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This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, have fun!

Fresh off the Mayflower? Then do yourself a flavor and check out /ic/s complementary subordinate sticky here:
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj
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>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
>List of active livestreams
Use twitch #creative
>fellowBro's books
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial/Reference Collection
http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Japanese Tutorials
http://iradukai.com/
deji e no bunpo playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKZrlE6oUGx4Mh1zJLnKLc1SDPJfsoxnS
>Figures
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/
>Pose Practice
http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html

Happy Holidays minna san!

>> No.2782265
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No porn thread?

>> No.2782283

Oh boy a new thread to shitpost in

>> No.2782486
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2782486

just say something

>> No.2782504

>>2782486
A cute
But the one arm looks buff AF more than it looks like a fluffy hoodie, because you made the bulges face upwards instead of having the extra fluff hang downwards.

>> No.2782519
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>>2782504
thanks anon for your help. ill keep this in mind next time i make puffy jackets

>> No.2782544
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Alright, reposting this work in progress from the previous thread. Now, the way the hair hangs over the indent in the mattress is my main concern, as I feel the torso's flatness isn't really something I can change until I figure out a shirt print to show curving.

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<<<<<<<<

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some heads

>> No.2782607
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i love milt kahl

>> No.2782608

>>2782265
No, check the rules and neck yourself.

>> No.2782616

>>2782584
Is this your style or something? I'm reminded of the ancient Incan practice of strapping boards to baby heads to stretch them out, and not in a good way.

>> No.2782618

>>2782607
Nice desu, I'm digging the linework on the whiskers in particular. Maybe add more depth to the hat, as it seems too flat towards the upper right.

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quickly slapped some colors, any advice?
(for the expression, I've saved your work anon-kun and will fix that in the end).

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doing some thumbnails for a bg painting.

>> No.2782741

>>2782618
thank you. yes definitely, this is a sketch.

>> No.2782754
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Added flats.

>>2782607
this is excellent, i just wanna squish his face! The way his hat is drawn however, doesn't really fit the rest of the image. Give it more weight.

>>2782630
colors are mostly fine. lighten the girl's leggings/skirt. they're too dark.

>>2782664
lookin good so far

>> No.2782755

>>2782630
those faces are unsettling

>> No.2782757

>>2782697

pls respond

>> No.2782759

>>2782755
could you be more specific?
how should I change things?

>> No.2782776

>>2782759
1. vacant thousand yard stares (where are they even looking?)
2. neutral expressions
3. eyes have no shine (although I have seen people not use eye shine and still avoid a sense of soullessness, I think overall expression has a greater effect over this)

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>>2782664
and some doodles

>> No.2782791

>>2782776
Oh ok, but as I said I quickly slapped the colors so I didn't spend much time on faces yet.
I thought it was about the bastard anime stylization that I used, as I'm still uncomfortable myself about it.
thank you for your well-thought comment.

>>2782754
ok!

>> No.2782937

>>2782757
>>2782100
it's shit
read a book
read the sticky

>> No.2782952

>>2782937
Its anime-style, its suppose to look like that

>> No.2782958

>>2782952
look like shit?

>> No.2783004

I never understand why people around here recommend the beginner thread. That thread is fucking depressing and shit and simply consists of people posting boring reference portraits and the likes and telling you to study loomis over and over again. It's as if it was a big circle of friends never ever graduating ever from being tasteless and shit at art.

If you want to improve you need a goal and something motivating you, and if you're reading my message chances are what motivates you is alt/anime style, so stay here, experiment and learn. If you need good books and resources go the book thread, but avoid the beg thread like the plague.

>> No.2783017

>>2783004

People recommend the beginner thread only to help them, not demotivate them.

>> No.2783019

>>2783004
we send people to the beginner thread because what would benefit them the most is the continued study of fundamentals. Too bad if it's depressing over there, we all have to go through that shit.

>> No.2783029

>>2782952
Anatomy is shit regardless

>> No.2783035

>>2783029
Its anime-anatomy, it looks different..

>> No.2783053

>>2783035
get off /ic/ if you can't handle crit

>> No.2783077

>>2783004
>simply consists of people posting boring reference portraits
because you should start with the fundamentals?

>> No.2783085

>>2782787
nice lines

>> No.2783190

>>2783053
not the guy you replied to but learn how to give actual criticism you stupid fuck.

>> No.2783282
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sup~

>> No.2783334

>>2782608
Which rule? /ic/ is a NSFW board and there has usually been porn threads here.

>> No.2783358
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2783358

>>2782754
Anatomy issues.

>> No.2783366

>>2783190
>this triggered
Confirmed for the retard weeb. Your "anime" drawing is dogshit. Do the world a favor and smash your hand with a hammer

>> No.2783368

>>2783282
Whoa, you're actually really good now. H-how? It's only been like 3 months.

