/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

changed some stuff, realized bow in left hand + axe in right hand makes no sense
also the legs were too short

the bow is pretty lazy, but it's a concept for a game where I was thinking the weapons would have flat shading so the color reads from a distance

>>2819084
you fucking suck.

>>2819092
Your criticism sucks.

>>2819084
if it's supposed to read well, push up the contrast between bow and background. Looks quite simple, but also think about simplifying light source and pushing it really strong, might help you with flat shading.

Im testing out comic layout and really liking one big image with dialogue. This one is too simplified and sketchy, but I'm liking the idea.

>>2819084
go fucking learn how lighting works. go fucking practice shading. it's all fucked. you go lighting and shadow all fucked up all over the place. the ground cast shadow doesn't even match the god damn figure, stop being a lazy fuck tard.

she has lighting on her tits and shadows on her cheek, both on the left side, figuratively makes no fucking sense.

>>2819123
yikes
I agree the lighting is messed up
probably not going to work more on it but I will take this into consideration

got commissioned to do a portrait of this dude, haven't done anything traditional in a while though and i'm really nervous

>>2819176
Also be mindful of the composition. That arrow looks like if it's sticking out of her back, even when you see it's tip in her hand.

>>2819284
i hope he isn't paying much

>>2819123

u sound mad. u okay?

Wip

>>2819284
WHere do you and people like you get the balls to take commissions? I see it all over. YOU CAN'T DRAW YET. YOU'RE NOT AT THE LEVEL TO DO WORK FOR OTHERS. You're doing so much harm in so many areas. Price points, making clients think that the $5 you charge is the norm. Then you giving them a shit product for their money. I wanna beat the faces off of you.

>>2819357
they don't have balls. they're just entitled trash. they think they're hot shit, wow are they fucking wrong about that.

>>2819357
>>2819387
why are you so triggered?

Updateroni.

>>2819357
Nothing wrong with it, it's you who thinks you have to wait before doing commissions

>>2819387
They saturate everywhere they go. Flooding clients with responses. All these shit people do is cause problems for actual artists that deserve the job and a great product that the client deserves.

This anon is a legit piece of shit.

>>2819397
Because if you don't see the problem here, then you're a fucking retard.

>>2819402
There's everything wrong with it.

>>2819387
>>2819357
>>2819406
>>2819408
>>2819404
Jealous faggots salty that no one ever commissions him. Spoiler: it's not because of "saturation", it's because you're trash. Even shitty artists like him can get clients.

>>2819422
typical response from the typical shit animu "artist" missing the point entirely. This is what I get for browsing a board filled with inept 17 yr olds.

>>2819425
>This is what I get for being an inept 17 yr olds.
ftfy, if you spent less time on /ic/ and more actually drawing you might get some commissions.

>>2819439
like this guy.

http://amir146.deviantart.com/art/quick-sketch-656196418

Drawing on photoshop is such a pain in the asshole. But I don't want to keep using SAI since it's the industry's standard and you can do more things with photoshop. Blending colors and doing nice lines is just so easier with SAI.

>>2819455
PS has the most premade assets and materials. Don't gimp yourself.

>>2819488
nice self portrait

>>2819488
lmfao, what the fuck kind of pose is that?

>>2819501
rofl

>>2819501
straight savage

>>2819506
rehabilitation pose.

>>2819501
>>2819506
>>2819509
"I can't draw. I'm going to go on an aonymous board and shit on people who are actually trying."

>>2819528
It definitely makes me feel better.

>>2819528
"I can't take jokes, I'm going to get triggered at every little thing."

>>2819528
>goes on an anonymous image board known as the cesspool of the internet and is surprised when people are shit on


lol, fucking whiny, triggered little faggot.

wroking with more colors

>>2819488
That's some bombastic ass nice line art m8
keep going

>>2819084
Don't worry anon, they just teared you a new one but I'm confident you'll make it

>>2819819
encouraging words form a retard. thanks!

abandon thread

>>2819398
Just finish it already.

critiques?

>>2820404
is it supposed to be arousing or scary

>>2820404
Painting is decent, drawing has some structural issues. The neck and shoulder area look poorly attached. Get rid of the hair temporarily to fix that.

Her left forearm looks flat, mostly because it isn't lit consistently with the rest of the figure. Planes of the abdominals are a bit wonky, mind your values there.

Fish half looks too big and fat compared to the rest of the figure. Think about locomotion and what mass and musculature is actually necessary. It also pinches funny in places that seem more like a slug or a stuffed sock than a fish. Having part of it resting on a ground plane also seems odd to me.

You could probably push the highlights on the hair. The hair also doesn't look like it's behaving correctly for underwater hair - too much of a unified mass. I'm not a fan of having only 2 stray locks of hair that conveniently hide the nipples. You could handle that more subtly, replace the nipples with scales, or just include them without overrendering them.

