/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>when the drawthread on /b/ is more active than the one on /ic/

>>2790340
>board has more people
>they do requests

didn't get feedback on the last thread hoping for som here :0

>>2790425
i like the idea but dont like the color and i dont like the strokes they are too thick most of the time and the colors imply contradictory lightsources (white hair implies backlight, light rips imply frontlight)

>>2790158
Merry Christmas my D/ic/ks!
We will all make it this year!!

With love
-Your favorite anon

hey I did what you guys told me, I thinned my brush so that the mistakes were more obvious.
so please crit.

>>2790440
Thanks for the tips! Any advice for color? I was kinda feeling neon green that day

a painting i'm currently working on.

Can i save it or should i scrap and work on something else?

also, any advice for creating consistent, finished artworks?

Pluggin along.

I'll do my loomis after the finals I promise!

>>2790673
i say keep it and work on it more in chunks. patience is key.

but i will say that her head is way too large for her body. and i would definitely make the torso a little longer as well. but i love the way you render, anon.

>>2790673
Stop. Do at least 300 gestures. Start over after you've done 300 gestures and draw the entire figure.

Workin this rn, gonna redo the right hand it's buggin the fuck outta me

Workin this one right now, gonna redo the right hand bc it's buggin the shit outta me

working on this, coming from /beg/

Just derping around

>>2790866
Looks pretty cool, I like it.

nowhere near done. Just trying to loosen up

Test

>>2790158
Bump

>>2791064

>>2790673
>any advice for creating consistent, finished artworks?

Inktober
Don't wait until october 2017, start now

jump

>>2790757
The head is too small imo

>>2791066

work in progress

>>2791227
aww man the more you post the more I love you.
have a blog?
perspective looks a bit incorrect to me (landing platform/ house)
if you built everything correctly, then maybe add more elements so that the pers can be understood better.
choice of colors and comp seem weird to me, but fairly original.

>>2790421
got one more

>>2791227
>blue shadows
>space
bretty gud senpai

>>2791227
lovely <3

>>2791227
Thought you were will terry for a second

Think i'm done with this piece lads.
About....20 hours worth of time spent.

c/c ?

>>2791487
Not that guy but that's quite the insult. Will "I'm not worth the quids but it's ok since it's for kids" Terry needs more Loomis badly. Just like most other children book "artists".

>>2790673
the proportions are kill.

>>2790757
i think i saw your stuff before, and i get that its your thing- afterall i recognized you by that- but that small head doesnt look good.

my latest drawing

>>2791777
Yeah I feel ya m8, I gone back and redid all the head sizes on all my shit bc it's been the #1 critique i've been getting, Is this a bit better? I'm working on making sure it's equal to shoulder length

>>2791777
Yeah I feel you anon, I went back and resized up all the heads on my shit, does this look better? I'm just starting up my polishing process

>>2791790
yeah it does, except the face is still small- im assuming u gonna correct that

>>2791790
This one as well, this week I've just been doin head's all fucked up and didn't even notice

>>2791804
Yeah, Definitely gonna stretch out the features and fixem up

about to get lost in the lines
goal is to finish before 2017

>>2791790
>>2791806

Since it isn't some anatomy study, I figured you were taking creative liberties. With that said, I think that it was actually more interesting with the smaller head.

>>2791812
I do enjoy the feeling of creating and exploring a small head stylistically if I'm creating large armor like a heavy set, but for portfolio sake I'm gonna play safe for a few of them

can someone redline my mistakes?

>>2791809

unfucked the face
now im outta here

merry xmas ya'll

>>2791844
Face looks cuter now but it's kind of unfortunate you did away with all the personality. There was so much flow to it before, now it looks like her body's alive and her head is a porcelain doll. Could be picky of me but I thought it was worth noting since a lot of people have trouble keeping the liveliness of rough drawings through to the finished version.

>>2791847

you right, i'll see what i can do

thanks mate

>>2791765
Didn't mean it as an insult to that anon. I personally like Terry's work and children's book illustration. Respect your opinion, though.

>>2791790

This is all opinion, and I don't know the intent of your work.

I think it's not the physical size of the head that is slightly jarring, it's more the size of the features.

The nose seems to be leaning a little too much under the right eyebrow, making it look sunken in (like the gap in a skeleton, where the nose would be). That in turn is flattening the nose/mouth area.

There is a really nice cheekbone on the right side, but the shadow of the left side on the opposite cheekbone doesn't match the right one. It looks like it's more gaunt on the left than on the right. Also, the shadow of the left cheekbone starts higher than the right one, which makes it look a little strange.

The jaw that starts under the ear seems a bit too low. If that's intentional, disregard this comment. If changing the jawline alters the face too much, you can move the ear slightly downwards to match better with the eyebrows and nose.

I think the hair on top looks awesome- especially that highlight, but what would help is to add some hair by the ears. Not a sideburn or anything but a few strands that will help ground the hair.

Her left arm (the arm that's on top) could be helped by added the lump of brachioradialis/extensor carpi radialis longus. Those are the two of the muscles that form a lump near the elbow. Her hand looks really good and I really like the spread of her fingers, it looks really natural to me. I think the color of the gloves actually works really well with the black of her dress (it's not that easy to get brown/black to look good together).

Her other arm looks a little off. Her hand and wrist are bending at a natural angle which isn't followed by her arm-showing a really strange bend there. And her fingers on that hand aren't the same width as her other fingers. Although I can see that it's still WIP.

Vehicles are hard. Fuck, Tires are hard.

>>2791790
>>2791879

Continued.