>> No.2783388

>>2783358
I appreciate the redline, anon! I actually fixed the face/head prior to seeing this. But The legs were giving me trouble so I'll definitely change that area. But it looks like you've changed the pose & physique considerably?

>> No.2783394

>>2783368
Wouldnt say hes good but definitely made some art gains man. not half bad, thought he died/quit drawing

>> No.2783399

>>2783388
>But it looks like you've changed the pose & physique considerably?
I wouldn't say considerably but you have to remember that you have to have room for every muscle (unless you're going for a heavily stylized drawing), the legs and buttocks contain some of the biggest muscles in our body and on top of that how those muscles interact with each other, this is just my take on it as making it more "realistic" makes it easier to draw proportions correctly.

As for the pose it's just something I'd thought would have more flow to it, you don't have to copy directly but see what differs and make changes that /you/ think will improve the drawing.

>> No.2783540

>>2783282
Study hips. Your characters have no hips.

>> No.2783600
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2783600

Is the head too big or am I tripping balls ? I've been staring at it for so long flipping it doesn't help anymore.

>>2782664
Loving them, looks like a chill setting albeit the wyvern.

>> No.2783602

>>2783600
what is that left arm
what even is perspective
what are those legs
why are you using gradient shading
this is like one of those optical illusions from a book
pls mang im sure you can do better, look at more pose references

>> No.2783606

>>2783600

Yeah, head is much too big, but the torso is about one head too short too. Also you got some weird thing going on where one leg is shorter than the other, i get that you were going for foreshortening but its notnworking.

>> No.2783692

>>2783600
dude start we structure lines, simple skeleton lines and you'll understand what wrong with this drawing

>> No.2783788

>>2783399
alright, that makes sense. Thanks for all your help!

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>> No.2783995

>>2783282
nice

>> No.2784007

>>2783892
nose is flat, like someone just drew a nose on face.
if you are gonna render, do it right and render everything.

>> No.2784012 [DELETED] 

Barkode: that arm looks too short. you didn't really capture the foreshortening that's supposed to happen.

>> No.2784275

>>2784007
>like someone just drew a nose on face.

fucking retard can't even give proper criticism kek

>> No.2784291

>>2784275
>can't even properly criticize someone else's criticism

>> No.2784304

>>2783368
>>2783394


Thanks! well actual mindful studies

It's not like i disappeared, it's just that i stay at the secret discord 2

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finished this for what it's worth

>> No.2784328

>>2784304
What kind of "actual mindful studies" senpai? Teach me your ways.

>> No.2784329

>>2784328
GESTURE
GESTURE
GESTURE
GESTURE

ANATOMY
ANATOMY
ANATOMY
ANATOMY

REFERENCE
REFERENCE
REFERENCE
REFERENCE


and copy a lot your favourite artist while getting destroyed by critics

>> No.2784334

>>2784329
Thanks senpai, I hope to see more of your work in the future.

>> No.2784335

>>2784275
you're the smarty-pants who can't even paint a nose

>> No.2784348

>>2784329
Huh, would your favorite happen to be Sody? Your sketches remind me a lot of his, by the proportions.

>> No.2784355
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>> No.2784369

>>2784348
not my favourite artist but yeah in that session i studied him


My favourite artists are kantoku and peco

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>>2783004
>why do people recommend drawing fundamentals?
>they should just keep badly drawing anime

>> No.2784391

>>2784311
Gorgeous

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>>2782787
great stuff

>> No.2784516

>>2784311
Give your blog already!!!

>> No.2784536
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>>2782011 Thanks for the suggestion, went ahead to make it darker for the pillars.

1. How do I paint so that it has a nice texture? Feel like the coloring looks unfinished
2. Is there a better way to make that yukata "flow"? I'm bad at anatomy and clothing in general

>> No.2784538

>>2783004
Because we're shit at drawing, shit at teaching, shit at critique and on top of that we're terrible people with zero social acumen, all that's left is yelling "Loomis" at each other.

>> No.2784542

Idea's for drawing detailed noses on attractive/beautiful girls? Preferably face on.

>> No.2784630

>>2784516
the closest I have to a a blog is
https://twitter.com/Yilxaevum

>> No.2784724
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warm up sketchshit to wake me up

>> No.2784729

>>2782065
how the fuck are your lines so fucking clean? the whole thing doesn't look like you put too much time in it

>> No.2784831
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Something for a couple of anons over on /ink/ (/nintyg/)
I miss being drawfriend

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2784890

i have a shitty scanner
drew it with liners
what do you think?

>> No.2784920
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2784920

All I can do for today til after tomorrow.