I don't like the pure white background. It forces a lot of your other values to be darker than they need to be and also caps how bright you can go on the figure. Even making it a tad darker with a hint of color can help make it less straining. You could include some indication of an environment, like a section of the ground plane, to give context and a bit of visual interest. Think about your composition and the options that open up.

I prefer poses that look natural over 'posing for a photo', but whatever suits your needs.

>>2819501
kek

>>2820404
I'm a /beg/ but I fucking love merms and saw this when scrolling through so I thought I would chime in

First off, I love the off skin tone and colors you are using. Your lighting looks great too, and you've captured a good texture for the scales and the skin that really looks and feels nice.

Now for what seems off: having her in a white void is a little sad, I feel like she could be even more lovely in a fitting environment. How she is posed is distracting as well. Your painting is going for "dark and mysterious" with hints of alluring but her pose is more like "come here boy and gimmie some of your fine lovin " I think this could be solved by simply adding a toothy grin to bridge the two feelings, but then we go to the tail. The way her tail is poised, alongside the white background, make her look like a naga in a sense. She looks like she's on land and that's something not so great for a fish woman. Perhaps having it curl in front of her instead of back? or even reworking it from the base, but merms tend to not be so "vertical" for lack of a better term. Again, I am from /beg/ so take what I said with a grain of salt

She is gorgeous, though, and based solely off this I would like to know if you have a blog where I could see more of your work!

>>2820404
what it's lacking the most (at least rendering-wise) is subsurface scattering and translucency (fin parts), as well as a shiny/wet look.

as noted by the other good crit, hair, and a bit wonky anatomy (that left arm!)

>>2820287
I can't, I can draw for bit over an hour a day before I get a pounding headache because of the medication I'm on.

>>2820758
Get of the Jew pills then you depressed fag.

not sure whos making all the threads about me but heres what ive been working on today. 18"x24", Alizarin Crimson, Indian Orange, and Cerulean Blue Hue

>>2820795
Yeah, and suffer from unbearable pain because of my tumor, good idea whoreass

>>2820884
Why are you not traveling or going to see the grand Canyon if you have a brain tumor instead of drawing monsters?

I'm 100% sure you don't have a tumor and are just mad because I called out your depression.

Post some MRI images of that brain tumor home with time stamps on the med bottles.

>>2820901
Dumbfuck. It's a bone tumor, not a brain tumor. Orthopedic time in 8 days.

>>2820852
aaaand im done

>>2820977
Shit, get better man, keep drawing what you can.

>>2820980
Whats up with the cloth on the left side of the painting behind the bowls?
Why are you trying to be a shittier cezanne? That shit has been done to death, bud.

>>2820977
:(

Getting started

>>2820977
Did this guy and furry posters >>2820980 give you that cancer anon?

>>2819528
>>2819810
Thank you guys

>>2821107
Yes.

tried to draw something from imagination after studying for a while, not too sure where i'm going with it, not too sure about workflow still.

>>2820977
How long do you have?

>>2821199
So good, blog?

>>2821133
Kek. Sorry mate. Pretty gay desu

>>2821199
Looks pretty shit spaghetts, quit shitposting on this board

>>2821121
Really good, man.
I'd criticise the pose for being interesting but meaningless, the outline of the shadow, the fact that no man's penis should ever be this small, and the feet and toes being in need of more details

>>2821380
Play much Subnautica?

Some concept art still in progress.
Hope this glowing creature looks cute enough

>>2821817
nah dude, just say some bobbit worms on youtube

>>2821867

>>2821882
thats some neat stuff dude, blog?

>>2821891
Sorry..... I dont have one...... Basically my facebook is my blog but I dont think it is a good idea to post my facebook on 4chan........

>>2821330
Its not lethal yet. 1/20 chance of cancer though. Its just unbearable chronic pain.

>>2821897
Just make a tumblr or instagram and start archiving your work there.

>>2820980
colors look off
gitgud already

>>2822008
i was busy gittin not bad, anon. next painting will have a final revision of the palette i plan on using for most of my paintings. I've been needing something versatile and I've landed on including lemon yellow, and turquoise in the palette I used for that painting. So try to picture that painting but with the greens and yellows you can get from lemon yellow, turquoise, and cerulean blue [hue]

>>2821981
I suspected as much, when other anon said "get off the jew pill", maybe he's not typical burger taking "ADHD" or "depression" treatment.

>Its just unbearable chronic pain.
>JUST

get well anon.

just started drrawing digital. ambition is to get into comics

page of hands

A collage of what I've done today and yesterday.

I've still got serious issues with my heads and faces, and even when I push Loomis I just don't see the improvement I want.
If anyone got a better system, tutorial, book, whatever, than Loomis for the construction of faces it would be greatly appreciated.

And as always: any critique is welcome.

>>2820977
Why don't you just get your leg removed?

