks story
It's a picture, not a book lmao

>>2835350
She's training to become the rapiest wizard.

>>2835210
Draw the most beautiful thing you can think of, whatever that may be for you

>>2835210
A cool mercenary with a rifle and a bloody knife

Is it bad not to use references or is it better to learn from mistakes? I've never used a reference.

>>2835479
Wrong pic.

>>2834925
Shaved beard lmao

>>2835429
fag

Teehee

>>2835479
>>2835484
>>2835509
/beg/

>>2835510
>>2835509

What's bad about this?

>>2835508
A fag is the most beautiful thing you can think of? I know you love cocks anon but that's taking it a little far, there must be something else. Maybe balls?

Updated the cottage a little more.

>>2835530
Also just finished color keying this background.

>>2835530
>>2835531
this is really nice!

Shoulders are a bitch

>>2835350
Read the fucking novel.
It all explained there. Yes, even floating sword.

>>2835350
I've seen this 'story' thing a few times on here, can someone explain this to me
Like do I need to convey a certain thing in a picture otherwise it's bad?

>>2835766
Nah
It's mostly about the feeling of the image, the feel that it's part of something bigger, like that the character isn't just some random generic fantasy hero you just made up but he's got a story behind him, and the moment you're showing is meaningful in some way.

Like this

>>2835396
>>2835722
>>2835766

To be honest, I agree with >>2835350. I could have added some more interaction or some subtler clues as to what she's doing or whatever.

>>2835530
That's cute

CUTE

Any ideas on how to texture the dress or improve the pose?

>>2835889
Forward facing leg should be much straighter. Right now the whole pose is crouched a little down.

>>2835889
Learn more. You obviously don't know what you want from this. Look at refs of similar poses, look for clothing on google.


Many people can tell you how to "fix" it, but that's their artistic mind, not yours and this is a stylized peice!

I usually lurk and crit only

>>2835971
Just wow, I like your style.

>>2835971
its solid but too generic to be honest with you famine

>>2835530
I want to visit the Carrot Cottage :^(

>>2835889
fix her face, anon

>>2834918
Christ, why are my environments so cancerous?

worked this one today it's my first vehicle

meh okay

>>2836113

you are building from imagination rather than building a strong visual library

>>2836117
H-how do I fix that

>>2836107

woah, holy shit that makes her so much more attractive, lol. She was supposed to be a characature of me, and my face is rather wide so i made her face huge, but to a ridiculous extent- yours looks way better

>>2835922
I ended up leaving that leg as it was, I see what you're saying, however i wanted there to be a certain sense of movement, as if she was walking. Yours probably would have looked better though

>>2835923
Thanks, anon. I'm doing a lot of lif drawing classes and trying to learn in college (animation) more about poses and drawing testures and shit, and they always say use reference, why I didn't is beyond me.

>>2835971
Nice! NPC concept?

>>2836137
I gave you free plastic surgery. You're pretty now

>>2836115
Looks like you gave up on the feet

>>2836146
thank u anon! <3

>>2835980
Not him
Is it that generic? That is the style I'd like to reach one day not far off

>>2836113
First one is the best one in my opinion.
Last one is the most fucked so I tried to fix it.
Learn how to make an atmosphere with colours.These pictures need source of light to make them more interesing to look at, because now it looks boring.

>>2836115
Not bad but I think the calves are too thin for the thighs, and you better draw the feet right the fuck now, just cutting them off like that is unforgivable
Besides she has hooves I think, so it's even easier

>>2836164
Could you point me to some tutorial/guide on it? I'm failing miserably

>>2836174
Watch KNKL on yt. He's pretty good on explaining basic colour theory. Try to watch Trent Kaniuga. He's mostly painting characters, but have some nice sceneries too, also he talks very nicley. If you have more time watch FZDSCHOOL. And sinix is pretty good so you can also look at his video

>>2836113
Do some plein air, it will help you alot.

>>2835975
Aw thanks!

>>2835980
Well, I wasn't trying to be super original, just painting a bunch of people in a similar setting for practice and fun. Thanks though!

>>2836143
Thanks! Yeah, NPC-ish, just regular people, thinking of different jobs in the town/city and what they would look like.

I did two scholars before these, pic related. When done with the farmers I'll do a priest/wizard, a slut/whore, some soldiers, just anything that comes to my mind until I'm bored with them. I realized very late that the male scholar is a bit short and most of my male characters are! Gotta work on that.