>> No.2784978

>>2784890
If you're going to use ink/hatching, then fucking use hatching. Don't add a few texture lines and then call it shading. Your drawing is completely flat. Use thicker lines where you know it's darker or where you want to add more weight or depth. Use thinner lines for the opposite effect. Identify your lightsource. actually study how to draw with ink before you waste half a bottle just filling in negative space. You could have added more stars, nebulae, anything, besides just some random astronaut floating in space. He doesn't even have a cable to tether him to his ship.

>> No.2784984

>>2784920
get out of your comfort zone

>> No.2784989
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2784989

updated legs

>> No.2784995

>>2784989
I have to say: I find this deeply unsettling.
when I was looking at the redline's work, my gf passed behind and went "dafuck?!"

>> No.2784997

>>2784995
why is that?

>> No.2784999

>>2784997
you really don't see?

>> No.2785001

>>2784999
I'm asking aren't I?

>> No.2785003

>>2785001
but this is a very suggestive pose of a cute boy, half naked with a childish look...

>> No.2785006

>>2785003
He is 18+, its okay

>> No.2785008

>>2785003
So then I think there is context that you're missing here.
It's a reference to a specific scene in the anime Yuri on Ice. Yes, there is a kind of lewdness here, but its a daki design so of course thats going to be part of the design.
The character is not underaged, and is not meant to look childish. Rather, he's just supposed to look like a happy drunk (the colored version has an obvious flush) He's missing his pants because he just got finished winning a pole dancing competition.

>> No.2785010

>>2785003
>half naked with a childish look...

MODS GET IN HERE

>> No.2785011

>>2785008
that's definitely not something I'm gonna watch.

>> No.2785012

>>2785011
whatever floats your goat anon

>> No.2785098
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2785098

>>2784989
>yaoi hands are real

>> No.2785100

>>2785098
>replies with yuri hands

>> No.2785101 [DELETED] 

>>2785100
At least the thread is balanced now in terms of hand size?

>> No.2785151
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2785151

????

>> No.2785218

>>2784729
Big canvas (usually around 3-4k px) and lots of undoing lines that I don't like, I use a 17 px sized brush for the whole thing and then add the line-weight.

Just don't settle for lines you don't like and you'll develop your wrist to always do confident-looking lines.

>> No.2785231

>>2785151
I love the way you draw feet and hands, any artists you use as reference? Or could you draw them so I can use them as reference?

>> No.2785235

>>2784311
Something's off about her legs... specially the ankle area

>> No.2785274
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>>2785231
I only use reference when Im really struggling with an angle, but generally I'll just start with basic shapes. pic related.

Then once i have the basic shape down I'll put lineart on top of it, and then add and remove with a brushtip type pen till it looks ok.

please don't use a drawn picture as reference please use an actual model or photo

>> No.2785344

>>2785231
>>2785274
Yaoi hands is right, only do construction or real-life references. I'm just having fun with a nickname, by the way, since I don't know what to call him and that was the only flaw I found.

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>>2785344
I shall bare the name proudly anon

>> No.2785761

>>2785218
Ok thx, I also undo a lot and that's kinda annoying

>> No.2785797

>>2784304
>secret

were glad youre gonna kohai

>> No.2785876

>>2783004
oh learning art isnt all rainbows and butterflys?

no shit you dumb fuck

>> No.2785878

>>2783035
you are a fucking dumbass, you art is shit, the lines are terrible the anatomy is very inaccurate, anime style is still accurate even if it is exaggerated, stop trying to get good at art if you can handle basic critique you inbreed.

>> No.2785881

>>2784304
whoa you got a link, i love me some art discord

>> No.2785884

>>2782608
Do you even realize the color of this board is red-ish means NSFW.

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>>2782630
quick edit. better color imo

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>>2784311
looks good but
is this any better? It looked way too reddish

>> No.2785979

For those who use SAI.
What brush are you using?

How do you smooth out your values? >>2783945

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>>2785979
Smoothing values like here >>2783945

Or pic related.

>> No.2785995

>>2785895
thanks, good catch.
the colors on the dog were too muted also, but changing the blue really improves the harmony.

>> No.2786070

>>2785991
>>2785979
There's a blending tool that people use

>> No.2786074

>>2784831
it's really cute, Anon

>> No.2786278
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>>2784724
Don't give me that bullshit. I know where this is from, you fat goddamn pimp bastard.
>>>88555361

>> No.2786339

>>2786278
That was meant to link back to /co/ by the way.

>> No.2786347

>>2786278
how do i view it

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>> No.2786351

>>2785151
the neck looks weird. it feels like it's connected to the torso too far back.

>> No.2786352
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2786352

>>2786347
From /co/.

>> No.2786356

>>2786352
what if it's just the same guy?

