/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

i always forget you can fuck around with levels in photoshop.

>>2745194
seriously, why don't you get your own thread? I don't see the point, you don't see the point, nobody else sees the point of having you and "muh style" in the draw threads. I'm sure you'll get as much attention in your own thread. Even Illastrat always gets quite some attention, so you'd probably get more (You)'s this way.

>>2745199
i like some of his stuff,fck off

>>2745191
Learn color theory because it just looks awful. Non of your paintings have good color choices.

>>2745231
stop samefagging.
and it (unfortunately) it would mean his shit would be cast to the hell it rightly deserves, just that it would not be in this thread.

learning to paint.

>>2745255
dude, don't you know that pizza is triggering recently?
really cool otherwise.

>>2745248

i love to see people like you on /ic.
You won't make it and you know it. That's why you have that attitude. Loosers like you are motivation to successful people

why does this bitch look so retarded?

>>2745275
>loosers
when you try to talk shit but cant spell

>>2745275
you see, you fucking retard trying to get the moral high grounds on anyone trying to talk sense into you and actually learn some of the science and techniques to improve your "art", insulting them and for some reason justify that you're above learning is why people want you out.

Are you blind? It's a faux-van gogh, and colours manage to be way more fucking hideous than that deuteranope dutchman. A kid could find that maybe, you could have picked -even randomly- a combination of colors that is not so eyes-bleedingly offensive.

>>2745288
check your proportions, chin is inexistent, try to think in volume and put this jaw where it belongs. It's quite striking on the thumb.

>>2745296
yea I see it now, thanks

>>2745288
>>2745300
Ah damn I didn't pay attention and see someone else already commented on the proportions. They're the main issue with it, though you also have some things like too strong a highlight on the chin so it looks pasty white sort of.

>>2745296
you know thats a study of a van gogh painting right? the similarities are the point. it's a study.

>>2745308
>it's a study
and the colors and values are still wrong and not accurately observed

>>2745311

>>2745317
yes that shows how the values and drawing is off, now compare them in color to see how the color is off

>>2745317
i'd say my value scale is pretty accurate, leaning towards brighter brights since digital is better at that than traditional. my darkest dark was a more mid tone blue than what he was using, but still pretty close. his blue was almost black, but i wanted to keep my palette a bit more chromatic than he made his.

you fucking cock

>>2745317
i think seeing them side by side is kind of interesting. one is a modern take on the other. similar to the way van gogh did studies of millet but made them more suited to his modern (at the time) style.

>>2745305
thanks anyways mate, what brush are you using for the hair?

>>2745323
Some square brush with a bit of texture, I may have gotten it from Peleng's brush set? Can't remember. Then I went over with a soft brush to soften out some things.

>>2745255
nice

>>2745191

I'm fucking lost again. Thinking of starting over. Hate the composition and the overall character design. Any help?

I don't like any part of it. Composition's fucked, colors are all fucked. Design is pretty much fucked. Thinking of starting over. If any of you have any quick fixes I'll take them but shit. Feels like I'm polishing a turd. Cock...

>>2745352

It's always the same shit for me. I do the whole piece, render out a part and just start hating the whole piece... I fucking hate myself. Anybody have the same problems?

>>2745352
The setting and the lighting don't go well together.
It looks like you have about 4 different light sources all working against one another: one shining down upon the figure, behind her, the staff, and a random light on the right edge of town. Maybe 5 if you're going to put in some blue magic in her hand, which is what it seems like you were going to try. Too many light sources here.

Honestly, it may just be best to start over. You could keep the setting; it's cool and has a nice depth, but the background especially makes no sense to me. What's with this random light on the edge? Is there a fire? Is the sun setting? If it is, why is this blue light appearing behind the subject? Is there a storm? Too much missing information.

And the gargoyle is strangely lit as well. It has a stronger light source shining on it than the main figure, which is drawing my eye to this secondary character more so than keeping my focus on the awesome detail you put into the woman.

Cool concept, poor execution. Just try again, m8.

>>2745352
I admire your commitment, however I think you might have muddied this piece with all the different lighting and having nowhere for the eye to rest and actually take in the detail

>>2745366
I don't have my tablet, but I tried to adjust some things that I think would improve it with my mouse

I'm no pro, so judge for yourself whether you think it's better or not

Also I tend to make things too dark, this monitor is dogshit

>>2745407
i attempted to make a gif, hopefully I remember how and it worked

>>2745275
If you really don't want to learn the fundamentals of art then don't. I was just trying to help you because I want to see other artists improve and not stagnate. But from that post I can see why you don't have any friends.

>>2745319
>my values are pretty accurate, except for when I made them different

I'll forgive how silly that sounds.

Looking at the original, I think the brightest bright should be brighter, and darkest dark should be darker (slightly on both), but I'm not a fan of the direction you took it. That's of course, just like my opinion, man.

>>2745375

Aye... I'm with you 100%. I'm all good with lighting a simple object/character with 2 lights but this was just too fucking complicated for me.

>>2745390

I feel the pain. I'll probably just take this as an exercise.