>>2835530
>>2835531
I like these anon!
The colors in the second are really good!
>>2835329
That's nice! I would myself have her head bend a little less and make her eyes a bit less open. It is more difficult to paint it like that but will look more natural.

>>2836208
These look great too, I'm looking forward to you posting more.

>>2836115
holy kek those legs

>>2836164
i'd work with greyscale. those color choices still arent great and that light source is pretty odd.
>>2836174
james gurney's book on color and light. and watch the dude do some landscape work. its great

>>2836114
I like it, anon :)

>>2836118
i say study from photos and from real life. the key is in understand what the REAL colors of things are, not just what you perceive. its difficult, but the results are worth it if you really work hard

>>2836231
Nice anon. Good you came to make better version of it. I admit I fucked up it a bit.

>>2835174
yes you are

>>2836262
i did more. here ya go lol

>>2836114
Good use of high saturation next to very low saturation.

>>2835766
Don't worry too much about what some random anons say. The image would work well as a book cover precisely because it puts questions into your mind. What is this place she is in? Why is the statue broken? How can she balance the sword like that? Makes you want to find out. This will be a good piece if you finish it.

As for making it less dull... more contrast and color. It's very brown and mid tone right now. Can be done by heightening the lighting. You've got warm light in the background on that statue, cool skylight spotlight on the character, can play up both of those and have them highlighting bits of the character. Michael Komarck and Brad Rigney play this sort of thing up a lot. Helps show the forms and also adds contrast. They also keep their backgrounds values really compressed and light compared to foreground figure to make figure pop out.

sloppy study

What do you think ?

>>2836274
I like the last one more

>>2836114
simple but very effective !

>>2836449
yeah, last 2 were the changes i made to the 1st. i got carried away and went greyscale to colors.

>>2836449
dope, finish it

>Slowly getting better at an hour a day
>It will take another 3+ years to get where I want to be

>>2836797
Damn, I hate picking apart my work after I "finish" it. I see so much stuff wrong here in perspective.

>>2836797
You're 10,000 years too soon to fight me, kid.

Been getting back into drawing lately and wanted you guys to judge how my manga style looks. The idea is to give people the impression a japanese dude made it an not some weeb like myself or marc krilley. tear me to shreds, guys. I'll need it...

>>2836894
2/2

>>2836896
Damn, I'm not cracking my neck to look at some shitty pictures.

You can get fucked if you're expecting me to do THAT.

>>2834918
How to speed up rendering guys?

Finally jumped into digital and got a tablet. Been going through ctrl-paint but is there a better way to do/learn rendering than push/pulling value blocks ? Just the torso took me hours to do.

Also, how do you guys study value? Is it just grinding greyscale still lives/objects until you 'just get it' by osmosis? I feel like its really easy to fall into turd-polishing mode and not actually learn like you do when practicing gesture poses, anatomy or perspective and KNOW how it should be.

>>2837070
You get faster the more you do it. It may be slow now, but the next time you do it, it'll be quicker because you already know how to take the steps to do rendering.

>turd-polishing mode
If you're stuck in this mind set, you won't make it through rendering. This is something that takes time and patience.

Practicing shading with graphite and charcoal.

I don't think it's too bad. But I think I fucked up on the nose a little bit, and there's something about the face that seems off, even though I can't put my finger on it.

>>2837070
Keep practicing anatomy for 10 hours everyday for 2 months. Eat breath shit anatomy

>>2837075
Symbol drawing the post. Imagine your drawing a 3D face as opposed to a 2D one. The face is too short, the nose and eyes are wrong and the shading is blotching instead of being smooth. Redraw it from scratch rather then salvage it

>>2835329
A splash of complimentary color would go well.
Say make the water more blue and have that color bounce onto her?

>>2835530
This is pleasant. What more could you want in it?
I guess if any thing some birds in the sky or some butterfly's would add some implied movement?

>>2835531
This one is begging to have a donkey drawn wagon with his merchant owner beside him on that path.

>>2836114
BIO CRAB WALKER
>>2837075
Reflect the image horizontally friend, i think you'll see whats up.


Working on this H E L P

Been practicing daily on perspective and form

>>2836894
>>2836896
my pictures flipped for some reason when I posted last time.

>>2837294

>>2836797
Don't use a pure white base as background, it will toy with eye and make you perceive all nearby tones darker than they actually are, and prevent you from making anything look bright.
The nose and mouth are pointing in a different direction than the rest of the head.

>>2834925
hons

ignore the signature. i might do another one of these to see if i can make a better version of this.

>>2837117
This piece lacks story.

