/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Is the difference between the light side and shadow side an absolute number or is it proportional for objects within the same lighting conditions of different local values?

>>2813729
i'm looking for something inbetween how to draw and perspective made easy, any suggestions?

>>2813952
How to draw by Scott Robertson

>>2813729
Pic related says that in environments with one light source the shadow would always be darkest at the origin. Yet when I've tried to confirm this in experience I'm not so sure I see this (the distinction between midtone and highlight in real life makes it quite a bit harder). For example when you take a cube, each different face has a distinct value, instead of just having the lightest and darkest as the image would suggest (I know it's not the most academic source, but the dude is clearly better than me at light and colouring)

What material can I read or see to clarify this?

Also a couple other questions I've been unanswered:

>What conditions besides atmospheric perspective change color saturation?
>What other exercises can you do to practice composition besides thumbnails?

>the same image

>>2814115
that picture is such horseshit its hard to fully break it down.
First off, the origin of the shadow is not its core. The core is where the line of light is tangent to the curved surface. As the surface is likely curving away from the light source before the tangent is met, the surface will get darker before the core shows up. So right off the bat this picture is wrong. But, you're mentioning using cubes but the idea of a core shadow isn't for flat surfaces (maybe theres a situation where it is, not one I can think of), its for curves. Just hold your hand up to a light, you should be able to see a core pretty easily (keep in mind it'll be more saturated than just dark, due to subsurface scattering).

Man that picture sucks though, seriously don't try to learn fundamentals from people who are like, slightly better than you, learn them from people who are objectively professionals. Try Color and Light by Gurney

>>2814146
Still Color and Light has received massive amounts of shit from /ic/ so I'm not quite sure.

Still I guess that the tangent to the curved surface is what he means by "the origin", using Pikachu's head as a spehere.

My issue with the cube example is that a circle is just a regular infinite-sided polygon. and so by translating that into the sphere, the same light difference between planes should constitute a gradient from shadow to light, if I understand correctly.

Still I'm quite lost, is there an alternative to Color and Light? Or will it just serve me anyways.

Thanks for your answer anyways

>really happy with a drawing
>about to go to bed
>turn around and decide to add one more thing
>completely ruin it and erasing it just makes it worse

So whats the best way to off myself?

>>2813729
For a long time my heads looked a bit alien-like, like hydrocephallic and shit.
After observing real life faces and such, I realize my mistake was having the eye level as 1/2 the head (how it is teached in almost all head proportions), while this was less than 10% of the cases I watched. I know it's an approximate and a shortcut, but I do consider it a really bad one. Am I wrong?

>>2813729

I want to start selling my work (traditional and digital aswell). Which is the way to go?

I ain't working for peanuts, if you're wondering.

So, I simply go and ask to the richfags...?

>>2814165
let it sit come to it tomorrow as with no decision fatigue.

>>2814239
>Pic related

>>2814239
>>2814288
>(how it is teached in almost all head proportions)

With regards to the Loomis method I believe the eye level is actually taught to be around half the size of the "ball" construction-not the whole head. An easy enough mistake to make.

>>2813729
What kind of wood pencils should I buy as a beginner? I know to get some 8B from the beginner sticky. Should i get a harder one too, like a HB? I have zero experience using non 2B pencils.

>>2814146
it's psy ops to prevent people getting gud

>>2814310

I've seen that half the size of the ball is actually the eyebrow level. So, can we take Loomis and all similar head construction methods as aimed to idealized results, like 8-head tall bodies?

>>2814165
slowly with cigarettes

>>2814310
Hogarth for example says that it's the nose bridge that marks the half. The nose bridge sounds like quite unespecific compared to "eye level"

Can someone explain to me how does brachialis work? As in, when is it clearly visible and makes any difference in the form of the arm. Right now it seems like biceps and lower arms just cover it completely. Is it even visible on a lean person?

Also, is there any decent tutorial how to draw elbows? Or should I just continue on directly to the lower arm muscles?

Any general advices what material on anatomy should I study?

>>2814450
From my experience, its one of the muscles that only show on muscular figures.

Its the gray area that covers the gaps between the triceps, biceps, flexors, and supernator..

Who is this Brian people keep talking about on /ic/?

How do i stop being enraged whenever something goes wrong?

I recently got a hold of Structure of Man and I'm wondering if there a best way there is to approach watching these videos. 5 folders of different subjects within it, but if there was a .pdf or book that was supposed to go along with it I do not have it. Just started watching the first video in Human Being, but I just wanted to check in here to see if anyone with prior experience or knowledge of the Structure of Man had any advice on how to best learn from the resource.

>>2814682
practice and they wont go wrong anymore

>>2814731
Im making self portraits for 10 years now and its never quite me, also the quality of my drawings is very inconsistent.
So yesterday i made 2 self portraits that were on the right track, but today i tried 4 and they were all shit. I got so mad that i still dont get it and that i dont even know how to improve.

>>2814740
post an example of yiur drawing.

I'm not exactly sure what exactly i'm doing wrong here.

so you have two vanishing points for the box on top of the "table", one for the table itself converging at the horizon line, and the last vanishing point for the table edges is going off the page.

I feel like the drawing isn't technically inaccurate, but i'm not fully understanding perspective "theory" in the way that vanishing points are "supposed" to work.

>>2814754
Not every single edge leads to a vanishing point lol. Otherwise everything would have to be oriented as your green object.


Like imagine a larger square oriented to fit the same vanishing points as the green object, then cut out the corners to create a square oriented like your table.

Or just connect the corners to the vanishing points and that will give you the thickness in perspective.

>>2814768

Ohhhh, so basically the perspective is essentially oriented to the "ground plane", so like if you were drawing a room in two point perspective, not every object in the room would have to be facing the exact same direction?

>>2814157
I don't know who's talking shit about color and light. It will serve you fine. I don't know why you're iffy about buying a universally acclaimed guide book but are okay with following a terrible 100% inaccurate deviantart tutorial.

I guess a cube is a sphere with two sides, but in that case, no, the same phenomenon that happens with a circle would not happen with a cube. If every plane is its own value, then how are you supposed to have more than two values when holding two sides of a cube up to a light? A core appears because an initial light source and its reflections share a similar tangent, its certainly not a universal constant and it wouldn't appear on a cube unless it was under special circumstances. Just get the color and light book dude, don't follow lighting tutorials from 16 year olds.

>>2814780
The perspective is oriented to the ground plane in relation to objects sharing parallel lines with the ground plane. If you take your green box and turn it, the sides will go to new vanishing points, and any other object in the room orientated in a way that it shares parallel sides with the green box will head toward those same vanishing points. And if you turn it again, there will be new vanishing points as well. The only constant between a multitude of differently orientated objects in a room is that all their vanishing points will lay on the pictures eye level.

Also for the red square there, when two sides are perpendicular to your line of sight, they're essentially in a one point perspective situation, so 'vanishing point 4' isn't really something you need to worry about.