>>2822132
jesus

>>2821331
>>2821424
:(

>>2822123
And a new one, just for the sake of it.
Took ~1.1/2 hours. Finally feels like I'm getting somewhere when it comes to eyeballing perspective.

>>2822132
I've considered the good ol whiskey, saw and a stick to bite method a couple times. I just have too much attachment to it.

>>2821064
>>2821072
>>2822056
Also thank you guys for the sympathy. It really means a lot to me in my current situation.

>>2822030
whats with the meme lines at the bottom? They completely drew my attention away from the rest of the piece

self portrait

>>2822429
muddy

>>2822431
i disagree. the colors arent muddy they're just boring... anyways i fixed some of the proportion issues.

>>2822547
This is my favorite of your self portraits

>>2818710
does this color pallette suck dick?

>>2822607
Doesn't seem aesthetically pleasing to me, I'm too bad to nail down why though.

>>2822607
Who cares about palette when you don't understand light?

bought a surface pro 4. I draw traditionally, so this is kinda weird for me

>>2822547
Nope I agree with last anon, your color temperatures and relativity are totally off. Those aren't the colors you see irl.

Do you know what color your light source is? If it's windowlight it's probably cool. Your shadows are cool, your midtones are warm. Not good

What is the pink outline on the neck?

Tldr you are silly if you disagree with this crit, you lack severe knowledge in color and light.

A simple way to prove this would be to take a photo of yourself and compare your colors to the photo colors in Photoshop with the eyedropper.

Do hundreds of color studies, read Gurney's light and color, read catbibs blurb on color in his journal....

>>2822223
If there's distortion on the left there will be distortion on the right.

>>2822123

Draw from life, everywbere. Draw from photos and compare your drawings to the photos in photoshop. Learn sight size approach.look up measuring and accuracy gumroad. Make sure you totally understand the skull and underlying form and how it relates to perspective, as well as how the features fit into it

Loomis isnt enough.

>>2821199
Lower body is massive.Check and study proportions and major shapes.They are actually more important than the individual muscles.

>>2822607
i used a touchpad on a macbook for this so... whatever. but yeah your color palette isn't too bad, you just need draw more and spend more time thinking about color.

>>2820980
Knowing how difficult oils are, I think this is a good attempt with such a limited palette

Could have been pushed way further tho

>>2822680
Hm, thanks anon. So like, brighter=better?
i was also wondering if having it be red yellow green was a bad combo.

>>2822671
k

>>2822688
no idea. im >>2822547
and >>2820980
i have no idea what im doing i just paint and think about painting a lot. just paint more. you'll be fine.

>>2822295
I mean if I had cancer in my leg bone I think I would just cut that shit off and get a carbon fiber leg with those blade feet to help me jump.

Fuck all the chemo and meds man.

I was like seriously asking why you're not just cutting your leg off before it possibly spreads? Is in your thigh bone or something?

Below the knee it would be 100% cut off day 1 for me.

>>2822751 couple reasons
1. It's not cancer yet. There is a possibility of it becoming cancer. But it's not a lethal tumor yet. Just excruciatingly painful.
2. It's in the thigh bone
3. I'd rather see what the bone doctor says next Wednesday. Also if it was cutoff material I'd rather have doctors do the dangerous parts. I live in Finland so medical bills aren't an issue. Just the stupidly long waiting times.

>>2822807
Well yeah man I didn't mean I would cut it off with a saw in my garage. I would just tell the doctors I want it removed.

If that shit gets worse just remove the bone and get a metal bone or have the leg taken off dude. It would be better than chemo and all that bullshit.

Artificial limbs have gotten a lot better as have titanium bone replacements.

Plus you can shove your stump in people's asses in porno and make some easy money.

>>2822672
Shit.. Thanks

>>2822673
Thanks! I'll get to it.
BTW, I can only find a Gumroad called "Accuracy - A Drawing Guide" by a Dorian Iten. Was that the one you meant?

Been in atelier first time in ages. charcoal, 50 x 70
critique?

Tried to paint a line art

>>2823085
Nice magic
Disgusting face

>>2823088
Lol any ideas how to fix it?

>>2823092
It's not technically bad, It's the stylistic choice that comes off (to ME) as ugly. Very pointy / plastic

>>2823092
i think its the eyes, mostly. drawn like anime, while face is cartoonish, but not of the chinese kind

Hey !
Need crits on the painting technique and the values...

>>2823085
I also think that the eyes are a bit large. they are really close to the ear for a 3/4 face pose.
Nice colors tho !

>>2823162
Because the figure in front has fairly few contrasts the eye is actually more drawn to the right part of the image, perhaps making the figure more interesting through detail/tweaking the background a bit so it serves to frame your figure rather than overshadow it

>>2823162
try making sky darker around the dude and brighter in the corner. I get that you wanted that beacon to shine, but the guy above me is right it is distracting with the white stripe in the middle

>>2823088
Face looks fine though

Working on a cute little thing to pad my insta/tumblr. WIP

>>2823472
>>tumblr
>>is this where all the newfags are coming from

>>2823176
>>2823461

tried to apply your advice on this one.
What do you think ?

