/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2730401

>tfw not gonna make it

>>2730418
>harry partridge
>bruce timm
We've got similar taste anon. You aiming for animation too?

>>2730421
You'd better believe, fampaisano.

>>2730401
>tfw I have so many artists I look up to I can't narrow it down to 30 squares

>>2730427
We're gonna make it anon!
>>2730428
Just do what I did and pick a couple you like. Obviously you won't be able to include every artist that inspires you.

>>2730432
Okay I tried. I feel kind of embarrassed posting this to honest. I feel it's not really the best representation of my tastes and comes across really generic--I swear my tastes expand past this! But I just wanted to include people that have already had a large impact on my way of thinking or painting, so all the more obscure tastes of mine or things I explore each day are each individually not important enough to make it on here, even though added together they would be, if that makes sense.

>>2730473
no worries anon. Nothing to be embarrassed about, those are all real neat. Thanks for sharing mang.

>>2730479
Thanks. In retrospect Jaime's square should be larger because he was a huge influence on me in the past, but I have tried to distance myself from him as I was worried he was too strong an influence.

>>2730473
ANON WHO PAINTED THE GUY GETTING PUNCHED ON THE TOP RIGHT IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THAT FOREVER

>>2730484
not him but it looks like something Steve Huston would paint. Not sure tho.

>>2730484
Phil Hale :)

I should consider being influenced by, like, artists. Probably why I'm a shit artist.

>>2730486
>Phil Hale
fug. It reminded me of Huston's stuff

>>2730491
I suspect Steve was influenced by Phil to some degree.

why can't you guys just label your stuff?

>>2730495
Because it takes long enough to google search them.

>>2730495
I guess because people are compiling their greatest influences they assume people know who they are since it's someone they talk about and think about a lot, so there is a bit of a bias in terms of how familiar people "should" be of them.

It's also largely an exercise for oneself, and we just are sharing for fun.

Just ask for specific ones you want to know and the anons will probably answer.

>>2730497
>not having all the images already saved to your computer

>>2730409
Can you name these artists pl0x?

it's hard to choose

>>2730500
Here you go anon.

>>2730504
Neat, your tastes seen very developed in specific direction. I'm curious to see your art if you are willing to post something.

>>2730506
honestly i've never posted my work here, and i dont have much to show. this is a sketch i did not too long ago

>>2730401
These are fun

>>2730504
shit, i love Elda-QD too

Top to bottom, left to right:

>Frank Miller
>David Mazzucchelli
>Steve Ditko
>David Lloyd
>Michael Cho
>Francesco Francavilla
>Alex Ross
>Paolo Rivera
>Chris Samnee
>Tim Bradstreet
>Michael Lark
>Frank Frazetta
>Dave Gibbons
>Doug Mahnke
>Greg Capullo
>Frank Quitely

did this one a while ago
will never reach that tier but at least i get to worship these people so i guess life isnt entirely meaningless

>>2730657
NAMES

>>2730658
ok man here we go buddy
(left to right top to bottom, typical order)
>sidwill-cg (used dA name)
>cedric peyraverney
>bayard wu
>mullins
>sergei kolesov
>singer sargent
>sinix
>masahiro ito
>sachin teng
>james jean
>charlie bowater
>armor, 80ies aesthetic, fall aesthetic (random stuff, the fall one is from over the garden wall)
>kikuos music and art

there u go

There's way more comic influences than I expected on /ic/. Also I say this every time one of these threads is posted, but I think it should be encouraged (or mandatory?) to post your own art as well since that is where it gets really interesting seeing what all these influences blended together results in.

>>2730473
Nice, Andrew

>>2730667
Thanks, anon

I need about 6 of these for my massive list of influences.

The sizes of individual images are not representative of their amount of influence they've had on me, it's random. Probably put in some and left out some that I shouldn't.

>>2730783
Pretty good taste anon. There's a couple things you included that I wouldn't expect to see on people's influence maps, but I am glad to see included.

>>2730401
Sources/names are compulsory in Influence threads, and you preferably post your own work too.

>>2730798
>and you preferably post your own work too.
Except this never happens. If you had to paper your own work then only like 3 people would post in the thread

>>2730819
>preferably

>>2730783
Who is the artist for the creature head sheet, the weimaraner near the bottom and the last image?