>>2745407
>>2745419

Cooling down the BG would also be a great idea along with killing the lighting on the gargoyle statue thingy (was going to do that anyway but it's still nice to see it pointed out). I might even try doing that just so I can get something out for fucking once.

I feel like I'm such an asshole posting this shit here when I know It's not really going to work even though people are going to help me but I fucking need to see how I fucked up from another point of view just so I can grow. I hope you guys don't feel like I'm wasting your time here.

I fucking hate myself for the shit that I'm trying to put out. It's like I can do all the parts that would probably make a good/mediocre illustration but I can't put it all together. I can do a fucking portrait of a monster or a spaceship with 1 light or what ever as long as it's just that BUT when ever there needs to be an elaborate background I just fuck up... Any tutorials or whatever on Youtube or somewhere that I should watch?

Sorry for the Tl;dr rant and thanks guys... Feels Bad Man...

>>2745194
also, for further reference, here's a hue comparison. Yours is more 'chromatic' as you said, but most colors are also shifted. This may have been on purpose, I have an appreciation for radical colors thrown into paintings, but I'm not sure what the purpose of the study was if you changed the value, hue and construction.

I guess my point is, this doesn't seem to be a study anymore, just an experiment. And that's fine, but it's helpful to you to realize that.

>>2745434
Do some modern master studies

>>2745434
You're being a bit hard on yourself. This wasn't necessarily bad, just the lighting was the biggest issue. You have a good grasp on fundamentals as far and perspective (which is the hardest thing to grasp imo). Honestly, the best help you can get are by doing master studies. Find a decent painting by a "master" and try to replicate what they've done. For example, if you struggle with backgrounds try painting a Thomas Moran. He has excellent use of light and color.

>>2745444
>>2745446

Will be doing this. I might even finish the piece just so I'll finally have sme shit in my portfolio even though I don't think it's really worth it. I'm also going to go back to 3D shit because it's basically an easy fix to most of my issues. Plotting a scene in Softimage or 3dsMax is much easier than Photoshop and making believable texture with perspective in ZBrush is a also a lot easier... I can't thank all of you guys enough though. You's the mans.

Did a self portrait. Came out looking like that blue swirly self portrait by van gogh. My similarities to him never stop amazing me. I've more or less been born to finish the work he started.

>>2745340

wow that is freshly taken from iris's facebook post. good on you lad!

>>2745466

are you a retard?

>>2745500
yep. i hope to take my trolling nationwide some day

what genre is this?

good to see brian. how's things going buddy?

Some imaginative work done today.

>>2745255
Cute af

>>2745191
What is "SPIRIT COOKING" anyway?

>>2745505
beginner

value/anat study thing

>>2745191
still needs work

>>2745611
it looks like you're doing the finer details of anatomy before you've gotten the basics down. the proportions are weird in a lot of places, and there's an alien vibe going on. nice rendering, though.

>>2745611
You are rendering it like it's a zbrush model. Try lighting it properly like light works in real life on skin.

some kinda still life i guess?

new here! i drew some evil dudes!

>>2745677
The perspective is really fucked up. In fact, it is so fucked up it looks like a stylistic choice you made. Interesting artwork, but look up how cylinders work.

>>2745690
thats because it was a stylistic choice haha

im trying to incorporate flat graphicical elements into my observational art because I think it's a really visual choice

maga

>>2745724
everything is always so blurry, get some fucking straight edge dude.

>>2745191
what am i doing wrong?

>>2745736
face seems to be much too wide

>>2745732
u rite

How do I fight The Mud

>>2745750
Stop desaturating your value shifts, push then into different hues.

>>2745736

so I tried to super simplify this entire thing into its core values.

Pay attention to the proportions, the angle and the features of the face. The face is too large, the neck is out of place, the ear has a slight tilt to it which suggests a different perspective. Make sure you pay attention to the head as well.

Primary changes:
I changed the values, so as to set up better lighting, you're guessing WAY TOO MUCH you need to stick to lighting that works around form a lot better, I would recommend learning the rembrant lighting method for starters before expanding into the butterfly method or any other lighting set up.

Green: Simplify rendering on hair, where is it dark, where is it light you need to squint, add basic highlight in a line using a textured brush, use a hairbrush/texture brush to brush our the hair through the hightlight.

red: Added rembrandt lighting method to build form

yellow: fix feature line - add bounce light in shadow mass.

blue: simplify values on the nose.

purple: add light in areas such as the side of the lip to show form.

pink: simplify the clothing to a 2 value 2 color system and add details on top.

Added a lit ball as reference, you should get to know all the different aspects of the anatomy of light. Core shadow, bounce light, direct light, highlight, occlusion shadow. If you don't know about these things and/or dont think about it whilst rendering then it can have an impact on your work.

You set a lot up so good job, good colors, and it is a decent attempt. Practice lots and familiarise yourself with the painting process.

>>2745758
>uguu hitler
what the fuck?

>>2745764

>>2745767
wtf lol i hate hitler now

>>2745758
before i read who you replied to i thought the right was the paintover

nigga what are you doing

>>2745810
Because he was concentrating on fundamentals, not idle rendering.

