/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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Anonymous Tue Nov 1 21:38:24 2016 No.2731230 [Reply] [Original]

Previous thread: >>2713460

Bring us your roughs, your storyboards, your pencil tests etc. THE LAST THREAD WAS ALL EAST VERSUS WEST NONSENSE. LESS TALKING MORE ANIMATING.

If you're gonna post animation that isn't yours give source or state that it isn't yours.

No shitposting allowed

>2D Animation Tutorials - How to Animate like a pro AMB Animation Academy
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYOBCjdAoAjbKsk4NG7h_WJ9CX7F5zfUe

>Stuff you may find useful, books basic program tutorials etc
https://mega.co.nz/#F!3p8CwQZD!DR2mC-kw0TyQQ8Uw3T6JYg
https://mega.co.nz/#!TdclgBqS!QWLS9f3ogerhJDfxCYPv_yFKRR11tP_IC0eaA4sEwug

>Reference stuff you can find with a simple google search
http://www.referencereference.com/
https://vimeo.com/groups/aniref
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRvspTjApofA2Yg3i10gTdQ
http://www.rhinohouse.com/

https://virgam.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/anim-draw-48-ssa-ideas-anim-shorts.pdf

Japanese style animation tutorial: http://listeningside.net/a_side00.html
Stoyboard & composition: http://www.floobynooby.com/comp1.html

>Play YT videos frame-by-frame
http://rowvid.com/

>Kinovea's a cool program to use for frame-by-frame analysis too
https://www.kinovea.org/

Lastly, if you've got some good animation resources, contribute!

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 1 21:41:17 2016 No.2731234 In reference to that disastrous /v/ thread where they don't even understand their own medium... Do you think Richard Williams over animates? Is excessive animation a thing in motion picture?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 1 23:48:46 2016 No.2731330 >>2731234 >In reference to that disastrous /v/ thread where they don't even understand their own medium... Que?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 05:52:40 2016 No.2731503 >>2731330 >>356571598

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 05:54:21 2016 No.2731504 >>2731330 >>>356571598

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 06:04:26 2016 No.2731509 >>2731330 >>>/v/356571598

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 07:28:05 2016 No.2731538 File: 2.62 MB, 500x263, Untitled 52.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] continuing the roses theme from my last gif

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 07:55:20 2016 No.2731545 >>2731538 This is pretty darn cool. I dig the camera angles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 12:02:56 2016 No.2731713 >>2731538 That's neat, but the beginning has a flow issue.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 12:55:44 2016 No.2731750 >>2731713 yeah, something about the walk cycle and as he gets close to the couch

Anonymous Wed Nov 2 14:48:37 2016 No.2731845
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bouncing ball exercise on stairs, practicing spacing and timing so no squish and squash.. the vertical lines are where I planned for the ball to land but since I didn't plan the arcs in advance I had to move the landing spot a bit away. the ball comes in and goes out a bit low too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 16:28:58 2016 No.2731956 >>2729495 Is that you redminus?

Anonymous Wed Nov 2 16:36:32 2016 No.2731969

>>2731845
The ball won't lift itself off the floor this instantly and it doesn't matter that you're not using squash/stretch. It's about timing.
Have you ever seen a ball bouncing off the stairs? When at its highest point, it will stay there for a while as well as lose a lot of energy with each bump, put a bit more effort into feeling the form and its weight.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 17:48:20 2016 No.2732040 File: 36 KB, 1280x720, bouncing ball exercise 2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2731969 I see. how's this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 17:53:00 2016 No.2732048 >>2732040 Much better but the ball shouldnt come out of frame already bouncing, more like its been tossed

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 17:54:59 2016 No.2732051 yo boys, i gotta write a personal statement to get into an animation course for uni, any tips on how to start it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 17:56:35 2016 No.2732054 >>2732051 Does it need to be about why you want to get in or how you were interested in the first place?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 17:57:25 2016 No.2732056 >>2732054 both actually

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 17:58:58 2016 No.2732059 >>2732056 Well tell me first why, so we can get the ball going

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 18:21:35 2016 No.2732076 >>2732051 just say you were inspired by My Little Pony, that should get you in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 18:47:38 2016 No.2732105 >>2732051 what school are you applying to?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 18:57:33 2016 No.2732110 >>2731230 Fuckin amazing how incompetent /ic/ thread makers are putting a threat title is this difficult

Anonymous Wed Nov 2 18:59:25 2016 No.2732113

>>2731538
You could go way bigger when he fires the gun. It's quite understated for such a long build up.
>>2732051
say that you were born with a pencil in your ass