>>2823534
man, your shit is nothing but meme filters.
it's so much the case that one would believe you did that just to troll /ic/
>10 minutes drawing
>10 filters
>SIGNATURE
kys

>>2823539
Just trying to work on composition/values and get a nice result in a small amount of time mate.
There's actually only one color vibrance filter so you shouldn't be that triggered

>>2823162
What kind of filter or special effect did you use? it looks interesting!

>>2823607
its called chromatic aberration. easy to apply

>>2823162
>>2823534
these are pretty cool anon! got a blog?

>>2823563
cutting corners = never gunna make it. Just stop now

sometimes your'e the catch sometimes you're the bait

working through this drawing

>>2823811
also: why is this thread so fucking dead

>>2818710
Full figure

>>2823901
how long did this take you and how old are you?

>>2823901

His trunk is a bit too long and the connection of his legs to his pelvis is incorrect. Legs are very disproportionate, you've made them very thin and especially he upper parts are too short. Get back to your model or ref and fix the lower body.

trying to fix mistakes before rendering deets, pls rip apart. thanks in advnace

>>2823913
Lol
>>2823908
A little under 2 hours and I'm probably older than you lol

>>2823918

Fuck off Brian, your shit sucks

>>2823914
her boobs are too big for her cleavage to be that faint.

>>2823988
thats not me.
>>2823811 is me.

>>2823607
they are all explain in this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIZwUsAnRtg

>>2823741
my instagram : https://www.instagram.com/seroe_one/

>>2823077
any1? Could use your thoughts on this

>>2822669
Cute. It doesn't look particularly scary though, if that's what you were going for (needs more lethal looking elements). As is, I want to give it a cuddle and keep it as a pet.

>>2824071
its going to be a mount. its going to have some type of warrior on it. and yeah i might add some extra things to make it scary. like adding antennas and maybe tiny arms in the front eating someone with no head

>>2823077
Too much emphasis on line. Heavy outlines for everything that breaks the illusion of form. Compare your drawing to charcoal drawings of masters.

Focus on capturing large, flat value shapes instead of outlines. Pay attention to what edges need to be hard and which ones soft. Squint your eyes at your subject to reduce the amount of visual noise, and try to capture that. Where marks are unavoidable, make them so that they follow the form you're drawing, or so that they're visually appealing (ideally both). Your marks are haphazard and ugly, when they should be designed.

>>2823914
Can probably push the lighting a bit. I'd look into master paintings with candle or torch light. The fire can be brighter, you can include richer reds and oranges in the lit areas, and try to show a decent falloff in light intensity with distance. My example is just a couple minutes of tweaking, so be sure to look into better resources.

study from this mornin, I might throw in the chainmail but not over do it

>>2824623
Thank You! Starded going to atelier again, first time in like 5 years. didnt do charcoal since then - i found it annoyingly imprecise, prob cuz i did pen and ink for the past year. Thats it for self justification - good points, will apply

trying to get into the portrait thing

>>2824637
that actually looks kinda terrible. the original had some nice muted colors, but yours is just a saturated mess t b h

>>2823901
reminds me of noah's shitty anatomy

>>2824637
i agree the falloff should be emphasized, but saturating the colors that much would not be what i'm after. i did a master study of candlelight and it's much more muted, more-so than what i did....

fall-off increased, going to redo the flame..face adjusted slightly...

still not happy with the realism that it's lacking

>>2823534
I see what you were trying to do, and it is better, but basically things that are super dark with no contast aren't really interesting to the eye and things that have contrast and detail are. So when you make the character so dark, the added blips of light actually make him seem darker in comparison and like a mass of shadow. It definitely looks cool and you've got a neat style, I'd just recommend adding more detail and contrast to the character to make him "pop". Think about values and where you want a viewer's attention, and make the most interesting value changes there.

Pluggin away.

>>2825003
swear i saw a guitar

>>2823914
you can increase the light from your light source without blowing it out like >>2824637
if you add pure white to the flame you can get away with more chromatic, and brighter areas.

think of it less like a candle, and more like a light bulb. it's magic. it can be as strong a light source as it takes to make the illustration look good.

>>2824912
cry more lol

>>2825040
shut up brian and get gud

finished this

Hit me with whatcha got

>>2825286
Her arms are the most glaring problem with the foreshortening. There is no depth on the busiest part of drawing so it makes whole thing look flat. Then it makes her legs look really short.

Are the shoulders too wide as well? Also yeah she does look short.

>>2825229
nice pears

>>2825407
>Are the shoulders too wide as well? Also yeah she does look short.

>>2825286

>>2825944
Painfully dull,stiff and full of really simple mistakes. I think you should start from dynamic poses, then try again.