>>2745821
>Because he was concentrating on fundamentals, not idle rendering.

>hitler is always concentrating fundamentals

Even then, although his version is superior on some aspects, (like representing hitler-kun instead of amerifat), his version is really cartoony, and the anatomy is far from great. Just look at the neck, and the weird way he seems to be standing. If you're so concerned about fundamentals, why don't you care about these proportions, tiny head?

felt like something is missing in here, any advice before i move on into rendering stuff out?

>>2745637
>>2745626
Yea the proportions are a little fucked now that im looking at it, thanks for pointing that out. I used a zbrush model as reference actually lol.out of curiosity, How would you light this differently if it was skin? More specular or something?

>>2745191

>>2745924
composition needs more vertical contrast.
tall radar masts on the ship might do it?
I'd say there needs to be more junk, particularly near the containers/focal points. It'd make random containers more believable

It's too late to cast shadows isn't it.
Critique pls, including the design. Is it readable/believable? Does it look unique? generic?

It is supposed to be concept art for my video game about alchemy

>>2745965
fuck

>>2745946
I know that shadow side should have less detail but I feel you ought to elaborate her nose a bit more there, otherwise it's nice.


<- Enviromental study with no pressure brush setting, I controlled the opacity with the keyboard, I hope that is ok

>>2745967
>>2745965
Really cool design - I dig it!

> Is it readable/believable
You're right - it may be too late to incorporate shadows to help define stuff.

An alternative solution is to use a thicker line weight. You already have a thicker line weight around a lot of wholesome forms. I'd recommend going in with a line weight 2 or times thicker than that to help outline to most important forms and structures. Pic related is an example of that.

Just something I would do!

>>2745967
this is sick man do you have more

>>2745750
Dont color pick

>>2746044
Neat man! I think you can go a bit darker in places and get more consistent values and colours. I did a quick paintover of how I would handle things, maybe it can help a bit.

>>2746053
fugg man, I'm really impressed. On your version, you can really understand the volumes and rebuild the underlying skull.
The light getting on the pointy ear is great too.

Crit my study please. Thanks.

>>2745969
I like it! You should do this more often, Firez!

>>2746137
That's primarily a materials study, and you didn't manage to get the specularity right anywhere.

Hey /ic/. There's still a decent deal to be done before this is done, but as far as basic composition, the bg, really any form of critique is appreciated.

>>2746137
you should take construction more seriously

>>2746134
Glad it helped

hand practice. im enjoying this brush pen

>>2746000
Neat

>>2745724
Has Dat mgs3 aesthetic, dope

>>2745724
Hi Disdain.

Are these life drawings good enough to simply walk away from life drawing and occasionally come back for a refresher, or are they very poor and in need of dire attention?

>>2746340
you can never have too much life drawing
the rendering looks too flat, try vary gradation more

>>2746344
That's what I figured when I started doing a series of life drawings, but I don't want to neglect my other studies. I've found that I've been having a hard time thinking in forms because I hadn't done any life-drawing in a while, but it feels like I'm simply having a good refresher within the first hour, and that I'm ready to go back to whatever I was doing.

I'm fairly certain it's not a waste of time at all though.

JUST

>>2746351
God, I wish I knew how to drive.
A life drawing class is the first thing I'd go do.

>>2746053
Hey anon if I post a portrait I'm working on would you do a value/hue pass on it like you did for that guy too please?

>>2746445
Post something up and I can try, though I can't guarantee it will be a great paintover

>>2746452
Thank you and it's fine if you don't spend years making it look nice or anything. I think even a little bit of inspiration would help.

Korean Girl I
by Chunbum Park

>>2746455
Is that ProJared?

>>2746459
....pls no bully ;-;

>>2746460
That's cool.
I knew who it was just by clicking on the unfinished picture.

>>2746462
Oh. Well awesome then, at least I got it to look like him, thank you.

>>2746147
I will definitely do more.

Thanks anon

>>2746473
te la batimamaste FiRez, bien hecho

>>2746455
Thanks to >>2746459 for mentioning the name, so I could look up what the dude looks like, otherwise I would have changed it to have a more natural expression, but I guess this guy makes weird faces.

I don't do stylized stuff like this myself, so maybe I'm not the best at it or am pushing it in my own direction. I think in general though you can push the values slightly more in places and try to think more about the forms of the head and features. Don't forget small accents like speculars in the eyes, or darks in the corners of the mouth.

>>2746473
nice job firez

>>2746479
Thank you, this is going to help me out a lot! I knew it needed more value variety but I wasn't sure how far to go in either light or dark direction, this will be a great guideline. Really appreciate it, man.

>>2746483
>Really appreciate it, man
No problem.

> I knew it needed more value variety but I wasn't sure how far to go in either light or dark direction
If you are uncertain then the safest way is to start with middle values and creep out to the extremes through glazing. You also can paint it out and if you are uncertain then use a levels adjustment layer and test how it looks with things shifted a bit. For things like specular highlights it's often a good idea to paint them on a new layer near the end, and then you have a lot more control what their strength is.