Also, don't quote me on this, I could be wrong, but if distortion increased and increased on that red object, then eventually those horizontal lines would be essentially sucked into the sphere of your eyes perspective interpretation. Hard to explain, basically I think that once that red square exits your cone of vision, those straight lines begin to curve in your peripheral.
I'm kind of rambling at this point, but I think its probably important to realize sooner rather than later than apart from your eye level and a vertical straight out ahead of you, no line is strictly straight in perspective. All lines are influenced by the reality of the sphere of our vision. You can often add a bit of life to your cubes by respecting the subtle fish eye of all lines as they curve around the very center of your eye level. I'm still learning stuff myself though, the abstract of the world outside of the typical cone of vision probably isn't important for you right now.

Does anyone know a good way of downloading images from LineofAction? Like a plug in or a certain element to inspect and block?

>>2814800

This was EXTREMELY helpful, thank you so much anon.

What version of photoshop do they use in ctrl+paint?

I bought CSP awhile ago but the interface was to confusing for me to switch from Sai to it.
Are there any good tutorials on using it?
Also, Is it true that CSP is better for line art then Sai? I've been messing around with it but almost all my lines appear pixelated.

>>2813729
How would you go about getting these kinds of lines?

can anyone explain what people mean when they say to limit how many values to use? ie "only use 5 values". Aren't a bunch of values created when you soften an edge?

>>2815755
use HB Pencil on paper > Scan to computer (or take a photo from phone) > Adjust Levels in Photoshop

For coloring, use Paint Tool SAI > click Layer tab > select Luminance to Transparency > now color below the lineart layer


>>2815210
Visit the website maybe? http://www.clipstudio.net/en/functions
CSP is very useful when you use vector layer for lines. Easy to erase lines, adjusting thickness, correcting shaky lines. Here's one useful guide: http://tutorials.sama-sama-studio.com/inking-an-illustration-in-manga-studio/

If you have 2 activities equally (for example programming and drawing), and you want to do it professionally both, which one would you choose?

>>2815210
https://youtu.be/Xhvr1JUEwdo you can skip the last 15 minutes but the rest of the vid is useful

any ideas for interesting lighting?
also critique

>>2815807
The one I would want to do

>>2814677
A really good painter that /ic/ is jealous of because he actually makes money.

>>2815824
But if either of them looks interesting for you?

>>2815807

Programming, much more likely to get a decent job and earn cash money to support the leisure activity of drawing anime girls in your spare time

>>2815825
How do they know his name is Brian?

>>2815847
But if you choose programming, you would never draw a concept art for games.

>>2815807
Object-oriented programming and maybe database programming next.

I'm forever a hobbyist at art because I am not good at thinking situations and just enjoy making anime art.

Does tracing gesture from pose is kind of cheating? I mean, I don't trace the pose directly, but just using it as reference. Is it bad if I want to draw from imagination?

I'm trying to learn how to draw the human figure from imagination and I'm sort of stuck on construction. In many artbooks on the subject I see boxes being primarly used for a construction of the figure, which I can also do somewhat, but after constructing the figure this way, I often cannot work the construction out to a solid drawing. I often end up with something that is flat, missing a lot of details and just doesn't feel right. Is this because using boxes for the construction of the figure is to simplified for me to work out to a good figure drawing or is it because I'm not good enough in working the construction out to a finished drawing, what step am I doing wrong? I'll try to find something to show as example.

How do I draw the out line of a female lomis head structure?

>>2816006
nevermind, while trying to work out a good construction for an example, I found out that I couldn't nail down a good construction.

What's the best book to begin learning how to color with?

>>2814283

Bump question/thread.

>>2816006
Construction is used to 'rotate' the subject in space. If you want to be able to draw a figure from that, you'll need to be able to "carve" the box into a more detailed objects but that requires knowledge of anatomy.

It helps to draw the subject e.g. the ribcage from the front, side, and back then simplify that into a box which you "carve" into a more detailed form. If you can do that in 2D, it can be done in 3D using the 2D drawings as a guide.

This is good of doing studies.

Hi, I am not an actual artist, but I am requesting art from someone, I just would like some recommendations on websites or tools to use as reference for nude women, now regarding software I was reading that poser could probably help me, do you have any other recommendations for this task? Thanks.

what's a good canvas size to use so my lines can look great? I'm talking about smooth varied weighted lines

How do I get my creativity back? I took some years of off drawing/art and just felt like I need to get back to it again. I NEED to get back to it again. I know I still have the skills but for the love of God I can never figure out what to draw... I just doodle for a few minutes and stop. It's making me sad.

>Albert Abraham Michelson dedicated his life to measuring the speed of light and was the first American to win a Nobel Prize for physics. Even as he was dying at age 78, he was measuring light. He wrote in his log: “The following is a report on the measurement of the velocity of light made at the Irvine Ranch, near Santa Ana, California, during the period of September 1929 to—.”
How do I become this dedicated?

>>2816995
Don't care what others think and do what you want to do because you want to do it.

>>2816071

Scott Robertson's How To Render.

I also recommend James Gurney's Color and light.

Also quick note:
Gurney's book is focused on color theory [color palettes, color schemes, warm-cool].

Scott's book covers color, but he also gets into shading/rendering concepts like sub surface scattering, ambient occlusion, etc.

>>2816994

>I just doodle for a few minutes and stop.
There's your problem dude, you're just randomly sketching like your in a highschool classroom, not really paying attention to WHAT exactly you're drawing.

Start reading the classics, look at how people tell STORIES.
Read Aesop's Fables, look at the nationalistic painters of the Napoleonic Empire trying to convey the soul lifting ideal of conquest to persuade their viewers to support the cause, read Orwell's 1984 and put yourself in the author's position as to why he is writing what he is, look at the epitome of what you can become as a human i.e "The Renaissance Man."

So let's review our inspiration here:
1. The Classics (Oscar Wilde, Tolstoy, Shakespeare, etc.)
2. History (The rise of empires, revolutions, etc.)
3. Philosophy (Nietzsche's ideal of the ultimate goal of man [ubermensch].

There is plenty out there for inspiration, keep going, you're just in a slump.

How do I do this when it's on the eye level?

I can't get my head around it at all.

>>2816955

This sounds like a composition question.

>>2815954

No. Tracing direct poses is bad, but gesture is primarily communicating the body language of the person. It doesn't matter if the person is young, old, male or female, short or tall, slim or fat, et cetera. Never draw these details in the gesture.

Use this to practice economy of lines you use to obtain the gesture. Aim to have as few lines as possible, avoid chicken scratch. Use clean linrd and make them flow. If you're drawing on paper (and I hope you are), use your elbow and your arm as to express these lines as often as you can.

It's okay to break realism here if it means having a stronger gestural drawing.You can often find a single curved line that goes from one of the shoulders, down the rib cage and into the opposite leg. Look for larger shapes - you don't need to indicate both sides of the arm if one side is dominant enough to convey the gesture.

>>2816006
>>2816024

If you're not doing life drawing classes (longer poses, 1+ hour each), you really should.

