/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

If you aren't talented*

>>2819324
>I just learned today that I am a complete failure, so let me go on /ic/ and project!

>>2819324
I agree with that completely. Unless you dont want professional work, you have to get to certain level of skill after a few years.

No it means you suck at studying and arent pushing yourself.

Why do retards like to assume that everything is caused by genetics?

Lucky for us it's easy to learn talent.

>>2819353
So they can feel like it's not their own fault.

>>2819324
God fucking damn it these posts ar so fucking annoying. Quit wasting time posting this shit, and promote your artwork instead, Jesus

>>2819353
Next thing you will tell me is that your looks arent defined by genetics.

Every fucking thing is defined by genetics, deal with it.

>>2819369
this, so much this.

>>2819393

yeah, thats why you are fat.

>>2819324
You're either talented or you dedicate a iny fraction more time in the long term scope of things in order to perfect your interest.

>dont worry op there's still hope for you too.

I'm glad you decided to free up space in the job market , OP. Don't sweat it, though--being a Starbucksboy isn't all that bad. And if you work hard enough you'll soon become a site manager.

>>2819393
>>2819324

>I'm such a fucking failure.
>But it's not my fault lol.
>It's GENETIC TRAITS.

>>2819431
You joke, but it's actually quite nice once you reach there and then begin to own multiple sites.

talent is real in the sense that everyone is born with different aptitudes. the people you see who never improve either don't have the mental capabilities for art or don't have access to resources, which doesn't really count for much. look how many great artists grew up poor as shit but still became the best of the best. as the saying goes: cream rises to the top. even if someone is born in a third world shithole and only have access to basic tools their innate abilities will always make them stand out from their peers and will improve a lot faster than the others who don't have the same aptitudes.

>>2819324
Not gonna make it.

>>2819324
That's because most don't realize it's about thoughtful practice, not just repetition. Would you rather bang at a wall with your fist to get through it, or find a way around it?

>>2819324
Suck my dick, motherfucker

>>2819481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P44vhvPGO6Y

>>2819457

This is actually a really good comparison. Those no progress failures who whine about talent ARE just like fat people who say they can't lose weight because of genetics...

>>2819324
Is this pasta?

>>2819324
You're just lazy. Draw.

>>2819324
>if you been practicing for more than 3 years and you're still shit, then chances are you'll be shit forever, quit wasting your time.
Good thing I never thought like you or I would have offed myself.

>>2819487

Yes. All garbage threads on this board are pasta.

Just hide and report.

>>2819324
These words this defeatism. It doesn't come from the mouths of the successful it comes from bitter individuals who perhaps weren't studying all that well. We can all lift ourselves from ignorance and learn to be better artists and better people. When everything gets hard at the end of the day the only thing you'll have left is hope, a vision that you want and must achieve. Don't lose sight.

>>2819324

I have always thought that the people who learn the fastest are just simply using the right learning methods that work best for them. Some people seem naturally talented because their process of learning fit for them from the start. If you have wrong learning methods, it can really slow you down but it doesn't make it impossible. If you really want to improve, you can do it. But for some people it just requires more work because you have to change/correct your wrong learning methods.

I came to realise since going to college that 80% of people don't practice properly literally at all

>>2819393
lmao you fucked up your bait here

next time don't say something as absurd (or if you do try to disguise or dance around it so people won't catch on)

>>2819560
That's why the chances of making it are so high.

>>2819560
kinda funny since most of those who don't practice at all come out rather decent.

But of course, those who practice the most come out on top. Makes sense.

Dedicated talent believers all share 1 thing in common. They know very little about art.

The more you learn about art the more you disbelieve in talent, because you stop seeing "magic" and start seeing technical attributes and good or bad practice.

There's a lot more than trying to add up one or two statistics.

>>2819393
> ligameme

This board isn't even about learning about art anymore it's a fucking mutagenic flipper baby of /pol/, /fit/ and /r9k/

Trying to be a contrarian, mean spirited motherfucker isn't going to help anyone and it sure as fuck isn't going to help you achieve your ends, that is, of course, if your ends are anything else besides being a completely contemptible misanthrope who thinks they are so fucking ironic and funny.

Shut the fuck up, go outside. Spend your time better than trying to be /ic/'s biggest schadenfreude addicted asshole.

Yeah I'm probably mad, I just

Feel bad for OPs of threads like this.

>>2819666

The OP is a troll.

These threads are made by the discord cunts on an almost daily basis.