The orb (?) that's on the lower half of her body doesn't feel grounded. I see a slight shadow underneath it but if its heavy, perhaps adding some weight lines around the orb onto the dress will make it seem as if its part of the dress. If its supposed to be floating, I would suggest adding some atmosphere behind it to minimize confusion.

The dress itself is a rich black and might be helped if you add lighter shades of de-saturated blue (or yellow depending on your light.) Nothing too light but some contrast would help sell the folds of the dress because it looks very nice but the dark black/even darker black shadows are too close to each other in value and might end up looking a little muddy. What would also help is bounce light from the wall/floor. That would give you the option of using some other colors that will give the dress a little more definition.

The shoes look great IMO. Shoes are not the center of attention so they don't particularly need crazy detail. That highlight looks baller but whats hurting it (IMO) is the slightly messy outlines that kill the crisp edges. If your highlight is that strong (which implies a crisp, highly light sensitive material) making sure that the rest of the outline follows that material would work better.

For the ground/wall, I think you've done a really good job on choosing the colors. Light backgrounds look great with a dark subject. However, your shadow on the floor is black. It should be a dark brown. Take the ground color and take it halfway to black, that might work better for you. Not only will that give your comp some other colors, but it will also provide a lighter shadow area that doesn't interfere with your dress.

Overall, it's bitchin. keep going. Hope this helped a little.

this morning I was working on this

>>2791790

Hope you don't mind but I tried my hand at it.

>>2791894


This is pretty damn awesome. The arm closest to us looks amazing. That brachioradialis. *fans self*

There are a few things I've tried to fix, but please bear that this is opinion.

-biggest thing first, shortened the lower limbs. The length of the entire thigh is actually the length of the lower limb, foot included. That's a weird proportion thing even I didn't know about till recently- I always thought the thighs were the same length of the lower limb until the ankle. All my people were really weirdly tall but didn't look right. I didn't adjust the muscles of the lower limb to not look so stocky tho. (your Leg muscles on point).

-The acromian process of the scapula looks awesome, but the placement is a little too low. The top of the bicep (where the spine of the scapula hits) is right on, but then there's a gap and then the scapula seems to start. I've had models who do look different than the norm, but sometimes it's less about being truthful to the model than it is about LOOKING right.

-Although there would prolly be a shadow under the deltoids, (that would be the teres major/infraspinatus), the sharpness of it makes the arm look pasted on.

-The bottom of the scapula vs the rest of the lats and isn't that large a gap (usually). (I don't see your model only your drawing). So I smoothed it out a little. That gives the eye more of a smooth road to follow.

-Added the serratus ant. and the external obliques next to the lats. that would be really visible in that pose, considering how fit this dude is.

-Rounded out the ext. obliques (the part right above the hipbone.) If he's so crunched then it would be a little more rounded as that is a place where fat accumulates. On that note, I rounded out the front of his abdominal area for the same reason.

-The butt looks really good. All I did was make the Tensor fasciae latae a little more pronounced.

Overall, this looks really really good. Keep going.

>>2791924

*Acromion

Sorry.

>>2791903
oh sweet thanks man, yeah the features def needed to be expanded on, I don't quite agree with the left hand touchup but I feel ya, also Im gonna nerf that reflection light on the foot area seems a lil strong, but overall you opened my eyes up on all the errors, thank you anon and godspeed merry christmas

>>2791933

Merry Christmas :) Look forward to seeing it finished.

time for extremities and proper weight distribution

always have a bit o' trouble

>>2791924
Wow Thanks!!! I'm really surprised how you fixed it and in a very reasonable way.
Yes you're right, that shadow below the deltoid muscle looked a bit unnatural, and the other features of the thorax give a more aesthetic look on him.

This days I went back on drawing again but I want to know more on the anatomical configuration of the body, so I'm starting to read the book "Classic Human Anatomy In Motion", so this plus your critique are helping me A LOT to understand this anatomical features. Thank you :D!!

>>2791990

If you're looking to improve your anatomy, I might suggest Rey Bustos' classes. He teaches online as well and is one of the most insane dedicated teachers I have ever had the pleasure of taking. He knows anatomy inside out.

I had an issue where I would open an anatomy book and even though I was reading it wouldn't stick.

I posted some of the homework I would do for him. He did wonders on my anatomy.

Your work is really good and anatomy would really help push you to be amazing ! Keep at it and merry christmas!!!

what a happy old man this one.

>>2792009

don't forget the bounce light of the sky in those shadows, friend.

one of the better hands ive done. my parents got me a desk cycle for christmas cause im a fat piece of shit who sits down and draws all day.

>>2792007

Looks good so far. My advice however, would be to slooowwwwww doooooowwwwwn.

The problem is that your brushstrokes look loose. As Richard Schmidt said in his book, Alla Prima, looseness is not the lack of control but the ultimate mastery of it. That means you know what you are doing SO WELL that you don't need more than a few strokes to say what you want.

While we have a general idea of the man, a lot of the internal shapes and colors lack definition. Also the stroke economy is too incoherent- there's too much noise.

Maybe for the next one you do, try copying a portrait from Sargent- BUT!! Try to also maintain his stroke economy. That means, if you see only 3 brushstrokes to indicate the forehead, you do the same. It's going to be frustrating as all hell but it will probably help you.

Otherwise it's a good start. The general idea and colors are there and your dude looks way happier, which is awesome. Merry Christmas :)

I also attached a portrait that has really clear brush strokes

>>2792054
thank you so much, and merry christmass to you as well. :D

>>2791996
Thanks!! that plate looks insane, This comming year I will try to subscribe to his classes. Thank you so much and Merry christmas!! :D :D

>>2792314
your figures look like blow up dolls, stop thinking about porn for a while and practice gesture/drawing from life, this will help give your drawings a sense of movement and vitality

>>2790673
this is merc wip, but female??