>>2836434
lovely values
>>2837104
the guy kneeling down, what is he doing? he looks out of place, why not have him standing beside the other guy or sitting with his back facing the viewer. also, what is the main focus of this image? to me, there are way too many elements that stand out.
>>2837117
I like this anon, keep it up!

WIP painting. Trying not to over think it.

WIP painting. Trying not to over think it.

>>2838016
I actually like this.

>>2838016
i like the cat

>>2838042
the structure looks too modern. look at middle eastern architecture for reference. as it stands it looks like something out of Halo

>>2838024
I too enjoyed the feline's presence in the illustration. His dark coat with an otherworldly sheen a stark contrast to the dirty snow, his uneven eyes as if saying "are you serious?" when in fact it is the viewer who feels inclined to pose that question to the cat, for what is he doing huddling in a clump in the middle of nowhere?

>>2838024
>>2838019
Thanks!
>>2838066
>uneven eyes
oh geeze. this is why I post. I didn't even realize that they were so off lol. Thanks anon.

This painting is actually based off a picture my husband sent me of a stray cat that hangs out by his work. I enjoyed the general contrast (and I'm also obsessed with cats)

>>2838101
you cup is not centered in the saucer.

>>2837849
>too many elements that stand out
go on?
>that guy
Yeah I see what you mean. A mate wanted an illustration of two men around a fire in a canyon while the smoke of the fire became a sail ship. Ten points if you recognize the book.
Now that I remember the fire once I add that in the left side is going to be so busy compered to the right.
I should put them on that plane of rock on the right. Would give the work a better scale and more space for the men.

Wip
Tomorrow I'll keep going

>>2838105
Don't fix the eyes, it's what makes it interesting.

Bought a cheap tablet a week ago. I can only draw boring anime portraits cause I used to doodle them a lot.

Thoughts?

>>2838174
Pretty good, so now what?

>>2838177
I don't know. Guess I'll try to learn to draw actual poses.

>>2838180
That's a good idea, get to it.

In the mean time, learn how to draw eyes and hair and clothes, also maybe learn anatomy. Learn how to do facial features. Eyes are crooked and learn how to render. Kinda simplified. Learn about lighting and shadow. Maybe composition to spice things up.

quick doodle

>>2837104
>Reflect the image horizontally friend, i think you'll see whats up.

I just did, and I just did that trick on all the other things I've drawn this week. I want to walk off a cliff now.

Thanks for the top though! now I see what >>2837081 means about the facial deformities. Looks like I still got a bit to go before I get there.

>>2836115
whyd you chop off her feet

Like you could have just made her legs fade into the background but you showed stumps instead.

>>2836114
Really great, anon, I can see the manga influence all over hnnnnnng

>>2836115
kys

>>2838198
a+ spook-factor

>>2838198
i just relized this was a keyhole. make it darker.more obvious.

>>2838198
Expect to see this on /x/ sometime now in a spooky picture thread.

>>2838117
>go on?
the mountains in the distance, shiny spear, ship, cliff to the right, two guys and the rock structure to the left.
In my paint-over I tried to make these elements work together, I first lightened up the sky and distant mountains to separate them from midground. I then made the right cliff bigger and gave it a lighter value to separate it from the foreground I also changed the left rock structure because the blue in the corner was distracting. As for the ship, i positioned it in an open space since it looked cramped in that corner. I changed the direction of the spear because pointing directly at the image border will lead the eye out of the image, this also goes for all of those pointy mountains in the distance, they are all pointing in every direction which makes them extremely distacting. Also, I didn't notice the fire before you mentioned it so I made it bigger and kneeling down guy is now sitting on a rock.
>>2838198
really nice and spoopy but I also agree with >>2838276
>>2838209
I love your lines!

Someone please help me I'm >>2838311

>>2838331
Mirror your canvas a few times. If you're still stuck, get back to the drawing later. But if I were you I would scrap the whole drawing and start a new one. Keep practicing proportions.

>>2838333
Thank you, I'll do that. Thanks to the other anons that helped, too

>Start depending on perspective completely and utterly as I create
>No longer sit there for 5 minutes and mentally visualize
>Stop really thinking to the point of frustration as I'm drawing
>Can't help but feel that I'm cheating
>Mind no longer worn out from drawing and could go for hours before I can't do it anymore

Perspective is literally art cheat codes for drawing from imagination.

I should've submitted to it sooner.

>>2838353
What helped you? Are you reading perspective made easy?

>>2838353
Perspective is easy game, just wait until you get into composition where every little thing counts.

did this thing

>>2838362
It's the knowledge I gained from perspective made easy and the knowledge I gained from how to draw by Scott Robertson.