And in these classes you should challenge yourself to draw both what you see directly in front of you, as well as draw the construction of the figure. The latter is absolutely needed if you want to achieve good rendering. Put two of these together and you'll build up a vocabulary of lights, shadows and forms on the human body.

>>2817032

Seconding this.

Also, draw music. Translate what you hear onto the paper/canvas. Look for inspiration in your activities.

>>2816955
This sounds like an art question.

>>2816994
This sounds like a creativity question.

>>2816071
This sounds like a colouring question.

>>2817062

Don't take the piss.

How do I deal with my jealousy for kids going into art schools who receive the best instruction, have lots of motivation, really amazing peers and make amazing work? is anyone else jealous of people who made the choice to go to art school

Someone can tell me what are the best video courses around? Something that could totally replace books, after all my years studying on them Iìve really had enouhg of them. Just suggest me the best and most complete videos.

>>2817086
Books are to be used in tandem with video. Don't abandon books.

Where this texture from? Just wonder if there is bigger version, with fine resolution.

>>2817081
I am. Not only because of what you said, but also the friends, new experiences, a lot of different mediums a broader vision of what art is

>>2817057
Ah okay, thanks man.

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>>2817048

I'm sorry lads but I'm far more important than anyone else in this thread so I deserve to have my question answered as quickly as possible.

>>2816113
>>2817057

thanks, I'm thinking about doing longer studies of individual body parts and maybe some more essential anatomy, but from your answers I'm getting a sense that even the construction really involves a lot of elements you need to familiarize yourself with and simple boxes is only going to be enough for the people who have drawn the human figure so much that they have sort of a collection of poses they have memorized. I think I'm gonna try figuring out some more defined shapes for the construction of each body part, if I remember correctly hamptons book had some. But again, thanks for the reply.

How do you keep the same reference eye position when drawing something in real life?

When drawing from a photo, the scene stays the the same. If you look away and look back, it's still the same scene.

But in real life, everytime you change where you're looking, or your head position, even the smallest amount, the whole scene changes. All the angles, lines, etc are different.

So how do you make sure you keep drawing from the same viewing point when drawing from real life?

Anyone have any tips?

>>2817444
Stay very still, shit you not, measurements go fucking crazy and you think you just suck at drawing or something but you're just not staying still.

How does one learn Proportions? I'm on 'Figure Drawing For All It's Worth' right now, on the page where Loomis discusses proportions.

I suppose I have to copy/redraw these diagrams but I'm not even sure how I'd begin.

I'm worried the book's too advanced for me.

>>2817517
Proportions is quite simple.

It's just the measurements of the body and how they measure relative to each other.

All in all, it makes more sense if you actually draw because anyone who doesn't know probably doesn't draw much then.

I'll even give you an example, someone draws a face, but the eyes are too big. That means the proportions are off. Same thing with the body. The arms are too big or the legs are too long. Proportions are off then. Loomis created this general guideline for you that applies to most figures so you can adapt and change it to how you see fit. It's revolutionary really, but you won't be able to fully make use of it until you draw a lot and fill up your visual library.

>>2817525
Thank you very much! I guess I was just overthinking it.

what's a good way to practice line weight and adjusting your hands to the wacom pen pressure setting?

Just getting into block printing for fun and was wondering what's a good paper to use? I was using some Archie's paper my dad found like 7 years ago and I just realized I'm about to run out. Also is there a way to get good even pressure without a press?

>>2813729
I got a fancy set of colored pencils. what's a fun way to use them? Any coloring methods i should try with them?

>>2818517
Are they prisma

Is there an /ic/ equivalent for architectural model and rendering?

I was reading Perspective Made Easy and in page 103, it shows a few boxes randomly placed in perspective. The book mentioned how you can place the boxes in any direction as long as the vanishing points are all on the same line. But on the red boxes, the second vanishing point is outside of the page while the first one is on the visible line. My question is, how do I locate the vanishing points of a randomly placed object correctly?

Do you know some good watercolor artists? Watercolor masters to learn from?

>>2814313
Just get a set newbie. I personally use Kooh-I-Noor's set wich is F to 8B. My most used ones are HB>3B

what does "use the H.L. as a hinge and double down" mean

>>2817097
Seems like sponge smear to me

>>2817048
>>2817161
okay so Gondola A is our main subject. let's say he's 6 feet tall. if you want to move him futher back you pick a point and draw the lines going all the way to your first vanishing point. which is where we get gondola B.
just like boxes he'll strink. but still maintain the same proportions.

Now for Gondola C we create a new reference vanish point from gondola B through to where you want C to stand and to your new vanishing point.

i dont know if this is what you're asking but it might help somebody,

Recently got a wacom tablet for free from a relative. As a beginner, would starting out drawing digital be detrimental in any way as opposed to paper?

>>2820013
No, in fact, you pick up drawing even faster with digital because of all the shortcuts. It removes the annoyances you would deal with on physical media. You can undo mistakes easily and focus on the whole instead of the tidbits. Digital painting is super flexible and allows you to learn quickly too since there's a color picker so you don't have to strain your eyes, but be able to actually pick out what's really there. Although, I would argue perspective is a bit difficult to learn with digital, but it's not impossible. It's just a tad difficult without a ruler.

>>2820014

This is what we call "terrible advice."

>>2820013
Yes it would be detrimental.
Not saying you shouldnt use it at all, just have a bit of fun with it and mess around but keep your fundamental studies on paper. The fact that you cant "undo" your mistakes so easily will beat them in your head sooner so you dont repeat them. Also with trad you can draw anywhere, anytime. With a tablet you have to be at your pc.
I suggest you get a nice big block of paper (here i can get like 150 A3 papers for 20$) and a nice set of pencils (F to 8B). Also I must insist on bigger paper size because if you draw small you will not be able to draw in all the details meaning you effectively "avoided" drawing and therefore learning. Good luck

>>2820036
Thanks.

Need advice.
i was thinking a lot about online courses recently and I decided to go through with it. CG masters is too expensive for me right now so I was thinking Schoolism.
What do you guys think? Are there any more courses? Better ones? Anybody taking a course online? Any info appreciated

>>2820043
Schoolism and SVSLearn are pretty good. Do the drawing fundamentals and get really good at them, then you'll be able to improve whatever you want after that.

>>2820043
>Better ones?

Online courses are supplements to hands on instruction. You'll want good, competent teachers in addition to self-teaching. So if you can afford it and you have an atelier in your proximity (Watts, Aristides, etc), I'd go to that one without thinking twice.

>>2820061
Are there alternatives to ateliers and still get good, competent teachers?

>>2820063

If you're lucky you can find someone who is local and teaches at a nearby college teaching art courses. The issue with these is most often the courses and the course-work are not only unintuitive to learning art work, but also end up frustrating the teachers due to the schedule format.

Whoever you go with, make sure you ask to see their work.