>>2730783
>>2730826
Stephen Oakley, Benjamin Björklund and Gray Shuko

>>2730786
Thanks!

>>2730798
>>2730663
I'm >>2730473 and wasn't sure what to post. I'm just attaching a quick like 30 minute photo study thing turned fanart from yesterday.

>>2730842
>>2730473
Fug forgot sources. Starting top left and reading left to right, going down a row at a time:
Craig Mullins
Jaime Jones
Ruan Jia
Peleng
Min Yum
Phil Hale
Bernie Fuchs
Howard Pyle
Dean Cornwell
Andrew Wyeth
Jeffrey Jones
Harvey Dunn
Winslow Homer
Wilhelm M Busch
Ilya Repin
JW Waterhouse
Lucian Freud
JS Sargent
Frederic Remington
Filipp Malyavin
Isaac Levitan
Joaquin Sorolla

My favorite artist overall is Puppeteer Lee.

>>2730882
Example of my work, first year learning how to paint so I'm still kek tier.

>>2730883
Don't be afraid to experiment with values. Your shadows are far too shallow and the mask is a bit too much pillow-shaded.

>>2730892
I'll make some changes then, thanks a lot, I'm having a really hard time.

>>2730898
Honestly you're better off painting from life, old masters, and photos than trying to invent or base your lighting off how a lot of the guys on your influence map paint. You need to understand how form interacts with light in the real world before you can play with values in the way the guys you look up to use them.

>>2730504
added names

>>2730489
nothing wrong with being influenced by nature and urban environments. all great art comes from nature in one way or another.

That being said it would help if you found artists who create art that is similar to what you hope to capture about nature.

Helm, Salvador Dali
Agostino Arrivabene, Dorothea Tanning
Michael Ayrton, Liu Xiaodong

>>2730842
>>2730846
>>2730473

I like your work and you have good taste!
Blog?

I had two maps so I stuck 'em together.

>>2730782
>zankuro

>>2730900
Th-thank you, I was going to do those sorts of studies starting today. Improvising is way out of my league. I was making that entire painting thinking to myself "this is way too difficult for me."

>>2730963
Well feel free to push yourself like that, but make sure to always come back to practicing and applying the basics, using reference etc. Just be careful to not get caught up in superficial stylistic choices of those artists and have that affect your own art in a negative way since you don't have the same foundations as them.

>>2730970
Do you happen to have any resources or references you'd recommend for a beginner like me? Id appreciate it a lot, I feel like I don't even know where to start.

>>2730977
Just do regular studies of things, both in pencil and digital. Use books to learn anatomy and construction, and study images on your own to learn other things like painting. Read lots of art blogs and get your hands on any pdfs of books or videos from things like Gnomon or Schoolism or those old Massive Black tutorial videos.

>>2730985
Thank you. Sorry for asking for you to spoonfeed me.

>>2730418
>Macross, valkyries
I believe in you because I believe in me anon

>>2730644
Good stuff here anon

>>2730986
Nah it's fine. When I started out I was a part of conceptart.org when it was actually a decent set of forums, so I got a decent idea of how to learn from there. I would link you some pages there that show things, but they fucked up the site now and lost a lot of the old images so it's kind of useless.

Maybe download Algenpfleger's archive of practice stuff he put on his DA. It shows the volume of work needed, and the type of practice, to get to a pro level: http://algenpfleger.deviantart.com/gallery/27635231/Tons-of-practice

Keep in mind all those images in all those 8 downloads are just 2 years worth of his practice.

>>2731001
Thanks a lot, anon, a loooooooot. I'm self taught so this will help me so much, thanks again.

>>2730401
(L to R)
Kay Nielsen
John Howe
R. Crumb
Mike Mignola
Jaime Herndandez
Shohei Otomo
Suehiro Maruo
Gustave Dore
Kate Beaton
Moebius
Katsuhiro Otomo
Winsor Mccay
Kara Walker
Daniel Clowes

>>2731012
Glad it can help. There's over 1700 images in those 8 zip folders, so it's a pretty insane pace he did in that time. Don't feel bad if you are not nearly as productive as he was because his work ethic back then was basically superhuman, which is how he improved so fast. Most people would do that in like 5 years instead of 2.

>>2731030
There's nothing I want more than to improve, I'll only feel bad if I don't go for it. Thanks again.

>>2730782

sources?