Perspective made easy is the primary book though.

I didn't really have a major breakthrough until I started drawing from 3D models on my computer. It's the only replacement to drawing from life. It's the only place you can see how perspective works. Pictures aren't worth a fuck.

Check this out

https://sketchfab.com/vanrichterr/collections/for-figger-drawning

>>2838370
>>2838362
Be sure to break everything down into a basic box. Apply perspective (from ear to ear it is a line in perspective, and it's also parallel with the front plane on the box), and be sure to learn how boxes move in perspective. Try tilting them forward and drawing them falling off of a cliff.

I'd say before you get help from 3D software, understanding the ins and outs of perspective is paramount. Know what happens to the vanishing points when a box is tilted in a certain manner. Keep in mind that the roof from perspective made easy is actually a very important example for how to tilt a box in perspective.

>>2838367
Literally what Brian

>>2838370
>>2838373
>>2838362
Also, it's good to have actual 3D software on your computer to help you figure out the objective rotation of vanishing points. It's better than grabbing a box in real life and a plane and running stupid experiments.

I recommend blender.

>>2838367
That's very pretentious.
Congratulations.

>>2838367
Hold up, were you able to finally draw the whole hand with one line?

>>2838042
knightposter reeeeeeee

experimenting

>>2838276
>>2838312
I definitely will.
>>2838260
Thanks. Been trying to work on lighting/composition.
>>2838307
That'd be great lol

>>2838426
Holy cow, your imagination is crazy, anon. Got a blog? Hell, can you be my mentor?

advice?

>>2838426
ops left part of a castle ref in the backkground, was comparing

>>2838428
thanks man : D, i usually never do landscapes because i suck at perspective, no blog unfortunately

>>2838432
Eh, really? That feels hard to believe with how awesome this one is. What were your inspirations for this kind of landscape?

>>2838429
draw the rest of the body

>>2838434
really appreciate that anon....been working everyday trying to get better,...wanted to do a castle ontop of a mountain, with a big landscape, like a rpg fantasy feel.

>>2838429
Really like it.

Not sure how you did it, but it feels like the feet have gender tied to them. Some kind of insane illusion or my subconscious just messing with me. It might be because of the gesture? Tipping feet to reach up to the tall guy to smooch a kiss. What refs did you use for your colors?

>>2838429
pretty shit values/separation between light and dark/no edge control as evidenced by the way you drew the highlights on the toes, the legs don't have any separation bewteen them so they could be like stuck togehter. if that thing in the right hand is your signature, don't write your signature on a study, extend the legs beyond the canvas so it's not just floating legs, fix the color TEMPERATURE - its like u only drew one value for skin when skin actually has multiple colors on it ie. the shadow could be redder and the lights could be bluer ETC oh yea look up subsurface scattering for how light enters the skin and comes out, and finally the shadow on the ground doesn't really feel right, probably because of how soft it's drawn. overall i don't think its terrible but it's lacking subtlety and thought into how a skin works. btw i think the idea is decent, kissing as shown by tip toes, even if it is a bit generic. and i forgot to mention by the way you drew the feet/colors they could be clones b/c of the exact same color and nobodys skin is the same color??

>>2838440
This is the first time, anyone in /ic has been kind to me. Thank you.
Let me add the ref:
http://files.dancemedia.com/dancemagazine/feet.jpg

I tend to not respect the colors much tho

>>2838444
will work on this, thank you very much.
I prefer that they both have the same skin tone. Just for my personal taste in how the palette should be. I'm trying to make it a piece, explaining the signature.

Will inmediately get to work in the values and tones as you said. Thank you for your crit

>>2838426
ok bud learn perspective. please. it will really help you. don't try to tip toe around it, you're only hurting yourself if you're trying to get ahead in drawing, also i can tell you photobashed parts, which is fine but it's not going to help you unless you can paint decently without it. which looking at your brushstrokes you need help. anyway here's what i see. 1. you don't know how to control your shapes, stop trying to polish turds : make sure you know WHERE your rock masses will be and what shadows will be on them, edges are really important in landscape painting.
2. fix your scale, honestly why is the river the same size or even bigger as your landscape goes back, idk what these giant rocks are doing randomly placed in your picture because when people put objects in organic landscapes it's to help with depth.
3, it's just way too messy, you don't know how to control values and learn about how atmospheric perspective works : it's not just lighter in the background/more blue, it's more desaturated in the background. ps. your horizon line looks weird
4. not sure what else other than don't keep trying to polish this, go look up how other people paint landscapes and look at their values/brush control, i appreciate your effort/this is a good start but you need to approach it more methodically rather than so messily