>>2792644
nice textures there, anon!
looks like theres a chance of you making it.

Comfort zone day.

>>2792662
According to /ic/ I'm too old for that but I will try anyway, Thank you anon

One more try, two in the price of one

>>2792746
nice, i like how you treated the pants

>>2792932
I like then but you need to figure out a better way to fill the background than that streaky marker.

>>2792856
His shoulders are too rounded. Looks comfy as fuck though but he looks his body is an egg under that weater.

>>2792938
yeah, right one is older and on different paper. Does it look ok on the left one, where it blended better or you dont like it there too?

>>2792948
Yeah its more cloud like on the goat or sheep one or whatever the animal is. Looks better than the moose background.

If that's water color paper it would probably look better with water color or India ink.

>>2792965
im still experimenting with different paper types, this one is called 'rembrandt' and thats all i know-and that i liked the facture. I was thinking on water color, but ive got alot of those markers so im sticking with it for a while. Thanks for the input mate

>>2792644

I hope you don't mind, but I took a shot at it. And please bear in mind that this is all opinion so take whatever you want (or don't) from it. Also, if you're reffing a photo, remember I don't see the photo, only your work.

I think your work can benefit from some stroke economy. The textures look great, but there's too much everywhere at the same density. There's no difference between the details in the rocks at the back vs the rocks at the front. What that does is overload the eye with too much information.

On that note, I've simplified a lot of your strokes (I just did it in general, you can choose when and where you want simpler strokes.) But the general note would be that the Focus of your painting should be where there are the highest amount of strokes. You've got great texture everywhere, on the second round, focus on placing texture where you want your focal point to be.

-Secondly, I've simplified a lot of your shadows and cleaned up the edges of many rocks. The beauty of rock as a material is they usually have crisp edges, so lasso tool is your friend here. Make sure when you are painting that the edges of your strokes mimic the material you are trying to paint. (Think of edges of grass vs cut rock).

cont. p2

>>2792644

Pt.2

-Third, you've done a really good job placing the right values but there are a few spots where there are light rocks on light backgrounds. That makes it hard to figure out the distance. When the surface of a rock is bright, I would suggest the rock behind it be slightly darker to make sure they read correctly.

-bounce light from water it important! So it atmospheric perspective. I've added a little bit of perspective behind select rocks to increase distance. (This is where having crisp edges helps.)

-I've increased the brightness on the tall vertical rocks because I assume they're getting more light and have done to the same to all the facing rocks. This creates a stronger contrast.

Overall, this looks really good. All that's left are a few tweaks that will really help sell the material. Don't forget that lasso is your friend here, using it to make crips edges on the rock faces will help you avoid muddy edges.

Anyways, keep going bruh. U got dis.

merry holidays

I've decided to post in these threads everytime they come up. I have come to realize that I kind of need to do this.
There are just too many questions that have been left unanswered and a lot of it keeps me up at night.

Sometimes I wonder what it would have been like if I kept up with my old buddy Forrest Imel, Lancer Idenoure, maybe Choob, or perhaps the Crimson Daggers. But mostly... I am bored and have nobody to talk to.

>>2793098
I'm interested in the dong, do you do stuff like that on the regular?

>>2793027
>sameface

>>2793108

Dude... I've been drawing dicks since I was a kid. The moment you put a writing utensil in my hand, I am right at it.

I've done a few things here and there, even had my own thread here dedicated to the drawing of dicks on classical pieces.
But a lot of my practice is spontaneous and only happens in brief moments of nostalgia. So maybe 5-6 times every 4 months or so do I stir from my deathly slumber to draw something. Might as well be a dick.

>>2793123
well yeah... its my face...

>>2793127
Not that anon but given those experiments you posted I'd really like to see a fully rendered dick by you. I'm trying to get better at drawing them myself.

>>2793141
>Not that anon but given those experiments you posted I'd really like to see a fully rendered dick by you

I'd really like to see that too. I don't typically bring anything to completion so this might be an interesting challenge.

I'll see what I can whip up.

>>2793150
Nice I'll be looking out for it.

>>2793154

RIght to it then.

scrubbing together a draft of something that's been in my head for a while.

>>2793167
I like where it's going so far. I was kind of hoping you'd do erect to see how you handle the taughtness of the skin, but I'm sure I'm going to learn something from this either way.

>>2793171
really nice so far, anon. please post the finished version when you're done.

Trying to loosen up a little

trying to make use of smoother brushes

>>2793010
Thanks so much for this anon, it's indeed helpful, unfortunately I'm doing that study mostly in order to get the hang around the iPad Pro and Procreate so I'm still dealing with things I took for granted with my SP2 and Photoshop. Even so I will try to do my best and follow my advice.

Pic related is another thing I'm doing with the iPad

I posted this a few weeks ago but didn't get any feedback. I want to do a render of this but first I need to figure out the anatomy. I was having a hard time finding the pose, so I used an action figure.

I need help with his left arm, and his lower left leg. I don't know how to orientate them

>>2793284
Are you using a ref? I feel like we should see her vagina like, open and frontal, not facing downward.
I'm more just curious if I'm right or wrong than I am worried about your drawing.