>>2731076
Shit forgot the names:
Top row: Jim Lee, Da Vinci, Marcio Takara, Ma Wing Shing, Shinkiro, Yusuke Murata

Bottom Row: Umberto Boccioni, Yusuke Murata, Moebius, Hirohiko Araki.

>>2731056
Oh sorry for not adding: (left to right)
Kay Nielsen
Range Murata
Vidoegames!
Zankuro
Ryoma Ito
HACCAN
Fuzisawa/Fz
Pipos ball jointed dolls
Nemuke/ Mota Home
Directly under: Kazuma Kaneko
Akihiko Yoshida
Yoh yoshinari
Fujimoto hideaki/shuhan
Rikose/ Aoneko
Koki

Tyson Hesse, Nargyle, Rebecca Sugar, Jake Parker, Samuelyounart, Gashi Gashi, Ovopack, Jaramo, Nicoleships, Incaseart, Doxy, Cubesona, Kindahernyart.

>>2730935
I sort of like it horizontal it can be used as a wallpaper too

also nice picks

>>2731108
I like Kinda Herny too! One of my fave pinup artists

>>2730540
Toriyama is cool. Not a fan of his recent skinny stuff. I prefer his Z/Dragonball stuff.

Also at the risk of me sounding like a newfag, how would I place pictures into their tiles? Photoshop?

>>2731029
>Mignola
>Dore
>Moebius

>>2731152
Post your art. I'm liking the strong golden age illustrator influence.

>>2730473
who drew the couple kissing???

>>2730911
I suppose, I am kinda wandering around in the dark here.

Thanks, anon.

>>2730920
Thanks. I haven't updated my blog in a year so I won't link it I guess. I probably should update it again though as almost every time I post images here these days people ask for my blog.

>>2731162
Wilhelm M Busch

>>2731144
game recognize game

>>2730473

Andrew Sonea aka merc_wip guy?

>>2731141
not that anon but

>Photoshop?
yes or any art program that allows you to have layers would be easiest

I made the tiles transparent so you or anyone else can save it, place what you like underneath in another layer, and erase the lines that block parts of the image if you don't like them.

>>2731233
>I made the tiles transparent
I was surprised the OP wasn't transparent already considering it was a png. When I made mine I used the magic wand to delete all the white squares, then I put my images under and used the wand again to select the square(s) and use it as a mask so I could place the images under it and not have to erase any parts of the images and could just place them how I wanted.

>>2731245
>I used the magic wand to delete all the white squares
exactly what I just did, I didn't think about masking but that's way more efficient.

>>2731213
Ah damn, I shouldn't have put my name there. I even didn't give out my blog when the other anon asked me to haha. Did you guess based just on my initials? Or did you factor in the tastes and things? Well, you got it right. Have a cookie and an old sketch.

>>2731255
Turns out I've been following your blog all along. Any reason for the sparse updates the last year?
Either way, I like your stuff, and hope to see more soon!

>>2731255
Just dropping by to say I love your art.

>>2731258
>I like your stuff
Thanks

>Any reason for the sparse updates the last year?
Hm, a mix of things. Lack of self confidence, lack of productivity for parts of it when I was extra depressed, things being under NDA so can't show work stuff, the decision to try to not post studies online under my name, I fell out of the habit of posting things online etc.

Also at this point it's been so long since I posted on my tumblr that I feel anything I will post needs to be groundbreaking or something. I get anxiety posting publicly online too on places like artstation or fb. I've got some pieces in the upcoming Spectrum though so might do a little update with that as an excuse to self promote or something, I dunno. We'll see when I get my copy of the book how I feel. I hate self promo stuff like that.

>>2731259
Thanks anon.

>>2730782
list'em sempai

>>2731262
>Lack of self confidence
>lack of productivity
>extra depressed
>anxiety
Heh. I'm glad even high end artists like you feel the way I've been feeling these past days. I hope you feel better soon. The faster you decide to stop moping around and feeling sorry for yourself, the better.

>>2730504
whos in the top right?

>>2731262
I suffer from depression too. I'm fine with posting my work online. It's the deadlines that makes me anxious. I'm also angry at my low output rate.
For what it's worth, I'd be happy to see your work on my dashboard.

>>2731245

This is way smarter than what I did, which was manually trim each image to fit the square.