>>2838471
thx for the crit, ill fix that river, i do have a tiny photo of 2 buildings in the back but im planning to take that out, was just comparing values. ya usually i keep a very solid clean approach but, branching off into landscapes, i tend to mess around trying to fix stuff, it gets so messy later on....horizon line is messed up. i was having a lot of trouble with the scale and perspective, need to clarify more where it is. ill check out how others are approaching it...any good suggestions who to check out? fzd is the only one i know besides edlin i think his name is. appreciate the crit again.

>>2834925
>fluorescent tear ducts

I think it's cute tho

critique on lighting greatly appreciated

>>2838388
yep. it's a piece about memory and learning to draw.

>>2838483
yea there's no harm in trying new things/messing around until you find a good approach. and there's nothing inherently wrong with photobashing either i just think it's a crutch for too many people. there's a lot of really great landscape painters out there, not just digital ones, gonna list some of my favs
https://lipking.com/collections/94001
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peder_M%C3%B8rk_M%C3%B8nsted
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Levitan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Shishkin
https://www.richardschmid.com/Articles.asp?ID=254
edgar payne
thomas moran, other hudson river valley painters
https://www.joshclare.com/index.php
http://www.zhaomingwu.com/Landscapes
http://www.ruoliart.com/

recently i've also been liking animated background paintings- kazuo oga, nathan fowkes, eyvind earle, u can find other peoples names online, they're all phenomenal to look at.

also for digital painters, u should look into game concept art/movie concepts that you like, guild wars 2 has some great concept artists working on it, some i liked were kekai kotaki and theo prins. there's really a lot of great people out there that you can look for their approach on composition/color/brushwork/value/whatever, good luck my dude

>>2836114
Sinix fan?

>>2838501
the fuck am i looking at?

>>2838527
Its part of an illustration series for some creepypasta-thing i wrote. Its about "ghosts" entering the world trough a weird tv frequency.

>>2838516
appreciate it, thanks for the info and refs. ya i agree, personally i dont like photobashing, but i understand why its around...it always feels like cheating to me if i do it,. oh ya i cant believe i forget fowkes, really love his colours.

sketched this today, feedback will be appreciated

Why is traditional painting so harrrd. (Specifically paint mixing.) Working with solid watercolor (half pans) and ph Martian Liquid watercolor.

Things either end up too diluted or too muddy. (I am using SHIT paper.... but considering I was using heavy printer paper it is still a step up. ) Next time I am going to use my medium tier paper.

What else can I do. What are some good resources on color mixing. (Also I am partially colorblind...... :/)

>>2838429
>>2838452
>>2838444
I agree with this anons comment, though he could've said it in a nicer way. I want to add that you can take a look at bouguereau paintings, since he is a master of everything the anon mentioned, his hands and feet are insane.

>>2838501
try making the kitchen darker, her sleeves lighter, she will stand out a bit more, The drawing looks solid, my only problem is that your values look muddy, are you using graphite or charcoal?

All anime posters I just ended ur life

>>2838707
>deleted
end your own

>>2838716

>Up for 5 minutes, then deleted it, and 10 minutes later you commented on it.

You should really kill yourself if it took you 10-15 minutes to make a 5 word comment

>>2838720
>he counts the time
delete your life

>>2838723

>Xe doesn't count time

Enjoy life flashing before your eyes without amounting towards anything substantial

Reposting from the beginner thread.

Can any of you Clip Studio Paint pros give me a hand here?

I'm looking for a brush for shading similar to the one used by Megumi Mizutani here (specially check the hat), if you know of anything in those brushes packs or anything, I'd greatly appreciate it.

>>2838407
If you're too lazy to test colour, use a robot to colour it for you.
http://paintschainer.preferred.tech/

>>2838312
Thank you for the advice and even spending the time to do a paint over!
All your advice is ralivent.
I didn't think haveing the other character would work but you show it can.
Your paint over also has much clearer space.
This helps so much thank you.

>>2838697
color & light by james gurney will be able to explain anything better than I can, but I will recommend that you start mixing your complimentary colors (if you don't know what complimentary colors are yet, that's a good place to start). If you need to add shadows to your green values, try using red. Mix your grays and browns by combining compliments. One of the good things about watercolor is your ability to smear and blend hues and values together to create those wonderful inbetween colors - a brown log isn't just brown, and a green leaf isn't just green. It's a lot of different hues. James Gurney will tell you that painting directly from life will help you understand this, when you're aware of your own light source in your own environment its a lot easier to figure out the root of the hues and values you're seeing.