>> No.2786358

>>2784984
I'd like to know how much I'm I still in the comfort zone, if you can tell that I am with this pic. Is it just the "sameface"iness of it? Or should I push the expressions more or something? If it's for the latter, it's just the frontal emotions, as I have to do the side view of the character still to play around with that. It's all rough ideas really, nothing fully fleshed out. I'd like some feedback on what you mean.

>>2786278
If you mean from this thread >>88522142; I posted that pic there first because that's where I got the idea to draw it from and it was the first thing I did when I got up that morning. I posted it here as well for this thread too, for the sake of any feedback on it.

>> No.2786359

>>2786356
I am that artist. And apparently you can't link back to archived threads anymore. Or I thought you could before.

>> No.2786361

>>2786359
wait a minute..

this guy
>>2786358
says he's the artist? did he trace your drawing or something?

>> No.2786363

>>2786348
no... don't do this to best grill

>> No.2786369

>>2786361
I made both of those comments dude. I just didn't see >>2786356 post before I posted the first comment.

>> No.2786371

>>2786348
I..Is she normal sized?

>> No.2786372

>>2785919
it definitely gives off a more unsettling vibe than the other, dunno if thats what you were going for

>>2786358
I mean don't just draw faces or heads. Draw the whole body, draw different poses. theres more to expressions than just faces, theres body language.

>> No.2786388

>>2786372
> theres more to expressions than just faces, theres body language.
You do have a point, if anything that could be even more "experimentive" to get a better grasp on the character's personality... I guess after work I'll try doing that for the next character I'm currently working on, instead of just the facial work. Thanks.

>> No.2786399

My niggas, I need help on facial expressions, any tips or references on improving them?

>> No.2786404

>>2786399
Draw from life.

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>>2786404

>> No.2786456

>>2786447
ooh I member!

>> No.2786459

>>2786399
make funny faces in the mirror and observe them

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>> No.2786469

>>2786460
its cute but her head is really big
Try drawing her head under her hair and see if it looks right to you

>> No.2786470

>>2786469
so you just ASSUME the thickness of hair? are you really THAT stupid?

>> No.2786474

>>2786469
Yea, head is big, but it looks fine for me.

>> No.2786490

>>2786469
I can see what you mean, but if anything that anon could just lower the top of the hair, just a bit. I like hair with volume on females, you don't normally get that oftenly enough.

>> No.2786492

>>2786460
>>2786469
I agree that the forehead seems to be bulging outward a bit too much

>> No.2786499

>>2786415
it's a bit hard to tell which leg is in front. You can try adding a little bit of a white outline where the legs overlap for better definition. That knight has an abnormal stride, search up walk cycles and study leg placement. Also, where the frick are the knees? it's hard to tell because of the silhouetting. the lower leg looks way to long

>> No.2786505

>>2786415
why are both legs in the shadow. the one closest to the viewer should be at least partially in the light if to be consistent with the rest of the knight

>> No.2786527

>>2786470
>so you just ASSUME the thickness of her hair?
I'm not assuming anything, I'm just using my fucking eyes
So, instead of saying her head looks too big, you want me to say
>oh well I'm sure anon just means for her hair to be that thick, even though her hair doesn't look that thick at all and it looks like she has a megamind head, silly me assuming things!!

>> No.2786536

>>2786527
>even though her hair doesn't look that thick
it does look THAT thick though
person's head CANNOT grow beyond a certain size, but hair CAN
if you are a human you would KNOW that

>> No.2786539

>>2786460
>>2786536
the bit of exposed forehead on the left and the eyebrows being so high make her head look big

>> No.2786540

>>2786536
It doesn't look that thick to me. I guess I'm just a robot. please forgive me

>> No.2786556

>>2786351
its anime, its suppose to be that way

>> No.2786561

Why do most in these thread draw bodies so fucking weird? I get its style and all but like in no way proportions/perspective should look that fucking warped. Can we please just send like everyone that does a weird drawing in here right back to the beginner thread?

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>>2782607

>> No.2786586

>>2786539
yeah i can agree with that, i guess

>> No.2786589

>>2786561
Aren't you mixing up "weird" with dynamic poses?

>> No.2786598

>>2786564
I like the glowy cell shading. that one fold on the back of the hand seems a little odd.

>> No.2786600

>>2786589
I know what dynamic poses are but its not that. Shit looks awful, like its someones first drawing orsomething

>> No.2786723
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>>2786363
you can't blame me man, look at this snippet of official info.
>>2786371
for now

>> No.2786838

>>2786348
>>2786725
What is this from? And what is that book?

>> No.2786857
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>> No.2787153

>>2786460
I really like your strokes, anon. What brush did you use for the hair (hopefully CSP)?

>> No.2787162

>>2786564
those colors are really gross to me, but im not sure why

>> No.2787164

>>2786857
absolutely no variation in eyes and eyebrows in any of the faces except for the lewd ones. is she dead inside?
Also, do studies of actual human heads from different angles, cause that up angle is fucked.