>>2825944
love it

>>2825944
I'm seeing a lot of muddy colours and a generally bland colour palette. I think you need to read up a bit on ambient occlusion and subsurface scattering to improve your shading. And also include wherever the hell that yellow light is coming from and don't just keep tracing the edges with a soft brush. Actually paint it into the crevices consistently.

>>2825944
So many jealous fags in this thread >>2825989 >>2825966
Nice one m8.

>>2825966
well i did not want to expres the movment thru background figures,but now that you mantion it they are stiff af
>>2825984
im glad that you do
>>2825989
thanks for the advice dude,I actualy know a litle about oclusion,but this is comics,so i dont wanna go in that direction.But i vill fix my rim light,just like you sad.Actualy,i maight fix a bunch of things on this one.
>>2826065
thanks m8

>>2826065
In a lot of cases I'd agree with you but I find those critiques totally valid. They're not even worded as harshly as some of the worst "critiques" that get thrown out here and they're certainly pointing out what I would consider to be real and substantial flaws in the work. I'm all for balancing the pH of this place anon, however I don't think you gave careful consideration to these comments before you instinctively reacted.

>>2826238
>,I actualy know a litle about occlusion,but this is comics,so i dont wanna go in that direction
Then you don't know enough about occlusion. You've already attempted to include it in your coloring but you haven't done it correctly. Comic book coloring isn't the same as traditional painting in execution but the principles are still the same. In fact in many ways a comic colorist needs to know them even more thoroughly than a fine art painter because they seek to shortcut the painting process and imply light, shadow, form and rendering (texture) efficiently. To simply these aspects you have to know them well to know what you can leave out or how you can stylize to create the illusion while doing half the work.
As a rule of thumb anon, the first thing you think you don't need is probably the first thing you should study.

>>2826249
thanks ,dude,can you prety please explain it to me ,where im doing wrong?

>>2826253
It's wrong throughout the entire picture, honestly. The large black area under the helmet in the first panel looks entirely like an occlusion shadow. It's a shadow that's hit its darkest value all the way through. It doesn't match the form of the helmet. If those gogles and helmet are pressing as tightly to his face as the next panel implies, the occlusion shadow should be a much much smaller area, just a line, while the other shadowed area should be a somewhat lighter cast shadow with a little fall off. It looks like they're in diffuse lighting so the edges would likely be softer and shadows either need to be not that deep or more areas need to be in shadow to imply there isn't much light in the area. The problems with occlusion are tied to issues with rendering everywhere else in the picture, of not knowing where shadows should start and end, where their ends either need occlusion or sub-surf scattering and need to be hard or soft, and what value they should be. (cont)

>>2826274
You're also shading with black which yes can be done right, but in your image it's dulling the colors in a way that just looks unappealing, even if you do want to go for a dingy or washed out look. If you study lighting and color theory a little more you might come across a solution that will let you get the dingy look you want while still looking nice and it could be as simple as shading with a layer of dark blue or purple instead of black. If you study this at all I recommend heading to ctrl.paint. There's a really nice quick video there that gives an overview of the different shadow types and what occlusion shadows are for and when/where to use them.

>>2826274
>>2826282
thanks a ton ,reaally golden critique.im saving this,and thank you again,for your time,you just helped me a lot

>>2826293
You're welcome anon I'm glad I could help out, and good luck to you.

>>2826296
thanks again,you are a relly good person anon,i dont have anyone to crit me irl,so i apricete this enormusly.Best of luck to you

still going with some shortcuts, but slowly getting pleased.

>>2826338
last panel reads nicely. keep at it anon

>>2820980
Really like your stuff lately brian. Im glad you keep on even while everyone shits on you. Btw i hate your guts youll never make it.

>>2826338
love it!

>>2820980
You're doing damn good, Brian.

>>2826559
>>2826667
remember how much worse i used to be?

Is this boring? Apart from adding some some flowy hair and water dropplets etc (she's supposed to be sitting near a waterfall) how could I make this more interesting?

Also any ideas for her outfit? I thought this all looked pretty good until I started coloring it. Now I'm not sure.

>>2826837
you have the same problem as me.


no, it isn't an exciting idea but it DOESN'T MATTER. all jana does is draw pretty girls for instance

decent rendering, light, and value will make anything more interesting to look at

>>2826837
DESU it just looks unfinished.
Sit on this picture for days to come, fill it with as much detail as you can, fill in lines, make everything less dreamy and more definite. It is sweat that will make it good.

>>2826887
I guess this is what I thought, that it's boring but it'll come together with the right lighting/details

>>2826926
bruh I got like 3 days to finish this and 3 more to finish a whole nother one. But I'll do my best.

I guess i'll just add some giant statue heads poking out of the water or something. Maybe move her helmet and cuirass to her back like she's traveling

Is this shit?