>>2793298
I'm pretty sure she's wearing underwear, look at the waist

>>2793284
This is another sketch, doing this with Sketchbook pro instead. I already posted it in the anime threading didn't receive any feedback,

>>2793300
??
Indeed, I wasn't trying to make her nude but maybe I should make the bottom piece a bit clearer

>>2793220
nice textures and colors, the eyes look a bit too plain maybe a subtle highlight and/or more rendering would be good

blacksmith sketch

>>2793312
no, I get it, i was just responding to the other guy who thought her vagina was in the wrong orientation

>>2793316
Oh..Sorry, I didn't see the message previous to yours

>>2793287
no really, can someone please help

>>2793331
It's very disproportionate, something you can very easily fix, look into and understand the Vitruvian Man so you can use it as a cheat sheet.

Remember that even if you don't find the right pose you can still use several pieces of reference, there are literally no downsides to using reference when drawing.

Currently workin this one out

>>2793353
nice digglets

im new here but heres a rushed christmas drawing for this year

>>2793312
I think working on expressions would really take your stuff to the next level Firez. You're sketches are all solid but all of you're characters just have this deadpan look about them so they don't really sell the scene. Good stuff aside from that tho.

>>2793389
I love it.

>>2793284
her pussy shouldn't be protruding so much since her legs aren't squished together to yieald such results. Stuff like that you see when women's legs are as mashed together as possible, since the fat of the lips doesn't have anywhere to go but out.

how bad are these proportions?

alright it's super late.
I've never done "sexualized" art before, but I have nothing else to do and I haven't drawn women in months.
SO, is there anything god awful that needs immediate fixing? something about the left foot looks screwy, but I don't know

>>2793440
loomis and go to the beginner thread

>>2793444
hey thanks

>>2793098
>>2793256
blog?

>>2793457

I would also like to know about >>2793256. I get the impression that he has some interesting stuff.

Though, I speak for myself when I say that I do not have a blog having withdrawn from most, if not all social media. Granted this is not to say that I have not considered coming back.

>>2793098
>Choob
he posts in las and I think he might be in the las discord too (not sure since I haven't been in the discord for months), but yeah, you could try contacting him through there if you want.

>>2793098
I don't even know what body part that is, but I'd fap to it.

Some environment study

>>2793485
Why did you withdraw from social media? I have been thinking to stop as well, I draw as a hobby and posting my work seems rather pointless...

I should make foreground more contrast...

>>2793617
I'm not an expert but i do have some tips that might help. the plane is under direct light from the sun and even if you plane is white it will still have dark shadows and reflections from the sky/ground. also, I tried to fix the perspective of the plane, I referenced UAVs here because their design is similar to yous. As for the landscape, I added color/value variations to the sky, I also added atmospheric perspective so instead of separating mountains with value i kept them close in value and separated them by adding lighter value fog. I found the bottom row of mountains out of place their color give a melancholy feeling compared to the rest of the image maybe you should try and spread the farm fields across the mountains to give them color. The last thing i did is change the yellow fields to a darker value because they also looked out of place.

>>2791227
update

>>2791229
Thank you. Better this way?

>>2791243
artistic license

>>2791487
literally who

>>2793584
Oh boy! Storytime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg

There was a period where I had become incredibly depressed. I couldn't stand to even look at my own work, feeling like it didn't represent what I had set out to do. This frustration grew as I began to hate everything and everyone.
A few drinking problems later and I all but withdrawn from the world.

I burnt out and didn't really even know about it until later.

I won't say that disappearing is the right thing to do because I still deeply regret it. But in the end it put a lot of things into perspective and gave me the time to experience the world a little bit more.

2 hour shitty painting
Haven't really painted in a while so feeling rusty and slow as hell.
Streamed the process so you can critique my workflow too
twitch.tv siqnerdballr/v/110197235

>>2793925
donot worry anon, I think it look very good

~15 min head study.

Thoughts?

>>2793694

Oh thank you Anon!

>>2793945

Work on your stuff for more than 15 minutes.

>>2793963
What can I improve?

>>2793966

Overall I think that it is okay, but the lineweight makes it look a little flat and the hair belies a strangely shaped head. I would recommend Steve Houston's courses on new masters regarding the structure of the head an the dynamic drapery of hair.

Here is one that may be useful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

Small Leyendecker study and teddy

>>2793755
I love this

What fundamental is this called?
I just realized how badly I've been screwing up. This has ruined every 3/4 head I've ever drawn from imagination.

>>2794097
I just realized an easy way to fix this is to find the center plane of the side of the head using an X in perspective and then building out the form of the ear.

which thumbs works best?
it's supposed to show from afar some mysterious magic ritual creating a tornado of energy.

>>2791709
Closer look at the face.

>>2794130
For me first looks pretty good.

>>2794130
the bottom right feels good to me anon. it has good skyholes between the tornado and the other clouds in the sky, and it doesnt look overly busy.
maybe place some values and strengthen the compositions that way so we get a stronger feel of the overall mood etc.

doing a portrait of my mom. were taking a break right now but its coming out pretty good.

>>2793391
That's a bummer bit you're right, I'm working on fixing that, thx

>>2793407
I hope this is better

>Break down the human body using 3D software
>Learn a large amount and really attain information that books can't give me despite handing me the answer
>Will probably go back through the books and see if I learn anything new from them

Welp, 1 year of progress so far.

not sure where to go with this yet. was mostly trying to work out my colors to start. any ideas would be great

>>2794190
Hands are too small, they are the size of the face.

For the position of the legs and the pelvis not sure, but you should check your reference or post it.

Al menos no es Anime.