>>2820013
As a wise man once said, master paper first before you move on to tablet

>>2817048
This is how it would look like if your height line was on your eye level. On a drawing like that, which clearly defines that outside of a building, you don't need to put the height line on the eye level line or higher, unless you want to draw giants. Don't worry if you don't understand it yet. You will learn more how to use the height line once you reach page 99.
Also one important tip when studying this part of the book is don't forget about the "base line".

FUCK, guys i need your help. There was a cool artwork posted on ic which served great as a wallpaper for my phone. It was a highly detailed piece of a really big building covered with green moss, overall everything had that cartoonish maybe anime feel with green hue. Anyone could help?

>>2813729
where can I find more refs like this

>>2820558
Reverse image search on google pulls up a few visually similar images that fits the bill. From the looks of things there might be a few pinterest blogs that focus on these types of photos.

>>2820558
>>>/hr/

does anyone have that guide that tells you how to git gud in a year? I had it but lost it

>>2820585
yeah I did that after I posted it, never browsed pinterest but I found some nice(thicc/fit) pics for ref

>>2820640
also never looked at that board but will check it out

thanks guys

>>2820732
second

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>>2821006
https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=E06DB73ECC23E4EF!679&ithint=file%2codt&app=Word&authkey=!AD8ifQUs5NTi40Y
https://youtu.be/Ri214tmYTgM

>>2821011
thank you anon.

i'm a beginner who just read the sticky, i am, interested in traditional media, when i start studying colour, should i begin with colour pencils, pastels, acrylic or what???

>>2821250
beginners start with graphite. Ordered by importance:

1. Line/edge
2. value
3. color

How would explain One Point Perspective to someone who is trying to learn it? The saying goes that unless you can say it in your own words then you don't actually understand it. Well I definitely don't understand it, and I'm curious to see who thinks they do.

>>2821298
>You see these diagonal lines? Yeah, that's called perspective.
>Where are all the diagonal lines going? Yeah, to that one point.
>This is called One Point Perspective because all the perspective lines go to this one point. Understand?

>>2813729

I know i need help with colours/lighting ect has anyone got any advice or good tutorials?

Tutorials for fur/feathers and anatomy also welcomed but right now I would like to follow on colours/lighting.

I would also like tutorials that involve the ball or cube (pic related is just a quick one)

>>2821650
Sticky
James Gurney
Scott Robertson How to Render

>>2821654
Thank you!
After seeing the last post was 8hrs ago I wasn't expecting such a quick reply!

could somebody tell me what symbol drawing is?

>>2821723
It's when see an eye, you draw the eye you think looks like instead of drawing what is actually there. This is a problem most beginner have because they suck at measuring things with their eyes.

I used a photo as a reference for a drawing I did and now I want to post it online. I don't remember where I got the photo from. Does anybody care if I don't link to the reference I used? My drawing doesn't even resemble the original that much.

It's a stupid question, but I was wondering if anybody had some experience with this kind of stuff.

>>2821904
Dont go that far.
Like ofc you dont wanna trace and give credit to the ref u used but cmon now... i aing gonna credit google images in every single work. I aint gonna credit some artists work because i liked the way he made part of thr characters hair flow.
My advice: if you heavily referenced something then credit the artist. But if your using 5-6 images for very minor shit and most are photos then i wouldnt bother

>>2821904
If you care you can try to reverse google image search it.

If the ref you used is recognizable from your painting, you can mention a ref was used. If not, then there's no real need to mention.

To different people, using a ref could mean slavishly copied or briefly gleaned. Different people even care whether refs were used or not. Personally I'd only bother mentioning it if the painting heavily relied on the ref.

The only big no-no is actively lying about ref use, especially when asked about it

>>2821904
It's always good to credit the stuff you used

Is there a material that I can easily mold by bashing it other than hot steel?

Asking for a friend.

This is about art but about this board itself

What was /ic/ like in the 2000's? Any oldfags want to tell me about it? Just curious.

Photoshop question here. I'm doing studies from ref and have my work file and the ref open in 2 separate windows. I selected 'zoom all windows' in the zoom tool options so the ref zoom matches when I zoom into my work file. However, this only works when I select the magnifying glass and manually click to zoom in/out, not when use the ctrl +/- shortcuts, anyone know why the shortcuts don't work? How to fix? THanks.

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>>2813729

Is it better to begin grinding fundamentals with traditionals (pen, paper, pencil) or would it be acceptable to go straight to digital.

I'd like to work mainly with digital though.

>>2822304
It's easier in the beginning with physical media just because you can plot points and drop a ruler. Once you can do that with just your eyeball, it doesn't matter anyways whether or not you use digital. Digital makes everything quicker, so stick with it.

>>2813729

Where would be a good place to post some of my studies for critiques in a galley style page set up, something like DA or something?

Also, what would be a good website to post both smut and SFW material, I have exp. drawing, but grinding through fundamentals to get a better grasp and idea, though I have some other personal works I would like to submit.

I'm choosing electives for my university degree right now. I'm doing a science major, is it ok to sperg out on Art for the elective degrees (electives have to be non-science subjects anyway)?

This is the first time im visiting this board, i just wanted to ask if anyone can give me any advice on how make this pic more alive (i know im shit)

>>2823931
Probably not, art takes a load of time. Science classes sound the same.

>>2824491
The thing is I have a strong interest in art, so I'm not sure if it's that much worse than taking an elective in something like econ/finance and slogging through it. I literrally can't pick science electives since I'm taking a bachelor of science, the uni's kind of weird that way.

>>2825025
So, is your interest in science even higher than art? Or am I not understanding something here. If you want to take art classes then go for it, but if you're not going to be serious about it then I don't see any reason to waste your time with it.

>>2825027
I see your point. I'll try art electives for my first semester and go full tryhard mode and see if things work out.

>>2825027
to add to that, sorry for asking dumb questions, im just getting nervous for university haha

>>2825048
>>2825058
It's only your first semester? Well, if you've made it into a university, your work ethic must not be so bad. It's just important to be on top of stuff before the midterms/finals when stress hits you all at once. Why do you want to take art for anyways? You say you have a strong interest, but you still had to question your choices.

>>2825063
I draw and paint throughout highschool. I did pretty well but yeah I know its highschool it doesn't really mean anything, and I did well in maths & physics too so I decided a bach-science was alright for me. I took a gap half year (since I'm an international student going to an australian university and aussie uni's have inverse semester timings). I did a part time job and all that to do something with my free time, but that can't really keep me occupied for 6 months. I discovered /ic/ and that rekindled my hobby to do art, and since I had so much free time, the hobby basically became self-teaching (I bought anatomy books, listened to the whole levelup!, practiced at least 4 hours a day,etc). Maybe I spent a bit too long on /ic/ and started thinking learning alone ain't so bad; which probably why I am being so questioning why bother taking electives on something I can eventually do myself (In Hindsight, that's a really cocky way of thinking). But on the other hand more /arting/ can't go wrong. Typing it all out, the answer becomes kind of obvious. T-thanks for being better than my high school counselor, /ic/

>want character to wear a black outfit
>it doesn't show any form

How can I get around this?