>>2836222
Thanks anon!

Doing some studies, the feet are from a few days ago, hand is from today, gonna just add new ones to this file when I do them

>>2838858
ew

doodling with watercolors. really need to think about my colors though.

>>2838858
This looks pretty cool for what it is, I don't know what the other anon is about
Although the vein doesn't look great

>>2838757
I'd say try out one of the textured watercolor brushes. You might need to mess around with its settings. Other than that there's probably a brush in that huge dlc pack they have now but I'm pretty new to the program myself and haven't tried anything besides the base brushes yet.

>>2839074
Yeah that foot went shite in general, I didn't even like the ref. I'm happy with the rest though, can't always do a good job!

>>2839146
too chromatic. tree looks tiny. make the values no darker than the trees below it.

Hello! Here's a study

>>2839171
Take note Ch00b.

>>2839160
i don't know how to do that.

not sure of how to continue this, kind of upset that I keep making he main subject detailed/closer to finished before I do anything else in the picture.

Anyone have tips on restraining yourself from doing this? Posting from mobile, sorry if it's fuck huge or rotated

>>2839209
stop being a fag and just go and rough in everything else. it's called self control

>>2839191
you color pick the trees that are aligned with the big tree you are drawing, then you use that color for the big tree. like this.

>>2838609
Is that Disco Stew?

>>2839261
holy shit. fuck me that looks way better. i fucking quit anon.

>>2839265
thats why i dont like redlining -_-

>>2839261
lol what no. the original is much better. the composition on this paintover is a fucking mess now

>>2839275
its literally the same. all i did was shift colors and values i wasn't doing anything to the composition you dipshit

>>2839277
thats still changes the composition you dip shit... you pushed the main subject into a lighter area. so the focus isnt on the tree anymore its all a mess now because theres no focus. fucking wanker

>>2837117
> Been practicing daily on perspective and form
Some kind of ship with interior

>>2839284
I love little stuff like this

>>2837849

first time drawing a bike seriously and yes that is mob

>>2839363
How do you get the wheels right?

>>2839390
Kinda hard to explain just try to think of the simple shapes step by step make sure everything is working together.

>>2839320
anywhere I can find more of your stuff?

trying out some custom brushes in Paintstorm

>>2839530
maybe make something that is readable?

>>2838698
>http://files.dancemedia.com/dancemagazine/feet.jpg
>>2838444
>>2838429
>>2838440

Hey yesterday I forgot to upload the """"fix""""" is still in progress, thank you for your help.

Destroy this one.

First crack using water soluble charcoal

>>2839601
skin doesnt look like this. it looks like pale dead skin

>>2838429
Is that rendered from that one tumblr contour drawing?

I'm drawing Poe for a friend's birthday that's coming up in 2 weeks. I normaly have about 3 hours a day I can spend on this and I'm running out of time (making a frame from scrap in same time limit). What the fuck do I do for the background? Was thinking maybe a circular gradiant darker at the edges of the paper and getting lighter towards his head. Tell me what you think, I need someone better than me to tell me my shit.

>>2838894
helpful
You could at least tell what part is the most ew.

>>2838858
Doing studies from photos can be hard. Try to find references with hard shadows and one lightsource. It makes it easier to tell the underlying form instead of seemingly random shadow shapes and subtle skintone variations. They can be distracting.

Anyway, I think it looks good.

>>2839446
I mostly post paintings
perspectivallyincorrect.tumblr.com
Instagram @yara.ameel

>>2839172
This went way over my head if this was meant for me

Kek is dumb

>>2839171
Study # 2

>>2840050
Mouth too narrow and high, you rounded the space between the jaw and the cheek bone on the right side and it makes her fatter. The angle of the nostrils is too high and her right eye's outer tip is pointed upwards in your drawing rather than down.

>>2840080
*her left eye, the eye on the right

>>2840080
Is this better, anon?

wip

>>2837849
Pretty interesting lines anon, got more stuff to show?

>>2840130
more like a trump protester. You fucking libshit.

>>2840176
calm down trumpie

>>2835329
I agree with some anons, make her look forward with her eyes mostly closed.

>>2835512
His shoulder/whole arm

>>2838894
>>2839861
Anon is disgusted by 3D body parts

Week's worth of lecture doodles

>>2840130
https://youtu.be/bIgoB2HD0t4

>>2840178
Damn right. Fight me, you little faggot pussy hat wearing, refugee supporting little shit.