>>2819405
>>2819457
>>2819567
>>2819639
I am actually very skinny and got a rare disease that doesnt allow me to get fatter naturally. I can get fatter but I would have to work really, really hard to get something other people got just like that.

Now imagine that with drawing. Sure everybody can learn it, but some people have to work very fucking hard to get what other got just like that. AND THEN WORK EVEN HARDER TO SURPASS THEM.

But I guess hey, you dont know how its like to be paralyzed waist down or be a guy with down syndrome. Its easy to talk shit about other people because you have it better. You dont even care about those that were actually treated like shit by whoever made them that way. LIFE IS EASY FOR YOU, THEREFORE IT HAS TO BE FOR EVERYBODY.

>everybody can draw because i can do that lol!

>>2819707
Worst r9k bait ever.

>>2819711
>bait
Right, next thing you will tell me that disabilities dont exist and its all in our heads.

>I bait on /ic/

>>2819718
>>2819324
>Now imagine that with drawing. Sure everybody can learn it, but some people have to work very fucking hard to get what other got just like that. AND THEN WORK EVEN HARDER TO SURPASS THEM.

It's bait because you're bitching about having to work more than other people.

Tough shit. Grow up.

>>2819324
>>2819393

Hory shit, is it bait time already

really tho OP, if you wanted to actually improve you'd start trying and stop posting

forever

>>2819324
Hey, I agree with this unironically. I even know someone with whom I am in touch to this day and I can say that even though he was drawing in a very autistic manner (hours and hours per day), his work hasnt been improving much. I wont tell him that going at that pace is basically worthless but someone should do that anyway.

>>2819707

I'm taking the bait because you're so juvenile, it hurts.

You're trying to compare art to something like basketball. Depending on the skill, physical gifts are going to play more or less of a role in your level of success.

Being anything less than a six-footer will hamstring your ability to be a professional in basketball. Not to mention, the activity is deeply rooted in athleticism.

Art is much more like creative writing. Anyone can make a few strokes of a pencil or string a few sentences together. There's no denying that some individuals have a natural intuition for these things and may not have to "work" as hard to reach a skill threshold. However, that is not to say that other individuals who lack this inherent foundation cannot achieve the same or a greater threshold. Art and writing require a structured, sensible approach to learning (i.e., studying from professional works and practicing for the sake of understanding fundamentals) rather than haphazardly making works and hoping they're good.

At least in art, you have a fighting chance to bust your ass and go from nothing to something with continued diligence. This is a rarity in comparison to other things where hard work offers no guarantees of success.

>>2819723
It's the best place to be. Any hobby-oriented board because people are invested and are less likely to sniff out bait and more likely to vehemently defend what they enjoy doing.

This thread is supposed to trigger beginners that aren't smart enough to realize what it is yet are deep enough into drawing to have a reaction to it

>>2819732
>This is a rarity in comparison to other things where hard work offers no guarantees of success.
Nah, drawing doesnt guarantee success aswell.

>>2819741
>this is what some people actually believe

>>2819743
Have you heard a term "starving artists"? No? Fuck off then you fucking amateur.

>>2819747
>"starving artists"
Literally a meme made up by normies to try and scare you. It's almost impossible to starve nowadays, world hunger is barely a thing as well.

>>2819741

You didn't read my post in full, clearly.

>At least in art, you have a fighting chance to bust your ass and go from nothing to something with continued diligence.

A fighting chance is not equivalent to fully guaranteed success. But it's certainly better than trying to train endlessly for an aspiration like being a professional athlete, which has physical requirements that aren't always attainable (e.g., height) and is incredibly selective to boot.

>>2819751
> It's almost impossible to starve nowadays, world hunger is barely a thing as well

oh you poor, ignorant child. Amerifats and their knowledge of the world.

>>2819331
ahahaha I luv this. anon! nailed it.

>>2819707

>Hurr durr muh autism you can draw but I can't check ur privilege buaaahh I need talent I just want to learn without hard work buaaaaahhh!!

>>2819353
>What is the "fundamental atribution error"

>>2819758
>thinking I care about the rest of the fucking world
You fucking live in the first world or you're dead to me. You might as well not exist. You can't compete with me, I'm already better than you. This is what you call privilege, get some.

>>2819751
that's not even what it means you fuck.

>>2819769

>Mericucks thinking they are something because some of them have degrees and money.

>>2819789
he's right though.