>>2746487
Oh cool, I never thought of using adjustment layers like that before. Thanks for the tip, I'll try that when I inevitably get stuck again.

>>2746273
>dat extra jointed index finger

>>2746353
>underage b&

>>2746519
Not everyone learns to drive, and not everyone lives in a place where it's necessary.

>>2746524
It's true. I'll be 30 in a few months and I've never driven or gotten a license.

>>2745924
got kinda stuck again

>>2746528
you are missing out to say the least

>>2746535
>wat racing development
my dude

>>2746478
Muchas gracias colega :)

>>2746480
Thanks m8!

>>2746277
hello

painted mario. mama mia

>>2746535
Not really.

a weird dragon

>>2746473

Noodling with colors. I think its more discernible now. I'll probably redo her face. :/

>>2746473
blog?

>>2746160
I tried to improve it, but I catched myself feeling I can't see the right value for shit. I think I need to dig for some lectures.
>>2746173
Yeah, next morning I spotted all fuck ups too. Thanks.

Doubt I'll be able to do more paintings outdoors for a while, it's getting pretty cold and wet out there.

Anyway, crits pls.

>>2746741
england, norway?

>>2746743
England, Cornwall specifically.

Here's another one I did recently, I don't think it's that great though.

>>2746741
>>2746746
I think you got the feel of the place, I even guessed it right because of that. Personally I think you need more detail in flora and more highlights on the sea. But still these are good paintings.

>>2746690
I wish this had less black in it. Those red wisp things at the top part of the object need redesigned so their layout flows more and its not three branches that are almost the same size/length. Pay attention to tangents, how things intersect the red shapes in the background. And yes redo the face

Im very jealous of this piece, I like it a lot!

>>2746728
Squint your eyes and look at both

Some new studies.

>>2746806
p. good. nice shading

especially top left and bottom.

>>2746351
getting along! Too many highlights, and not enough variation in the shadows. Keep going!

>>2745296
I wonder if Van Gogh was as autistic as Brian

>>2746888
Well he did cut off his fucking ear. And his tongue or finger or something right?

>>2746946
To be fair he had some pretty bad mental illnesses and also ate paint by the tube which gave him lead poisoning and made him even crazier.

>>2746959
>To be fair he had some pretty bad mental illnesses
But isn't that what we're saying about Brian?

>>2746960
Van Gogh was legitimately insane, Brian is just a narcissist and asshole

>>2746961
I used to think so too but his obsession with that cam ho got me thinking otherwise.

>>2746963
I forgot about that. I think that probably just ties in with the narcissism though since he was delusional and believed he really had something with her and what he was doing was normal and he felt she liked him.

>>2746965
on stream the other day she said he was "the most attractive weirdo of all time" or something like that. she's just as retarded as him. two peas in a pod.

Does anyone know where I can find online tracing tool

What does /ic/ listen to while working? I listen to kpop

>>2746988
Tracing in what regard?

>>2746741
>>2746746
You seem to be struggling with painting stone formations. I want to suggest you to harden your value edges

>>2747073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79Siq5OtyMM&index=5&list=PLHugv5MMI6Yde4DAze7XyyhIzXCEhIkHz

when the beat gets grating, I usually switch on a twitch stream. Any random twitch stream. The voice of someone comentating and reacting to video gaming is kind of nice. Its not too stimulating and is a good cure for the loneliness. Better than TV shows at least - those are too distracting and compel me to look to see whats happening on screen.

>>2747146
>>2747073
Draw thread

>>2745191
IC how would you color this? it's a snowy landscape with a crashed, interior-lit, wagon. The backpack has a glowing orb iside.

>>2747152
Here's what it looks like right now. I am not happy with this.

>>2747144
>harden your value edges
anon there's no such thing in art as a "value edge"... there's value and edges, but there's no such thing as a "value edge"

/ic/ is funny

that being said that anon needs to improve his color form, and if he worked on his shading shapes or negative edges he'd be on his way to some great paintings

>>2747149
Yes professor

>>2747157
I was hesitant about suggesting that.. I'm not familiar with how the terminology is used :/

Okay to say it in my layman ways: Be more firm with the shadows and colors on the rocks as they look like a bowl of mushy fruity loops right now.

>>2747157
>color form
You get after him for saying value edge when you go on to say color form. I think value edge makes sense since and edge occurs between two values, and he is differentiating it from other edges like between two colors of the same value.

>>2747157
This!! You need to work some more on the composition control as well.

>>2747162
I think what you're trying to say is he needs to improve his edge control and learn some color theory.

>>2747170
Probably.

>tfw not fluent in art critique

>>2747146
Metroid Prime(s) OST is something I often go to when doing art/studying.

>>2747157
>>2747162
Appreciate the crits, more contrast would be good, but I have to say my camera washes out a lot of my paintings, even though I take pictures in good light.

>>2747167
Yeah, the problem is I haven't really been doing much invention of composition, I've just been scouting around the coastline for good compositions, sitting my ass down, and then painting.

>>2747170
Colour has also been something of an afterthought for me, I'm still a drawer mentally.

Here's a guy near where I am that does the same kinds of scenes, he's pretty great, i study his paintings, he uses colour really well.