Fight me.

First life drawing of another human being in few years. crits plx

>>2840195
Oh fuck bros

Quick photo study

>>2840254
colors are a bit muddy

>>2839861
i said ew because feet dont look like that famil

did these two this last night

>>2840254
You gotta have the underpainting/more thickness in your strokes, you're too light and worried about mistakes here and its causing black to bleed through and make you're values muddy

>>2840332
also last night

>>2840171
the skyscrapers are a bit messed up and you should make widows narrower as things get further away, but pretty nice anon

>>2840313
ehmm can you maybe tell me and show me what I did wrong? I know the first foot looks like shit, but what is wrong with the rest?

>>2840393
best thing you've done in a while, love it

>>2839171
qt

>>2840334

I went a bit overboard with the texture settings, but thanks.

Here's Tom Waits

>>2840584
fuck off sam

>>2840419
look at the feet you drew and look at your feet. does your feet have that many purples and reds?

the color of skin varies in hue from yellow to red almost no purple. the foot on the far left is also broken with the heel misplaced. the other two feet shift the hue way too much from red to a tint yellow. it needs to be subtle and clear

>>2840188
Not batman.

>>2840686
bad subject, good drawing

>>2840407
I agree anon wholeheartedly
Thanks

You like my Kat /ic/?

>>2840686
How do I get as good as you anon?

>inb4 suck at drawing from imagination

>sweaty hands

>>2840770
Looks unfinished. It you're gonna do flat colors at least suggest some shading and form with the line weight.

face went a bit rouge. oh well

>>2840770
Why is she pink, what the fuck

>>2835028
I am very sad that I'm really no better at taxidermy than this.

A client made me wait quite a bit for this commission, so I just resumed it, I hope it looks correct.

A bit OT but I charged 50 usd for it, was it too cheap? How much should I have priced it?

>>2840686
nice trace

>>2840861
Are you aware of the concept of doing studies, right?
The goal is to recreate the same picture for learning purposes

>>2840860
That's pretty good.

>>2840859
50 sounds about right for that kinda quality

>>2840863
nice trace

>>2840861
nice bait

>>2840584
your blocking is messy and you blend too much, also you have no highlights and or value control, work on traditional graphite for a while and come back

>>2840871
Fuck off, he should've charged above $200 for the amount of work, quality means shit. But the quality is good enough for that anyway. Motherfuckers need to start adding value to the art community so we can eat, damn it.

>>2839363
finished coloring it.

>>2840859
I'd say that's cheap anon, considering how it's figure and environment, and fully painted too. Depends on who the client is too though.

>>2840893
>price on the amount of work
lol no. i personally wouldnt even buy that for 50. maybe 20 or less. the quality is just awful

>>2840905
Nobody cares what you personally would pay for. /ic/ is moderately good for art advice but worthless for pricing and marketing advice.

>>2840907
>Nobody cares what you personally would pay for.
who pissed in your cheerios? i did't asked if you cared nigger. the quality is too piss poor for anything above 50$, if you think this is wrong then art is not for you.

>>2840917
I know it's wrong because I've made my living off art since for over a decade. Almost nobody here has any idea what they're talking about when it comes to the business side of art.
I reiterate: you're wrong, and nobody should trust any money related advice from here. They're much better off going and doing real research on it.
Last reply you get from me.

>>2840942
>They're much better off going and doing real research on it
except none exists and irrelevant.

did you honestly went into art thinking youre going to make money? its 2k17 . creating bloated prices for shit art is just fucking retarded. anyone with a decent taste wouldn't buy that garbage for 200$ i dont give a fuck if you dont meet your ends meet, thats your fault pal.

>>2834918
What's the best way to improve my art ? beginner level

worth continuing?

>>2840948
Read the sticky, please

>>2840893
>>2840889
Thank you guys, I thought so, However I also thought I should low value myself because this is barely my 2nd one but from now on I will try to get better informed with usual prices and practices especially after all the effort I put in it and my earnest attempt to equalize the client's idea with my own standard

>>2840963
Good on you anon. Price yourself like a professional always. If you don't take yourself seriously nobody else will. The same goes for how you represent your industry and how it's perceived.
And if ever, for any reason you think your work is not worth the prices you want to charge, do whatever you can to raise the quality instead of lowering the prices. You're as valuable as you make yourself, remember that.

>>2839010
Came out well but it is really flat and almost symbolic.

I like the background.