I read a Tom Wolfe essay awhile ago. It was about E.O Wilson (a biologist) and genetic determinism and called "Sorry, but your soul just died". It was more about this new (1995) brain scan which could read your IQ than it was about art, however it's kind of related to this discussion. One argument the essay made was people are like photographs (the old ones that aren't instantaneous) in that they can either develop well or they can develop poorly, but you can't fundamentally change what they can develop into. Like, if the initial photo taken was crap, it doesn't matter how well you develop it in your dark room, it's never going to be a great photo. It can only be better or worse than what the original shot allows for. And people are the same way. If you don't have the lucky gifts of an artist, you can work really hard and get a better, but your upper limit is going to be lower than someone who is more gifted.

I think you should still always try things though and push yourself, because how else can you figure out what the extent of your talents are? Not like there is a brain scan to tell you you have the capability to be awesome at drawing.

>>2819751
you fucking retard, a starving artist term doesnt mean he is literally starving, hes just too poor to even pay for basic stuff. He cant live on his own and all that stuff.

You too would call yourself a starving artist if your earnings were lower than minimal wage

>>2819809
>Not like there is a brain scan to tell you you have the capability to be awesome at drawing.
if there was one, it would help a lot of people with saving time.

>>2819809
>Not like there is a brain scan to tell you you have the capability to be awesome at drawing.
Some people seem to think they are the brain scanner.

>>2819807


He's not. Unless he's one of THOSE few Americans, he means to the world the same as a goat fucker or a monkey born in the Brazilian jungle. He's worthless, forgettable scum.

>>2819457
Shitty meme.

Genetics determine how prone you are to food addiction. Genetics determine innate willpower to go against such cravings. Genetics determine your preference for sedentary activities. Genetics determine fucking everything. Except of course the influence of your environment, which you really can't control either.

I'd really like it if the people preaching about the infinite willpower, determination och capabilities in humans would like to show off their Greek god bodies, the millions in their bank accounts, their 10/10 gf, their Wikipedia article and last but not least their Sargent-tier artwork.

>>2819838
It took me 10 years to become a pro concept artist because i'm dumb. Willpower and determination are also to some degree genetic traits, and free will doesn't really exist - but I did it because I like it, and fuck if I let my genetics get in the way of something this important to me. If something takes someone longer to learn than others, then does it really matter if they get there in the end?

>>2819324
Kim jung gi is cool and a great at drawing and all, but work does not compel me personally. All he does is draw random shit, and because he does it almost effortlessly, people consider him an amazing artist. He's excellent at drawing, but hes not compelling whatsoever.

>>2819838

Well, some retarded fucks can't be saved and they deserve to die.

That's natural selection. That's part of life. That's realizing how much time you wasted on the retarded dream of becoming a pro artist.

That's being a fucking failure even if you worked hours and hours on carefully planned drawings that turned out to shit and you don't know why.

That's realizing that you have an actual mental disability and all the countless months of practicing were all in vain.

That's realizing that after whole years of grinding, sleep deprivation, eating cup noodles, reading Loomis over and over, practicing anatomy until you fall asleep on your desk and watching Schoolism videos ad nauseum you are still at beginner level.

There is nothing to do. You have no salvation. Art was never for you. Better quit now and avoid more years of pain. Dreams end when you wake up into the real world. Looks like those anons were right about you all along...

Oops... You actually haven't had enough practice, if any.

You're just a lazy fuck searching for shortcuts. Go draw and fuck off.

>>2819838

Being too deterministic about your life is a ticket to being fucking worthless. Genetics determine a lot, but so does mindset, and the midset of "everything is out of my control why bother" has got to be the shittiest most unproductive mindset you can possibly have.

>I'd really like it if the people preaching about the infinite willpower [strawman shit]

People shitting on people who exclusively blame their failings on genetics rather than mentality aren't boasting they have infinite willpower.

>>2819844
>then does it really matter if they get there in the end?

/ic/ will tell you it does because half of this board is obsessed with doing something 100% optimally. Counter-intuitively this concern usually paralyzes them or makes them waste endless time trying to find the "best way" to get good, but that's a digression.

If you're a late starter/slow learner you've already "lost" to other artists getting better sooner/faster, according to many autists who inhabit this board.

>>2819838

Genetics is a shitty excuse for whiny cucks to use when they're not willing to put in the effort to improve.