Today I met someone who worked closely with Richard Williams for years and he complemented the dumb flipbook animation I had in the corner of my sketchbook.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 19:01:56 2016 No.2732115 >>2731230 Is /ic/ just unable to make good first posts of a thread?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 19:38:23 2016 No.2732167 >>2732110 >>2732115 This.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 20:26:31 2016 No.2732242 File: 2.49 MB, 360x240, 1362004737245.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2732110 >>2732115 >>2732167 hey, cut the new guys some slack

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 01:43:39 2016 No.2732498 Why do tweens look so cheap and fake where as two's dont? Like if i convert a tween to twos it somehow looks more "right" than a tweened motion even though it has fewer frames.

Anonymous Thu Nov 3 02:13:06 2016 No.2732529

>>2732498
>do tweens look so cheap and fake where as two's dont?
??? Something can be on twos and still be a tween. I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at. But you probably think a tween on twos looks better than a tween on ones because tweens are usually too smooth, robotic and just uncanny. Lowering the amount of frames would probably help break up some of that robotic smoothness, but I don't think it would help that much. Got any examples?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 03:44:33 2016 No.2732576 File: 53 KB, 776x544, 1477871693527.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are some examples of masterful animations made by a single person?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 04:11:13 2016 No.2732589 >>2732576 ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBvbNs7WSII

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 07:36:46 2016 No.2732683 >>2732576 Plympton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMQvcMP-80k Koji Yamamura https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuM8xHQSUEM

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 07:57:07 2016 No.2732708 >>2732589 Holy Fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 16:18:12 2016 No.2733032 File: 54 KB, 720x463, 10168167_757178464326268_4013068397974678886_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2732683 >>2732589 all amazing

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 11:43:05 2016 No.2733790 File: 1.90 MB, 400x300, chico2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] currently animating over filmed footage Quite fun

Anonymous Fri Nov 4 13:45:16 2016 No.2733891 [DELETED]

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Did this rough sketch few days ago.
I could use tips for how to better portray foreshortening etc. I am not entirely happy about the bent leg of the creature on the right.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 15:13:11 2016 No.2733953 >>2733790 Really cute. I'd fuck you.

Anonymous Fri Nov 4 15:19:13 2016 No.2733957

>>2733790

animation is really choppy, a few inbetween frames here and there would do wonders for believability. Also each frame seems to have the same time length; I assume your source video is at least 24fps, so you should be able to do better.

But I agree it's cute as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 19:01:33 2016 No.2734170 File: 166 KB, 1920x1080, Version1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is just a quick head movement test. I plan to add to and improve later. Advice on improvements appreciated...

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 19:55:08 2016 No.2734239 >>2733790 neato

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 20:11:24 2016 No.2734255 >>2732040 M8, physics. You have a horizontal momentum and a vertical one, gravity only affects the vertical momentum. By conservation of energy the ball would keep most of it's horizontal speed by the end, not just come to a full stop.

Anonymous Fri Nov 4 20:27:31 2016 No.2734277

How do people animate on 3s and make it actually look good? I usually animate on 2s and it's fine but when I try to do on 3s it always looks stiff and slow.

I recently watched the Shelter short film (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzQ6gRAEoy0)) and it's animated on 3s and it looks so good, I've been going back and looking at it frame by frame and I just can't emulate the same results...how would I go about it?

Also, are there any good films/shows people can recommend that were animated on 3s?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 20:31:50 2016 No.2734282 >>2734277 You're probably just used to it. Get out of your comfort zone, only use 3s if that's what you want.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 20:54:46 2016 No.2734318 >>2734277 High detail masks it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 21:14:12 2016 No.2734343 >>2734317 Satellite and water movement?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 21:19:33 2016 No.2734350 >>2734317 the long cloud that travels from top left to bottom right has an inconsistent speed, it stops then speeds up which looks bad. cute idea though I like it

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 21:40:17 2016 No.2734365 >>2734343 yeah, i was thinkin about it... not sure if ill take it that far. >>2734350 youre right actually.... i should fix that. thx anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 22:41:09 2016 No.2734403 >>2734170 Nothing to critique if there is basically no animation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 00:09:38 2016 No.2734458 >>2734277 ;_;

Anonymous Sat Nov 5 00:19:44 2016 No.2734469
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I'm looking for more blogs of Japanese animators where they post random sketches. This one is all I have but I know there must be others http://sotymr01.tumblr.com
?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 00:24:12 2016 No.2734474 File: 915 KB, 1920x1354, Nikki animation storyboard.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alright this is my next project. a ~30 second animation

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 00:50:18 2016 No.2734499 >>2734474 Question though, is there a good guide for approaching short animations like this?