>>2747198
woosh

>>2747219
I understand the critiques, just gotta work on contrast, edges and colour, it's a little amorphous and drab right now.

Gonna be moving to still lives now it's winter, stay tuned.

>>2747198
>my camera washes out a lot of my paintings, even though I take pictures in good light
You can edit them in photoshop with levels and colour balance or other tools to try to correct it and get it closer to the original painting

>>2746608
>>2746691
Thanks.

Firez-tbr.tumblr.com

>>2746608
>>2746691
Thanks.

Firez-tbr.tumblr.com

>>2746807
thanks friendo.

>>2746806
Oy! don't copy paste your eyes from one side to another, it's awkward and kill the humanity (or they look retarded, as you wish). Nice draftsmanship. Push your values anon, push.

>>2747245

Are you using reference?

>>2746137
The ellipses on the camera on the right feel off to me. The one on the left is totally fine to me though.

>>2746577
Why do you not put the dark border around the edges of the iris?

a study

>>2747344
If you're just using an opaque square hard brush like that, then I think you need to design your shapes a bit more. For example, look at how uniform many of your shapes are like all the rimlights being uniform in width and strength. Your highlights are just the brush shape too, and the hair was all painted with one size and shape of brush. Maybe look at guys like Mielgo and see how they play with shapes and make them more designed and interesting and get more variety in there.

Where did that one anon go who was doing all of those moody nature oil paintings go? I enjoyed his work

>>2747344
selfie?

How do I strike a good balance between form and strict observation?

I keep dancing between the two, and it's really distracting me, so I can't really put all of my mental energy into one or the other.

Is the best thing to do is to do it once from observation, and then mentally wrap your brain around what you've drawn?

Hope I'm posting this in the right thread
Trying to study more pose variety

figure drawing from tonight. about an hour and 20.

>>2747387
Are there a lot of SJWs attending figure drawing classes?

I have a bad, mental image that the moment I walk into one people with neon colored hair are going to surround me.

>>2747364
thanks a bunch my dude! you're right, it's very unrefined and uniform. i'll play around more next time.

>>2747375
nah

i am rich and stupid and wanna learn how to draw people fucking

should I get proko premium

I am starting from 0

>>2747394
Depends a lot on the city and the particular event. Some tend to attract mostly young hipsters or SJWs, some tend to attract mostly old retired people looking for a new hobby, some are just college students or high school students who want to go to art school. Just try it out, usually the people there won't just come up and start talking to you.

>>2747387
Nice one brian! Especially like the designs on the cloth.

18x24 pastel from life

>>2747401
>You will never buy Proko premium

It sucks.
I feel like there's a wealth of knowledge there, but I've absolutely no access to it a la Steve Huston.

Dude simply wants too much money, but I wouldn't feel good about torrenting his art course since you know it's what he lives off of.

>>2747425
Speaking of Huston, does anyone have a torrent of his course?

I know he's employed by New Masters Academy so I don't feel much guilt in learning from him for free.

Critique?

>>2747429
>Just_a_sketch.PNG PNG PNG
>3000x4200
>3.72MB so it takes forever to load up on a broad-band connection
>Despite such a demanding load time, it's completely ugly and muddy shit, and it really does feel like someone was fucking off

(You)

>>2747431
I'm sorry you live in Zimbabwe, and I'm not saying it's perfect but the composition is dynamic, the forms don't ignore the perspective.
It's clearly not a finished rendered piece, it's a sketch.

>>2747437
1 minute for your unfinished flaming piece of garbage to finally reveal itself is far too long. Even though I don't live in Zimbabwe, there's probably someone on this image board that does. You need to take it into consideration before you slap bloated shit on here.

>It's clearly not a finished piece

Then why ask for a critique?
I can't even tell what the hell is going on in your picture.

You'd be better off tracing over the forms you've drawn. This is an absolute mess.

>>2747429

I honestly cannot tell what this is. I see a frog in there somewhere. Define your shapes and fg/bg better.

>>2747437
I could understand posting the full quality, 3.72 MB image for a view of a finished piece, but for this, it's completely incomprehensible WHY you would do this.

In fact, it'd likely be better if you condensed the entire thing down. At least then I wouldn't be greeted by your half-assed attempt at rendering.

>>2747445
>>2747443
>>2747442
>>2747431
Alright, sorry boys, I actually posted someone else's drawing who was talking mad shit just to show him how gay he was acting.

Thanks for the responses-- he'll see them shortly

hi

>>2747455
that photobashed texture.
ew

stodi

>>2747471
Can you give me a link to that source picture senpai?

>>2747471
I really like it. Can't find anything I don't like about it.

>>2746000
Thanks!, and yeah, I was a bit reluctant to do more heavy lines out of fear it might cheapen things/mess with the sense of scale.

I can't work on it now, but I think I'll try what you've suggested
nice trips btw

>>2746013
Thanks and uuuh, not really? I don't have a lot of presentable work, and what content I do have is all over the place. I'm pretty shit desu.
How is this?
Jap video game character fanart wallpaper drawn with a mouse. Sadly still not near the most cancerous thing ive done.