>>2819858
>If you're a late starter/slow learner you've already "lost" to other artists getting better sooner/faster, according to many autists who inhabit this board.
It is true though

>>2819851
>some retarded fucks can't be saved
>You're just a lazy fuck searching for shortcuts.
Wow nice hypocrisy there anon
>and they deserve to die.
By all measures, you deserve to die more than anyone else in here ;)

>>2819861

Go cry in one of our many self-pity threads because you didn't start drawing 8 hours a day when you were 10 and will consequently never reach your potential.

Why even bother with art really, anon.

>>2819844
>>2819851
>>2819852
>>2819860
Still waiting for evidence you live like you preach

>>2819865
Because I don't care that I lost, just that I'm able to be able to get this skill set.

Shitty bait thread. When they get called out they double down on the bait.

>>2819863

Just admit you are too lazy to even read the whole fucking post, retard.

>>2819866

>[Rant about muh genetics]
>No you PROVE ME WRONG.

Kill yourself non-memetically.

>>2819666
Agreed. Whether or not OP is a troll doesn't even matter.

You fucks are still wasting valuable time and mental energy you could otherwise investing honing your skills and experimenting, or learning new ideas and techniques.

>>2819868

>just that I'm able to be able to get this skill set.

If that was the goal, how the hell did you "lose"? It isn't a race, anon, there isn't a limited amount of "gud" in the world that someone will syphon away from the "losers".

>>2819871
Anon why haven't you an animation studio of your own yet?
Clearly you're just sitting on your ass shitposting all day you worthless cunt. Kill yourself post-ironically.

This board has the potential to be a pretty tight and thriving community and resource pool. All for various styles of visual art and animation. For artists of varying skill levels and interest.

Instead, because it's 4chan anons feel to need to be needlessly parasitic towards one another for the lolz. Spouting meme threads every other day.

Aside from a few threads, three is too much bullshit flooding /ic/.

>>2819324
are u referring to accuracy of a drawing or a lack of feeling/symbolism to a drawing

>>2819883
>open imageboard
>"pretty tight and thriving community and resource pool"
>Ever

>>2819868
>lost

what's the fucking point in even thinking like that? you only limit yourself before you even start.

It's not a contest m8, it's a personal climb

>>2819886
into the grave

>>2819866
That's anon's point nigga.

Don't sit around waiting for anything to justify this or that.

>>2819877

Stop with your fucking strawmen, retard.

Do you really think genetics determine if you have an animation studio or not or if you're succesful in life or not?

That's how your retarded brain works?

>>2819873
It only became my goal after I realized that I didn't really lose at all. People just made me feel like I did. Now, I just care about myself. I understand what they mean by only looking into the bowl to see that the other person has enough and not how much they have now. as well.

>>2819886
Everyone around me made it seem like a race, ain't my fault. It really did limit me and mess up my progression. People around me still treat it like a race, but I just climb at my own pace. I'm a bit slow, but I can only do what I can do, so it's alright.

>>2819866

>Still waiting for evidence you live like you preach

I literally said this
>People shitting on people who exclusively blame their failings on genetics rather than mentality aren't boasting they have infinite willpower.

So what would you like me to prove, anon? That I don't blame my failings on "genetic poor willpower"?
Because either you believe or you don't, and if you don't that's your problem, maybe your genetics told you so.

>>2819877
>>2819891
>>2819894
If factors outside of your control aren't responsible for you being such unsuccessful failures, what's there to blame?

You're clearly not trying hard enough.

>>2819898
Post your work. I'd like to see what someone living without human constraints can accomplish.

>>2819900

Factors outside your control are partially responsible, but not solely responsible, and not an excuse.

Good/bad luck can make or break an artist (and any professional, really), that has little to do with genetics. Discipline and willpower may be partially genetic, but are also within your control (and can be deliberately improved both through changes in lifestyle such as healthy eating/sleep as well as through deliberate habit forming, as routine can improve discipline).

If you draw for half an hour and then go "fuck it I wasn't born with the discipline to draw" that's you being a faggot quitter trying to find something to blame that isn't your own poor character. If you draw for half an hour and go "fuck it I'm not disciplined enough to draw because I'm a quitter with poor character" at least you're being honest with yourself, and from there you can improve yourself.

>>2819904

>I'd like to see what someone living without human constraints can accomplish.

I can't tell if you're trolling or just so fantastically illiterate you inferred the exact opposite of what I said twice.

>>2819909
>he believes in free will
You faggots never cease to amuse me. I promise the day you come knocking at my door to preach your gospel I'll hand you brew for all the good laughs.