>>2825104
What do you mean by it doesn't show any form? Do you not have enough contrast?

>>2825108
Alright /ic/ I have a question about what path to take to get better.
I'm pretty sure you've heard it before but basically I've been into art since I could hold a pencil and spent most of my life just sketching, or creating pieces for school assignments.

The only formal art instruction I've had is through programs in middle and high school, but I always slacked off and now I feel like getting back into art more seriously.

I'd like to get better at drawing figures and environments, but where do I start if I want to improve?
gestures?
anatomy?
observational drawing?

>>2825161
Yes, you should learn how to draw figures and environments if you want to get better at them. Yes, you have to learn all of those, because they're just a package kind of thing, you can't ignore one. Aside from that, what kind of figures and environments are we talking here? Are we talking like character designs and environmental paintings that tell a story? That's a little different.

>>2825170

>are we talking like character designs and environmental paintings that tell a story?
yeah, this is my priority but I don't mind learning other stuff too.

Sorry I didn't state my question properly.

I know that I'll need to learn gesture, anatomy, observational drawing, proportions, etc.
What I'm asking is if there's a particular order I need to learn them in.
Can I learn gesture before anatomy? Or does one come before the other? and is there an optimal prioritization to learn them with.

>>2825183

If you want to trek on your own:

You'll want this: https://my.mixtape.moe/dyiars.pdf
And this: http://hubpages.com/art/drawing-FAQ

If you want a more formalized study system with instructors:

https://artrenewal.org/pages/ateliers.php
http://fzdschool.com/
https://synstudio.ca/

>>2825195
Also http://www.artcenter.edu/

>>2825195
Thanks, this helps a ton.

>>2813729
This isn't really the place to ask but since I don't want to start a thread about it, can someone here record Yoshikazu Hamada's streams?

I've been doing it a bit through 2016 and sharing it but unfortunately there's been a military draft so I can't do it anymore since I'm barely home.
I've missed so many pages and covers, it pisses me off
All you need:
>OBS
>enough memory (external hard-drives are obscenely cheap nowadays)
>a PC you can keep on for a long time
>Internet
use Window Capture on Yoshi's stream (LiveFC2 is way better than his Youtube) and just keep the window open till it's over. If you want to do other stuff have it open alone on a window and put the player size to "Fit Browser" instead of "Fullscreen".


I plan on writing a script that automatically checks his RSS feed and records his stream while it's on, and getting an NAS to store/share them eventually but that'll have to wait because of the fucking draft.
So in that time, can someone take over for me?

My goal is draw like leinil yu. After i nail down the Fundamentals can i copy him or it is wrong? I feel like its wrong to copy other artists style...

>>2825542
You can do whatever you want as long as you aren't tracing and saying it's yours.

Am I right in saying that my gestures suck because I haven't studied anatomy enough to know how each part of the body flows? I think sometimes I get too much stuck on borders too, but I think my main problem could be anatomy and I wanted to hear some more experienced opinion.

Why can't I understand eye sockets? Help

>>2826682
Maybe you don't know what a skull looks like. I was rendering a cast one day and instantly realized that the eye sockets is that huge ass space on the skull. It's like so obvious, but didn't realize until then.

My wacom just wont work anymore. I have fiddled with new drivers for weeks now. I have tried tons of different shit everyday.

Is there an option to repair these things? Or to have them diagnosed/tested? I wouldn't want to get another one if it's fixable

>>2826688
Yeah, call Wacom.

>>2826692

I was googling around but I usually never rely on these things... they never want to help you. I guess I will call em'. Maybe they have some weird solution I haven't tried yet

>>2826688
you mean it doesn't even recognize it anymore? have you tried a different wire?

>>2826699

No I haven't. The tablet lights up and Windows recognizes it as a device, and my Wacom center recognizes it. My pen just doesn't move the cursor at all. I have tried re installing, new drivers, restarting the wacom service...

I don't think it would be a faulty pen would it? Guess i have to buy a new one and a new cable just in case

>>2826702
it's not the cable then. you should call wacom before buying a new pen, especially if it's still under warranty.

How do you draw poses like this? Or at least how do you find them.

The only reference I can find online from pose packs and sites feel kind of stiff or are for very specific

>>2827073
From imagination or really look for references. Or ask someone to pose for you. You can even pose for yourself.

I remember there was a chart like this, but with canine/furry heads. Would anyone have it?

It wasn't as detailed as pic related (ie. had the features), just the basic construction of it. Cheers.

How do I stop being insecure about my art?

>>2827507
It will go away the more you improve.

My art has reached the point where I can now 'think' in 3D, sculpting my forms as I draw and making my drawings look a bit more 3D. Also, no more chicken-scratching. I've only been drawing seriously for two years as of this January.

My question is, do things get 'easier' from this point, or am I at risk of plateauing? Should I just keep drawing as I have?

>>2827673
Things only get easier if you let them get easier. If you want to work hard though, it'll never be easy. Anyways, why worry about whether or not it gets easier? Just draw and enjoy it.

>>2827679
Thank you, although I think I didn't make my point clear.

I meant does 'improving' get any easier? I'm worried about stagnating, though the act of drawing is more fun now.

>>2827683
In a sense, it already has if you aren't a beginner anymore. You understand what to do to get better and will constantly see more ways to get better. A beginner struggles because they are lost and unsure of how to improve, so they do whatever they want until they are at a high enough level to understand what the next steps are. As long as you know what to work on, improving is already streamlined pretty well. Although, you say you're worried about stagnating like you haven't stagnated yet. That's kind of impressive. I will say that you will stagnate, it's inevitable, but whether or not you find a way around that wall is what really matters. So when the day comes, will you give up or continue on with all you've got?

Why does everyone on artstation use the crying laughing emoji all the time in every post and description? Is it secret art pro lingo?

>>2827697
It's a really good emoji. That's all there is to it.

>>2827695
Thank you very much!

Does someone have a pdf of those books ?
https://www.amazon.com/Framed-Perspective-Vol-Technical-Storytelling/dp/1624650309
https://www.amazon.com/Framed-Perspective-Vol-Technical-Characters/dp/1624650325/ref=pd_sbs_14_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=X05GK4DXGBK4XSY7FF0Y

Someone know what he is doing to colour like this?
https://youtu.be/pDZg3lCd9XI
starts at 10:43

I'm having trouble adapting to digital. Sometimes I start to chicken scratch, which doesn't happen on physical media. Are there any videos or list of tips that could help?

>>2827950
What is this black magic
How did he turn value into color

Hope this question belongs here.

I tried playing around with Photoshop CC 14.00,
but for some reason my brushes seem very aliased.
Or is it just my shit drawing technique?

Can any of you tell me if this looks normal?

>>2827957

>>2827950
It's a gradient map.

Is it worth doing Bargue plates using comparative measurment? I don't have an easel to set up a print next to some paper.

Do Bargue plates require sight-size or I'll still reap the benefits of doing Bargues with comparitive measurment?