>>2747473
You got it, bud.
>>2747474
Thanks, I too like muscles.

>>2747463
I am glad u disapprove. it makes me moist.

Planned out sketch based off a photograph.

Gonna go over it in oil paint but not sure whether to do a more minimal monochromatic technique or go straight onto colours
Gridded up along with the photo for proportions.

another unfinished roberto ferri study, I think they are getting better tho

>>2747429
>>2747431
>>2747437
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>>2747447
I was shit posting on the /b/ draw thread and someone actually went out of the way to post this on here trying to discredit me or something.
This was really dumb, but for anyone wondering what it is it's lion from dota 2 casting hex and turning someone into a frog.

>>2747491
you're retarded lmao.

>>2747495
Yeah, but not nearly as retarded as the person who posted my shit on here lol.
Which makes it okay.

>Watch Ctrl Paint
>Do Digital painting 101
>Found incredibly easy, pump shit out in 10 seconds method that looks ok

Wow.

>>2747271
Thanks anon! Still having troubles with foreshortened eyes in 3/4 views.

>Stop posting this!
SHHHHH you're a meme

I'm still casually fiddling with this. Just curious what you lads think of the background so far

>>2747621
REEEE STOP POSTING-

Anyway love the general vibe, very oldschool book cover. Worried that the ships in the background fuck with the silhouette, though, you might want to at least screw with the back ship by applying a little atmospheric perspective to it. Just a thought.

The girl's face doesn't stand up to closer inspection, either, but you're not quite done with it.

>>2747621
Very impressive, I like it. Are you a working artist?

>>2747621
Honestly I think you really completely lost your way when doing this piece. Instead of fixing issues, you introduced new ones.
If you wanted it to be busy, you should expand the canvas and give more room to breathe. It's just not so appealing than the simpler versions you had.
Sure, the thumb reads, but when looking the full size I find it really confused.

And yet the sausage legs of the gunner are still there, as well as the strange leg proportions of the legs, etc etc.

>>2747621
push the ships back by desaturating them and iintroduce clouds to break them from the foreground even further because its cluttered right now

>>2747648
I will seriously consider expanding the canvas, that's something I haven't thought of.

As for the sausage legs, the guy is supposed to be like a doll... thing, so his legs are made of fabric stuffed with shit and his knees are kindof just stitched to form joints, and with all that in mind he doesn't follow traditional proportions. Is that what you're getting at?

As for the girl I haven't touched her in months. She'll be last but I'm keeping track of the criticisms.

>>2747646
Barely

>>2747650
will do.

>>2747621
I like the ships but like the other anon said i would desaturate and cool them down to push them further back. As it is my eye gets lost in the middle because the shapes arent distinct enough.

>>2747146
thanks for the music. great taste.

>>2747622
STFU you retarded slut.

>>2747621
lol looks awesome. so many retarded people on here it hurts to see you get bashed. lmao

How would you draw the end of the pantyhose here?
I tried everything, but i just can't get it right.

This is the current drawing btw

>>2747621
On the seated characters right leg (his right <-) Could you reduce the shadow line where the boot meets the trouser, it makes the form really strange and flatter than it should be.

>>2747887
I think it's flat on purpose, dude, it's a stuffed doll.

>>2747879

I would give them a little bit of squeeze or height difference. I'd also work to make the patterns contour around the form of the leg better.

>>2747879
I've seem some ending like these.

Am I not picking the right color, or adding enough variation in the shadows? What could I do to improve?

>>2747900
If I can be brutally honest.
Your problem doesn't lie just on the colors.
You need a lot of improvement on your linework and you should choose between animu and conventinonal caricature, both aren't working at all.
But if you want to discuss just the colors, this kind of coloring doesn't suit the style at all.
You're at risk of ending up like one of those wikihow pictures.

>>2747907
>linework
Like my lineweights?
>conventinonal caricature
This is the first attempt at caricature, I did it for some friends. I will look into this.
>But if you want to discuss just the colors, this kind of coloring doesn't suit the style at all.
Yeah I would listen to anything you had to tell me. I did what I normally do in my fanart drawings, like I'm completely clueless what I am doing here.
>wikihow pictures
Brutal but accurate thank you.

>>2747621
i pushed some of your highlights, pushed the ships back and gave the girl a better face. no amount of face editting is gonna fix her weird pose but i tried.

>>2747929
god! you again!....

>>2747947
maybe if that guy could learn to draw a face i wouldn't have to fix every single one. doesn't help his canvas size is super tiny so im literally drawing the face with pixels.

i did more to this, pushed the values and added a background.

>>2747955
The background has a different horizon line than the foreground.

>>2747966
how observant

>>2747970
Thank you. It seems you didn't notice it yourself so I thought I'd help out.

>>2747974
yup. i drew a figure on a table in perfect perspective, but a horizon line was just too much to handle for me.

>>2747955
proportions are absolutely fucked up. terrible drawing lol no joke

>>2747987
not gonna make it

>>2747955
you need to work on your hands. I can tell you're very uncomfortable drawing them. that's a good sign of an amateur. also i'm sorry that you have developed the habit to stylize your edges on a figure. it doesn't look good man.