>> No.2787170

>>2786460
head's too big like other anons are saying, Brushwork is messy. when hatching try and keep all your lines moving in the same direction. Only switch it up if you're cross hatching, and even then, your lines still need to be flowing in the same directions. Think of your light source and how the light plays against the surface before choosing where to hatch and what direction the lines should point. And I would recommend finding a pen that doesn't blob/bloat so easily when working with hair, it throws the texture off.

>> No.2787179

>>2782630
The girl and boys faces have zero expression.
They look like dolls.
Give them some emotion.

>> No.2787193

>>2786725

New Pokemon designs are really nice.

>> No.2787211

>>2787153
Hard round brush with 100% opacity and size control with pressure. Should be available in any program. I used SAI.

>> No.2787325

>>2787164
Shit, you're right about everything. But I can't for the love of god understand how to translate low angle to this stylized garbage because any attempts to draw in the chin/jaw/more detailed neck fuck it up instantly.

>> No.2787414

>>2787211
Thanks!

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>>2786725
>stronk loli

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>> No.2787575

>>2787562
1. Base skin is too yellow. Go for redder even if it doesn't look right eventually.
2. Never go straight down the color wheel when making shadows. Make it even redder
3. Core shadows don't belong on cute girl faces. You can have some under the chin, under the nose under the bottom lip etc but everything beyond that should be way more subtle.
4. Loomis.

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>>2787179
is it still as bad?
I basically just added shine, but when trying to tweak the expressions in colors it looked too scary, so I ended up with keeping them as is.

>> No.2787647

>>2787604

just disengage from it for a week and then come back to look at it.

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>>2787647
yeah, I have plenty of work to keep me occupied for now.

>> No.2787790

>>2787767
you really have to pracitce drawing faces man

>> No.2787793

>>2787790
I know I know :'-(
still suck at it though

>> No.2787794

>>2787793
keep going mang you can do it

>> No.2787799

>>2787794
Not if you keep coddling him he wont.

>> No.2787802

>>2787799
is there some "quick" thing to improve at chinese stylisation?
definitely struggling with it. I'm trying to get the 20+ pages done as quick as possible but faces suck in a lot of them.

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>> No.2787823

>>2787817
I hope you don't get lazy with the rendering of the people, making them look realistic in contrast with the loli would make for an interesting piece

>> No.2787899

>>2787604
to fix the expressions you should be changing the lineart first, color second. eye shine does improve it slightly, but like many anons have told you before, you need to give them expression. if you don't want them to look scary then give them a smile, jesus it's not rocket science.

>> No.2787901

>>2787817
Could be a very nice piece if you put a little more effort into rendering.

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>>2786723

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>>2787162
yeah? well you know that's just like ,your opinion, man.

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>> No.2788224

>>2788168
holy shit please tell me you draw lewds of men

>> No.2788228

>>2787817
Nice composition, imposing perspective with good framing. I really like it. Glad to see you're experimenting with composition and different angles.

Her tongue isn't very visible, didn't see it at first. You don't really need it, but if you want it to read well you might want to move the little person out of the way a bit maybe? Dunno, that's my only complaint, it's good overall

>> No.2788244

>>2788207
> opinion

Nah dude. I liked the sketch, but rendering and coloring wise it's weak.

The lines are just bad. Study the ones of good artists and lineweight. The main problem I see on the left drawing is that there is too much variations of lines, and it's not placed well.

The color choice and shadow placement are really lacking too. It just doesn't looks looks interesting, why limit yourself to two tones? You're not doing an animation aren't you?

>> No.2788328
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2788328

how does this look so far
any glaring mistakes?

>>2785151
>>2782787
>>2786415
>>2788208
blog pls

>> No.2788371

>>2782240
Who the fuck is minna?

>> No.2788383

everyone

>> No.2788423

>>2786838
Please respond. I'd like to know the book or page it's from. I got it's Pokémon.

>> No.2788441

>>2788383
>everyone

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>> No.2788457

>>2788442

looks cool.

>> No.2788487

>>2788208
Nice. I'm strugging to read what the fuck is going on behind her though. Is she back to back with someone whose head is a literally what?

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>>2788487

>> No.2788490

>>2788489
Oh I see. Creepy.

>> No.2788501
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2788501

Hey guys can I get a crit on how I'm doing on this piece so far? my initial rough thumbnail is on the left. I'm in the middle of laying down some linework. Is the perspective on the figures ok? Is Rick looking too stiff?

>> No.2788522
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bunnygirl

>> No.2788528

>>2788522
Blog?

>> No.2788553

>>2788501
rick is a bit stiff, but honestly not to the point that changing it would add enough to justify the time it will take to change. I'd say keep going and when you finish put it on /r/rickandmorty for easy followers.