>>2791790
you are a good sport fsh

whats wrong with this

any advice would be helpful, especially with the composition

>>2793353
Ain't those eggs from a Ruan Jia piece?

>>2794156
finished it. lets see ruan jia do this XD

>>2794354
ruan jia could shit on this painting and it would improve it, brian. please stop doing this to yourself.

>>2794373
perhaps you haven't seen that other thread? he's pretty terrible. can't into expressive brushstrokes and emotion so he over renders everything. no good taste or common sense makes for an overall unimpressive artist.

>>2794354
your
fucking
backgrounds

>>2794354
Are you joking?

>>2794389
>>2794388
you suck, and he sucks, and you suck more cause you like a guy that sucks. at least he can't help it. you guys could grow up and support real artists like me though.

this is a painting i did of my mother last year around this time. imagine where ill be next year. i won. you can't do anything about me now.

>>2794373
>>2794388
>>2794389
>guaranteed replies
You idiots know what he's doing and you bite anyway yet you wonder why he doesn't stop.

>>2791758
The eyebrows appear a tad short, and something about the eyes makes them look small, likely the iris and the fact that the mouth is wide. I like it though, good job dude

>>2794394
>gr8 b8 brain i r8 8/8
You're not even considered good on this small board, let alone in the arts industry. You know it, Cat knows it, everybody knows it.

>>2794394
Also, have you had any gallery shows?

>>2794430
i'll never get to enjoy my own paintings. thats my only regret :(

I don't spend enough time in the penciling stage, I think. Trying to fix that

>>2790158
So is it true there are no more (you)s???

>>2794659
what do you mean?

>>2791709
It's nice but the neck and shoulders are really flat. Instead of looking at the face i'm looking at how the face seems to not belong to the body.

Any crit?
Using Krita, idk how to do hair properly

>>2794978

I think that hairs are not top priority on list of your problems...

>>2794431
dont....now hes not going to shut the fuck up about the one jew show he did.

>>2794354
he DID do shit like this, back when he just started and didn't know he was shit, but then came years of training.
dont worrie brian, im sure the second bit (years of training to see that you were a pleb) will happen to you and year now.

>>2794978
draw bald people

>>2794354
lol

>>2795106
she looks blind.

wip

>>2794354
why does she look like she's being held at gunpoint, brian?

>>2795106
That paintings pretty bad anon

>>2793167
Post more!

thoughts before I start colouring?

>>2795171
>Dr. Loomis I'm CIA

>>2793171
>>2793213
here's the finished result. i said everything i wanted to say.

patterns and other stuff to follow

>>2795357
what. the fuck. is that face.

>>2795171
where's his right elbow? All I see is a curved noodle

>>2795372
Is that Felicity Jones?

>>2795484
I got the pose from a henry viii painting

can I get a crit? I started with b/w values and put colours on after. How can improve the clarity of the characters?

>>2795458
>butterface

not gonna lie, i really want to commit suikoden for not noticing that.

did i fix it?

>>2795106
not bad desu

>>2795550
I found it, even i the painting his sleeve thickens around his elbow because he's bending it at a single point, not curving it

>>2795582
Face is a lot better. The leg with the snake wrapped around it is very broken though.

Test drawing for the first time this semester. First time colouring on my SP4 too. Lots of fiddling with settings.

tablet not working, don't even know why im posting this shit

>>2793315
began rendering

pls help

>>2795106
not bad at all

wip

>>2796139
very good

30mg adderall got me like creating a persona of a phd prof named chuck roswell who is tired of all the chaos in art and decides to create the official rules of art.

TITLE: Rule #1 or
(A mondrian-eskew in which RRRr/ed 'sin -1 & BBbb/lue 'sin 22 && XXYY/ellow 'sin 67.7667)
ARTIST: Chuck Roswell {Phd in Art+Creation}
YEAR: 2016

>>2796195
the fuck are you going on about this is crayons on printer paper

>>2796197
anon just imagine and have fun. let chuck do his thing.

>>2796195

Rule 2 : an arbritrary assignment of color to number

>>2795485
correct!

>>2796195
>>2796295

Title: Christ with an eye RGB/an eye RBY
2016 Chuck Roswell

>>2796195
>>2796295
>>2796340
pointless drivel... none of this is making you any smarter. humorless, over serious examinations and honestly it makes me annoyed to look at them.

>>2795627
Oh right, I see what you mean, thanks man

Are any of these interesting for a near-future officer?

>>2795138
>brian being jealous.

>>2794354
> lets see ruan jia do this
ruan jia would never make a fool of himself.

>>2796533
he shouldn't have done that sketchbook video then. cause god damn. he's terrible at art. i looked at his website too under the "Training" section? boy howdy. he is the suck.

Finished the skin rendering, not sure about the palette but what do you guys think?

Any comments? I'm not too sure about what environment to put him in, i was thinking underwater.

>>2796575
I enjoy the palette, cool costume design, what's this for?

>>2796392
near future? like what 2050?