>>2747990
we already know that about brian.

My fake Disney poster.

>>2747995
better than
>>2747955

>>2747987
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>>2747997
wow you guys went full retard

>>2747997
Thanks man.

>>2747929
WTF are they even flying on, and how does it stay in the air?

>>2748017
magic duh

>>2748017
yeah it kinda looks like everything in the scene is gonna fall like a sack of potatoes once the camera starts rolling.

>>2747929
why do you bother posting art on 4chan man. you're too good for people to handle. eventually people start to think you're just showing off.

there's better places besides than this pile of shit sack thread. I just like making fun of brian and laughing at his ego trips.

>>2746479
Hey anon thanks again for the paintover, I think helped my decision making a lot. I studied it for a good long while looking at value and temperature and how you defined the forms. I still want to see if I can finish the one you edited but I did another one to experiment with what I tried to learn from your edit and though this still isn't great I think the value breakdown is much better, even though it's oversaturated. Maybe now I can use your adjustment layer tip. Just thought I'd share my progress. I won't bug you for another paintover but thanks for the advice you gave or might give, I appreciate it.

5th attempt at painting

>>2748078
that's my redline you retard. you come here to accidentally mistake brian's edits for original pieces apparently

>>2748085
hey. nobody cares dude.

>>2747301
Yes, I ended up using it closer than I expected because I couldn't make much sense of the left arm

>>2748087
everything in this thread is utter trash besides my figure drawing. this is possibly one of the worst draw threads we've had on this board in months.

>>2747301
Yes, I ended up using it closer than I expected because I couldn't make much sense of the left arm

<-wip from life

Anyone know how to get a nice binary/one pixel brush in clip studio? I get these ugly overlapping pixels that shouldn't be there. Compare to similar line drawin in photoshop.

>>2748085
did you just talk in third person. what a legend

Looking for the picture of Abraham which shows you where to put Ryb on the face? Looking for the more detailed picture that includes putting blue under the eyes.

>>2748092
You probably need to mess with the sub-settings in the pen tool. The tools are pretty insanely customizeable in CSP, it's usually a matter of figuring out the engrish to know what you're changing.

>>2747476
I really like that coloring effect. I'm from /beg/, can you tell me how you did that?

>>2746668
you've got the start. i say put more detail into it but if you're bored of it then its ok

>>2747152
i like the lighting, i say make the background more gloomy to put more eye into the light

>>2747376
do observation and construct within

>>2748121

personal monorail. inspired by elon musk and anal beads

>>2748183
This is awesome, thanks

>>2747929
>>2748085
Haha brian never change my dude. If /ic/ was a playground we would beat the shit out of you.

>>2748121
does anyone have that lincoln lighting guide where it shows his statue lit from all those different angles with the different names for the angle like 'rembrant twist' etc.

>>2748289
this?

>>2748089
lmfao dude you're not only delusional but also narcissist and If I ever see one of your paintings in real life I will literally take it off the wall, place it on the ground, pull my zipper down and piss on it. Fuck you brian.

>>2747929
looks even worse man. fuckin idiot

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>>2748319
i cant wait to make my art money and never paint again. this shits so boring. all i really wanna do is podcast and stream video games all day. you guys are the delusional ones trying to change the world with your concept art. get a grip. this is a job. stop taking everything so personally.

>>2745317
>thought this was made by someone who wasn't Brian to show Brian how wrong Brian is
>nope it's just Brian still denying reality

How can you not tell that there aren't nearly enough mistimed in your painting? Everything is all white or black around the edges or with random ines tossed in. If you want to see how wrong your painting is than you need to look at its level graph and see that there's no bell curve. I would show you but I'm on my phone.

>>2748370
*midtones in your painting. Sorry l, like I said I'm on a phone

>>2747471
Really nice work. The only thing that seems a bit off is the face, like the structure is a bit wrong and the nose is too big, ear misplaced etc.

You have a blog?

>>2748341
If you want to make money, art is the worst way to do it

>>2747929
I love the colors dude. What did you study to learn that?

>>2748374
post work?

>>2747855
quiet

>>2747887
The dude is a big stupid doll, no boots. I guess that isn't clear enough, I'll consider making that more apparent. I've edited his knee a bit to be more clearly a crimp in the fabric because you're not the first person to point out it looks weird.

>>2747929
I think I said it like a thousand times I haven't touched the girl in months. She's rough, she's staying that way till I get to her. Thats why I ask specifically about the background. But thankyou for the edits anyway.

>>2748017
>>2748029
The power of friendship actually.

>>2748078
Assuming you're referring to me?
Because why not? If anyone doesn't like it then they can cry all they want. But I like the format of 4chan and you guys respond quickly so here is fine.

>>2748341
It should be fun! Not work

>>2748394
hnnnnggg af

>>2748394
majestic sob yo

>>2748306
thank you so much anon I will save it this time.
t. beginning painter

Be honest. How many of you guys started out in the beginner thread and worked your way up to this thread?