>> No.2788600

>>2788522
>bunny girl
>Milk and not carrot/veggie juice
missed opportunities

>> No.2788606

>>2788522
legs seem fine at a glance, but when you actually focus on them, they look fucking awful. That is NOT what tights do, they don't turn your legs into christmas hams.

>> No.2788607
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2788607

tfw i cant post in the normal draw thread now.

what have i become.
regardless, working on a brown elf oc, after trying a few different styles of faces, i landed on this.

>> No.2788670
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2788670

WIP, trying to finish a work that's not a study. Any glaring mistakes before I render it more? Have I reach the minimum requirement start a tumblr?

Making lineart is more time consuming than I think, oh man I still haven't refine the hair, perhaps I should try the vector pen tool next time instead of Ctrl+Z all the time.

>> No.2788683

>>2787817
I smiled when I saw thumbnail

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>> No.2788809
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2788809

another try to study negative shape

>> No.2788827

>>2788553
Alright. Thanks for the advice

>> No.2788836

>>2787817
most appealing face you've done

>> No.2788843

>>2788836
i dont see any difference

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depthy sketches

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>tfw to lazy to draw arms

>> No.2788907

>>2788851
too shit you mean

>> No.2788909

>>2788809
cute af senpai

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feel free to crit my ass

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>>2788907

>> No.2788924

>>2788528
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=367529

>>2788600
but she's stacked like a cow

>>2788606
No, I know that fishnets don't clamp down that tightly on legs irl, but I saw HTK do it once in an illustration and I liked it, so I did it myself. I mean, it is stylization general.

>> No.2788925

>>2788913
i dont see an ass there

>> No.2788950

>>2782787
hey Zedig

>> No.2788965

>>2788809
>>2786460
How do I draw girls as cute as you do?

>> No.2788992

>>2788809
Whoa dude, cranial capacity's off the charts.
Also I think there's a bit too much space between the eyes. Definitely won't hurt to move her left eye towards her nose.

>> No.2789020
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20min sketch, any critique to improve ?

>> No.2789025

>>2789020
wtf is wrong with her nose? Burn victim?

>> No.2789026

>>2788992
You cannot into moe proportions.

>> No.2789027

>>2789025
She's Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer.
Can't you tell?

>> No.2789029

>>2788992
you've been giving the same criticism for many years already, are you mentally retarded?

>> No.2789031

>>2789020
Kys tumblr scum

>> No.2789035

>>2789020
Try moving her nose (together with bridge), mouth and left eye slightly to the left, see if you like it.

>> No.2789045
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>>2789026
Maybe that's the case. I'm boring and I don't like airheads.

>>2789029
Hello who is this.

>> No.2789050

>>2789045
i've been coming on /ic/ for many years and that faggot always comments on head size like an OCD

>> No.2789052
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>>2789045
It's not as simple as using the lasso tool and moving the cranial mass down; now you have to correct the facial proportions as well.

>>2789050
To be fair the original did remind me of pic related

>> No.2789055

>>2789052
post your art, i dare you
chances are you don't belong in stylization thread

>> No.2789059

>>2789055
>>2789052
Actually I thought exactly the same as this guy, the style is cute and negative space is really fine, but the head looked like there were a baby alien in it

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>>2789055

>> No.2789064

>>2789060
MODS

>> No.2789072

>>2789020
>>2789025
Nah, more like frostbite. Blood-flow is returning to the damaged area, leaking out of the damaged capillaries into the skin. It'll quickly turn black then fall off in a few hours.

>> No.2789133

>>2789020
>>2789072
definitely has some rotting flesh vibes

>>2788809
improvement

>>2788924
bad taste confirmed

>> No.2789139
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had a go at making something manga style

>> No.2789154

>>2789139
>had a go at making something manga style
No, you didn't.

>> No.2789161

>>2789133
not really an improvement, just paid more attention to construction this time
>>2788965
study your favourite artist, who draws cute grills

>> No.2789197

>>2789139
I want so see more anon

>>2789154
thank you for your input retard, but manga isn't just naruto and weeaboo shit, there are ton of artists who don't follow the degeneration of tezuka's style, they still are doing manga.

>> No.2789200

>>2789197

you left /co/ and need to go back

>> No.2789201

>>2789200
I went on /co/ once and it was so cucked it put this board into perspective.

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>>2789201
>cucked
/co/fag fuck off back to /co/umblr

>> No.2789243
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Something I did for fun today

>> No.2789268
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I don't know how guns work

>> No.2789269

>>2789268
(pssst... Then find a reference for it)

>> No.2789285

>>2789243

I'm sure it'll do wonderfully on tumblr, anon.

>> No.2789297

>>2789045
While I appreciate the sentiment fully, someone who is depressive might be better served in not disparaging the happy.