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 01:10:37 2016 No.2734522 File: 99 KB, 605x779, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734469 >>2734474 Error: You must wait 3 minutes 56 seconds before posting a duplicate reply.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 01:12:56 2016 No.2734524 File: 81 KB, 608x780, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734469 >>2734474 Hopefully these help.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 01:16:23 2016 No.2734528 >>2734520 >>2734521 >>2734522 >>2734523 >>2734524 thanks anon. fukken saved. I'll incorporate more DEPTH into the thing

Anonymous Sat Nov 5 01:19:16 2016 No.2734530
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>>2734469
Shit, replied to the wrong post. My bad.

>I'm looking for more blogs of Japanese animators where they post random sketches.
Check out this blog for some sketches teiryokulolitateiryokulolita.tumblr.com. Sorry for all the (You)s.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 01:44:38 2016 No.2734541 >>2734530 That link isn't working for me, did you copy it wrong?

Anonymous Sat Nov 5 01:57:33 2016 No.2734548
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>>2734541
Yeah, sorry. teiryokulolita.tumblr.com
There's only a few sketches once you open it up, this guy is more on the manga side too. You're going to have to dig a little further for more. I'll try to look for Japanese animators that primarily post sketches, one sec.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 02:10:03 2016 No.2734562 >>2734548 thanks

Anonymous Sat Nov 5 02:23:40 2016 No.2734566
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>>2734562
Alright, found the perfect blog for you: artbooksnat.tumblr.com

To get directly to the Japanese animator's sketches and scans, just type "Sketches" in the search bar. He also includes the name of the original animator(s) and the show/movie so you can check them out yourself. Good luck, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 02:33:59 2016 No.2734571 File: 448 KB, 434x315, image.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734469 >>2734562 >>2734566 Oh, searching "production sketches" in his blog will yield better designs instead. Forgot to mention that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 02:34:04 2016 No.2734572 >>2734524 Saved, all these are gold. If you got anymore please share.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 02:37:25 2016 No.2734573 >tvpaint Does anyone actually use this? I open it up and looks like Paint Tool SAI, which I couldn't stand.

Anonymous Sat Nov 5 02:41:17 2016 No.2734576
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>>2734566
>>2734571
nice theres some good things on here when I search for it. I'm really interested in the rough sketchy doodle stuff that shows their thought process

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 02:42:21 2016 No.2734577 >>2734573 I use it every day, best software for hand drawn animation by far imo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 02:45:57 2016 No.2734580 File: 1.09 MB, 540x268, image.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734572 I don't have anymore tutorials/tips for storyboards, but I can provide professional storyboards for future references if that's fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 02:47:07 2016 No.2734582 File: 1.03 MB, 540x268, image.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734580 Zootopia Outtakes \| Nick Goes Savage

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 02:57:12 2016 No.2734588 File: 271 KB, 1280x811, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734562 Scratch that, I did have more. Here's some by John Nevarez.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 02:58:54 2016 No.2734590 File: 271 KB, 1280x811, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734572 Scratch that, I did have more. Here's some by John Nevarez.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 02:59:37 2016 No.2734591 File: 190 KB, 1280x811, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734572

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 03:06:03 2016 No.2734595 File: 439 KB, 1280x972, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734572 Hans Bacher.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 03:09:15 2016 No.2734600 >>2734598 >>2734597 >>2734595 >>2734592 >>2734591 Good shit man

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 03:11:55 2016 No.2734602 File: 257 KB, 1280x777, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734572 Tom Warburton.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 03:14:46 2016 No.2734607 File: 170 KB, 1280x777, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734572 You must blah blah.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 03:15:36 2016 No.2734608 File: 152 KB, 1280x777, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734572 (You) must

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 03:16:11 2016 No.2734611 File: 166 KB, 1280x777, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734572 (You)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 03:17:00 2016 No.2734612 File: 127 KB, 1280x777, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2734572 Guess that's it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 14:05:40 2016 No.2735014 >>2734469 https://twitter.com/ saito_aoba

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 22:12:13 2016 No.2735586 >>2734469 https://sakugabooru.com/forum/show/34

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 22:16:55 2016 No.2735595 >>2735586 This is gold. Thanks, based anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 6 19:33:30 2016 No.2736623 >>2734277 It looks good but slow. I think the best thing would be to mix it up. Have ones for high action and 3s and even 4s for slow takes.

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