>>2796545
we all saw that video, its whats to be expected, its a sketch book.
and im not even agreeing with you, its all sloppy yes, but his worst sloppiest sketch that exists within his oldest crappiest crayon filled book, is still leagues better than your best finished piece, and im taking into account "future brian" too.

even you in 20 years time, will still not amount to the most basic sketch done by Ruan jia.
thats just a fact.

everything you do , in some way or another is just a hack attempt at another famous artists style.
you don't get famous for climbing Everest the same way someone else already has (not to confuse your drawings with doing something hard, like actually achieving the summit of Everest)

only the most basic Doctor Who loving mother fuckers are entertained if only for a brief moment before they forget about your van gogh styled paintings existence.

the days of trail blazing and paying no heed to fundamentals are dead, ten minutes of studying post modernist theory would enlighten you to that, its partly why people just draw bland anime these day (for a majority) its because they accept the fact that every conceivable style of art-making has been achieved to some degree or another and are contempt in drawing anime.

you however think that what you are doing is new, exciting and most pitiful of all, important.

this is not the case.


if you truly want to live from your art, brian, paint what others want to see, not what you want them to see.

who the fuck will buy a sloppily drawn portrait of some random old skeleton looking bitch?

your perspective on the art world is dangerously deluded by romantic aspirations of grandeur.

the days in where artists where capable of saving the world are gone.

art is dead.

draw anime for money.

you fucking loser.

>>2796587
also, inb4 he tldr's this and or ignores the most important points from it and instead focuses on one thing he has some half assed pre meditated response to that his retarded ego constructed the last time reality gave him a hand.

i fucking hate going into the cave for assholes like this.

>>2796582
Thank you! He's just a generic blacksmith for my portfolio

digital beginner, wondering if anyone could help me with rendering I have no idea where to go from here.

>>2796600
make the largest axis on your image a minimum of 1500pixels before posting.

read the threads OP before posting.

>>2796587
>give up

no

>>2796604
yeah I caught that after posting sorry

>>2796607
Never did i once tell brian to "give up".
Merely for him to stop being immature.

but hey, at least you diddnt hit me up with the tldr, progress at-least.

downsized

>>2796625
1500.
one job.

>>2796599
hey man make sure to post when you are done, i definitely wanna see when its finished

>>2796616
you want me to turn into kronprinz. you want me to give up on traditional media and a love of what came before me and fully embrace illustration. you'd rather i never do another traditional painting again and instead study photos digitally for the next 5 years and come out as the next great patreon kid just because you don't think art is regressive, and latching onto what was in vogue in the late 1800s is a dead end, and should instead just give up and make that sweet, sweet over rendered western anime money.

I don't buy it. I don't think the future is digital illustration and concept art. i think that's short sighted, and I have a very firm belief that tastes will slowly go back to what they were in the past.

I'm not ahead of my time, I'm just doing what I think is going to make me the most money in the long term. I don't see long term success doing illustration. I think it's going away sooner than you think, and art like mine ( even if mine isn't the best example) is going to be what's popular again. I don't have any particular attachment to van gogh, or post-impressionism, or any of that stuff. It is simply a risk I am taking that I will have wanted to study these things as I get older because that's where the money will be in the coming years.

I am simply trying to be adaptable. People will be looking for a new van Gogh, or a new Picasso, or a new Cezanne, and I am trying to fill one of those roles, or be somewhere between them.

We don't need more Krons. We don't need more Sakimis. That stuff is going to go away.

>>2796644
jk Rowling will be remembered as this half of history's William Shakespeare.
even tho she is shit.

im sure people that enjoyed "actual literature" thought Rowling would just "go away"

listen to jeff watts opinion on how to do what you are trying to do, its one of his free videos.

>>2796648

different poster here - you mean this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX0MrnzBJ8M

>>2796648
i think I'm not explaining myself well. I'm not saying illustration will go away I'm saying it has legs of maybe 20-40 years, but after that I think what I'm doing will be in favor again.

And not for the reasons you think. It won't be because we loved how that artwork looked, it'll be because we hated the people that made it. I don't think van Gogh was a good person. And that's part of why I have a hard time appreciating his artwork. I want to be better than him in my personal life.

I am more or less dedicated to replacing him or at least doing it right this time because I am convinced that my lifestyle will allow me to accomplish what he failed to do.

I have the same sensitivity to sexuality and poverty that he did, but I am acting on those urges where he gave in to them. I am committed to never having sex or masturbating again unless it is to have a child. I will only have one child. I am attempting to live the perfect life in the minds of women around me. I am atoning for my sins, which is something van Gogh never did. He died a drunk, prostitute loving scumbag who made beautiful paintings. I have cut out everything in my life other than my ear and made art the only thing. Any other comparisons to his artwork other than that are coincidental or possibly just fated to be because I sure as hell don't go out of my way to draw those comparisons.

I am just the start of our regression back to how things used to be.

There will be other people who have the same strong reactions to Cezanne, Picasso, Michelangelo, Dali, etc.

Once all men have done what I've done and neutered their sexuality there will be a worldwide attempt to right the wrongs of our past artistically. Because we can do better than those ass holes.

>>2796682
I'm not seeking God in my artwork, I'm just trying to make van Gogh roll in his grave. Because I can. Cause I have nothing else to do anymore. Art has ruined my life.

>>2796655
inb4 brian declares himself better than watts.

>>2796687
i mean ive already basically declared myself better than van gogh... who the fuck is watts.

>>2796694

>>2796682
brian, you do all this, for what reason?
you die in the end, and for nothing.
the earth is not worth saving, its not unique.
sins? what sins?
sins are not worth atoning for either in the reach of eternity, and if its karma you are talking about, one does not get on a roller-coaster and only expect it to go up...

>Once all men have done what I've done
there you go again, expecting your narrow world view to be the only one.

>I am attempting to live the perfect life in the minds of women around me
why would you bother appeasing every woman, yo do know that some women are trash, just like some men are trash, it makes me wonder why you do not say that you are attempting to live the perfect life in the minds of all "people". but instead you say women, that in itself is a sexualization, as it is not men that you wish to "attract".
and are you telling us, the users of this board that you only intend to have sex purely for procreation or are you just practicing for that one woman that you actually think you have a shot with as a "foot in the door" so to speak.