>>2731268
>high end artists like you
This sounds super weird to hear. I wouldn't consider myself high end at all. Thanks I guess.

>feeling these past days
It's been years anon. I still haven't tried pills yet but that might be just about my only hope. Therapy didn't do much for me.

>>2731279
>It's the deadlines that makes me anxious
Yeah that can be very stressful. I usually procrastinate then have to cram to get it done in time. A couple years ago I had a really bad bout of depression though and I didn't even care about deadlines anymore and ended up flunking several jobs which wasn't good. I've been more responsible since then luckily.

Today my stress was through the roof because my rent was due and I had clients late on paying me so I didn't think I'd make it, but luckily I got paid by one tonight and was okay.

>I'm also angry at my low output rate
For me it fluctuates, so in times where I notice I am more productive I try to take advantage of it. As for times when my output is low, well it's become so regular over the last few years that I am pretty used to it and I no longer get angry or guilty like I used to. I just sort of accept it. Not sure if that is a promising thing for you as a place to reach or if it is scary, but yeah it's what I noticed.

>I'd be happy to see your work on my dashboard
Cheers

>>2731288
I hope your attitude changes someday. I hope you let yourself be happy someday. You're in your hell because you want to be.

>>2731288
>>2731295
Forgot to add:
t.crippled guy that has never been paid to paint

>>2731288
> A couple years ago I had a really bad bout of depression though and I didn't even care about deadlines anymore and ended up flunking several jobs which wasn't good

I know this feel.

My first and only paying art job was derailed by me going on a month long depressive bender. It was all going great, then the depression hit and I just couldn't recover.

Haven't been paid for art since.

>>2731295
>You're in your hell because you want to be.
Not sure I can agree with this statement. Seems a bit like something that might sound deep but actually has no real meaning or truth to it.

>>2731300
>My first and only paying art job was derailed by me going on a month long depressive bender. It was all going great, then the depression hit and I just couldn't recover.
>Haven't been paid for art since
Damn that sucks anon. Ever since I burned through my savings paying for rent and stuff I have been better at completing things because there's way more pressure to do work and get paid when I know if I don't I won't be able to have a roof over my head or food in my mouth.

If you're going to be doing this as a career you should probably come up with some way to power through those bad benders.

>>2731108
>Incaseart, Doxy
Hmm...

>>2731314
It means that you're not trying hard enough to get better. Whenever you're having a negative thought, you just let it be there instead of reminding yourself that it's just your depression talking. From how you word your posts, it almost seems like you're actively trying to put yourself down in each sentence. "I'm not good enough, I'm irresponsible, I'm not productive, I am a piece of shit" etc. and not only does it seem like attention whoring and makes people uncomfortable, it also confirms your negative thoughts each time you do.

Being "positive" doesn't mean you should lie to yourself that everything is always dandy, but that things aren't as bad as you make them out to be, you need to think about it rationally.

I've had depression for years and it's only been getting better because I finally decided to get better. My life and environment didn't change much, if anything they got worse, but you have to change yourself. Tell yourself EACH time you talk or think badly about yourself that "this is my depression talking, it might not actually be true"

Good luck, friend.

>>2731328
What can I say, I like to draw and animate porn.

>>2731484
Does the porn you draw also feature traps, femboys and dickgirls?

All I can think of is why is it so fucking hard to type out the names of the artists in question?

>>2731263
>>2731104

>>2731314
Besides what this anon said >>2731447
if you decide you're going to do better and succeed and you decide to stop sabotaging yourself, things will be a hell of a lot easier for you. Remember that art's mental and coming into it with a shitty mindset will yield shitty results. I don't know why a bright young man like you would feel the way you do, maybe it's something personal you can't let go, but dammit, nigger, you need to get the fuck on with your life.

>>2730663
My work is bad, I'm ashamed of it, and it shames my influences.

>>2730663

OK.

Am >>2730644

I could fill 50 more squares

>>2731899
Nice. I would like to see your work now.

>>2730418
I like it

>>2730473

>plebiest taste
>all cardboard-cut from official "/ic/ approved artists list"(tm)

Haven't you forgotten there Kim Jung Gi? Welp, at least you haven't posted incase or shadman.

>>2732108
If you have to be a dick for no reason, at least share your own refined taste along with your post.

>>2731899
Oh hello. Weird to see my art in your list, feels out of place amongst all those other amazing dudes.