How do I get better at using proper values for shading ambient and cast shadows, along with getting the angle of the light and the shadow to be consistent throughout a scene?

is it necessary to learn the skellington? I get the basics like simplified ribcage, pelvis, spine, clavicles and scapulae the rest I just build the muscles on shapes. Is this fine?

How can one use patreon for loli/shota without fearing of being b&?

is pen sensitivity that important? im just getting into digital painting and i want to know. i draw a lot traditionally but im not used to the pen sensitivity thing, its weirding me out. what do

>>2813729
can someone please tell me how the fuck can I change mouse-key shortcuts in photoshop

Why do brushes feel so much better with lowered flow? It's hard to put into words, but I suddenly feel like I have much more control over the brush and the edges it makes when I lower the flow.

>>2828076
it's an extra dimension of expressiveness for your strokes, and with the right brush settings it helps mimic certain real world utensils.
how is it weird to you?
most likely you just need to get used to it.

Besides Peter han dynamic bible, is there any book that teaches this construction method?

>>2828680
Scott Robertson's How to Draw
Krenz does that
KGJ too
FZD School of Design does
Art Center does

Anyways, the important thing is Scott Robertson's book is the best resource and everyone claims it is as well. Everything else they do is hands on, so books do not exist.

>>2828683
Burt scott robertson teaches how draw humans? Im looking for a book that uses this method for drawing anatomy.

Im a complete beginner that wants to learn how to draw to make video games. Is it important i start with physical media or should i start right up with digital stuff with a tablet?

>>2828709
You can do whatever, as long as you draw. Although in the game industry, it's important to be able to draw on paper because you can't always be around a computer.

https://youtu.be/k3Al7QAS89s
https://youtu.be/PoQBxYt2sVQ

Use this channel to help you. These two podcasts are pretty good.

>>2828712
So it's not a waste of my time to learn physical stuff if i want to make game assets like sprite art, vector art, and 3d models? That's good to hear. I was concerned that the skills and tools required are too different to translate well. I'll check these videos out

>>2828717
Nothing is a waste of time as long as you're working towards something, yeah. Doing nothing and stagnating is bad though. But nah, the skills and tools you use are universal, they're called fundamentals and your eyes.

Am I the only one having problems with SAI's undo?

Set ctrl+z to one of the stylus buttons, when I press twice on it the software just goes to "move" tool after one undo, it's like it can't recognize the clicks. Works perfectly in other software, but not SAI.

>>2828744
this would happen to me in sai and photoshop. i can't remember how i fixed it because i've moved to csp and it works fine, but maybe you can assign undo to a single key instead and map that to your stylus.

is it important to hold your tool vertical when drawing?

>>2828782
No. It is not, but definitely don't let the wood scrape the paper if you're using pencils. It'll scratch the paper and leave terrible looking marks. Do try out different hand positions though. Some work better for different techniques such as rendering, it feels better to hold the pencil near the end and at a diagonal instead of flat on the side.

>>2828703
please respond anon.

Where can I get a copy of drawing on the right side of the brain fourth edition for free?

>>2828864
Google it for the pdf

>>2828869
I found a copy of the third edition but I am worried I will be losing information. Is there somewhere I can compare the third and fourth editions. I'm currently reading through the introduction and she is talking about how much the book has been changed between the first and third edition.

>>2828703
>>2828848

Nothing specifically on figure drawing by him, sorry.

Can a beginner start with rapid viz and peter han dynamic bible?

How can I improve line confidence using a non-display pen tablet?

>>2829059
If your art program has a pen stabilizer you could use that

>>2829059
Get a bigger tablet

first time drawer; i have 2 questions:

1-i'd like to go digital but i only have a mouse. is there any good technique and software to end up with decent stuff or should i just stick to pencil?

2-i decided to give drawing another chance because of this YT video i randomly saw on my suggestion feeds : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ufz75UvHs

this guy advocates that people with no natural artistic intuition, like me, are better off learning placement shapes and proportion by drawing the same thing 100 times experimenting with little changes until they find what feels right to them.
is that a sound concept?

it sounds cool for me because last time i followed some tutorials i was left with a strong " now draw the rest of the motherfucking owl by yourself" feeling after setting up the circles.

I'm an absolute beginner and I've always wanted to draw stupid anime shit for games or my own self-satisfaction, but I just can't keep up with the books and end up giving up every time I try to learn the fundamentals. Don't worry, I know they're important and that stylization is something I'll learn much later.

Anyway, I tried doing Keys to Drawing a year ago and looking back on my failure I realized that my problem is that I simply don't know "how to study". Like, alright, I'm done with an exercise, now what? Do I continue with the next one or repeat it until I drop? I got halfway through it but I really had no idea what I was doing.

Sorry for the autism, but I'd like someone to push me in the right direction and teach me how to study, practice, and grind correctly so I can finally become a decent artist at least ;_;

>>2829073
>first time drawer

>>2829094
Would put my wares in.

>>2829093
all it takes to study is apply what you learned to what you want to do and iterate on it.

What's the purpose of studying the asaro head?

>>2829093
>Do I continue with the next one or repeat it until I drop? I got halfway through it but I really had no idea what I was doing.
You do what you want to do.
- Make some stupid animu uguu bitches or some videogame "concept-art" or fanart or whatever.
- Finish it, look at it, find what could be improved, find what you think is a weakness, post on /ic/ for critique.
- on the feedback and your feeling, see what excercises to do and what areas you need to improve
- rinse and repeat

Key is continual refinement of some actual product, just doing excercises will make your hand steadier or you'll get better with the medium, but if you're applying them, you'll get better a lot faster.

>>2829127
To study the planes of the head.

>>2816122
>>>/s/

Is this the right board to ask for art recommendations? If yes, Im looking for 1900 Fin de siécle painting/posters with people having fun - parties, balls, cafes etc. Any suggestions?

>>2821011
How legit is this? Is it worth following?

Is there a recommended book on figure drawing that covers well gesture, how pose is balanced, how spine behaves, etc.?

I have "Figure drawing. Design and invention" and I love it, but it seems to cover mostly what body consists of and how individual parts behave, but not the body as a whole.

>>2829711
Vilpu drawing manual, George bridgman The human machine, and you probably don't want this one, but I love it. Walt Stanchfields Drawn to life, really amazing gesture work more towards caricaturing the figure and acting through the model.

My problem is more to do with motivation. I'm 21, dropped out of community college awhile ago was majoring in Animation. I tried to pick up the slack, working 45.5 hours/week for the past 4 months on well.. Mostly industrial design, fundamentals, side projects, animation, anything books could teach me... I recently gave up about 2 weeks ago. I can barely get in half and hour now.. I saw huge improvements, but for whatever reason I can't get back into the groove.

I tried getting inspired, getting books, relaxing, trying to understand what got me into drawing in the first place, but nothing seems to be working. Nothing is going particularly wrong in my life to stop me from drawing either so.. Yea. Not too sure what to do from here.

Besides the ones in the sticky, what are some good landscape drawing books?