>i am not like other men m'lady (tips paint splattered fedora), for as you can see i do not prize you as a sexual object and merely wish to participate in the act of sex for the purpose of child bringing only

that seriously sounds like me at the age of 17. i then lost my virginity and all that shit gets tossed out the window. know why brian. because we are animals pretending to be better. we are not. the name of the animal we are is a human.

>I am more or less dedicated to replacing him
you have to be good at painting for that.

>>2796698
Somebody fucking tell the rest of us who brian is already this is a great thread..

Keep it up.

>>2796698
>yo do know that some women are trash
i'd argue all women are trash.

men are better at being women than women are. we're better at being men too. women just suck in general. at both roles.

>sounds like me at 17
and then you give me your "Atheists: 1, Christians: 0" speech.

I don't believe in sins, I just believe in everything and nothing. And that odds are the afterlife opposite this one is just this life backwards... so I better not fuck up and have a good time here if I don't want my future to suck.

>>2796698
>>I am more or less dedicated to replacing him
>you have to be good at painting for that.

>>2796703
>so I better not fuck up and have a good time here if I don't want my future to suck
just think about what you wrote, for a second.

that also means, under that logic, that if you are incorrect here, you are correct there.
thus voiding both.

meaning your entire string of logic just killed itself.

also, than you for just assuming that im an atheist.
im not.
im not religious either.
im me.

>brian: I am atoning for my sins
logic:sins? what sins?
>brian: I don't believe in sins

your debating skills are just as good as your paintings.
>not very good

Its funny and sad at the same time that Brian's name is an anagram for the thing he lacks the most.

>>2796715
Brains name is not an anagram for sex?

>>2796703
souns like someone has mommy issues

>>2796712
im not debating im just talking. it's only an argument if there are two sides.

When I die I will be wrong, and that's why I'm spending this time not having sex. In the afterlife however it works in the specifics I will be having a good time to balance out the bad time I am having now. So if that means I get to be as retarded and revel in my idiocy as you guys I CANNOT FUCKING WAIT. cause god damn. it sucks knowing everything.

>>2796392
I like the third and the last two

well while you guys were shitposting i did a new painting...

>>2796781
>well while you guys were shitposting i did a new painting...
>new
>fruit on table
Your time would've been better spent shitposting

>>2796795

/ic/ ladies and gentlemen.

>>2796795
not even good fruit either just basic ass applea and pears 2/10 doesnt even look appatizing

I dunno what the fuck I'm doing and I want to cry. please send help

>>2796910
Looks good though. I think maybe possibly the ear is a little too far back and/or too low?

>>2796910
the ears pretty fucked but other than that this looks pretty competent keep at it dude

>>2796910
when you look up close the form suggests his face is really narrow and protruding out from his neck. his head would basically be a cereal box in it's current form in the drawing. just in general the form is terrible. this drawing is a mess of perspective and drawing errors. and the terrible ear really betrays that you have no idea how to draw a human head and are symbol drawing your way to freedom.

>>2796910
i would say make the left size a little darker and fix or remove the lighting from the hair strand

>>2796925
Lmao you're 100% right about me guessing about everything. I have no clue what I'm doing most of the time. Is it worth it to try to fix the perspective mistakes or am I too far gone and need to start over? Should I go to the beginner thread? I don't know what to do

>>2796781
why do you keep coming back here?

>>2796910
Several anatomy and proportional issues.
Another thing to look out for is be really careful with how you render the nose, there's a fine line between angular and full out plastic surgery nose.

need halp refining and fixing bad choices please.

>>2797009
in all fairness hanzo has a fucked up
nose already but the nose here looks more
accurate

>>2797009
not bad

>>2796925
>>2797009
One of the things I hate most about this place. You get so wrapped up in the technical aspects of things you'll blow right past whether or not something *looks* good.
>>2796945
I really wish you wouldn't buy into the idea that harsh critique = honest critique. I hope you save yourself and get some confidence in your work before you turn into a self defeating mess of a perfectionist who never gets anything done. I'm not saying all critique here is useless but you need to be able to separate the wheat from the chaff to get anything out of it, that's all I'll say.

>>2796682
I'm not the anon you were talking to earlier, nor am I trying to be condescending or antagonistic;
the way you seem to think doesn't sound particularly healthy.
Have you ever been to a therapist or psychiatrist?

Help me decide some poses plz

Basically these are two like, really athletic characters, one of which is going to be pitching a rock or something, for the other figure I wanted to either have him vaulting over the first guy's shoulder or just generally doing something athletic while moving past

>>2797065
I'M A FAGGOT

>>2797066
3, 8 and 10 are the most aesthetically pleasing ones to me, also the ones that have a better use of space.

It all depends on if you want a more realistic approach to it, something that would occur naturally or if you're going for that "ideal" pose.

>>2795186
I love it when /tv/ makes an appearance on other boards.
>>2794430
>cats know it
harsh, man.

>>2793694
>>2793617
The moon and its shadow need to follow the same shading logic as Jupiter. The moon looks like it's only a few miles away. Haze that shit to oblivion broski.

>>2796644
You can paint whatever the hell you want but lose the fucking ego. Like the other guy said, the most pitiful thing about everything I've read coming from you is that you seem to think you're important. ... and important for what? Literally copying a famous painter.

I want to fucking die just from typing that.

>>2796682
This entire wall of text does sincerely reek of some sort of mental problem. Really, seriously, go see a therapist.

>>2796781
Could have at least painted a pineapple.

Pineapple best fruit.