>>2732108
I knew someone would call me out on that. Just a few thoughts:
-taste is taste, so if I like something I won't stop liking it because it's popular
-I liked many of these guys way before I came to /ic/
-some of them probably are on /ic/'s approved list because of me and how many times I mentioned them over the years here
-I do like KJG a lot, in fact I bought his books over 5 years ago before it was even easy to get them in the West and before there were any English sites you could get them form. He hasn't been a huge influence on me though he's not included.
-there's probably a half dozen of the ones on my list that I never see mentioned here, except maybe by me on rare occasions

That said you are right that it comes across pretty generic. I think my art too is rather generic as a result of it, but what are you going to do, eh?

>>2732194
Hey. Can you post the fullsize of that Jeffrey Jones you used in the influence map?

>>2732194
Are you /ic/?
And do you want to stay or can't you leave?

>>2732235
Yes.

>>2732237
>Are you /ic/?
No, /ic/ is a loose community of strangers. There are (like on any site) a small number of power users though. I think when /ic/ seems to be like a hivemind it's actually because there really are only a few people who contribute more than you would think: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture)

>And do you want to stay or can't you leave?
Bit of both I guess. Sometimes I leave for a couple months, sometimes I am on here the entire day every day. I always come back eventually even if I leave it seems.

>>2730504
Allison Sommers absolutely fucking nails it everytime. Can't even begin to understand her creative processes.

>>2732251
>pic
Glorious! Thanks!

>>2732257
Yeah it's pretty close to a perfect painting in my mind. Glad I can help by posting it.

Here's another bonus pic for you. I don't think it's as strong an image but I still like it a lot. It's actually on the cover of my book on him(her).

>>2732260
Mmm... His designs alone are impeccable, but the thing that gets me hooked, is the texture in some of them.
I used to not care much about texture, but I've developed an insatiable appetite for it the last year or so.

>>2732293
I love him for his design sense mostly, but also for the wonderful mystery and elegance woven into every image. It just sucks me right in.

In terms of textures I don't think Jeff did much in terms of physical texture, though I've never seen any of them in real life. I suppose you are talking of the painted textures? I like the hatching he does with the brush, and when he gets that drybrush look that pick up the canvas texture. Pic related is a pretty good example of this.

I wish.

>>2732332
Pretty top notch taste anon. What's your work look like?

>>2732335
>your work
M-my what please? The neighbor's dog ate it.
Honestly though, I am stuck in eternal photocopy & doodle mode. I never did anything you could even begin to call a piece and I spend more time looking at art than making it.
>my, what a surprise!
But to satisfy your curiosity and give myself a reality check, here's a recent sketch. This is how far I usually take my stuff.

>>2732370
>This is how far I usually take my stuff
Push yourself more anon. You only grow when you step out of your comfort zone.

>>2732370
I like how you have Klimt in your influence map, I discovered him today and holy... one of my new favorites. You serious about art? Or do you just sketch from time to time, art can't really be approached with a hobbyist mindset, if you want to produce something of substance.

>>2732390
>art can't really be approached with a hobbyist mindset, if you want to produce something of substance
You can say this of any field or skill though, it's not exclusive to painting.

>>2732384
sounds uncomfortable

>>2732390
Did you check out his landscape stuff too? It's amazing.
>You serious about art?
I don't even know anymore.

Here's an attempt at a landscape.

>>2732391
For sure, of course no trade is easy.

>>2732400
>Did you check out his landscape stuff too?
Not until you mentioned them, th-thank you. I like your atmosphere, a lot, great colors, man. If you ever decide to get serious I recommend you drill basic forms and you get these http://deadoftheday.blogspot.com/p/downloads.html?m=1 they're by Erik Gist, I also recommend watching some Watts videos. If you love art, making art will be so worth it, dude, it's such a great pursuit. Good luck whether you decide to or not.

>>2732400
>sounds uncomfortable
Such is life. You won't become Schwarzeneggar by sitting on the couch and going on the occasional stroll when you feel up to it. You have to put in the work each day, and make sure you add more weight as you get stronger so it is never easy.

You've got good taste and those sketches show you have potential. It's just a matter of whether you are willing to see where that potential can lead or not.

>>2732412
Thank you kind anon.
>I like your atmosphere
I guess it's already obvious from my map, this is what's most important to me.