Not that anon, and I disagree with him btw

>> No.2789314

>>2789139

looks more giraud/bande desinee than manga fampai

>> No.2789323

>>2788607
it looks kinda flat, you should work on your shading more
but overall very nice concept
>>2788670
it's good but you need to pay more attention to the form of her head + her left hand
>>2788687
blog please
>>2788913
i really like that one-pixel brush lining

>> No.2789327
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>>2789269
I want to see what I can pull from my memory first then i will use a ref

>> No.2789328
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sketch i did for a friend.

>> No.2789332

>>2789328
brag about having friends somewhere else

>> No.2789347

>>2789332
i just want crit/advice anon. pls be nice to me, im aspie.

>> No.2789366
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how can i push the aesthetics. make this inky style look really appealing. anyone familiar with how to do this?

>> No.2789394

>>2789366
deus vult

>> No.2789398
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>>2789323
Thanks man, will try to fix it

>>2789327
Why is he pointing the gun at a different angle? Do keep trigger discipline in mind too else members of /k will rage, cool unique style btw, got a blog?

>>2789328
Might want to fix her left shoe?

>>2789366
I got this in my archive but it's heavily based on chinese calligraphy, although maybe you could lend some elements from it

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>>2789323
cheers man, still getting used to rendering skin, much appreciated

>> No.2789642

>>2789243
Man, you need to work on your lines, at this point it doesn't look good even with extreme zoom-out. You've managed to make a mess of her nose and mouth while actually doing the eyebrows with a single stroke each, so it seems like you can actually draw a confident line if you must, but for some reason just won't do it otherwise.

Also, nazi uniform is a shit tier fetish.

>> No.2789736
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>>2789327
the gun was getting on my nerves, I started using a ref.

>>2789398
>Why is he pointing the gun at a different angle?
Its the gun that is pointing at a different direction because of its skewed perspective. Also, thanks! I do have a blog, it is 99% creatures though...
https://www.instagram.com/yara.ameel/
http://perspectivallyincorrect.tumblr.com/

>> No.2789878

>>2789611
How do you get it so smoothly blended?

>> No.2789975

>>2789878
I learned how to paint skin using this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC3OxonJcXQ

>> No.2789987

>>2782754
I looove this

>> No.2789992

>>2785151
very cute butt highlight

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been trying to come up with a race to sell via adopts because I really need money and I Still Love Headwings
also I wanted this one to be festive but I'm so slow it'll be too late when I draw the actual thing

>> No.2790059

>>2789611
That's not how boobs work
The nips are way too high

>> No.2790062

>>2790059
this is true, thanks, will change them

>> No.2790151

>>2789997
>a race to sell via adopts
What? Explain further

>> No.2790157

>>2790151
Some people create a fantasy race/species with lore and biology and story and so on. For example there are races/species like "Cherubs" who are pretty popular adopts. "Purrmaids" are also popular. Since they're intellectual property, they can become rare or are just popular to have and the price inflates. Of course its hard to be original considering just how many species there are. But I've wanted to work on one anyway since it's fun. Does that explain it?

>> No.2790159

>>2790157
And adopts, if you dont know, are just designs/characters people can buy and thus own.

>> No.2790521
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some wip, taking suggestions.

>> No.2790626

Trying to draw kinky anime porn.

Look at the average kinky anime porn artists. They are so garbage it's godawful. Proportions going retard all the time. Probably can't even draw a nipple, just throw in a filter or some shit at latter stage.

Wonder how it's possible they have the courage to make crap this level.

See the standard is resolution is 4:3, 1600px wide. Copy that.

Go draw porn. Sketch goes well. Hot stuff.

I zoom in... my drawing looks like garbage. Can't ink. Everything looks chicken scratched or some half-erased crap.

New layer, try to sketch the details over zoomed-out attempt... doesn't work. It has a completely different feeling. Feels weak. Lacks power.

Try to ink. 100% garbage. Literally no way to ink that looks good.

Try to color. 120% limit-break garbage. Soft shading, cell shading, whatever shading. The garbagery only piles up.

Final result even shittier than the average porn artist.

What the fuck do I do? I start out with a rough sketch that looks amazing and each second I spend on it it gets worse?! How does it even make sense that the longer I spend on the drawing, the worse it gets??

>> No.2790627

>>2790626
Sounds like your problem is...

That you're fucking full of yourself and belittling the work, time and skill it takes for other artists to actually do that kind of work.

Time to reassess your attitude and stop thinking of everything as garbage and just fucking draw.

>> No.2790644

>>2790521
Not a suggestion, but really like the idea, man.

>> No.2790648

>>2790627
>>just fucking draw
>implying I don't draw

>> No.2790649

>>2790648
Not enough you don't, not if you're sitting here arguing with me. Go practice.