>>2826943
Yeah. But keep going though, I can see sparks of understanding and good technique in there.

can i get some critique? I posted in beg, but no one respond.

tryna reach that charcoal proficiency homeboy

>>2826998
Damn, how do you use charcoal like that? Mine just look all unrefined and shit.

>>2826999
grab pencil at the back for light lines, use a blender and your figure + kneaded eraser to get the shapes you want, just be careful with yoiur lines because charcoal doesn't come off easily lmao

>>2826993
Hello Anon!

First and foremost- Check your perspective! Draw your horizon line and then start looking at things on your character and ask yourself "Would I see the top of bottom of this cuff?" "Would I see the top or the bottom of this object?" "are your feet suppose to overlap like that?"

Second- The pose is boring and it doesn't tell a ton about the character. Try to pick a pose that's more dynamic and interesting! Take a picture of yourself in a pose or get a friend to do it and use it as ref. You can also get some really cool angles that help support the story of your character. Maybe an Up shot so they look like they're looming over you if they're a villainous character.

Third: Materials
Check to see that all your materials look like what you want them to be. Does the leather look like leather, cloth like cloth? Skin like skin?

Fourth: Anatomy
I think your character could use a little more definition in her anatomy. More primitive people tend to be a little more toned because their everyday life tends to call for it... Or maybe they're a shaman that the village takes care of and they get a little chunky. Or something else... Whatever your reason, make sure it's thought out.

Fifth: Reference
Always use reference. Norman rockwell used extensive reference for his paintings. you think you're better then Rockwell?

There's more that we can go into but I think this is a good start for you! Good luck Anon!

>>2827067
Nice critique, got a blog I can follow and bother you for critiques?

>>2823811
Catt doesn't like drawings where she looks tired and careworn. I've watched all of her streams from the past 2 years and her number 1 pet peeve is when guys in chat say she looks tired.

Guarantee she won't favorite your latest even though it is a solid drawing, you need to capture her inner brightness and soulfullness of her eyes,

Hey guys, last thread I posted my enviroment I was doing for a collab assignment from my Uni course, anyway here's the final video. She did the characters I did the enviroments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W2Vfa0ckuE

It was a 3 day thing so not the greatest but it worked out well for the time given I think.

>>2827774
If you're not a trap, l o n d o n?

doodlin

>>No.2827776
am i from london? im from the uk but not london specifically

>>2827774
>tfw girls draw on their eyes all the time so they're probably already better at that
In fact they draw on their face all the time with make up. This is kind of unfair, don't you think.

>>2827783
wow
not here long?

>>2827774
what with the collar? (love it)

>>2827788
nah im just a retard

>>2827784
drawing eyeliner is not like drawing an eye...if it was id be a lot better at makeup lmao. although i think contouring helps figure out where shadows should go. p interesting but not unfair

>>2827791
fashion statement i guess, thank you though

>>2827814
>muh fashion
You aren't fooling anyone you degenerate slut, you wear that in hopes of baiting some Chad to dominate you like the slut you are.

>>2827965
how cringy

>>2827967
kill yourself

>>2821981
You are gonna make it, m8. Hang in there

>>2827965
who am i to get between a man and his fantasies?? i got the choker from forever21 so i think that says something about the hidden desires of young girls today

id never date someone called chad tho

>>2828004
> i got the choker from forever21
>says something about the hidden desires of young girls today
Sounds like this is YOUR fantasy, but like all sluts a mix of ego, shame, and lack of self awareness prevents you from admitting it.

>id never date someone called chad tho
Sweet naive slut

>>2823914

Flames cast a reddish light IRL

Cleavage is flat

Left shoulder is large and weird

>>2819327
Why are there white dots on her boobs it looks weird

>>2828024
leave the bitch alone you cuck

>>2828004
Hey babygirl

hand page. doing smaller studies these past few days. trying to slow my roll a little bit i was getting tired

>>2827776
What is the london meme? I see people do this
L
O
N
D
O
N
shit all the time but what's it from?

>>2828610
who cares? do you ask your friends to explain their inside jokes to you too? if its not funny to you when you dont understand it, odds are it wont be funny to you when you do.

>>2828610
It's a /soc/ meme. Everytime a girl from the UK posted in a thread or anything he'd be there asking if she was in London.

One day while posting his face a girl told him that he was handsome and he went crazy asking her if she was in London using that type of text.

L O N D O N ?
O
N
D
O
N
?

It's pretty lame if you explain it.

Trying to work on more finished pieces, but not sure where to go with it from here and getting sorta bored of drawing plants. Critique welcome, especially regarding perspective. I think I placed the 3rd vanishing point too close?

>>2828224
K E K
E K E
K E K

>>2828610
The origin of the meme was when a girl /fit/ asked about losing weight and posted a nude. A guy in the thread kept asking her if she lived in London. She wouldn't respond and kept asking until he was just saying
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
N

Destroy It! I can only see that the left (for her) forearm is too short

And b&w version

>>2828821
that tiny hand with that mini stick wrist and forearm though fugg
man the proportions are just so off and incongruent to each other
i like the colors though

>>2828821
nice colors, proportions suck though

>>2828823
that's pink. not black and white

>>2828821
i like the colors. what materials did you use?