>>2732426
I get where you are coming from, but
>Schwarzeneggar
Anyways, thank you a lot too. This is actually very encouraging.

>>2732455
>Schwarzeneggar
He's the most successful bodybuilder of all time and succeeded in a variety of other fields too. I like to make comparisons between different fields when talking about art, whether it be music or sports or something else. It makes the point about practice and skill development more obvious I think, and there are a billion parallels between different fields when looking at the people who are at the top and how they got there. Mastery is a universal thing.

I could just as easily I guess mention some artist too but the point might be lost a bit if you start thinking about their specific art and whether you like their style or not, or if you believe they had some talent you don't. Talking about something simpler and a bit removed from art like lifting weights makes the point clearer I think.

So go lift those art weights anon.

>>2732475
Oh absolutely and I am all for analogies, I use them all the time to try to elucidate various concepts to myself, but I was really just trying to refer to the little typo you made haha.
>not Schwarzenegger

>>2732488
Oh fuck, I always misspell his name. Didn't even notice this time.

>>2732103
sure

>>2732194
Hehe you've earned your place there, and pretending I don't think about your stuff while drawing would be dishonest

>>2732577
who is top row, second from the left

>>2730473
i know what you are talking about

I also have artist who
>I like their style and try to emulate it and that's it
>I don't necessarily like their style, but I like their technique of work
>they inspire me not throw their works, but their words and way of thinking

so who do I put in my influence map?

>>2732608
ur dad

>>2730473
>>2732608
>you can literally put anything in there squares, photo of locations or people, other artists' works, ARTIST THEMSELVES, video games, TV show, music, movies, and books.

oh, now after reading it I realize I should do it like this
>>I like their style and try to emulate it and that's it
pic of their work
>>I don't necessarily like their style, but I like their technique of work
pic of them them working
>>they inspire me not throw their works, but their words and way of thinking
pic of them talking

Also after reading that part I realize I shoudn't put just works of others artist, but also pics of stuff from around me which inspire me, including my inspiration folder XD

>>2731532
Who's the bottom right corner?

>>2732601
Alfred Casson

>>2732488
>not writing it scvaitznegar every time

>>2731152
my well tanned neighbor

>>2732650
thanks, his stuff is new to me
he really gives landscapes personality

>>2732765
You may also like Maynard Dixon, Rey Morimura and Joaquim Mir Trinxet.

>>2732765
>>2732805
As a Canadian I feel obliged to mention that Alfred Casson was a part of a group of Canadian landscape painters called The Group of Seven. They're basically some of the only painters to have come out of this country so are highly regarded here. Look them up--some are really shitty, some are great. Most of them are pretty stylized. I'm not sure how much is online for all of them, but I've seen their works in person, and especially their plein air oil sketches are incredible.

>>2732817
Thanks. It'll always be a mystery to me that so many art collection websites use such low resolution images.

https://hammer.ucla.edu/exhibitions/2015/the-idea-of-north-the-paintings-of-lawren-harris/

That has some really good quality shots, shame it isn't for all seven.


Some of these are passable albeit still mostly garbage quality.

http://www.arthistoryarchive.com/arthistory/canadian/The-Group-of-Seven.html

>>2732828
Yes it irks me how bad some images online are. If you are going to post a grainy jpg that is only 300 pixels wide and is colour cast completely wrong, why even bother?

Things are getting a lot better though, I don't know if you remember or not but if you go back in time not even that long ago there was a point where like literally the only site that had hi res images was Art Renewal. That's why they were able to change to that paid shit they do now to see the images, because they pretty much had a monopoly on it. Fortunately with Google Art and various museums uploading hi-res images of their collections we have a lot at our disposal, maybe it even is making us greedy and expecting it for every image.

So I've seen lots of the Group of Seven in real life as I mentioned. They have a decent amount in the National Gallery and a lot in the Art Gallery of Ontario. I don't remember seeing any in Montreal's Museum of Fine Art, but I haven't been there in a while, and I spent most of the time in the European collections last time I was there.

One thing you don't get in the images online is the scale or the texture of the works. Some of their studio pieces (depends on the artist though) were wall sized massive canvasses with the paint so thick it is creating crests like a half inch thick or more that stick off it. I have no idea how many tubes they used or how long they took to dry.