You get the result you're disposed to get by genetics and the environment you are born into. This holds true for everything in life. There are no other things that can influence a person's inner and outer life.

>>2819821
You say this when a couple posts ago you basically implied much of the world outside of the US is just people sitting around starving.

>>2819858
"people who are better than me are just autistic!".

If you don't understand that your essentially at the back of the line if you just started recently you are completely deluded.

>>2819883
pic related

>>2819912

You probably think you've achieved some sort of fantastic insight with your fatalism, anonymous, but people have grappled with fate / determinism for centuries and the non-retarded ones realized that whether it's true or not it's still does not excuse shit behavior.

>>2819916
It's not by any measure an exceptional insight, anon. That's why it is ever so amusing to trigger plebs who can't come to terms with it.

But alright, if you insist. You may apologize for your shit behavior ITT.

>>2819913
>"people who are better than me are just autistic!".

"I must construct strawmen arguments to fight against because I struggle to comprehend the actual post!"

I said in literally the same post this particular brand of autist is generally wasting 90% of his time bitching and moaning about how he already missed his chance, or sitting in paralyzed self doubt that their practice is sub-optimal and therefore they've already lost their edge on the other autists and must desist immediately to post in the myriad regret / self-pity threads.

I have no problem with people who are better than me, I have a problem with the fucking morons who go "I didn't start when I was 10 why bother I'll never be as good as KJG!" and then proceed to spout that pathetic mindset everywhere they go to every other person trying to improve themselves. The people who treat their self improvement as a race/contest that they'll act like you lost out the gate unless you had every advantage. The jackasses who delude themselves into this idea that everyone goes on a straight upward trajectory and that if someone started before you you'll "never make it". These same people who will, strangely enough given their obsession with being "ahead", waste their days shitposting on /ic/ and losing their "edge over the competition".

This board has a lot of those retards, it gets old.

>>2819913

>you basically implied much of the world outside of the US is just people sitting around starving.

#2819758 wasn't me.

I simply don't like people without pride for their own merits.

>'Merica
>We wuz kangz
>I'm 1/8 german and therefore white
>I'm woman check ur priviledge.
>etc. etc...

Being born certain way or in certain place isn't an achievement at all.

>>2819922

There's one or more posters who keep recycling these woe-is-me threads to bait people into it and then proceed to ligameme to death.

It's a really low effort troll.

>>2819885
>>2819913
Ya'll just proving my point to be honest.

It's not even tumblr this or reddit that, fucking hell.
The board has too much trolls, memes, and negative minded asshats.

>>2819921
Go fucking draw or paint something you jackass.

You should be ashamed if trying your best to troll on 4chan is what gives you the most joy.

>>2819935

Shitposting on /ic/ is all part of God's great tapestry, anonymous. He works for a higher purpose.

>>2819935
I don't even have to troll to make people collectively shit their pants, I just have to point out basic facts about life.

>>2819887
You don't climb into a grave, smartass. You fall. or crawl

>>2819938
This is true. People will weak willpower will fall instantly.

>>2819939
Ever heard the ancient proverb, "climb down into".

>>2819938
>collectively shit their pants
lol what? you really think that highly of your trolling?

Well I'm happy for you if nothing else. All that potential going to waste though.

>>2819940
>will will will will
Spit it out will ya?

>>2819944

This thread is degeneratly samefagged.

>>2819941
Chinese proverbs can't save you. Quit making excuses

>>2819947
Neogaf.com was right. This shithole site is beyond redemption

>>2819944
I will do what I'm disposed to, just like you.

Don't just go beating yourself up too hard when you fail, kay?

>>2819952
Praying for you, baby

>>2819951

Lol now that is interesting. What the fuck would neogaf say about /ic/?

>>2819324

Couldn't agree more OP.

Cancelled my schoolism membership, sold my tablet, and threw away all of my sketchbooks.

Such a waste of time. And for what? It's completely unnecessary and serves no purpose.
Art is not needed, especially in today's society where the intellect, personality, and face reigns supreme.

To be honest, the "artistic lifestyle" seems almost like a childish endeavour at this point, and I don't mean any disrespect, but it seems like the most serious artists (asides from guys who are legit conceptartists/illustrators/porn artists but they represent a very low % of dedicated lifters) are also the people with nothing else going on in their lives.
I know this was true with me, I was biggest and most serious about drawing when I was still in uni, working only 15 hours a week, and pretty much just plucking around all the time, going out, with no real life.
To all you kids out there who are getting sucked into the comerical art , try to stop yourself.
So long as you have and maintain decent facial aesthetics, you'll be fine.
Art just not worth it.