Where can I find a good resource/book for learning about the fat pads of the face? I heard scott eaton's facial anatomy course covers this, but I can't find it and I can't find any other alternative resource.

>>2829711
I'll step away from the memebooks and recommend you any book by Gotfried Bammes. THey're godlike in explaining just the things you asked for.

>>2829768
Carlson's Guide to Landscape Painting: John F. Carlson

>>2829750

Seems to me you just burned out a little after pushing yourself too hard. Switch things up with drawing what appeals to you no strings attached; if it's anime titties then by all means draw anime titties.

What's the best material for watercolour palette?

I have a plastic one but the water tends to form little beads of water, which can get annoying.

>>2830021
ceramic

What is measuring with your eyes? How do you do it?

>>2830122
You use an imaginary ruler.

>>2830123
Yeah super helpful thanks. Fuck this shithole.

>>2830129
>he thinks I'm joking

>>2830122
That's pretty much what >>2830123 said
You look at something and try to estimate it's proportions, e.g. how long are the person's legs in comparison to the height of their figure? How wide are their shoulders in comparison to their head?
Obviously you don't try to estimate the height of a person in centimeters or something
Sometimes you can grab a pencil or an actual ruler and use them as an aid (pretty much every beginner book explains the procedure)

Anyone taking watts online thing? How legit is it? It's hard to find any reviews.

Anyone know what brush/brush pack this is?

What muscle is this? Or is it the ribs?

>>2830823
its suppose to be serratus muscle for the ribs, but in most cases you dont see those muscles on the back like that. theyre covered by the latissimus dorsi

>>2830823
Those are the 12th, 11th, and 10th ribs.

What does it mean when you never get a critique in a critique thread?

>>2813729
What could be the best solution for an ink spillover on a drawing (sand eraser, acrylic white paint, or a homemade remedy)?
Or should I just redraw it all again?
(Pic related)

This board may not be the correct place to ask this but whatever.

What should I focus on if I want to become an architect? I know perspective is in there but idk what else.

Having problems with photoshop. Whenever I try to make a clipping mask or lock transparent pixels I encounter this problem. If the selected pixels aren't 100% opaque then any paint over them can't be 100% opaque as seen in this picture. Does anyone know how to fix this? Is there something stupid I'm missing? Thanks.

>>2831196
On costs, so you don't drive engineers up the wall.

Everything I draw is skewed a bit to the right (I'm right handed), which I only see when I flip the canvas. How do I train myself to draw correctly without flipping the drawing?

>>2831308
Draw everything a bit skewed to the left.

>>2831310

>>2831313
Also watch your proportions if it's really that bad. I don't draw anything skewed to the right and I'm right handed. It's usually just proportions are out of line.

>>2830110

I see.

I'd rather something that's portable and durable, unless there are cases around that have a ceramic mixing slot but is well protected?

So I'm in a big city and have a lot of free time to draw. It's my first time doing life drawing on the streets, suggestions? What should I draw to improve? How detailed should be my subjects, on what parts should I focus? Thanks

>>2831334
You can draw whatever you want as long as you draw at all. Detail is pretty important, it trains your eyes to actually see instead of simplifying like the brain always does. So do try to shoot for being very detailed even though you know you'll hit a limit. Any part is better than no parts, so get at it and have fun. What's your goal really is the question that should be asked. Drawing from life is somewhat pointless if you aren't striving for anything.

>>2831336
Thanks for the reply. Being a beginner I just want to train my eyes a bit with some life drawing

>>2831318
enamel palettes still bead but are better than plastic. ceramic really is the best for mixing, but they don't come in portable cases. you can bring small dish around with you if you don't want to compromise.

but from my experience if you use a plastic palette long enough, the material wears out and it beads less. i've also noticed that the sakura koi pocket box doesn't bead as much as other plastic sets.

Can patrons on patreon see my real name at some point or can I stay anonymous? Asking for reasons.

>>2814803
You use quickposes

Which is more preferable, SAI or Clip Studio?

>>2831492
Clip if you're doing manga.
SAI if you just don't care and like to sketch and paint without editting much.

>>2831196
There's actually a non-trivial problem of making a building that won't collapse under it's own weight, or because of wind or ground motion, but as far as I understand it's a task for civil engineers and not architects

>>2827979
BUT HOW IS HE USING THE GRADIENT MAP LIKE THAT ANON

spoonfeed me im desperate

>>2831544
Funny thing is how I watched that video and he explains that he can explain it to you if you watch his other videos. Then tells you it's on his gumroad. It's like the answer was in the video and anon just somehow didn't reach that point even though it's literally a minute after he starts painting.

>>2831196
read as many books on architecture as you can. skim through francis d.k. ching's books for a start, like 'form, space, and order.' this depends on what school you're going to, but ask seniors what programs they use the most and teach yourself how to use them with tutorials online. learn to use 3d programs (sketchup, rhino), how to render (vray, 3dsmax), post process (photoshop), and layout (illustrator). you also need solid drawing skills so really go through scott robertson's books. good luck.

Can I learn anatomy using only bridgman books?

>>2831559
There's no need to limit yourself. But, the answer is no, because you obviously need to do other stuff to learn anatomy as well. It's a life long process, it's not like math where you just learn addition and move on.

>>2831559
no, but it sure wouldn't hurt to read them

Is it ok to start learning drawing from Norling's Perspective, or should I read Lummis/Dodson first?

>>2831564
It's okay to do whatever you want kiddo. You need to be able to give permission to yourself really.

>>2831565
But why everyone around ic tells that Dodson/Lummis should be the first step in a world of drawing? And only after that you should start particular topics like Perspective/Anatomy?

>>2831568
/ic/ echoes what the people of the past have said, but the truth is you can do whatever you want as long as you are improving upon the fundamentals.

>>2831564
These are different subjects (well, Loomis covers a shitton of subjects), you can study them in any order
You need to understand 1 and 2 point perspective though, but it can be summarized on a single page

>>2831568
>But why everyone around ic tells that Dodson/Lummis should be the first step in a world of drawing?
Because /ic/ in a place where anonymous people give you advice, so you should analyze every advice on your own

There's no specific order on how you should study things because drawing invokes multiple skills and result depends on them all

How should I cope with the fact I will never make it?

>>2831584
Accept it and move on.
Why linger on it?

>>2831586
My life is empty and I don't see anything else interesting to do.

>>2831590
Okay, what's your goal?

>>2831592
I wanted to draw humans getting tortured in the most horrible ways, and loli rape, but I think I'll just commit a newsworthy suicide.

I downloaded all the books and I've read a bit and looked through them but then what am I supposed to do?

Where is a good place to start drawing the basic forms of the body for figure drawing?

I've been drawing nothing but heads for ages that I'd like to move on and draw people with actual bodies.

What does the "normal" drop down box in SAI right next to where you change your brush tip shape do? I understand there is one for layers but why is there a 2nd one?

>>2832072
nevermind I'm retarded

>>2832003
Practice to solidify the knowledge

I got a 12 set of Colbein watercolours.