Their best work in my opinion are still the small oil sketches done plein air. Several of them would go together on camping trips into places like Algonquin Park or various parts of Quebec and stuff and then just bring a shitload of small wooden panels with them. They'd paint big landscapes as well as closeups of things like maybe the way the snow interacted with a root at the bottom of a tree trunk. Those little sketches are really extraordinary and have a great freshness to them that their studio work doesn't have.

step aside, weeb cummin thru

Lucian freud is love

>>2730935
we have really similar tastes, i'd love to see your art/blog!

>>2732932

hans makart
rembrandt
fragonard
dave rapoza
tiepolo
caravaggio
dark souls
nausicaa
velasquez
theo prins
jeff jones
beksinski
dean cornwell
ilya repin
catbib
mononoke hime
jean giraud
arthur rackham
boogeewoo
frank brangwyn
kekai kotaki
syd mead
guild wars loading screen unkown

>>2732862
uh sure. sethmcghee.tumblr.com

just bully me

>>2733857
I would if I had the energy.

>>2733862
>not even having enough energy anymore to shitpost
get help anon.

>>2732844
I want to see your art, you seem to have a pretty clear and nice taste, and it's very focused on solid drawing skills which is appreciated. Are you doing animation too or do you just do drawings/illustration?

Sorry it isn't all artists

loving every laugh

>>2733976

that's pretty cool actually

I think I have tons of authors other than Melville, and tons of composers other than Stravinsky on my mind when I draw. But them, Shakespeare, Dante, and maybe Shostakovich and Wagner are near the top as well. I don't follow living painters like people here seem to, perhaps I should start.

>>2734356

Also for those interested, the bluish one of the knight on the horse is John Bauer, and the one next to it on the upper right is Edmund Dulac. Absolutely top notch older (early 20th century) fantasy painters.

>>2730983
ncsoft is bae

>>2733964
Animation only right now, can't draw at all and my shit doesn't even look similar, just looks like generic beginner shit ( >>2731538 ).

I admire the draftsmanship of animators more than anything though, being able to construct anything from any angle in any pose in whatever focal length while having it be consistently stylised, proportioned, gestural and appealing totally on the fly is the fucking gold standard for me, but I get demotivated at just how many years of practice I'm going to have to slog through to have that so I haven't done proper studies in forever.

>>2732617
Christan Schole

>>2734424
That's still a cool animation. You look like you have a good understanding of form and you rotated the camera pretty well. Just keep going, I'm sure you can reach your goals if you continue at it.

>>2734424
Have you been watching Flip Flappers?

>>2735213
thx, just gotta keep up the grind
>>2735241
No, looks like moeshit, but if you're asking I'll take that to mean it's got some good animation, so I'll give it a shot.

>>2735923
Just hit up the sakugabooru and you're good to go. What was your twitter/tumblr again, i'm sure ive got it bookmarked but that doesn't mean much when my bookmarks are in the thousands.

I agree with a lot of your sentiments toward animators being kings, thats what I too aspire to interms of proficiency. With the animations you do like the room one, do you mostly estimate the perspective rather than doing any sketching. I really need to find an animation program im comfortable in, Photoshop is clunky as fuck.

>>2732617
I love you so much, anon. I never knew Old xian's name. I saw her art by chance once, fell in love with it, and then never discovered her name. And I never knew she drew manhua, so I couldn't find her through that.

>>2735963
I am an artist, but animation is so baffling to me
I know a lot of it now is computers and boxes and cgi now but yeah

How do you people make these? I kind of put together an influence map before but not really. I never feel like I have a real sense of my influences. Do you guys look at a lot of art all the time? I feel like I look at art here and there and mostly draw on my own. I never seem to see something I feel like I want to aim for specifically, just aspects from all kinds of pieces that I feel like I should improve upon.
How do you narrow it down??