>>2840970
Thanks and yes that's actually one of the reasons why I don't put myself out there just yet, I want to not only git gud but also waaaay faster, unfortunately I felt compelled to do these couple of comissions because these clients really liked my stuff and made an effort to reach despite me not making any announcements/publishing prices.

>>2841011
Trust me, jumping in and experiencing it will get you on the level you want to be way faster than trying to improve in a safe environment. Your skill level is high enough to start getting your hands dirty. Keep studying for sure, always do that. Just don't fall into the trap of holding yourself back because you're not "ready" because you'll never be ready.

>>2840958
no start over

fanart sketch

there's a lotta things that are very wonky about this but anyone have any pointers on drawing detailed accessories in perspective? is it just a matter of eyeballing or do you plan it out with grids... perspective is scary

>>2841189
The head is too small for the body

>>2841189
I'm guessing this is a JoJo character? The face looks way too feminine to me. I don't really have any advice on the perspective thing though.

>>2841189

>>2841199
thanks, I'll keep that in mind next time~

>>2841200
it's kars! just got into jojo which gives me an excuse to go ham on the muscles, lots of fun

the feminine thing might be just my style but thanks for the feedback! yeah the accessories thing is really dissuading me from not drawing naked people

>>2841204
ah I'm still working on learning the body so thanks for the ref sheet!

>>2841212

>>>2841207

>>2841231
ah ok now I see what you mean, so masculine = squarer jawline, thinner eyes and mouth? gotcha, will do

>>2840861
Have you actually compared the two? The anon got very close but it's not exactly the same, since it can't be unless he really traced, which he didn't. I guess your eyes are not good enough yet to see his mistakes. I feel like you just started, post in the beginner thread and come here to tell shit to people. Train your eyes senpai.

>>2840778
Well for this piece, all I did was follow the instructions here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgJXyEsakC8

>>2840861
>>2840873
Tracing can be usefull for value studies if you don't want to waste time with proportions, but as you can see here, I wouldn't have messed it up this much, if I had traced.

>>2840958
Ahh anon, this might sound mean but it doesn't look good, at all, I've been a bit in the same boat.
Look at other artists work for composition, try to make one that works by learning from other ones. It is not cheating, just learning and you will be able to do it yourself later on.
Also do a few landscape studies, google maps/street view is great for refs! And then try again, use refs, stuff you learned from other peoples work! You'll improve and get there.

>>2840781
>>2840831

It is unfinished. The colors arent final and im going to add shading. Or planning. I will probably just leave plain colors.

The only thing finished is the linework

>>2841278
>Tracing can be useful for value

Please leave and never come back

>>2840859
Seems a bit low actually, I don't know shit about pricing or anything but maybe 70-80 would be best?

>>2841395
If you don't want to worry about proportions, and solely practice your value, it is beneficial to trace a line drawing. Doing it that way, you know that the only reason your drawing looks off is because of your lack of value knowledge and not because you fucked up the proportions.
If you want to practice both, you just don't trace.

>>2839320
>>2837849

Underrated. are you working off images or is that all from your head? Wonderful use of line to convey form in the same vein as bridgman.

>>2838101
You're trying real hard with interesting rendering techniques, but you need to paint from life for such a simple subject so you get an idea of shadow shapes/light. The lighting on that is really wrong/weird. Looks like you rendered it in blender internal and then painted over it.

thoughts?

>>2838123
Agreed
the whole thing adds up to something oddly disturbing

/ic/ how do i colourize greyscale? The picture looks washed out and messy. I want to paint over more once it's coloured, but I don't know how to make the colours look good

>>2841856
The second one is gorgeous

>>2840172
For now, no. but I will start posting sketches in my blog here >>2839866 , because of all the positive feedback, thank you!

>>2841821
>are you working off images
Yes, however, some elements are from imagination like hands and expressions. Also, I'm really glad to hear that, thanks!

new thread when???

Hello guys. Do you use opacity or flow when painting.

I use hard brush with flow with built up and pen preasure when I'm painting.sketching and it looks okay. if I use opacity with pen pressure, my blending and edges are messy. Am I forgetting something when using opacity? I directly paint and I don't use a lot of layers. I want to avoid blurry edges.

>>2835329
I love the clothes l. How did you get the design?

>>2842084
Do it yourself ya lazy bum

>>2841885
>tfw no gf

>>2841885
Do you go to Art Center?

>>2842408
yeah, recently started. what makes you say that?

>>2842407
...?

>>2842420
not him but that's pretty neat
are you in Entertainment Design?