Included in the set is:
Vermillion Hue
Crimson Lake
Burnt Umber
Burnt Sienna
Yellow Ochre
Permanent Yellow Light
Viridian Hue
Permanent Green No.1
Cobalt Blue Hue
Prussian Blue
Black
White

I've got very little experience with paint mixing/watercolours, is this a diverse enough palette for good utility or should I look into any added colours?

What kind of affordable(<$0.10) paper can I use black inks on and get sharp lines without feathering? I know I want something smooth and maybe coated but I'll be using markers and brushes so I want to avoid streaking so there should be a tiny bit of absorbency but not enough to sacrifice crispy sharp lines. Does anything like this exist?

I'm not a huge fan of Loomis' method for constructing heads. Which other artists/books would you recommend for heads specifically?

>>2832778
The skull

>>2832468
it's alright, but you might want to get ultramarine and pthalo blue. you generally need a warm and cool version of the basic hues. this site is pretty informative: http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/water.html

>>2832782

Thanks anon.

>>2832468
The best watercolor starter colors are black, Quanicridone Red/Alizarin Crimson, cadmium yellow, viridian green, cobalt blue, and ultramarine blue. Primary colors should be most chromatic because when mixed, they turn neutral. By choosing the brightest, you get more range of colors.

The reason for two blue colors is that cobalt blue is naturally lighter and ultramarine blue is naturally darker and deeper. You will see the difference in colors the more you use them.

Alizarin crimson is a cooler red, while quinacridone red is more of what you call red. They are both red colors, but you only need one.

Burnt Umber, Burnt Sienna are redundant brown colors easily mixed by other colors.

White is not necessary, you make colors paler by using more water to let more of the white paper show through.

Vermillion hue is a warm red, and crimson lake is a cool red that can be mixed using red paint, yellow paint, or blue paint. You just need one red color.

You can get yellow ochre by mixing permanent yellow with something brown.

Viridian and permanent green are redundant. Viridian is a cool green, but you can make it a very bright green by adding some yellow. Or you can just use permanent green.

I have no experience with prussian blue. Looking at the color online, which appears very dull a muted, I don't think it is as versatile as ultramarine blue.

Brownish/neutral colors can be mixed by toning down some of the primary colors. As a beginner, don't buy these colors. The exception is for experienced painters who find themselves mixing the same paint over and over again.

Buy additional colors when you need them. For example, when I tried to paint bright pool water, cobalt blue and ultramarine wasn't intense enough, so I bought helio cerulean paint that matched the color of the pool. Cases like this are rare and the paint I mentioned should cover most ranges.

>>2832779
I... guess that makes sense. There's a sphere, and a shape for the mandible. I was more talking lining up features for the face along with the overall head but I could just draw skulls until it clicks?

Ýo fags, I'm looking for an artist who's name I can't quite remember. I think it was a Korean or Japanese dude who had these crazy distorted drawings. Everybody was gaunt and thin. Kind of Egon Schiele-esque. I think he drew a lot of characters in blue tracksuits or something, at least that's what I think. Bit reminiscent of fashion illustration.

I know that's not a lot to go on, but hopefully one of you knows.

What should I do after practicing line control and primitives? I'm stuck at "Draw the fucking owl" phase.

>>2833271
You should draw whatever you want. This lets you figure out the steps between 1 and 2.

>>2833272
I feel my fear of mistakes is holding me back from just diving in.

>mfw I don't see any mistakes on my lineart (even if I work a good amount of time on it) until I put flat colours on it
Why is this happening? How should I fix it not losing extra time on fixing lines?

>>2833472
Depends on what kind of mistakes you mean.

>>2833475
Just a minor changes like slighty moved part of ear. I Flipped canvas multiple times and didn't see it and when I finally end lineart I saw little problems. I guess in future I must do some gray shading under sketch or something.
I don't usually do lineart, mostly I paint so this frustrating me a bit.

>>2833487
If they're minor, then whatever. It's not like everyone gets it perfect the first time around. From drawing to painting, there's always a bit of fixing and changes here and there. It's just how how the process is. If you want to know how to avoid this, it comes with experience, so just continue to draw and paint that way, you'll be able to predict an event like this in case it happens again in the future.

>>2833492
Thanks anon. That make me feel better and gave me hope

What kind of posture do you guys have when you draw or paint? Is it sometimes better to stand than sit?

>>2834299
I lay on my back and draw from my bed.

>>2834303
Seriously?

looking for Advanced Lighting with Sam Nielson - some anon posted it a while ago, it was watchable online, but i was a fucking retard and did not save it
pls halp

>>2834308
sure, that's https://schoolism.com/

>>2834331
"Fundamentals of Lighting with Sam Nielson" consists of nine video lectures presented over 14 weeks.

soo does this stand for only critiqued sessions or am i not able to lets say grind the whole course in a week?

>>2834331
btw i cant tell if you are being ironic or am i being misleading - it was uploaded somewhere for free, i'm willing to pay for art stuff and i do from time to time, but my resources are limited so i'd rather spend that money on books for now..

>>2834337
What /ic/ does not understand, because you're idiots ( I understand that), is that schoolism isn't so much about the actual lecture, but the critiques. Schoolism classes are critique classes and you learn far more information in the critiques than the actual lectures because you see many examples in various styles from your classmates. That is why pirating is such a waste of time when you have the entire critique library for only $15---a God damn steal if you ask me.

I want to do streams, but I have a problem. When I stream for 10 minutes, my program starts to be laggy. Don't matter if it's sai or photoshop. I don't lose frames on stream. Could it be the problem of my HDD disk? I have 8 gb RAM, Radeon 4600 series 1GB, intel core2 Quad Q9550 2.83Ghz

>>2834349
You need 16gm ram and an i5 and a better card than that if you want to do any kind of video editing/streaming. In other words your system is shit.

>>2834356
Thanks for answer. I don't play vidya so I didn't think I need much better hardware.

>>2834303
Can someone verify this? It seems like your hands would fall asleep.

>>2834363
anon probably is meming you

>>2834366
That's what I thought. :(

Wish I could get a real answer.

>>2834347
meh, you bought me, im going to subscript

>>2834370
If it's more comfortable to you to stand when you're painting or drawing, then do this. I don't think I can really help you because my spine is distorted in many ways, kek.

>>2834373
Thanks. And I'm sorry about your condition anon.

How od I open a photo in PS while having some space near it to copy it? I used manga studio and it was quite easy to do it, in PS if I "open" a photo it will open it in a new page and there won't be any space to draw near it.

So we know that colors have separate moods. However, I'm wondering what different values/saturations of those colors mean. Why is it that a regular green is related to nature but another type of green would give a creepy vibe when paired with a dark color. Why is does a pale blue give a different color than a dark blue.

How do I make a faded color of something? Like when you are painting something in the distance.

Is someone going to make a new thread? Should I?

>>2834430
Yes please

>>2834505
Sent >>2834522

>>2834430
Who gives a shit? No one ever answers anything here. This is the most retarded general I've ever seen.

>>2834832
whatever dude