>>2828896
PS

>>2828823
I feel like your monitor is horribly adjusted mate

>>2819398
is that your evil bone tumor monster?

I'm working on this and HOLY SHIT im suffering.
I want to drop this so hard, but I had spend +80 hours on this piece of shit and i'll really dissapointed with myself if after such hard work I quit.
Any suggestions and recomendations?

>>2829690
>sunk cost fallacy
Stop working on it, wait a few days and reflect on your mistakes, and start a new drawing

Critiques?

working on this

>>2829862
Is there a reason you've been working with the same theme lately

>>2829865
because its cold outside so i cant do landscapes and i dont have any friends where i live who will sit for portraits.

>>2829868
same reason i draw my hands and do self portraits a lot.

>>2830040
How did you learn how to do such vibrant lighting?

>>2830042
Are you trolling?

>>2828631
The image is a bit too shitty for me to really see what I'm looking at.

But the vertical lines are so all over the place that I wonder if it's intentional.
Because as it is it looks really wonky.

to anybody who's interested:
I won't take care of making the new Draw Thread OPs; so whoever wants to take up the task, feel free to step up.

So I've done nothing but faces for the last few days.
Not every time you draw something and and can see a somewhat immediate improvement, so I feel pretty good about myself for once.

So please tell me how wrong I am and crush my dreams.

>>2820342
It's a nice knife tho.

need to study but i can't be fucked
but i'm sick of my figures
the arms are supa short but it's meant to be foreshortened, i'm not sure what's happening

>>2830058

Thanks for the redline. I see what you mean with the crooked verticals vanishing below the horizon but what are the blue lines trying to show? Should I be placing a 4th vanishing point above?

>>2830040
This looks really cute and cool!

>>2830121
facial proportions are fucked up
head seems kinda too big next to the arms, doesn't really work man

>>2820977
don't listen to them anon i really hope your condition gets better soon; the world can use amazing artists like you. get well soon i hope we see more of your works. godbless

reworking an old drawing
>>2830095
thnx

>>2829690
make the background darker.
also she looks cut out of the picture, if you know what i mean

Some more portrait practice

>>2819092
Literally kill yourself.

>>2830151
I saw the lines you had going there and thought you intended those to be towards a vanishing point in the sky.
Which you for the record should have in that POV. If the camera looks up, the vanishing point is in the sky. If the camera looks down you'll have one in the ground. You can have both if you feel like it, but then you'll get a more fish eye effect and that's not always a effect everyone wants.

>>2830505
seems like is lacking a bit of stucture

>>2830564
actually it looks fine for what it is, yours is generic as fuck

>>2830639
What's with the hyper defensiveness of legitimate critiques lately? This redline fixes a lot of issues the original had, such as her not having proper space from the sternum along the clavicle to her shoulders on both sides. And no, it doesn't look like her shoulders are raised it looks like they're coming out of her neck. The redline fixes that. In attempting to make her look slightly hunched or bending the artist made her breastplate area concave too while the redline corrects the structure of the ribcage while keeping the gesture.
Again I understand healthy skepticism especially given /ic/s rep but let's all be careful not to rob ourselves of the few helpful anons around here.

>>2830654
just saying your shit is generic, if you're going to fix it then fix it right.

>>2830639
>generic
what exactly do you mean by generic?

finished this. gonna get back to drawing.

>>2823539
theres nothing wrong at all with filters...

>>2830685
completely ripped apart the style the original had to "fix" anatomy issues. sure you put some things in the right place, but at what cost? is the original artist gonna learn anything from it? dont work around the style, you both get nothing done. work in their terms not yours. no one draws the same but the whole point is to learn and adapt, and your "fix" just doesnt do anything.

>>2826645
Beautiful line quality if a little thick, Try exaggerating the gesture and even the character model a bit to add energy

>>2830676
I'm not the one who did that redline and considering it's just a structural fix and not an attempt to redraw the picture, it being generic goes without saying. They didn't make a drawing of it so it doesn't have details and flourish. That's not its purpose. Its only purpose is to show the original artist what errors exist in their drawing beneath the detail so really saying it's "generic" is a non-issue.

>>2820404
Utter dogshit family, give up

Something is bothering me on this one but I can't figure out what.

Been wanting to make some movie posters. Here's my first one.

>>2821380
pixels was a good movie

>>2829779
I have done that thing with everything I have done for Months and I get bored and tired of the paint.
i'm finishing it more because of the pleasure of finishing something more than anything
>>2830476
Thanks, I'll try to do something about it.