Cheers.

>>2819959
Finally.

>>2819324
Post some examples from deviant art.

>>2819944

WITNESSED!

>>2819952
These threads do seem like some weird form of self-therapy for you. So you failed at everything you've done so far and now you finally realize that art will be no exception. Good for you, I just hope you are also predisposed to fuck off from /ic/ after you've come to terms with you being a hopeless failure.

>unpopular edgy opinion
>unpopular edgy opinion
>Hah, you guys just can't accept facts

What's sad is that I don't understand if this guy is baiting or it's just your usual /pol/tard

>>2819369
Well then man the fuck up and stop being a lazy worthless shit. The problem is always you.

>>2820193
That's beginner tier trolling. Only people that take it seriously are unaware newfags fresh from reddit.

cant yall smell a fresh, new pasta meme?

>>2819959
Take a look around you.
Chances are you're in a house.

Guess what someone designed your house. Someone designed your computer. Someone designed your clothes. You know that tablet? I'm sure there was a small team who designed the look of that.

ANYTHING that you see, touch, use has literally been someone elses design.

You know those cubicles that you're going to be stuck in for 40 years? Someone designed that too. Your favorite movie? A bunch of creative teams built that.

To say that art isn't important is to be completely ignorant to the world you exist within. Anything you interact with: the chair you sit in, the desktop UI, any game you can think of, product packages, clothes, shoes, cars, houses, weapons, utility items, utensils, your bed...Everything has been created by an artist.
Art is literally everywhere, and yet you choose to leave this world where your ideas are not only valued, but consumed by the public. Artists create trends, styles, and brands. While just developing pretty illustrations is totally fine, an artist can literally be the creator of anything. UX designers literally create experiences. It may not seem like art, but you are still creating the way someone interacts with something else.

I'm sorry you have to go, and you won't be missed. Sure artists arent going to cure cancer, nor are we going to mix chemicals together. But artists create experiences, and that alone is much more powerful in the long term.

Art is worth it, but it isn't for everyone. Peace man, go into business management or head towards med school. Art can be compared to these other professions because of the amount of training and influence it has on the world. Anything else and you'll be REALLY wasting your life.

Where's the "Cheers!"?

>>2819353
Because it's easier to blame a concept you can't even prove exists i.e. "talent"

What's easier to believe, either you aren't improving because of some immaterial concept that hasn't even been properly defined no less proven, or that you're just not learning in a way that works for you.

>>2819462
>mental capabilities for art

ambiguous, ignored accordingly

>>2819707
Your disease or whatever was proven to actually exist after years of research and countless papers and experiments proving it's a real thing with well defined symptoms and causes that distinguish it from other similar illnesses.

The concept of "talent" has not been so much as even properly defined to a level that can even be tested to see if it exists. I have not taken into account diverse learning methods neither do you know anything about these failures stories

Next time you try and push an argument, avoid false equivalency. And don't bother guilt tripping people. You sound like a baby and I don't feel sorry for you in the slightest.

>>2819324
>You think most professional artists studied loomis for decades before they "git gud" ?
Yes. They. Do.

But you only know what counts as good after a couple years of studying. Once you get kinda good, you realize how good the greats really were.

Only lazy western people think that there is a thing called talent.

>>2821216
>implying I don't remember all those anime where the MC talks about talent
You can't fool me, anon.

It's funny how much things can change in your mind. When I was little drawing was just something I did. I loved doing it and it was fun and free. It made me feel good. Nowadays I just find it kind of depressing. I guess that's a symptom of me spending too much time here.

>>2821239
Mindset is super important to living life. Don't ever let other people dictate how to live it or else you'll suffer for all eternity.

>>2820610
Being smart enough to understand the concepts and execute them.

>>2819324
friendly reminder that if your idea of a profesional artist its just drawing better looking pictures then you will never make it as a real artist, at most youll be some company little bitch.

ITT: people who don't have the spark hopelessly trying to maintain the illusion that they could become something.

I don't understand how some of you feel depressed about drawing. For me, drawing is a fun time and puts me at ease.
Sure, some of my drawings would suck in final and I get little upset after minutes of observing but I brush it off and learn from my mistakes.