>> No.2790651

>>2790649
Is that what you do anon? You watch threads like this one, replying to anybody who comes in "go draw" and when they say you are full of shit you say "oh you aren't drawing because you are arguing with me hurr durr"

Is that what you do anon?

That is just sad.

>> No.2790655

>>2790651
I'm calling you out because you're whining about how shitty 'average kinky anime porn artists' are when you clearly blew yourself out of the water trying the same thing because you lack the skill. THAT'S why I'm telling you to go draw more. Just draw more until your work looks less trash instead of coming in here to complain about how it SHOULD be so very easy and there's just something unfairly blocking you from progressing. That something is drawing more, so go do it.

>> No.2790665

>>2790655

You are literally a retard.

First off, I called myself out in my own post about my result ending up worse than average.

Second off, I have been "drawing more" for literally many months without success.

Saying "draw more" is about as good of an answer as saying "just get better" you piece of shit. If you don't have anything of your own to say, then shut up and don't parrot what you read on /ic/

What are you going to tell me next? Read the sticky??? Loomis? Draw from life? Practice your "fundamentals"?

>> No.2790670

>>2790665
Your drawings should have improved since you first started, thats reason enough to assume that drawing more will result in improvement as well.

>> No.2790674

>>2783358
>legs disproportioned
>kangaroo feet
>bland face

Kek it, it must be aljosa

>> No.2790695

>>2784311
I always love your shit man. Its not my cup of tea, not my fetish etc. Its that you are good at action, dynamism etc. You have grown so much from your days of bad girls un panzer shit. Looking forward to 2017.

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>>2790626
>le rant
>>2790651
>le butthurt
>>2790665
>le projection

Wow, thanks for wasting that anons time giving (You)s for (You), and my time having to see this shit waste 3 post spaces. Please fuck off back to /t/umblr and post your blogs elsewhere.

>> No.2790830
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Speaking of anime porn, am I the only one bothered about the vagina's position? Often it's wrong and put too high, you see the dick fucking and entering the clitoris instead.

For people living off drawing these stuff you'd think they could at least learn the vagina's position correctly. It just always throws me off greatly, no way I can self insert in those. Pic related, disgusting example to illustrate what I'm referring to.

>> No.2790855
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crit please

>> No.2790873

>>2790855
>>2789616

>> No.2790902

>>2790665
For once in a blue moon, an anon on the altstyle thread is actually right.

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2790916

last fun thinger before i start drilling studies again

>> No.2790927
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>>2789611
I should have pinched the hips more, and i need to work on hands, fun practice tho.

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>>2790626
I wrote you a nice, loooooooong post to address your concerns but before I filled the captcha I said "fuck this guy" because you're most likely 1 of /ic/s most infamous retards and a bad troll.

So in summary, draw more.

>> No.2791042
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2791042

How do people even draw like this? Is the center line just arbitrary? I see this kind of head a lot in animu and anthro

>> No.2791046

>>2791042
draw more and you'll understand

>> No.2791055
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>>2791046
I just want to understand!

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>>2782240
INB4 "tumblr" nose complaints in alt art thread

>> No.2791080

>>2791076
>INB4 "tumblr" nose complaints

Look if you want to be a generic shit-tier artist then go ahead, don't stop making your characters look sickly. That's the worst part of your style.

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>>2791080
That's the best part of being a better artist than you. I can draw whatever I want and you can't say shit.

>> No.2791085

>>2791083
absolutely destroyed

it's a good feel tho

>> No.2791090

>>2791083
wow tony calm down you don't want to take that road down again

>> No.2791091

>>2791083

Whoo, someone's got a chip on their shoulder.

>> No.2791122

>>2791076
keep doing your thin i really enjoy this. problem with most "tumblr noses" is that theyre not really a stylistic choice but an attempt to make it look "better" or "original". But I can see you know what you're doing so it feels authentic. Nice color combos by the way, the green goes well with the red/pink, and your lines are pleasing to look at

>> No.2791127

>>2790830
Most anime porn artists are virgins or men.

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sketching

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>>2791142
forgot to resize again

>> No.2791145

>>2791122
Thanks mane.

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>>2790521
progress on this, I don't really know what steps to take to get the feel/mood I want to so bear with me since I'm gonna update this a lot with every major change to make sure I don't fuck up.

>> No.2791197

>>2790781
>projection
i don't think that means what you think it means
also
>LE LE LE

>> No.2791209

>>2791197
>also
>>LE LE LE
maybe he's french? comment savoir?
it would explain his difficulties with the english language.

>> No.2791235

>>2791209
>comment savoir

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merry christmas anons

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>> No.2791935

new thread >>2791932

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>>2790927
btw heavy gif alert
you made her look like an old tranny, so many issues that lead to that, check on the gif