>>2738251
>Do you guys look at a lot of art all the time?
I think a lot of us do. So we catch ourselves coming back to particular pieces or artists over time.
>I never seem to see something I feel like I want to aim for specifically, just aspects from all kinds of pieces
That's fine, so just put up tiles that represent those pieces. Remember, you can put anything in there, not just artists. You could put up an image that represents an aspect of what you like and write down the idea, instead of an artists name.
Look at your art and try to reverse engineer why it looks the way it looks. And think about what you spend a lot of time on other than watching or making art, chances are that it finds its way into your work somehow (music you listen to, other hobbies, people you look up to, books you read etc.).
Also you can chose for yourself how much you want it to be what already influenced you vs what you'd like to be influencing you.
>How do you narrow it down??
You don't have to make this in one day, maybe set up some images, come back to them and see how you feel about seeing them on the map, does it seem right?
Others have already written, they could make multiple of these and don't neccessarily think the one they made is perfectly accurate, so don't worry about that, you can treat is as just a sample, your influences and aspirations change over time anyways.

>>2738251
You're still a beginner, you will know and like more artists the more you get into it.

can a person's body language be an artistic inspiration? whatever

>>2735185
Thanks!

>>2738221
Oh nice, glad I could help. She's mostly known for her manhua, so I can see it being hard to find her work without knowing that.

>>2730401

>>2738557
Wow you made a ton of great points. Most importantly the part about not just doing it overnight, I never thought about it that way. I'll start out by looking at the one I made before and see if it still seems to hold up. I know for sure it needs to be updated to include colored things. Thanks for the help anon. I know this might seem not too major but lately I've been really trying to figure out my - forgive the meme use but - "aesthetic". I think latching onto it will help me push my art and find my style but I've been completely lost on pinning it down, so I appreciate having some direction.
>>2738753
I'm not really a beginner though and I'm not young either, which is why this bothers me. I thought I'd have a stronger sense of self by now as far as what art I like and what I'd like to see in my own. But now I think I just haven't been looking at enough, I see all kinds of artists in this thread I've never heard of. Hopefully I'll start seeing a pattern if I look at more.

>>2739340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzM73o5m96g

Part 2 is also on that channel if you are unfamiliar. Even seems like a cool dude.

>>2739352
Much appreciated, man. Even's definitely an awesome fellow and hearing his insights is always a treat. Definitely someone to look into if anyone wants some inspiration for world building.

i hope it helps

I could fill in around 10 of these. Mythology plays a huge part in terms of influence, too.

>>2740476
where's the one to the left of monsters inc from?

>>2740479
John Landis' American Werewolf in London

>>2740480
Ooh, sweet, thanks

>>2740476
>likes werewolves and doggos
London?

This turned into more of a 'Things I like' grid.
I feel like I'm influenced more by movies and life in general, than other artists.

>>2735963
Holy sauce pls (sorry if it's somehow obvious but I can't find it)

>>2742782

>>2740902
I like it.

I like over-rendered weeb shit right now

Look up to them for a variety of different things from stylization, use of color, anatomy, creature and environment design and so on.

>>2730401
>I hope they won't spot the identity crisis tucked in

>>2743021

Look for hakasechung on twitter.

>>2744463
The lad has some bretty neat gear
How do people get this good?

>>2744447
Whats all that shit around Dragon ball?

>all those comics/games/animus and memeartists
Are you all underage and/or American? I'm not even memeing, sincerely curious if the manchild taste is globalized or just the product of a comics consuming nation.

>>2744703
Tone it down with the buzzwords. I can assure you, if anyone were to see your work, not a single person would ever think you were influenced by Waterhouse. That's what this thread is about, posting your _influences_. Not posting the usual /ic/ approved fine art masters everyone knows about who have nothing whatsoever in common with your own work.

>>2744711
>posting your _influences_
i'm just amazed by people _striving_ for better art influenced by videogame nobodies and animushit

I guess I just really like artists who bring out emotion and life in their works.

>>2744726
Welp, and here's the influence map to go with that comment.

>>2744720
Well, most people who want to work in the entertainment industry are probably influenced by entertainment products. Not sure just how much of a moron you'd have to be for that to amaze you.

>>2744720
>he thinks he's going to make million dollar masterpieces
If your not doing it for money then you relate it to what you enjoy whilst learning. If people are interested in digital "animu and videogame" art, then let them do so
Not everyone likes what you like, fucking bigot

>>2730783
>Gray Shuko
who did the cowboy?

>>2732577
middle two on the bottom?

>>2740476
middle two bottom row?

>>2745268
>>2745271
i wrote these two. and yea they are two different requests

>>2745271
One of them is Ovopack I think

>>2745287
yea youre right the wolf is ovopack

What is this "SPIRIT COOKING" anyway?

>>2731532
>Bacon
Nice