Can someone please point me to an in depth form rendering guide? I know that edges in direct light are sharp while in indirect light are softer and no light they're lost, do I have to keep these principles in mind before I paint? Am I overthinking things? I'm having a hard time, been drawing for 2 years and now trying to learn to paint.

did more to this

>>2830987
>lost edges
fucking shitty meme

>>2830995
and this. this ones still not done yet.

>>2818710
totally procrastinating. the white scratches at the top are the light's direction. rip me anew

>>2830857
perhaps its the lack of connection of the tail to the body? maybe it's too ethereal, idk, I really like this

>>2827067
why. cant. we. all. encourage. each other. like. this. ? ? ?

>>2831210
NOTE: i just added the flowers and I know they're way too contrasting/unfinished/etc. there will be way more flowers.

It's been a while since I posted last what I miss?

I'll add glass the fragments latter

>>2830857
Too much focus on meaningless texture and noise, and and weird effects, and not enough focus on the basics. Focus on getting the drawing right, the values and lighting consistent, the major planes of the forms etc.

just did this. fucked up alot and couldnt fix it because i fucked up the layers. how the fuck do i make water look like water?

>>2831356
Looks like water from the thumbnail.

>>2831356
looks like he's being beamed up somewhere

>>2831356
more color separation between his right arm and the fish behind it.

>>2831282
alright, ill do that. Thanks for feedback.

>>2831356
I think this is awesome. It reminds me of one of the first cut scenes in the sega genesis game "out of this world". Where he transports in the water and swims out while tentacles try to grab him.

A wip... i feel like the legs and the face are really weird? How can i fix them?

Hey guise. Need help. I'm trying to do a Marvel fan art thingy here. This is just the sketch. I did some really crappy line art just to get an idea of the composition and stuff and I did a really simple pass with an airbrush so I'd have an idea for the lighting in the image. Absolutely everything is going to be overpainted with some nice hard painterly brushes (Don't want any of that airbrush shit showing through). I'm probably going to flatten and darken the image so I can start building the forms again from dark to light.

I'd really like to hear what you guys think of the lighting and composition in the scene. I don't really care about the character design yet. I deliberately leave that shit open so I can figure it out while I'm painting the final image. So I'm basically looking for an overall review of "feel"/colour and composition of the image. Not so much a detailed analysis on shit like the horrible prison bars or the or the lack of design on Mysterio over there. Overpainting is highly encouraged and don't be afraid to tell me you fucking hate everything in the image as this is just like 4h. into this thing and I could still change everything...

Tl;dr: Need help with lighting, composition and color. Going for realism. Gonna overpaint everything.

>>2828224

>>2828398
Real nice famalam

>>2831489
Learn measuring and proportions if you can't even see what's wrong with this.

>>2831537
I miss that show
(thank god it's on youtube)

>>2830995
>black shadows on white drapery
ugh..

>>2831482
thank you! i actually painted this after playing a game called inside.

sketches and stuff

Any thoughts? I Kinda tried to paint this at first, threw that out the window, cuz it suuucked! At any rate! Kinda feel like this is missing somethin

>>2832084
It's missing a flying pokemon around ,or a couple fighting. They're just some random clouds now.
Also, the grass looks totally flat and ugly.
Nice clouds btw

>>2823988
its deff not brian, its got good style.

uug I've been really un-inspired with this. Anyone have any ideas to make her look less fucking dull without hugely altering what her current outfit is? She's supposed to be a fencer so, like, padded armor and stuff. I thought maybe having a mask tied to the back of her head or something but iunno

>>2832717
I mean without changing her outfit too much

>>2832717
Maybe play with color a bit. Stitching of different color from the base clothing. Maybe yellow/gold colored accents to smaller details of the red piece. Possibly even alternating vertical stripes of the white defined by the existing stitch boundaries.

Overall it's pretty neat. Hair thickness around the hairline seems inconsistent - hair around the temples looks thinner but the top of the head (meeting the forehead) looks a lot thicker. Almost looks like a helmet.

I don't like how the head she's sitting on is oriented the same way as her head. Almost looks like the same base sketch was used for both, but mirrored. I think it might look a little more interesting to see the stone head from the underside instead of the top.

drawing from this evening

Few guys in /beg/ told me to move to here, but I am not sure. It seems most of you have fundies down and I am still knees deep studying them.

Do you fellas think I should still stick to /beg/ ?

Here are some of my drawings

>>2833281
>>2832127

>>2833954
I think you're moving into intermediate. I would say you should start working on drawing looser and from imagination. You can still use reference for details but challenge yourself to invent the image as much as you can and build it from the inside out. Continue anatomy study and learn the interior muscles and bones too. That's just my suggestion anyway.
>>2833852
I have no advice I just really like this.

>>2834058
Hey anon, thank you for chiming in.

I usually look at things around me and photos and use what I know about perspective to draw them from different views, I have heard this is good practise.

I will start drawing more from imagination, thank you for the feedback.

is it me or is there no new draw thread when this is on page eleven