I don't have a crit but it looks nice

>>2796754
THIS delusional.

>>2796575
hey, thats pretty good

>>2796781
you obviously do not post for critts...

hmm i was right in my first thought, chunbum is a far greater painter than you.
far greater artist i should say.

>measurement issues
>can't paint for the life of me

I hate sucking massive fucking ass, but I'll doing this anyway. Any thoughts on how to improve, I'm going to be drawing a lot of skulls to fix the proportional errors. and maybe tracing over some stuff to see where things line up.

>>2797361
i'll keep*

>>2796644
>People will be looking for a new van Gogh, or a new Picasso [...]
>We don't need more Krons. We don't need more Sakimis.
I'd argue that Kr0n and Sakimi have more artistic merit since they're not literally memes

Drawing planes is relaxing desu

>>2797392

color bros, plz help me.

>>2796910
>>2797009

>>2797630
your lines got thinner. good for you.
>>2797648
you are taking "feel the form" too literally. try to draw what you are looking at not this gestural nonsense...

>>2797803
faggots lines have always been thin when he gives 2 shits about what hes drawing, other than that its just the same old shit he draws.

>>2797066
The pose of the chucker in 2/7/12 is strongest imo, while the spear thrower in 3 is solid

>>2797630
push the darks, push the lights, push the colors. it's all about 60% grey except for the black shadows.

>>2797361
proportion and measurement errors aren't necessarily bad, as long as you lean into it. tighten up the likeness in the eyes, mouth, and face shape/form and honestly you can reorganize features as much as you want.

sometimes it even adds character to otherwise boring portraiture, but you have to be able to recognize when you are making "mistakes". or if you make a "mistake" with where a feature should be at least draw it well.

you were fairly close in your picture, you just need to take a step back and evaluate what you've put down so far. try to take yourself out of what you've already done and not be precious with the lines you've made.

I will say though, the colors you put down for the most part are accurate. I colorpicked what you already had to make these changes.

>>2797891
Thanks for the crit anon, i'm out to work now, but working on another study. Gonna try and apply what you've said with it, will post in the thread when I get a chance.

>>2797935
its hard to be new to drawing. i understand the frustration. im pretty new to being able to draw exactly what im looking at its something i've been obviously working towards but the memories of fucked proportions and anatomy are too fresh in my memory.

I wouldn't want to be in your shoes, but I completely empathize with "I know the line I'm looking at but when I draw it it's wrong".

Advice like "erase and redraw until it looks right" don't help people in your position because it's honestly just better to start a new piece at that point.

So that's all I can tell you. Draw and draw and draw and don't worry about getting it right just put your focus into every piece and trust that the more you do it the better you'll get.

Idk

tear my shit up

>>2798001
it's good to be painterly. it's bad to just start scribbling and call it detail.

>>2798002
how do i avoid this next time, should i just spend more time building up to the detail, or am i fucked

should i study more of these grandma's house ornaments like pic related

>>2798028
you can avoid this by designing. do preliminary sketches of each part at different angles to get a feel for what exactly you want it to look like. try to be clever about it. don't just block in a brown and scribble some gold on top of it, really think about why each accent is there. If that means your designs have to be simpler as a result so be it.

as it is it's hard to even tell if the design of this guy is symmetrical, and for the parts like the gauntlet it's really hard to make out exactly what the design is even supposed to be.

>>2798033
gauntlet?...the shield?

>>2798033
thank you for the advice, i really appreciate it.

I don't feel competent enough to keep working on this one, so i think i'll just scrap it and try incorporating some design work into my workflow.

Can someone point what things are wrong

>>2798056
Most of it looks pretty good. On the middle one I'd say the shoulder on the left is a bit too far to the left and the breast as well. Both breasts seem a tad high as well. Bottom right corner's night but you made the mistake of having the back/farther thigh coming right out of the hip instead of below it. If you look at a skeleton you'll see the top of the leg bone connects at the bottom of the pelvis, not the top, so you want a solid section for the hips before the legs start. The top and bottom middle have many problems but just keep studying and you'll get better at figures like those.

Need crit and advice on this one, /ic/

>>2798080
Thanks for the crit anon. I have life study lesson but the model is an middly Old muscular man. But I definitely need to study more. I try to work with the less references possible but I'm not sure if it's me being stubborn or stupid.

>>2798095
Lineweight would add much to it, try to vary your lines more. Look on Moebius, he's a Master of it.

>>2798103
As someone who's spent years trying to draw without references let me tell you, use references. Take time to draw without them for sure because that's how you develop style and get comfortable enough to draw freely. But the more I've progressed with art the more useful I've realized reference is. It adds so much more enriching detail than you can ever remember. While you're still learning be exact about following your references and life models to drill in the base info to start free drawing, then later use reference loosely to enhance things. That's my suggestion anyway.

>>2798106
googled but dont get nothing good, have blog or something to check it?

>>2798107
Yeah, you're probably right. Lazyness is kill

>>>2798110

>>2798110
>>2798116
holy fuck i'm retarded
here: >>>2786572

>>2798112
Good to hear, you'll be way better for it.

>>2796575
Did the base rendering, still have to add textures, merge the outline with the color and refine some sketchy borders.

It bothers me that it looks like I only have one style of shading... if that makes sense.

>>2797243
Thank you!

do you rike it

>>2798200
Yes, i do like it anon

gj

>>2798200

Time to add bright highlights, light shadows and darker darks bro.

>>2798455
???

>>2797852
thanks, i see what you mean, it was all too much the same value all over. this helps.

>>2798457
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