>>2748192
Solid drawing but the lines are so gray and blurry. Id go for bold solid lines even in a sketch.

>>2748505
nice

>>2748573
thanks, yea I'll opt for a more defined brush and lines for my next drawing

>>2748466
I've been here since before the beginner thread back in like 2012.


Can I get a crit on this wip?

>>2748955
needs more line detail. add designs on the fabric. the roses need more detail.

>>2748083
honestly not bad at all dude! it has a nice illustrated aesthetic to it!!

>>2748959
>more detail

>>2748955
but seriously dude, as I asked you last time, what am I looking at?

>>2748982
noob.

wip

>>2748984
Marie Antoinette embracing Lady Oscar in a hug with roses in the background. Why doesn't that read, is there not enough weight to make them pop out or something? Rose of Versailles fan art.

>>2748998
Well, I can see _that_. But what are the lines below the two busts? Do you think anybody could make sense of those lines? Maybe you should crop it, but it cannot be parsed as a volume.
Sure line weight could help, but you first need to make sure it make sense as a 3D object.

>>2749004
Oh okay, so that should be hair, dress and pants that just look like nonsense lines? That sorta gets back to what >>2748959
said about cloth detail. Okay guys I will try to make that stand out more.

>>2748995
>when your teeth hurt so bad your cheeks swell and eyes turn Arrakis blue

>>2748995
Do you basically just do the reverse of picking black and white values from a life study, but with color? I've done my fair share of value studies, so should I be able to do this?

clothing study so far

I'm just dicking around atm.

>>2749075
Seeing as how you're drawing over a poorly made doodle, I'd say you're constantly dicking around.

>>2749092

I don't own a scanner, so yeah, pretty much.
I also don't own a tablet so everything I do I do by hand. It's very hard doing linework with just a mouse. Hands are less steady than people like to believe.

>>2749097
You shouldn't even bother using your hands if you're doing this with a mouse. There are tools available in Photoshop that will let you ink without a tablet.

>>2749106
Seriously? Can you explain because I seriously didn't know about this. I can't afford any proper tech since I'm a poor ass university student so this is what I resort to.

>>2749114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTOOEl8jhuk

>>2749127
I mean, I appreciate that you took the time to link this, but that looks incredibly time consuming and actually produces not that great results. I should probably just save and buy a decent tablet already though tbf.

Like this or should I push it more with the patterns etc?

>>2749136
yes. now you're on the right track. now keep pushing it with more line details.

>>2749159
>line details
This is the best thing I have ever drawn thank you senpai.

Do you feel lucky, punk?

I tried this muscle study.
This is the first one I've done from a photograph.

What do you guys think?

Is it flat even for a photo study?

Were the muscles created incorrectly?

>>2749287
Also, this is less of an observational study and more of trying to hit the forms in the picture I'm looking at. I have a huge issue where I know where the muscles insert, but I don't know how to really construct them. I'm trying to fix that by studying photographs and various references/books.

>>2749303
/i/

>>2749324

Too deep, you need some time to reflect

>>2749170

no probs. always push your stuff to the limit.

>>2749075
Is this your reference picture?

>>2749448

>>2749448
Fugg how did you know?

Man. This dude Hampton is all like: "draw this orange thing it's totally useful" but I don't see how that's the case. I have problems with the shoulder girdle, can anyone help?

>>2749905
oops

>>2749024
what do you mean? i am not sure that i undererstad you

>>2749969
I basically meant doing the reverse of a life study on a gray scale. When you do a life study in black and white, you get a scale of values derived from the colors before your eyes.

What I thought you're doing is taking those black and white values and trying to apply color to them to further ingrain it into your mind.

>>2749905
Look at your own body but negate your rib cage.
Look at the pit of your clavicle, and pretend your Trapezius isn't there.

You get a square like he's showing you. Then just bring that flatness above the sphere of the rib cage down. That's the shoulder girdle. The deltoid inserts along the frontal 1/3 of the clavicle, and the back of the trapezius/scapulae

Look at this biodigital human if you need help seeing where everything connects:

https://www.biodigital.com/

>>2749267
>tfw people have drawn Clint Eastwood thousands of times

I don't understand it.
Why does Clint Eastwood pop into the minds of artists everywhere?

>>2750276
You should make sure the colors you're using look good together before you drop hours painting them. Compounding matters, you obviously really don't know how to draw, and you should refrain from creating abominations such as this. It looks like you're wasting a shit load of time creating ugly paintings because you're exercising an incredibly inefficient technique that you've made up.

You're better of downloading/watching a bunch of Ctrl Paint videos before you continue to do this stupid shit.

>>2750276
No idea how light/materials work either.
No clue.
Simply having fun and posting it where it doesn't belong.

Values have very little variance.

Fucked up fingers on top of this.

Hurting himself by opening up photoshop to paint instead of learning.

>>2750224
I can see that much, I just don't understand how the girdle is useful.

Does anyone have something like this but where they explain the steps? Like I understand the first two or three and I understand the details at the end but I don't get what the heck is going on in the middle.

>>2751027
the nose from Gogol!!!

Finished this a few days agi